Yes! I never forget going round to my friend's house when I was 13 years old and he was watching an American Football match and said we would go out or whatever after it finished. The clock said 13 minutes to go so I thought "fair enough"..... 50 MINUTES later I was still willing the final seconds away 😂😂
If you take the 30 seconds out of getting the play ready, the ACTUAL time played is around 15 minutes. That's BS. I saw my only live NFL game many years ago. The game suddenly stopped a couple of times, what seemed no apparent reason. The reason was, a commercial timeout. WHAT!!!
21:24 The "helmet" that some players wear is called a scrum cap, its generally worn by the "forwards" (the players who participate in the scrum) to prevent damage to their ears. Forwards who don't wear one usually develop "cauliflower ears" from repeated damage.
The scrum cap is very similar to the cap worn by the teams who play water-polo except that the waterpolo cap has more substantial straps and rigid plastic ear-covers as opposed to the fabric ear flaps worn by the rugby players. Some rugby players especially those who have a history of head injuries have been known to wear a cap comprising a number of pieces of foam rubber joined together to surround the skull with a chin strap similar to early cycling helmets, which were virtually identical. It is also common for rugby players to wear a crepe type bandage around their head in the style of a sweatband. Normally the only players to wear headbands or caps are the 3 players known as the front row who are usually two of the larger players who are called the left and right prop forwards and and a slightly less well built third player who is called the Hooker. He hangs on the shoulders of his props and engages his head in the gap between his opponents head and his prop like interlacing your fingers. The props are thus lifted off the ground by their props so they can use both of their feet to try to push the ball backwards to the rest of his teammates who are mostly pushing the front row forward against the opposing team as they are doing the same. One player from each team stand to one side of the scrum who are known as the scrum halves and one of them is given the ball to feed into the scrum from the side. As the ball is fed into the scrum the halves try to move to the back of the scrum in order to grab the ball as it gets pushed out. The scrum half who manages to get the ball can then either pass the ball backwards to another player to start to run towards the touchdown line or sometimes the scrum half in possession of the ball can turn and attempt to run with the ball to score a touchdown himself.
The scrum cap is very similar to the cap worn by the teams who play water-polo except that the waterpolo cap has more substantial straps and rigid plastic ear-covers as opposed to the fabric ear flaps worn by the rugby players. Some rugby players especially those who have a history of head injuries have been known to wear a cap comprising a number of pieces of foam rubber joined together to surround the skull with a chin strap similar to early cycling helmets, which were virtually identical. It is also common for rugby players to wear a crepe type bandage around their head in the style of a sweatband. Normally the only players to wear headbands or caps are the 3 players known as the front row who are usually two of the larger players who are called the left and right prop forwards and and a slightly less well built third player who is called the Hooker. He hangs on the shoulders of his props and engages his head in the gap between his opponents head and his prop like interlacing your fingers. The props are thus lifted off the ground by their props so they can use both of their feet to try to push the ball backwards to the rest of his teammates who are mostly pushing the front row forward against the opposing team as they are doing the same. One player from each team stand to one side of the scrum who are known as the scrum halves and one of them is given the ball to feed into the scrum from the side. As the ball is fed into the scrum the halves try to move to the back of the scrum in order to grab the ball as it gets pushed out. The scrum half who manages to get the ball can then either pass the ball backwards to another player to start to run towards the touchdown line or sometimes the scrum half in possession of the ball can turn and attempt to run with the ball to score a touchdown himself.
@@billyhills9933 Another trick was for a prop to use his inner hand to grab the opposing hooker's testicles and squeeze them hard to divert his attention away from the ball in play.
The ‘scrum-cap’ (your ‘helmet’) is a relatively thin, soft head-covering designed merely to lessen risk of physical head damage, mainly such as the unpleasant possibility of the ears being ripped off in the scrum. They’re not compulsory.
As an aged rugby union player, who has represented country at a young age, my career was short lived and left me with a limp. No pads or helmets, just muscle anf flesh to muscle and flesh! Cannot wait for the 6 Nations... Feels so long between 6 Nations! You guys should watch it!
You may be interested in the Six Nations that starts in Feb. It is Rugby Union and teams from: England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, France & Italy compete.
Rugby league is MUCH faster paced, as even though in the video it said there is a slight stoppage, their really isnt. In Union, after someone is tackled and they present the ball, in order to stop the other team from getting over the downed person first, a ruck is formed where two teams push against one another, to either get the ball or stop the team from getting the ball (if that makes sense). This time adds up and does actually give the players a slight break, whereas in League, there is no small break, and it is sprinting continuously, especially as you have to get back 10 meters to not be offside and give away a penalty or reset the tackle count. Hope this helps.
