For sure! There aren't many flex spots so that generally comes easy and the engine is mostly solved at this point. It's mostly in the side deck where you get to get creative. Thank you for the kind words and watching!
Played book of eclipse for a while, but at 2 as didn’t want to draw multiples most of the time, clearly think alike! It has helped in the weird scenario when you book your HEROs and can then activate a second AHL due to no face up monsters
Another application I forgot to mention! This card is so good for the deck. I like 3 because I am on one mask change to give me decent bit of ways to play going 1st while still being able to go 2nd. I was also not considering it because the best deck is a link based strategy, but gave it a shot anyway. I appreciate the comment and thank you for watching!
Thank you so much for sharing your insights and being this fast answering your community !! Decklist is suuuuper clean, just like the first of your channel that convinced me about your ideas and your content. Looking forward your next videos, always nice !!
I am glad you enjoyed! You are very welcome. Glad you enjoyed this list and let me know how it goes! I have plenty more information to share and to continue growing my channel!
Great deck profile. And I like the Side Deck Patterns for strategy. I wish more players would make use of the Side Deck for ideas of what to keep and what to replace.
I am glad you enjoyed, I think you always have to deck build with side deck in mind or else you are doing something wrong. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Hey Blake, love the deck. One question I have two shadow mists and a honest neos extra, plus an additional poly, and main deck dark angel My side deck is the same, except from the decimator which is switched for trinity vision hero Do you think I am doing a overkill with this or can I keep it like it is?
Hey, thanks man! I think if that is the way you want to play go for it. I do not find the 2nd mist necessary nor the honest neos. I find 1 poly enough once you get used to it, and I have discussed why I do not like Dark Angel in main for me right now. Really you should tailor your build for your own locals. That's what I have done with mine which is what this list is! Thank you for asking the question!
All I really have is locals until nats! Just wanted to show another list I am messing around with for those who do not have thrust. Glad you enjoyed and thank you for the support!
@@benjaminelmer1657 I figured showing the two most popular decks was prevalent enough but maybe I can show how I sided for the day for those matchups instead?
Great list man! Almost the same as the one I have been playing , really like the non engine choice I think it's perfect for the deck because most of these cards are usefull (in this deck) going first as well and they all synergize with droplet go second. only think you can might try is one called or one prosp in main instead of the talent, I think one copy could be enough. Anyway great video!
I like those cards but I feel as though they are only really good going 1st (called by in certain matchups can be used going 2nd), while talents is just an overall insane card. I love prosp but it is always a side card for me for going 1st and I have plenty of going 1st cards for this list sadly. Thank you for the suggestions though and I'm very glad you enjoyed!
I literally have the same reasons for the non-engine, word for word, that's insane! Probably worth mentioning the triple-axis ability of impermanence which is the only handtrap that can't be calle'd, doesn't proc tactic's and can be drawn as sixth to break boards unlike any monster handtrap!
It's a very solid nonengine ratio! You're absolutely correct about imperm. I just did not feel the need to explain it too much because it does not have as much synergy with the HERO deck as the other cards! Thank you for watching and commenting!
@@BlakeHERO I understand and you are absolutely right in not over-explaining! I could never not talk for at least 1 hour for my HERO profiles, I just love explaining deckbuilding so much (and the Best Deck, of course
@@YukiHeroYGO I could easily talk for hours haha, I just know people do not really enjoy videos that long so I am trying to get better at quickly explaining things (which means sometimes things get left out sadly)
I actually played S:P for my OTS Championship a few months ago. I played it because if they stop you at Faris and you do not place the vision HERO in the S/T zone you are not locked and you can summon go S:P pass when you get stopped. Another application is it protects your plays turn 3 as well as it being a warrior to link into Cross Crusader the next turn so it does not get stuck either. Faris only locks you the rest of the turn important to note. I stopped played it because of space plus the card is way too expensive for how little it came up. Thank you for asking the question and I appreciate you watching my content!
