@@flesz_ It's a part of not doing the same mistakes as during the 1930's, and the previous expansive empire looking to invade neighboring countries in Europe.
CEOs and boards of directors of companies found to be violating sanctions should face prison time. Laws must be enacted to this effect and then watch how fast their behavior changes.
Changing ceo's won't change a thing, once a product is in the market, people will find a way to sell them Russians. If Russians are willing to pay the price, there will always be somebody willing to get the cut from selling them.
Name these companies, out them into the public light. This is what they fear the most. Make them an example, others will take notice and stop or at least go through more hassle to evade sanctions.
As a foreigner living in a small city in Russia, a few days ago, I saw a brand new BMW 7 series parked just outside a restaurant, so I wouldn't be surprised that someone knew how to import many banned items from the West to Russia. I can see many shops sell other so called "sanctioned" and "banned" foreigner companies products, such as Apple iPhone 14, new Nike, Adidas, Reebok and many other sports wears and accessories. There's always a loophole to be able imported those commercial goods to Russia.
It's always going to be near-impossible for the practice of sanctioning a nation to completely reach its aims. There will always be rogues, breaking the law / exploiting loopholes etc. That said, if the goods are scarce and prices massively inflated, then it is progress of a fashion, still. And the best we can hope for, ultimately.
Companies that bust sanctions should face fines, Meta has just been fined a 1.2 billion dollars fine imposed by the EU. If these sanctions are serious enough, they will toe the line.
It's not the "Dutch" or the "Chinese" word that is central here; it is the "Dutch subsidiary" phrase that is important. "A Dutch subsidiary" means DUTCH, first, SUBSIDIARY, second... and then, CHINESE, third.... in that order. No Chinese or Chinese company is going to supersede, veto, or make the over-all decisions of a "Dutch subsidiary," without the approval of the Dutch or whoever/whatever entity UNDER which that company is a SUBSIDIARY... (Let's just call it a SHELL COMPANY or a SCAM, if you want... if that's what it is... so no respectable Dutch has to take responsibility for it...) You don't subcontract someone or a company that you have no idea what they do or who they are... whether they are good, reliable, or a scam. Especially if the work is about technologies or weapons, or national defense projects. You also don't form "subsidiary" units or business/line of business or companies with another company or nation... again, if you don't know what they do, how they make decisions. "Sorry, this is a JUST a Dutch subsidiary of a Chinese company, with all Chinese running the show... with the "Dutch" word attached for only legal/auxiliary purposes (aka for a little cut of the profit)... so we have no idea how THE CHINESE running the company conduct business" is just NOT a good, sound argument.
😂 Doesn't change the fact it is going from Europe and meets all European legal requirements. Dji drones are one thing but what about semiconductor chips made in EU. Openly leaving a loophole for EU companies to exploit. This is not Chinese or Kazak's fault but EU's short coming intensionally left to make profits.
@@kiabtoomlauj6249 But that is exactly how it works. Subsidiary is a daughter company fully owned by the parent company. So "Dutch subsidiary of a Chinese company" = Chinese parent company owns 100% of this subsidiary. It is irrelevant who is actually working there, the owners (Chinese) call all the shots. The only Dutch thing about this subsidiary is that it has to follow the Dutch law instead of Chinese. This is definitely Chinese (individuals or government, we have no idea) bypassing sanctions and war profiteering. Same with the first example where German company made a subsidiary in Kazakhstan and sold electronics to Russia - this is 100% responsibility of the people from Germany behind it and Kazakhstan has nothing to do with it except enforcement of their laws over such company. This is what subsidiary means. Absolutely elementary economics.
You have been repeating this BS again and again and again. The goal is not to dry out the world oil and gas market, the goal is to prevent Ruzzia from making big money with it. Their oil and gas is sold less, it's sold cheaper, and is goes longer ways which is more costly. Yes, other countries like India benefit from it - but Ruzzia does not. India also fuels bankrupt Sri Lanka - no problem with that. So get it finally right. There are no 'double standards'. There is just one standard that says "Pukk FooTin in any possible way".
@Frank Yboy You should change your BS to DS (Double Standards), eh! In terms of psychiatric evaluation, you are at Stage 1 of 5 in the self-denial mental stage.
Don't worry. Everyone in the chain is making money except Russia. With the price of crude currently at about $70 and the price cap at $60, the Russian seller must be below the cost to produce ($45), cost of shipping notwithstanding
A lot of the companies used are smaller and not getting huge orders. It can be hard for a small company, and even some big ones to follow the daisy chain of companies back to russia. They would require new rules for the entire russian customs unions. That would effect a lot of stans. Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, etcetera.
if the crime becomes a CULTURE like in Nederlands and Swizerland ... its there to STAY These countries should be blanket sanctioned independently od their individual mobsters THIS will never happen so ... ppl around the world are doomed to pay with blood. The ''good'' side of things is that the NATURE himself intervenes and award the victims in other ways ..like better birthrates , healthier lives etc WE WILL SEE where all this leads
Thanks for the investigation guys. All we need is the manufacturer companies' names, and we can boycott them. If they are not going to take steps to stop the breaches of sanctions with their products. And countries and manufacturers which enable breaches of sanctions need to be sanctioned.