When I served in the Army I was once stationed in SHAPE which was a multi-national base.. Our UK element played football and Rugby, the American element on the base made up a Rugby (Union) team and the US really got addicted to it, They played really often and enjoyed nothing more than a ruck with the UK team. Great spectator event for the US families, they loved it. So much so, during my time there, American Football wasn't played by the US forces.
Rugby Union can often be continual repetitive kicks for territory, stalled stumbling phase after phase that make no progress, mistakes with the offload or scrum penalties. Some games contain as much action as watching a pensioner walk to a bus stop.
Glad you're reviewing rugby. I've been a fan of Rugby Union for over 50 years, a great game Both codes of rugby play games of 80 mins. two halves of 40 minutes each
You guys crack me up in a good way, you tried the game of snooker rules, and are now trying to make sense of rugby union/league well done, American football has me scratching my head !
Great to see the St Helens women’s team featured. If you want to watch a proper demonstration of Rugby League, watch any game between St Helens and our arch rivals Wigan.
The most thrilling game of rugby I have ever watched was the 2003 Rugby Union World Cup final when England and Australia went toe-to-toe. With one try and four penalties scored by each team it all came down to the last 20 seconds of the game. A real edge-of-the-seat game
Check out the Atherstone Ball Game.The Atherstone Ball Game is a "medieval football" game played annually on Shrove Tuesday in the English town of Atherstone, Warwickshire. The game honours a match played between Leicestershire and Warwickshire in 1199, when teams competed for a bag of gold, and which was won by Warwickshire. Rugby School is a public school in Rugby, Warwickshire, England. Founded in 1567
My 2 daughters used to have season tickets to go watch Leeds Rhinos (league). Standing sometimes in the freezing cold to watch a game. The thing i liked was the fans from both sides used to mingle after the game & never saw any trouble, unlike football 😊
I remember playing rugby at school in Scotland in the 1970s, and having to spend a Saturday afternoon - after a game - helping my friend find and pick up his missing teeth! :) ... I'm 62 now, and still limp when the weather is cold and wet because of knee injuries I got playing. :)
In my school, rugby season seemed to start when the ground was frozen solid and as hard as rock. We would get cut up by the frozen grass. The general practice was trying to drop kick the ball against your opponents half frozen thighs.
When I played school rugby on a few occasions I nearly had an eye torn out by the studs of a player I was trying to tackle. I finally stopped playing colts rugby after breaking my left collarbone which caused me to miss a county trial.
Aw, you’re such a lovely couple and I’ve been following you for months. I’ve watched many “American Reacts” vids but I love you the best because you come across as genuine in showing real interest in my beautiful country and our culture. God bless and love to the three of you.
You seemed a bit confused by Rugby School. Rugby is a town in Warwickshire (about 8 miles from me) and had (and still has) a school...Rugby school. It was there that William Webb Ellis first picked up and ran with the ball, thus 'inventing' the game. The game is named after Rugby school. You might also like to know that originally a 'try' did not score points. It was called that, because it gave the team a 'try' at kicking a goal to score points (what is now the conversion after a try).
Football involved carrying the ball long before Rugby's rules of football were drawn up. It was a step back in time from association football to a more traditional form.
We still have the old fashioned ball game in Atherstone no rules except no killing anyone Usually the last 20mins end up in good old brawl great fun to watch. Igo every year as just 10mins down the road from me.
@@DeepThought9999 There are 3 rules: 1) the game cannot leave Atherstone high street. 2) No one can deliberately kill another player. 3) Whoever has the ball at the end of 2 hours, wins. There are rituals about how it starts (i.e. it's dropped from the balcony of the old Barclays building on Atherstone high street at 2pm on Shrove Tuesday). That's it. Those are the rules. Anything goes - it's officially the world's most violent sport. Oh, and the prize? You will win.... the ball.
Ashbourne has the no killing rule as well, either deliberately (the matches would be a great cover for murderous villainy), or accidentally. The running time is different though, as is the "pitch size". There are two teams, one from either side of Henmore Brook, the goals are 3 miles apart, kick off is at 2pm and they're not keen on the match finishing before 6pm. If the match finishes before 6, they would throw another ball and start again (they used to, but I don't know if that's still a thing). Official cut off is 10pm.
Just for interest - Princess Anne's daughter Zara is Married to Mike Tindall. He played Rugby Union for England between 2000 - 2011. The Royals as a whole - but especially Princess Anne, are very keen/passionate Rugby fans. Prince William is Patron of The Welsh Rugby Union in his role of Prince of Wales, Princess Catherine is patron of the English Rugby Union & I believe the Northern Ireland Rugby Union - (very amusing to see clips of them watching Wales & England play), Princess Anne is still - I believe - patron of the Scottish Rugby Union. I don't tend to watch much team sport on TV - just not my thing. But I will make an effort to watch The Six Nations or Rugby World Cup. You may be interested by the New Zealand Rugby Union national team. They are known as the 'All Blacks' and before each game (well every game I've seen them play), they perform a traditional Màori Haka. (I'll leave you to google that).