Really good video man. I love Eclipse and have it in mine too, ive been on 2 in 41-42 i will see about making room for 3. I do agree with what you said, and the side is interesting. I love hearing your thoughts. I had taken rivalry out because i dont have thrust even tho its so good. I do like 3 cosmic, and especially my locals you have to have Ash in side and ive considered even droll again. You dont want to get caught with your pants down by branded and Lab lmao! Droll for the rogue decks
That makes sense to me! Seems like a solid build. I really think rivalry is a god card and I would be even maining it a competitive event besides locals. I'm not the biggest fan of droll just because I do not think it is usually a very good hand trap against the meta although it is very high-rolly. I really like eclispe too and I would play 3 in this type of build over the extra mask changes in the main! I'm glad you enjoyed and thank you for the continued support!
Stratos vs vyon normal summon. For the longest time, I been a bigger fan of vyon and with malicious at 3, it makes the foolish effect much effective. Downside of stratos is that it locks you to droll if they have it and vyon at least gets you the poly. Besides 3 copies of vyon makes it a better grind if you need to reuse the effect for foolish or poly. 3 a hero lives makes it feel you already have 3 stratos anyways, so having 6 vs 5. And vyon as normal monster can also be used to summon dark law to avoid droll. Since droll is one or the biggest counter to our deck. Any thoughts on 3 vyon
I think that is acceptable as well. I just prefer 3x Stratos because NS Vyon =/= full combo while NS Stratos is. I think our board is only really oppressive if we are able to get to the full board. Also you can easily go through 3 stratos because I am playing book of eclipse which turns your other AHL live if you book your 1st stratos. Thank you for asking the question though and I appreciate the discussion. Also thank you for watching!
@BlakeHERO the thing is with the amount of hand traps a player that knows the choke points for heroes. Will know that is either at getting poly or depending on the board state when activating poly. I usually exhaust opponent hand trap and normal vyon into malicious or shadow mist for the draw 2 possibility of extender can make it a bit better. 😅 I usually save my normal summon until is really needed though
@@kedge You should always save your normal summon if possible because it is the only way to play around hand traps! I actually have been trying 3 poly builds too that is really fun to stop that choke point although it can be a bit bricky. I think vyon is fine at 3 but I believe stratos as 3 is better because it allows you to get to full combo and you don't want to fit 6 normal summons in 40-42 cards. If I went to 45 like I see some HERO players do I would 100% 3 Stratos and 3 Vyon
You want to not play any nonengine and just play all HERO cards? I guess you could add the Evil HERO package, EN Shuffle + Blazeman. Spirit of neos + Protection of the Elements
I discussed EN shuffle a few comments down, I would only play EN shuffle with Blazeman and the Blazeman line is multiple cards. I think bagooska might be better here but I discuss my thoughts on shifter decks in my last matchup tier list video. If you still have questions after reading that thread let me know! Thank you for watching!
i somehow managed to avoid nibiru either by luck or by dodging it by dpe and then go full board (mainly against lab) and from my experience i play the beatrice plasma combo against lab is good enough, saying that i will try that book tech cause it seems noice
If they hold Nib till the end our combo naturally plays around it! There are cards to beat lab but I was not as prepared as I would have liked to be I guess. I appreciate your comment and let me know how books go!
It def would have! I unfortunately drew ash as my only nonengine and that kept me in the game without it I would have been completely blown out. I love D-Force though and will test it more for this format competitively! Thank you for watching and commenting!
It's always been a phenomenal card! I just did not think it was the format for it (tbh if I played against 3/5 snake eyes a week it probably would have been pretty bad), but I think it is amazing against almost everything else and has a LOT of good synergy with the deck. Thank you for watching and commenting!
If EN shuffle worked on any type of HERO monster or if it was a quick play I think it would see more play, I believe you need to play either blazeman or Spirit of Neos to really get the full benefit of playing EN shuffle. Thank you for the question!
Beatiful profile,i am surprise of 3 mask change 2 but its worth when you want to discard mali. For the side i play 3x crossout and shifter because i hate that card:no skill,just draw and you win,im enough of this shit.