We in Vietnam suffered 19yrs of American sanctions 1975-94 and we starved. To you sanctions are just a word...you who have never been hungry even one day of your life...go on go and stuff some more food down your throat whilst children of Afganistan and Syria and else where starve ?
Why? Most people don't care about it so almost nobody boycotts them. I know companies that keep their businesses in Russia, do I stop buying their stuff? No. Because companies have a right to earn money. I would sell goods to Russia myself if it was profitable. A government that makes all the sanctions doesn't cover any financial losses.
How are you personally helping out? What did YOU do to make Russia end occupation? Russia will not end anything, until YOU (and others like you) DO something about it. Stop with your useless words, nobody cares. Go DO it!
The queues of trucks through Georgia stretch for miles and miles. They're full of EU goods driven across Turkey, cross into Georgia and then onto Russia. Georgia is building more warehousing and border checkpoints to cope with all the increased trade.
Reebok have been doing this. They sell their products to Turkey and they rename the product with a Russian name and import them to Russia. Same goods from Reebok but diverted to avoid the sanctions.
Exports of sanctioned goods/products from European countries to some central Asian countries like Usbekistan and Kazakhstan have increased up to 1000 percent after the sanctions against Russia started. Some of this export was even transported via Russia. Luckily they banned transit of military equipment via Russia. There is still transit of other goods though. This is a difficult issue. We cannot completely ban exports of certain goods to some countries just because they have not joined the sanctions or because they have high corruption. Because more than half of world's countries belong to this category.
Ministry of defence in these countries should take the evidence to court and make hefty fines. Undermine the profits make from blood, at least let them contribute to the country.
In the case cited in this report, it sounds like the companies only existed to funnel drones to Russia. There probably aren't a whole lot of profits to fine. They need to charge the people who set these companies up as foreign agents.
@Roy I don't really get people who want to send people to jail, yes I'm sure it has some role, but as an active function it is extremely wasteful and inefficient to pay to keep people trapped somewhat humanely doing nothing useful. Its role is ironically most useful for people who aren't involved with it, to deter them from dabbling in moral ambiguity. So if you must send people to jail, fine. But if at all possible it is better to find alternatives.
@@mutkaluikkunen3926 the western hypocrisy that I mean is that the west supports Ukraine in its war with Russia and the west also helps Russia in procuring its weapons components... this is a double standard carried out by the west. 😎
@@heryhermawan7824 I'm pretty sure no government in the west is intentionally supporting ruzzia, the opposite. As they said on the clip, there are some Chinese and ruzzian companies involved in smuggling banned goods into ruzzia. That can hardly be called as a double standard by "the west", now can it?
Ethnical Kazakhs are against the war. This is done by few individuals who are ethnical russians but have Kazakhstan passport. Let’s focus on the individuals, not the entire population. Be precise.
As a Kazakh I can definitely say there are plenty of Kazakhs brainwashed by Russian media and there are also ethnic Russians in KZ opposed to this war. As you say - focus on individuals not ethnic groups
So why isn't the Kazakh government cracking down on these individuals? It's either Kazakhstan shuts them down or the EU might have to help them with that by placing secondary sanctions on Kazakhstan.
@@mutkaluikkunen3926 it is a fair question. But it is not correct to point only to Kazakhstan. In the end, the goods are coming from somewhere else, what these countries are doing? About Kazakhstan side in this issue. It can be many reasons. One can be that it could have slipped through in the overall trade. Yes, we do have trade with Russia, that's the reality of having the longest inland border in the world with this country.... But rest of the world still has it too. you can check the agrochemicals, gas etc. Another reason can be that our government is walking on a very thin line... This is also a reality: being stuck between China and Russia. Unfortunately, Kazakhstan cannot openly confront Russia, we have no power for that... And if we do confront Russia - we will not get same support as Ukraine does from the west... We are too far from the western world, geographically, historically... Our president is trying to navigate this situation without openly confronting Russia but at the same time also with withdrawing from supporting russian aggression. Kazakhstan is trying to slowly and softly stay away from Russia and it's plans This is the reality.
One thing I am confident about is the position of kazakhs: we are with Ukrainians. Since the beginning of the war, many Kazakh individuals collected humanitarian help and sent to Ukraine. And I know that some people still do it. We've suffered ourselves a lot in our history, we feel Ukrainians
@@a.n-v2337 I can understand the dilemma of trying to keep ruzzkies happy. I'm from Finland and we've had to do our fair share of kissing ruzzkie butt in our history, but there could also be, shall we say, less incentive on the Kazakhstan side to take action against the companies exporting sanctioned goods into ruzzia. I'm not saying you should put the middle finger up to ruzzia, but targeted strikes on on the companies breaking the sanctions would do wonders. The west could put an ultimatum on "countries friendly with ruzzia" to stop re-exporting these goods and that would give Kazakhstan, among others, the perfect excuse to stop those companies. You wouldn't be acting on you own accord, but rather coerced by the countries producing these goods.