There is also footage of our Princess of Wales visiting a coaching session (England I think) and was "lifted" in the air as per the shots shown earlier in this video.
Now you see why people laugh at all the padding American Footballers wear! Such dainty little souls. 😀 After Rugby take a look at Australian Rules Football. It's kind of a mix.
In fact, the armour is dangerous in long-term play. It encourages harder tackling which generates more energy which, one way or another, makes its way up and down the spinal column and causes more sever whiplash effects leading to brain injuries which can last a lifetime. That's why there's moves to actually ban it in rugby, as some players have been experimenting with light armour under their jerseys.
So American football is played with hands, and touchdowns don't require touchdown... Makes sense. What about renaming it "play 20% of the time tight pants padded rugby with no brain for the players and coaches instructing them everything all the time"?
But yet longer term brain injuries are becoming more recognised in Rugby players. Repetitive concussions etc.... maybe the helmets are not such a stupid idea, and then once you have helmets crashing into players bodies then maybe the padding might start to make sense.... I probably wouldn't like to see it myself I'm just saying we shouldn't perhaps laugh at it as much as we have in the past.
If you look at some older rugby union players they have "cauliflower" ears a bit like some boxers. This is caused in the scrum mainly and the forwards. The cap is just a thin padded protective garment tp protect your ears and head and possibly hair. It is not a hard helmet. You can imagine in the scrum with headlocks it wouldn't take much for ears to be "rolled" . Note you showed some womens games there and even they don't wear the skull cap much. Also apart from a padded sports bra they play pretty much the same as male players. There are also gum shields and shoulder pads but not many wear these. Basically in rugby no hard protection is used so it can't be used as a "weapon" it's all more about protection.
One of the major points not mentioned in this video....in rugby you're only allowed to tackle the person with the ball! And there are loads of rules around what is a legal tackle. This is why it's possible to play without padding and not get (too) injured.
I don't know if you noticed but the extra kicking conversion point after a try is scored has to be taken directly in line from where the ball was touched down as opposed to directly from the middle as per NFL
When I first went to college in 1988 I lived with 5 American rugby players from Wisconsin, they'd come to study in Wales for a year because rugby union is such a popular sport in Wales and they all trained and played with the college rugby team while they were here, they play rugby in Canada so I guess that rugby is probably more known in the northern states bordering Canada than the southern states. I grew up playing rugby, in Wales at the time it was the number one sport played so pretty much all kids played it, you don't think of it as brutal or dangerous when you're playing it though, it's just a lot of fun.
Congratulations on being the proud Uncle of an active young teen, with the skills and devotion to a sport he obviously must love. My (since Oct. 2015, late) Mum enjoyed watching Rugby - I don't know which code - in her youth...in between horseriding* and hockey, and lacrosse... I never inherited her love of those more physically-active sports, _Except_ _equestrianism_ ! 🐎♥️🐎🤭 (*which is _my preferred_ - sorry - sport)
For a first encounter, you guys did a good job of keeping up. I agree that Rugby Union sounds more like your thing. It can be both fast and furious, especially at international level.
Scrum cap not a skull cap. most front line player that are in the scrum dont wear it they prefer bandage and tape. the wings wear them to be more arrow dynamic🤣🤣🤣
In (Union) scrums there's one position at the front in the middle called the Hooker - their job was traditionally to kick the ball backwards to their team inside the scrum while the rest of them try to push forwards. These days the ball isn't really contested as much as it's too difficult so the Hooker pushes as well, the aim being to drive the other team backwards and gain a lot of ground. If the other team breaks out of the scrum or falls over, you win a free kick or a penalty depending on the situation, you can also drive them right over the try line and just touch the ball down in the scrum. It's a powerful tool that sometimes works really well and sometimes is such a dead heat they don't go anywhere and just fall over all the time.
Another big difference between American football and Rugby is that we dont have seperate Offence and Defence players who as i understand can be changed regularly for AF. There are two distinct groups of players on a rugby team though, the Forwards (who wear shirt numbers 1 to 8) are in general the big, hard chaps/chapettes who might not move fast but are pretty hard to stop moving. They are the ones you see in a scrum and lineout, and in general play their main roll is to protect the ball if one of their teammates is tackled by the opposition. Typically its the forwards who will try to protect the ball so their team retains possession and can then attack again. The second group is called the Backs. They are generally physically smaller, have crap haircuts, cant hold their beer, rely on the forwards for protection and take credit for everything. Their main job is to attempt to move the ball forward up the pitch and eventually score a try. They tend to be the guys you see running forward with the ball, then passing on to another back just as they are tackled and so on until they make it over the line. There really is something for everyone in the game as a whole. As an ex forward i love seeing a match between teams with good forwards as i love the technical aspect of 16 blokes averaging 16 stone each trying to push each other out the way! But seeing a well disciplined back line taking apart an oppositions defence at speed really is a thing of true beauty! And the singing! You really need to hear the Jocks belting out Flower of Scotland, or england fans singing Swing Low during a Calcutta Cup game! Never mind your football chants, theres real goosepimples there!