Glad you liked it! The mask change 2s are mostly for beating all kinds of targeting effects as well as droll, having a good discard is just a plus! I played the 1x shifter when I played crossout in my hand trap variant. It always takes your opponent by surprise! I am thinking about doing the same but for d barrier because my locals has many lab players now. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Completely up to preference! I have tested both a lot and find that the situations that Dystopia comes up more common than the dangerous ones. Thank you for commenting
@@BlakeHERO really? dangerous can help fix my hand frequently and is good extender, it can foolish malicious or denier from your deck to gy, vyon become main starter with him and can do everything with only normal summon, also with xyz Beatrice (dangerous+mali) we can foolish break the destiny to add d force or foolish mask change and resetting it with wonder driver
@@axelprojump Dangerous is really only there to fix weak hands. By playing 2 increase and 3 Stratos I draw full combo way more often. The Vyon line is if it is your only play and you have nothing else in your hand. I think it is a good card as well but the applications of being able to turn your FD into an additional pop, also having 2 pops under droll, and being able to summon off of Favorite Contact in case of playing against breakers to also recycle two copies of malicious is hard to beat. If I played 3 vyon and 1 increase like I have talked about testing in the past I would definitely play Dangerous instead. Thank you for the discussion! Helps other players distinguish the two options!
I don't necessarily agree with that statement, I was shiftered a few times that day and with this list you just have so many defensive cards (Ash, Book, Imperm, Cosmic, the 1 Called by) when going 1st and getting shiftered. Shifter decks are also inherently bricky with the engines that that card must be played in and their engines are generally very weak to a lot of these cards. Nevertheless, I am glad you enjoyed the profile and thank you for the discussion!
@@BlakeHERO It's nice to read that you were still able to win the game without direct shifter outs. I also only have a huge problem against Tenapi if I have previously received a shifter, as many other handtraps and/or boardbreakers play. What are your experiences against Tenpai so far?
@@AlkhulkHERO I think against the other shifter decks you don't need direct shifter outs (most of them are bad especially without thrust).Tenpai is a different story, that deck only needs 1 monster to deal lethal but a lot of the cards I mentioned also work against them (cosmic the field spell, ash the quick play or prosp ect.) They also usually do not play talents. It is a tough matchup because they play a lot of nonengine and my experience so far as been exactly that, they have 6 card comboed me multiple times to where I end on nothing. This is why I put this matchup in a hard tier for my matchup tier list, it is up to them to draw the bad hand.
@@BlakeHERO By the way, you can also play dreadmaster against tenpai. this is the auto win button against tenpai as is the reason why i play dominance and dreadmatser in side deck. Do you know my combo of these?
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Another nice video. I like the discussion of the side deck. It’s where most of my thoughts go into when deck building HEROs
For sure! There aren't many flex spots so that generally comes easy and the engine is mostly solved at this point. It's mostly in the side deck where you get to get creative. Thank you for the kind words and watching!
Hey Blake HERO, everyone here
omg exactly what i was looking for and hoping for!
perfect content
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Played book of eclipse for a while, but at 2 as didn’t want to draw multiples most of the time, clearly think alike! It has helped in the weird scenario when you book your HEROs and can then activate a second AHL due to no face up monsters
Another application I forgot to mention! This card is so good for the deck. I like 3 because I am on one mask change to give me decent bit of ways to play going 1st while still being able to go 2nd. I was also not considering it because the best deck is a link based strategy, but gave it a shot anyway. I appreciate the comment and thank you for watching!
Thank you so much for sharing your insights and being this fast answering your community !!
Decklist is suuuuper clean, just like the first of your channel that convinced me about your ideas and your content.
Looking forward your next videos, always nice !!
I am glad you enjoyed! You are very welcome. Glad you enjoyed this list and let me know how it goes! I have plenty more information to share and to continue growing my channel!
Great deck profile. And I like the Side Deck Patterns for strategy. I wish more players would make use of the Side Deck for ideas of what to keep and what to replace.