You don't had to go after these small players, just ask your Google, Apple and Microsoft to deactivate the licenses of all the Windows, Mac, iOs and Android operating systems in all devices that are connected to internet in Russia, we will see how many of the billions of devices used in industries, hospitals, military infrastructures, government buildings and individuals can survive by cracking the OS or switching to linux or Harmony OS.
Any company supplying Russia should have their business charter revoked and the company hierarchy be tried and if found guilty, imprisoned. Any NATO country supplying Russia should be expelled.
we must hope action comes swiftly, it would be wise for those with connections to keep with it til these practices are prohibited. the weight of such cases can not be emphasized.
What a shame that for some companies, "blood money" outweighs "humanity". To turn a blind eye to evil is absolutely despicable. Perhaps if the war directly affected THEIR lives and loved ones, THEIR homes, they'd be singing a different tune. THEY are the ones prolonging this war.
War profiteering has alway been a great way get rich quick. Sadly, the companies that are involved are usually protected by politicians and local governments. Corruption is not a solely Russian monopoly.
In this case its not about "get rich quick" but more about survival for these companies. Really and truly no one cares about Ukraine outside of Europe and North America and just want to do regular business with these companies. Why should the global south suffer for scantions applied by the Europeans/USAmericans.
We sanctioned exports of products A, B, C... How hard is to follow up on those export numbers? In our days it looks almost criminal to overlook such activities 😕 Edit: Or else, you sanction only products you can verify and control.
Ukraine will have its own drones. Surely, airports employ systems than are non-specific in downing all drones in the vicinity of said airport. It's also likely a problem logistically (to cover the whole of a vast nation) in such a way. Then, there is the fact they'd have to ensure Ukrainian drones were immune to such counter-measures (if Ukraine is to be allowed to continue to benefit from drone technology), in which case the question is begged, is it possible to do that en masse?
They did. But the Russians and Ukrainians were cancelling each other out. Then someone came out with dji hack to remove that function. It's illegal to know that hack btw.
Germany is going through recession. I hope someday dw will find few seconds time to discuss issues at home. 24×7 constant russia bashing is beginning to look a bit boring.
Why was the most important question not asked in this interview. You found these specific individuals and their companies, are the Dutch and German governments and their partners taking steps to sanction these individuals and shut down their companies? If nothing else, they can at least shut down these individual sources surely, possibly arrest the owners?
it would be possible to block the sale of microchips and components to Russia if there was a will, but it would require a trade embargo similar to what the United States implemented in relation to Cuba, i.e. a total trade embargo where no product goes to Russia and nothing leaves it, and if any 3 countries, ect... Kazakhstan, do not follow this it will also be on the sanctions list. It's kind of unbelievable that the West and the EU are so naive that they haven't figured out how to block this.
You do understand that embargo needs enforcement how exactly do you plan on stopping say a chinese ship goin in to russian waters you do understand that siezing a ship might work once next time they might decide to send a military escort the only reason us was able to do cuba is coz cuba is not a military force china and russia are very different things
The US can enforce a trade embargo on Cuba. They can encircle it with ships etc. and cut it out from the rest of the world. Russia has the longest land border in the world try to enforce any restriction on that one... It will be insanely expensive and ineffective just look at the US-Mexico border... Plus if there is a lot of money involved (which is) corruption will find a way... Sanctions in reality are a paper that will restrict less profitable/highly competitive business. The arms business is simply too lucrative for them to have noticeable short-term effects. Look at Iran one of the most sanctioned countries in the world and they have a more potent conventional army than the whole of Western Europe combined...
@@kristianhristov7193 In fact, the Cuban embargo went like this, and it is still in effect, that if I sell something from the EU to Cuba, the United States will impose sanctions on me or my company. Chinese merchant ships do not need to be physically stopped, it can be done so that if a violation is found, the EU can say that we will pull the factories out of China, and we will no longer order goods from there. simple no need for wars.
Reminds me of Willborough Ross who despite US sanctions, his companies continued to deal with russia while he was in the Trump administration as Secretary of the Department of Commerce ... how fitting.
Well war is a racket after all, as US Major General Smedley Butler famously wrote 100 years ago. Looks like the players have changed but the game still remains the same. This war with Russia has been a real boom for the ususal few
If your hardware is reaching to your enemy, don't you think that it's your fault that you go and sell your products all over the world and strive for more money?
This is less a story about leveraging secondary sanctions against countries like Kazakhstan, and more a story about EU States cracking down on sanction busters within their own boarders
Please give a list of those companies to the public!