I am glad you enjoyed, I think you always have to deck build with side deck in mind or else you are doing something wrong. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Hey Blake, love the deck.
One question
I have two shadow mists and a honest neos extra, plus an additional poly, and main deck dark angel
My side deck is the same, except from the decimator which is switched for trinity vision hero
Do you think I am doing a overkill with this or can I keep it like it is?
Hey, thanks man! I think if that is the way you want to play go for it. I do not find the 2nd mist necessary nor the honest neos. I find 1 poly enough once you get used to it, and I have discussed why I do not like Dark Angel in main for me right now. Really you should tailor your build for your own locals. That's what I have done with mine which is what this list is! Thank you for asking the question!
Been following and im excited to see what this new profile can do! Goodluck at your next locals buddy
All I really have is locals until nats! Just wanted to show another list I am messing around with for those who do not have thrust. Glad you enjoyed and thank you for the support!
@@BlakeHERO I'm glad to see a profile without thrust. Smart choice also would love to see more prevalent siding patterns, super helpful
@@benjaminelmer1657 I figured showing the two most popular decks was prevalent enough but maybe I can show how I sided for the day for those matchups instead?
Great list man! Almost the same as the one I have been playing , really like the non engine choice I think it's perfect for the deck because most of these cards are usefull (in this deck) going first as well and they all synergize with droplet go second. only think you can might try is one called or one prosp in main instead of the talent, I think one copy could be enough. Anyway great video!
I like those cards but I feel as though they are only really good going 1st (called by in certain matchups can be used going 2nd), while talents is just an overall insane card. I love prosp but it is always a side card for me for going 1st and I have plenty of going 1st cards for this list sadly. Thank you for the suggestions though and I'm very glad you enjoyed!
I literally have the same reasons for the non-engine, word for word, that's insane! Probably worth mentioning the triple-axis ability of impermanence which is the only handtrap that can't be calle'd, doesn't proc tactic's and can be drawn as sixth to break boards unlike any monster handtrap!
It's a very solid nonengine ratio! You're absolutely correct about imperm. I just did not feel the need to explain it too much because it does not have as much synergy with the HERO deck as the other cards! Thank you for watching and commenting!
@@BlakeHERO I understand and you are absolutely right in not over-explaining! I could never not talk for at least 1 hour for my HERO profiles, I just love explaining deckbuilding so much (and the Best Deck, of course
@@YukiHeroYGO I could easily talk for hours haha, I just know people do not really enjoy videos that long so I am trying to get better at quickly explaining things (which means sometimes things get left out sadly)
@@BlakeHERO I can see we are very alike! (In fact I also did a HERO matchup spreadsheet months ago, although it was pretty bad lol)
@@YukiHeroYGOgreat minds think alike! Thank you for supporting
Yo dude. Is there any where to incorporate sp little knight? Because the effect of Faris is saying you can only summons hero for the rest of the game.
I actually played S:P for my OTS Championship a few months ago. I played it because if they stop you at Faris and you do not place the vision HERO in the S/T zone you are not locked and you can summon go S:P pass when you get stopped. Another application is it protects your plays turn 3 as well as it being a warrior to link into Cross Crusader the next turn so it does not get stuck either. Faris only locks you the rest of the turn important to note. I stopped played it because of space plus the card is way too expensive for how little it came up. Thank you for asking the question and I appreciate you watching my content!
@@BlakeHERO thank you for the answer that really helped
@@ZEN_Achilles Of course! I am always happy to answer any questions people have about the deck! Please share and subscribe!
Really good video man. I love Eclipse and have it in mine too, ive been on 2 in 41-42 i will see about making room for 3. I do agree with what you said, and the side is interesting. I love hearing your thoughts.
I had taken rivalry out because i dont have thrust even tho its so good. I do like 3 cosmic, and especially my locals you have to have Ash in side and ive considered even droll again. You dont want to get caught with your pants down by branded and Lab lmao! Droll for the rogue decks
That makes sense to me! Seems like a solid build. I really think rivalry is a god card and I would be even maining it a competitive event besides locals. I'm not the biggest fan of droll just because I do not think it is usually a very good hand trap against the meta although it is very high-rolly. I really like eclispe too and I would play 3 in this type of build over the extra mask changes in the main! I'm glad you enjoyed and thank you for the continued support!
@@BlakeHERO droll is bad against meta! Agree there. Thanks dude keep bringing us the fire man.
@@bobstoner415 Always appreciate the support, thank you!
@@BlakeHERO Well deserved, we are all in this together brother!
Stratos vs vyon normal summon.
For the longest time, I been a bigger fan of vyon and with malicious at 3, it makes the foolish effect much effective.
Downside of stratos is that it locks you to droll if they have it and vyon at least gets you the poly. Besides 3 copies of vyon makes it a better grind if you need to reuse the effect for foolish or poly.
3 a hero lives makes it feel you already have 3 stratos anyways, so having 6 vs 5. And vyon as normal monster can also be used to summon dark law to avoid droll. Since droll is one or the biggest counter to our deck.
Any thoughts on 3 vyon
I think that is acceptable as well. I just prefer 3x Stratos because NS Vyon =/= full combo while NS Stratos is. I think our board is only really oppressive if we are able to get to the full board. Also you can easily go through 3 stratos because I am playing book of eclipse which turns your other AHL live if you book your 1st stratos. Thank you for asking the question though and I appreciate the discussion. Also thank you for watching!
@BlakeHERO the thing is with the amount of hand traps a player that knows the choke points for heroes. Will know that is either at getting poly or depending on the board state when activating poly.
I usually exhaust opponent hand trap and normal vyon into malicious or shadow mist for the draw 2 possibility of extender can make it a bit better. 😅
I usually save my normal summon until is really needed though
@@kedge You should always save your normal summon if possible because it is the only way to play around hand traps! I actually have been trying 3 poly builds too that is really fun to stop that choke point although it can be a bit bricky. I think vyon is fine at 3 but I believe stratos as 3 is better because it allows you to get to full combo and you don't want to fit 6 normal summons in 40-42 cards. If I went to 45 like I see some HERO players do I would 100% 3 Stratos and 3 Vyon
I havent gotten to that point in the vid yet but id love to know your siding patterns vs the big current decks for with the thrust version of the deck
I will start doing this at the end of my profiles! Seems to be highly requested. Thank you for leaving a comment and watching!
great video ! love hearing about other players experience with the deck against the meta stuff
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Doing a great job man keep it up!
Thx for your work.
and thank you for commenting and supporting!
Hey any good hero cards that replace the non engine cards
You want to not play any nonengine and just play all HERO cards? I guess you could add the Evil HERO package, EN Shuffle + Blazeman. Spirit of neos + Protection of the Elements
@@BlakeHERO so add EN shuffle, blazeman, spirit of neos and protection of the elementd
@@iwouldve8100 yes and evil HERO malicious bane and adusted gold
Thoughts on EN Shuffle at 3 in the main? And Blazeman at 1 in the main since shifter is running rampant?
I discussed EN shuffle a few comments down, I would only play EN shuffle with Blazeman and the Blazeman line is multiple cards. I think bagooska might be better here but I discuss my thoughts on shifter decks in my last matchup tier list video. If you still have questions after reading that thread let me know! Thank you for watching!
i somehow managed to avoid nibiru either by luck or by dodging it by dpe and then go full board (mainly against lab) and from my experience i play the beatrice plasma combo against lab is good enough, saying that i will try that book tech cause it seems noice
If they hold Nib till the end our combo naturally plays around it! There are cards to beat lab but I was not as prepared as I would have liked to be I guess. I appreciate your comment and let me know how books go!
Against the Lab match D - Force would have def helped.