Who cares
@@flesz_ It's a part of not doing the same mistakes as during the 1930's, and the previous expansive empire looking to invade neighboring countries in Europe.
What a childish quip.
The ratio of 14/1 currently cares.
@@flesz_ I care and many millions do. We are against the russian imperialistic madness! We would like to see those out of business ASAP!
@@gluteusmaximus1657 maybe you do, but not sure where did you get millions from.
CEOs and boards of directors of companies found to be violating sanctions should face prison time.
Laws must be enacted to this effect and then watch how fast their behavior changes.
Lol 😆
you mean those same companies which already break the law by avoiding tax?
@@aroudedinsulance4307 What companies who are avoiding paying tax ? Name them ..😒
Changing ceo's won't change a thing, once a product is in the market, people will find a way to sell them Russians. If Russians are willing to pay the price, there will always be somebody willing to get the cut from selling them.
@@STHFGDBY the trump organization 🤣
Name these companies, out them into the public light. This is what they fear the most. Make them an example, others will take notice and stop or at least go through more hassle to evade sanctions.
They can just change their papers enough times so it's like an infinite game of international company wack-a-mole.
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As a foreigner living in a small city in Russia, a few days ago, I saw a brand new BMW 7 series parked just outside a restaurant, so I wouldn't be surprised that someone knew how to import many banned items from the West to Russia. I can see many shops sell other so called "sanctioned" and "banned" foreigner companies products, such as Apple iPhone 14, new Nike, Adidas, Reebok and many other sports wears and accessories. There's always a loophole to be able imported those commercial goods to Russia.
It's always going to be near-impossible for the practice of sanctioning a nation to completely reach its aims. There will always be rogues, breaking the law / exploiting loopholes etc. That said, if the goods are scarce and prices massively inflated, then it is progress of a fashion, still. And the best we can hope for, ultimately.
Regular people can ship cars to another country. BMW isn’t selling it to Russia
@@LSmoney215 no but they are selling more to China so that China can send it to Russia.
"I saw a brand new BMW 7 series parked just outside a restaurant"
So a Russian mafia member was hungry?
@@LSmoney215 "Regular people can ship drones to another country. DJI isn't selling it to Russia" - could've been a good title for this video
thanks to the sanctions, now I'm watching TH-cam in Russia without ads
Noice
I just use an ad blocker. To each for their own, I guess.
your asking too much from politicians, they already announced sanctions.. now you want them implemented (^_^)
Based
Companies that bust sanctions should face fines, Meta has just been fined a 1.2 billion dollars fine imposed by the EU. If these sanctions are serious enough, they will toe the line.
If this is true it's really sickening
Let's not get confused here: A Dutch subsidiary of a Chinese company is a Chinese company operating in the neatherlands.
Its not a dutch company.
It's not the "Dutch" or the "Chinese" word that is central here; it is the "Dutch subsidiary" phrase that is important. "A Dutch subsidiary" means DUTCH, first, SUBSIDIARY, second... and then, CHINESE, third.... in that order.
No Chinese or Chinese company is going to supersede, veto, or make the over-all decisions of a "Dutch subsidiary," without the approval of the Dutch or whoever/whatever entity UNDER which that company is a SUBSIDIARY... (Let's just call it a SHELL COMPANY or a SCAM, if you want... if that's what it is... so no respectable Dutch has to take responsibility for it...)
You don't subcontract someone or a company that you have no idea what they do or who they are... whether they are good, reliable, or a scam. Especially if the work is about technologies or weapons, or national defense projects.
You also don't form "subsidiary" units or business/line of business or companies with another company or nation... again, if you don't know what they do, how they make decisions.
"Sorry, this is a JUST a Dutch subsidiary of a Chinese company, with all Chinese running the show... with the "Dutch" word attached for only legal/auxiliary purposes (aka for a little cut of the profit)... so we have no idea how THE CHINESE running the company conduct business" is just NOT a good, sound argument.
😂 Doesn't change the fact it is going from Europe and meets all European legal requirements. Dji drones are one thing but what about semiconductor chips made in EU.
Openly leaving a loophole for EU companies to exploit. This is not Chinese or Kazak's fault but EU's short coming intensionally left to make profits.
@@kiabtoomlauj6249 But that is exactly how it works. Subsidiary is a daughter company fully owned by the parent company. So "Dutch subsidiary of a Chinese company" = Chinese parent company owns 100% of this subsidiary. It is irrelevant who is actually working there, the owners (Chinese) call all the shots. The only Dutch thing about this subsidiary is that it has to follow the Dutch law instead of Chinese. This is definitely Chinese (individuals or government, we have no idea) bypassing sanctions and war profiteering. Same with the first example where German company made a subsidiary in Kazakhstan and sold electronics to Russia - this is 100% responsibility of the people from Germany behind it and Kazakhstan has nothing to do with it except enforcement of their laws over such company. This is what subsidiary means. Absolutely elementary economics.