It def would have! I unfortunately drew ash as my only nonengine and that kept me in the game without it I would have been completely blown out. I love D-Force though and will test it more for this format competitively! Thank you for watching and commenting!
took my advice on book of eclipse
It's always been a phenomenal card! I just did not think it was the format for it (tbh if I played against 3/5 snake eyes a week it probably would have been pretty bad), but I think it is amazing against almost everything else and has a LOT of good synergy with the deck. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Have you thought of playing EN shuffle? I have been having some luck with it and I get to dark law much faster and easier than usual.
If EN shuffle worked on any type of HERO monster or if it was a quick play I think it would see more play, I believe you need to play either blazeman or Spirit of Neos to really get the full benefit of playing EN shuffle. Thank you for the question!
This video is freaking awesome!
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Beatiful profile,i am surprise of 3 mask change 2 but its worth when you want to discard mali. For the side i play 3x crossout and shifter because i hate that card:no skill,just draw and you win,im enough of this shit.
Glad you liked it! The mask change 2s are mostly for beating all kinds of targeting effects as well as droll, having a good discard is just a plus! I played the 1x shifter when I played crossout in my hand trap variant. It always takes your opponent by surprise! I am thinking about doing the same but for d barrier because my locals has many lab players now. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Wow! Cool profile. Can i ask what language you speak at home
Great video as always!
And thank you for the idea to try out mask change 2 for this format! Will always give credit where credit is due
Hey any chance of a hero profile that can run in master duel 👏
Sorry friend! I do not play master duel
Good list! although i prefer dangerous instead dystopia
Completely up to preference! I have tested both a lot and find that the situations that Dystopia comes up more common than the dangerous ones. Thank you for commenting
@@BlakeHERO really? dangerous can help fix my hand frequently and is good extender, it can foolish malicious or denier from your deck to gy, vyon become main starter with him and can do everything with only normal summon, also with xyz Beatrice (dangerous+mali) we can foolish break the destiny to add d force or foolish mask change and resetting it with wonder driver
@@axelprojump Dangerous is really only there to fix weak hands. By playing 2 increase and 3 Stratos I draw full combo way more often. The Vyon line is if it is your only play and you have nothing else in your hand. I think it is a good card as well but the applications of being able to turn your FD into an additional pop, also having 2 pops under droll, and being able to summon off of Favorite Contact in case of playing against breakers to also recycle two copies of malicious is hard to beat. If I played 3 vyon and 1 increase like I have talked about testing in the past I would definitely play Dangerous instead. Thank you for the discussion! Helps other players distinguish the two options!
Thanks man
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Another banger! 🎉
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Blake always 6 card combo me😢
You are my hero.
Thank you for the kind words and glad you enjoyed!
Good Profile. But you Lose against shifter with this side deck my friend
I don't necessarily agree with that statement, I was shiftered a few times that day and with this list you just have so many defensive cards (Ash, Book, Imperm, Cosmic, the 1 Called by) when going 1st and getting shiftered. Shifter decks are also inherently bricky with the engines that that card must be played in and their engines are generally very weak to a lot of these cards. Nevertheless, I am glad you enjoyed the profile and thank you for the discussion!
@@BlakeHERO It's nice to read that you were still able to win the game without direct shifter outs. I also only have a huge problem against Tenapi if I have previously received a shifter, as many other handtraps and/or boardbreakers play. What are your experiences against Tenpai so far?
@@AlkhulkHERO I think against the other shifter decks you don't need direct shifter outs (most of them are bad especially without thrust).Tenpai is a different story, that deck only needs 1 monster to deal lethal but a lot of the cards I mentioned also work against them (cosmic the field spell, ash the quick play or prosp ect.) They also usually do not play talents. It is a tough matchup because they play a lot of nonengine and my experience so far as been exactly that, they have 6 card comboed me multiple times to where I end on nothing. This is why I put this matchup in a hard tier for my matchup tier list, it is up to them to draw the bad hand.
@@BlakeHERO Yes, I agree with you on every point. Those have been my experiences so far
@@BlakeHERO By the way, you can also play dreadmaster against tenpai. this is the auto win button against tenpai as is the reason why i play dominance and dreadmatser in side deck. Do you know my combo of these?
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