My Dutch government should just shut down these companies. It's time to remove the rotten apples.
The directors should be jailed. Why is ltd companies can get away with anything !! Never any responsibility to the directors !!
Literally they should all be arrested
Don't forget to mention that the EU is still knowingly purchasing Russian oil via India, eh. Talk about double standards, eh.
You have been repeating this BS again and again and again. The goal is not to dry out the world oil and gas market, the goal is to prevent Ruzzia from making big money with it. Their oil and gas is sold less, it's sold cheaper, and is goes longer ways which is more costly. Yes, other countries like India benefit from it - but Ruzzia does not. India also fuels bankrupt Sri Lanka - no problem with that.
So get it finally right. There are no 'double standards'. There is just one standard that says "Pukk FooTin in any possible way".
Has nothing to do with double standards, well maybe if u mean India since they get all the revenue.
@Frank Yboy You should change your BS to DS (Double Standards), eh! In terms of psychiatric evaluation, you are at Stage 1 of 5 in the self-denial mental stage.
Don't worry. Everyone in the chain is making money except Russia. With the price of crude currently at about $70 and the price cap at $60, the Russian seller must be below the cost to produce ($45), cost of shipping notwithstanding
India follows the price cap and is bleeding russia dry. If anything buy more price capped oil please.
Criminal behaviour by CEOs should be corrected with prison sentences
A lot of the companies used are smaller and not getting huge orders. It can be hard for a small company, and even some big ones to follow the daisy chain of companies back to russia. They would require new rules for the entire russian customs unions. That would effect a lot of stans. Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, etcetera.
if the crime becomes a CULTURE like in Nederlands and Swizerland ... its there to STAY
These countries should be blanket sanctioned independently od their individual mobsters
THIS will never happen so ... ppl around the world are doomed to pay with blood. The ''good'' side of things is that the NATURE himself intervenes and award the victims in other ways ..like better birthrates , healthier lives etc
WE WILL SEE where all this leads
Yes ❤
your asking too much from politicians, they already announced sanctions.. now you want them implemented (^_^)
DJI: we don't sell drones to either side of the conflict!
Both sides: * uses DJI drones *
EU not buying Russia oil now, but buying from India(India buy cheap oil from Russia)????
DJI was selling dones there for years. What they do now is irrelevant, it's too late.
It is business. It does not matter what side😅
Just make it illegal to sell any sanctioned product to any country which trades with Russian, but do it now and save lives.
Everyone trades with Russia.
it's all about the volume..... a trickle of overpriced tech getting through is really not important
it is !
Germany ''trickled'' submarine ultra silent turbines to Russia and they BOMBED their NordStream :)))
Thanks for the investigation guys.
All we need is the manufacturer companies' names, and we can boycott them. If they are not going to take steps to stop the breaches of sanctions with their products.
And countries and manufacturers which enable breaches of sanctions need to be sanctioned.
We in Vietnam suffered 19yrs of American sanctions 1975-94 and we starved. To you sanctions are just a word...you who have never been hungry even one day of your life...go on go and stuff some more food down your throat whilst children of Afganistan and Syria and else where starve ?
your asking too much from politicians, they already announced sanctions.. now you want them implemented (^_^)
@@masakitonguba8919 It's not too much to ask. Governments are servants of the people.
Why? Most people don't care about it so almost nobody boycotts them. I know companies that keep their businesses in Russia, do I stop buying their stuff? No. Because companies have a right to earn money. I would sell goods to Russia myself if it was profitable. A government that makes all the sanctions doesn't cover any financial losses.
*Russia🇷🇺 still occupied oblast Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, Kherson, Crimea.*
Russia must end occupation & keep peace.
How are you personally helping out? What did YOU do to make Russia end occupation? Russia will not end anything, until YOU (and others like you) DO something about it. Stop with your useless words, nobody cares. Go DO it!
People wants to do business but politicians interfering in people's affairs.
Just make public the names of those violating sanctions and let consumers do the rest...
Germany is either feckless or complicit.
wtf Seth Rogan has to do with this?
The host is the bond villain in casino royale.
A commercial drone? This is hilarious, it's like asking how a Russian wears adidas sneakers, and adidas doesn't sell sneakers in Russia. 🤣
Yes, of course adidas sells sneakers there and there are tons of drones sold in the last decade.
The queues of trucks through Georgia stretch for miles and miles. They're full of EU goods driven across Turkey, cross into Georgia and then onto Russia. Georgia is building more warehousing and border checkpoints to cope with all the increased trade.
When the lion kills it's the hyena who profits.
I saw the lines along the russian military road. It was stretching for hours of driving.
your asking too much from politicians, they already announced sanctions.. now you want them implemented (^_^)
Greed has no limits.
Find the companies and stop doing any business with them. Money is power.
Just like Russia oil, India buy Russia cheap oil, then EU buy expensive oil from India... Money has no so power when people need on shortage....
Arrest those company owners now!!!!
Reebok have been doing this. They sell their products to Turkey and they rename the product with a Russian name and import them to Russia. Same goods from Reebok but diverted to avoid the sanctions.
Some people will always put money over morals
Yup!
That’s the west for u
@@ivanr4300 not just the west. It is quite universal. Corruption in russia and especially the russian army is quite legendary for example.
Это просто бизнес 😅
@@kimwit1307 just like in west !
People profiting from war? So shocking.
😂 Yep
This companies should be exposed and shamed besides sanction
Exports of sanctioned goods/products from European countries to some central Asian countries like Usbekistan and Kazakhstan have increased up to 1000 percent after the sanctions against Russia started. Some of this export was even transported via Russia. Luckily they banned transit of military equipment via Russia. There is still transit of other goods though.
This is a difficult issue. We cannot completely ban exports of certain goods to some countries just because they have not joined the sanctions or because they have high corruption. Because more than half of world's countries belong to this category.
Ministry of defence in these countries should take the evidence to court and make hefty fines.
Undermine the profits make from blood, at least let them contribute to the country.
They'll need to present a declaration of war against Russia to the court but since they don't have one... Yep
You are in start position for recession. If you want press it and you can’t stop it easily.
Fines? They should never see the light of day
In the case cited in this report, it sounds like the companies only existed to funnel drones to Russia. There probably aren't a whole lot of profits to fine. They need to charge the people who set these companies up as foreign agents.
@Roy I don't really get people who want to send people to jail, yes I'm sure it has some role, but as an active function it is extremely wasteful and inefficient to pay to keep people trapped somewhat humanely doing nothing useful.
Its role is ironically most useful for people who aren't involved with it, to deter them from dabbling in moral ambiguity.
So if you must send people to jail, fine. But if at all possible it is better to find alternatives.
Loopholes put in place by politicians whose friends happen to be CEOs of those companies...
You think a 2 person company has sway in the Dutch government?
How do you know this ? Show us the evidence to back that up ..
EVEN if this is true ...INDIVIDUAL countries still have A LOT of power all on their own
E.U cant and SHOULDNT beat the individual countries !
it's not strange for the people of the world that western hypocrisy occurs in various things.😂😎😎
Like chinese companies in the EU selling goods to a ruzzian owned business in Kazakhstan? You're a real Einstein, dude.
@@mutkaluikkunen3926 the western hypocrisy that I mean is that the west supports Ukraine in its war with Russia and the west also helps Russia in procuring its weapons components... this is a double standard carried out by the west. 😎
@@heryhermawan7824 I'm pretty sure no government in the west is intentionally supporting ruzzia, the opposite. As they said on the clip, there are some Chinese and ruzzian companies involved in smuggling banned goods into ruzzia. That can hardly be called as a double standard by "the west", now can it?
Ethnical Kazakhs are against the war. This is done by few individuals who are ethnical russians but have Kazakhstan passport. Let’s focus on the individuals, not the entire population. Be precise.
As a Kazakh I can definitely say there are plenty of Kazakhs brainwashed by Russian media and there are also ethnic Russians in KZ opposed to this war. As you say - focus on individuals not ethnic groups
So why isn't the Kazakh government cracking down on these individuals? It's either Kazakhstan shuts them down or the EU might have to help them with that by placing secondary sanctions on Kazakhstan.
@@mutkaluikkunen3926 it is a fair question.
But it is not correct to point only to Kazakhstan. In the end, the goods are coming from somewhere else, what these countries are doing?
About Kazakhstan side in this issue. It can be many reasons. One can be that it could have slipped through in the overall trade. Yes, we do have trade with Russia, that's the reality of having the longest inland border in the world with this country.... But rest of the world still has it too. you can check the agrochemicals, gas etc.
Another reason can be that our government is walking on a very thin line... This is also a reality: being stuck between China and Russia.
Unfortunately, Kazakhstan cannot openly confront Russia, we have no power for that... And if we do confront Russia - we will not get same support as Ukraine does from the west... We are too far from the western world, geographically, historically...
Our president is trying to navigate this situation without openly confronting Russia but at the same time also with withdrawing from supporting russian aggression.
Kazakhstan is trying to slowly and softly stay away from Russia and it's plans
This is the reality.
One thing I am confident about is the position of kazakhs: we are with Ukrainians.
Since the beginning of the war, many Kazakh individuals collected humanitarian help and sent to Ukraine. And I know that some people still do it.
We've suffered ourselves a lot in our history, we feel Ukrainians
@@a.n-v2337 I can understand the dilemma of trying to keep ruzzkies happy. I'm from Finland and we've had to do our fair share of kissing ruzzkie butt in our history, but there could also be, shall we say, less incentive on the Kazakhstan side to take action against the companies exporting sanctioned goods into ruzzia.
I'm not saying you should put the middle finger up to ruzzia, but targeted strikes on on the companies breaking the sanctions would do wonders. The west could put an ultimatum on "countries friendly with ruzzia" to stop re-exporting these goods and that would give Kazakhstan, among others, the perfect excuse to stop those companies.
You wouldn't be acting on you own accord, but rather coerced by the countries producing these goods.
They need money they don't care about human life.
This is so sad.
You don't had to go after these small players, just ask your Google, Apple and Microsoft to deactivate the licenses of all the Windows, Mac, iOs and Android operating systems in all devices that are connected to internet in Russia, we will see how many of the billions of devices used in industries, hospitals, military infrastructures, government buildings and individuals can survive by cracking the OS or switching to linux or Harmony OS.
these companys should be suied right now.
For what exactly 😂
Any company supplying Russia should have their business charter revoked and the company hierarchy be tried and if found guilty, imprisoned. Any NATO country supplying Russia should be expelled.
Can't do anything without a declaration of war 😆
Lock them up!
It was always clear that there're no absolute sanctions. This sanctions reduce the number of tech-imports not bring it down to zero.
Nothing's absolute, but it doesn't mean you can still improve on them.
your asking too much from politicians, they already announced sanctions.. now you want them implemented (^_^)
I respect independence of media in European countries. They definitely criticise their own countries. I
How about India?
your asking too much from politicians, they already announced sanctions.. now you want them implemented (^_^)
we must hope action comes swiftly,
it would be wise for those with connections to keep with it til these practices are prohibited.
the weight of such cases can not be emphasized.
lol. Corruption in the West is the principal cause of this conflict. You cannot do much about it
*Arrest❗* Throw those European _businessmen_ *to jail‼️*
if drugs can be traded i think microchips would be way easier
What a shame that for some companies, "blood money" outweighs "humanity". To turn a blind eye to evil is absolutely despicable. Perhaps if the war directly affected THEIR lives and loved ones, THEIR homes, they'd be singing a different tune. THEY are the ones prolonging this war.
Spot on. The US MIC should be purged of these warpigs.
your asking too much from politicians, they already announced sanctions.. now you want them implemented (^_^)
War profiteering has alway been a great way get rich quick. Sadly, the companies that are involved are usually protected by politicians and local governments. Corruption is not a solely Russian monopoly.
In this case its not about "get rich quick" but more about survival for these companies. Really and truly no one cares about Ukraine outside of Europe and North America and just want to do regular business with these companies. Why should the global south suffer for scantions applied by the Europeans/USAmericans.
Russia is a corruption free country in comparison to the West. Biden is the prime example of a corrupt politician ... and he runs the US
We need to demand better of our governments & institutions, let countries like Russia corrode from corruption & incompetence, we must evolve.
your asking too much from politicians, they already announced sanctions.. now you want them implemented (^_^)
We sanctioned exports of products A, B, C... How hard is to follow up on those export numbers? In our days it looks almost criminal to overlook such activities 😕
Edit: Or else, you sanction only products you can verify and control.
your asking too much from politicians, they already announced sanctions.. now you want them implemented (^_^)
AM I THE ONLY ONE who thought it was SETH ROGAN reporting the NEWS?! XD
Names of the companies please ffs ,, we aint playing around .. they can be heavily penalized for aiding war criminals. specially the Dutch company.
Someone explain why there people that manage this companies are not arrested!! and condemned exemplarily !!!!
Who knew Seth Rogen was such a good investigative journalist?
If DJI can prevent me from flying by an airport, why can't they prevent drones from flying in Ukraine?
Ukraine will have its own drones. Surely, airports employ systems than are non-specific in downing all drones in the vicinity of said airport. It's also likely a problem logistically (to cover the whole of a vast nation) in such a way. Then, there is the fact they'd have to ensure Ukrainian drones were immune to such counter-measures (if Ukraine is to be allowed to continue to benefit from drone technology), in which case the question is begged, is it possible to do that en masse?
They did. But the Russians and Ukrainians were cancelling each other out. Then someone came out with dji hack to remove that function. It's illegal to know that hack btw.
your asking too much from politicians, they already announced sanctions.. now you want them implemented (^_^)
Both Ukraine and Russia have enough hackers tech to remove this kind of function.
Now that this story has exposed this company,,, why can’t the company be stopped ???
I have no difficulty imagining how consumer products like DJI drones find their way into Russia or Ukraine or into any other country .
not just Kazakstan but INDIA is the MOST volumes of trade bypass.
So they technically did not breach any sanction 🤷
The people behind this should go in jail for accomplice of murder.
They should go on peace negotiation and get all business back on tracks .
Sanction all the Pootin supporters!
@@davidnoelfranks1124 Give Douglas MacGregor a pacifier
@@davidnoelfranks1124 lol
An exceptionally news-worthy report. Thank you.
Germany is going through recession. I hope someday dw will find few seconds time to discuss issues at home. 24×7 constant russia bashing is beginning to look a bit boring.
Sanctions aren't laws, it's like criticizing someone for disobeying Jabba the Hut.
Fine the companies, arrest the directors and owners who knew and were actively involved
nah ! thats like mechanically killing the flies :)
These companies should be dismantled assets seized owners punished. Broadcast all of their names so no one does business with them
Doesn't the presenter have a language youtube channel? I swear I've seen him before, but I don't recall the name of the channel.
Rob's words or similar name
Stop interrupting the person you are interviewing, unprofessional af
Why was the most important question not asked in this interview. You found these specific individuals and their companies, are the Dutch and German governments and their partners taking steps to sanction these individuals and shut down their companies? If nothing else, they can at least shut down these individual sources surely, possibly arrest the owners?
Smuggling thru blockades and seiges is a tale as old as time.
Not a very sustainable business model. Their profits will be short lived.
So now that we know that, why aren't people being arrested?
so many experts here 😂😂😂
They have to sell their products to keep their employees employed. They are not part of the conflict.
it would be possible to block the sale of microchips and components to Russia if there was a will, but it would require a trade embargo similar to what the United States implemented in relation to Cuba, i.e. a total trade embargo where no product goes to Russia and nothing leaves it, and if any 3 countries, ect... Kazakhstan, do not follow this it will also be on the sanctions list.
It's kind of unbelievable that the West and the EU are so naive that they haven't figured out how to block this.
Yeah, good luck putting sanctions on China. 😊
the west does not want to cut russia off completely ,didn't knw you'd be so dumb as to not realize it
You do understand that embargo needs enforcement how exactly do you plan on stopping say a chinese ship goin in to russian waters you do understand that siezing a ship might work once next time they might decide to send a military escort the only reason us was able to do cuba is coz cuba is not a military force china and russia are very different things
The US can enforce a trade embargo on Cuba. They can encircle it with ships etc. and cut it out from the rest of the world.
Russia has the longest land border in the world try to enforce any restriction on that one... It will be insanely expensive and ineffective just look at the US-Mexico border... Plus if there is a lot of money involved (which is) corruption will find a way...
Sanctions in reality are a paper that will restrict less profitable/highly competitive business. The arms business is simply too lucrative for them to have noticeable short-term effects.
Look at Iran one of the most sanctioned countries in the world and they have a more potent conventional army than the whole of Western Europe combined...
@@kristianhristov7193 In fact, the Cuban embargo went like this, and it is still in effect, that if I sell something from the EU to Cuba, the United States will impose sanctions on me or my company. Chinese merchant ships do not need to be physically stopped, it can be done so that if a violation is found, the EU can say that we will pull the factories out of China, and we will no longer order goods from there. simple no need for wars.
Nice to hear it
I was going to make a joke about a nation crowdfunding its own military, but I guess war bonds really aren't anything new. 🤔 🤔 🤔
This is fantastic journalism from Seth Rogan.
Heineken is making a lot of money in Russia still
Terrible brand, probably why there's a terrible taste 😅
Life without hate and war . How would that be ?
It is immoral to help Russia in any way
Hello Rob!!! Good on ya!
... I hope it's not too late ..
The sanctions have side effects on ordinary citizens for both sides .
Reminds me of Willborough Ross who despite US sanctions, his companies continued to deal with russia while he was in the Trump administration as Secretary of the Department of Commerce ... how fitting.
The Russian couple who are circumventing scantions... Are they going to jail for a long time?
and what charge it would be? trading with kazakh company is something unlawful?
Well war is a racket after all, as US Major General Smedley Butler famously wrote 100 years ago. Looks like the players have changed but the game still remains the same. This war with Russia has been a real boom for the ususal few
what is so strange, Russian gas and oil are still imported by Germany, via India, Saudi Arabic. the trade never stops.
The host needs to stop interrupting when the guest is answering the questions he just asked
Economic sanctions should be voluntary. Companies should not involve in politics.
so lets live like ANIMALS then
@@kukulroukul4698 not everyone or entity is a political animal.
I went to Aliexpress and bought myself two drones to Moscow and without any Kazakhstan, I don't understand what nonsense they are talking here
Nothing surprising! This is a same kind of how Germany buy diesel from indian companies.
Insanity.
EU is just being sour, because their sanctions are failing. 😅
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That's how Europeans betray them selves.
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Looking for who to blame for the failed counter offensive.
First deal with your recession,If sanctions are not UN backed then you can continue making noises
If your hardware is reaching to your enemy, don't you think that it's your fault that you go and sell your products all over the world and strive for more money?
This is less a story about leveraging secondary sanctions against countries like Kazakhstan, and more a story about EU States cracking down on sanction busters within their own boarders
Germany fighting Germany , EU fighting EU wtf :D