I'm from rugby town, rugby school is a public school costs a lot of money to attend there. The whole town is about 450 years old and has a lot of history like the the jet engine and famous world war one poet Rupert Brook
I used to do some work at the school, it's around £50k a year to send a kid there, but it is amazing, and the corridors do feel exactly like hogwarts. Yes, I got to throw a ball on the field there.
Rugby was an iron age settlement that became a Roman town. It was then taken over by the Anglo Saxons and is mentioned in the Doomsday Book. You need to add at least 1500 years to your 450 years! Even Rugby School is slightly older than that, having been established in 1567.
'Scuse me butting in, but perhaps that wasn't quite as clear as it might have been? For the reactors' benefit: Rugby is a town in the middle of England, the fee--paying school there was named after the town, and the version of football was named after the school. Several private schools played versions of the sport according to their own rules at one time, and the version played at this school became the dominant one described as "Union" by the video in the 1840s, with "League" starting in the 1890s. 🏉
Steve is sooooo going to get into rugby.. I’m from England and a football (soccer) nut and don’t watch rugby, but I can see how an American who likes American football would love rugby cos it’s so much more raw and pure
Lindsey . You have time to watch lots of Rugby between now and February . That's is when the six nations happens . This is a series of games were England Wales Scotland Ireland France and Italy play against one another . The England ball is merch from these games . If you can watch the matches get very involved in picking a side and then making it a fun way of learning . It's how children Sofias age learn the basics of supporting a team . It's then fun when Sofias team goes against Daddys or Mummy's. Good for explaining maths and sportsmanship . 7 aside is even faster and good fun . It started in the area of Scotland not far from where I live . I grew up watching Rugby league but see more Union now I live in Scotland .
'The Rugby School' was a public school [ fee paying, equivalent to a Private School in the US ] near the town of Rugby, a few miles east of the city of Coventry.
In the early days of football (soccer) there were no forward passes, as in the modern game of rugby football. A pupil at Rugby school, William Webb Ellis, read the rules of the game and realised there was no rule to prevent him from picking up the ball and running with it, thereby creating rugby football. The shape of the ball was changed to make it easier to throw and catch.
Rugby League is actually a faster paced and more attacking game than rugby union, as there are fewer players on the pitch. Rugby union is slower and more physical game due to the extra players and smaller space on the pitch.
The three pretty much sit on a spectrum of continuous intensity vs plenty of downtime to strategise/employ specialists. League maxes out on continuous intensity, American Football maxes out on specialisation and downtime; Union fits in the middle, though probably has the least per-play dynamism in return for more set pieces.
@@davidpreston9909That’s an advantage for the tall players (not me)! For the tall sportspeople, it’s mainly just basketball, Rugby Union or AFL (here in Oz). One of the beauties of Rugby Union is the game’s suitability for a wide variety of player shapes and sizes. Not so much in other sports. So if you are small and light but agile and speedy like I used to be or short, fat but strong or mid-sized, speedy and strong or beanstalk tall and strong, there is a suitable position on the field for you. You just need to be able to develop all the ball and tackling skills, skills I was mostly poor at as a child unfortunately, so despite my enthusiasm, my playing career was very limited. Instead I have followed closely my local Rugby Union teams for most of my 70 years.
@DeepThought9999 good points - I played prop as I was large for my age and have never been skinny, my best mate played scrum half (or occasionally hooker) as he was stocky but much shorter than me
The hats that some wear are caps that protect ears in the scrum. Cauliflower ear is common for the front row of the scrum. Just google cauliflower ear pics and you will see why some player wears the cap
And just to add, for the benefit of the channel creators, the world cup that is held every 4 years, the trophy is the Webb Ellis trophy, named after him
Hi Steve and Lindsay . My home town of Huddersfield is where the meeting was held, at the George Hotel, where the game of Rugby was split into the two codes. In my youth I played Rugby League and watched my local team, Fartown (so called because it was the far town from Huddersfield. It really is now only a suburb of Huddersfield). This Fartown team is now known as the Huddersfield Giants. My great uncle was one of the first players to be paid for playing Rugby League for Fartown. My son also played Rugby League and is now a trainer for his local junior teams where his two sons aged six and eight are learning to play.
The 40-20 rule is a significant difference too. Where the ball is kicked from behind the kickers own 40m line and goes out within the defensive teams 20m line and the goal line. The ball has to bounce out over the side line to regain possession. Another significant difference is when the game in RL is drawn at the end of the game, they then compete to get the golden point to win. In Hull we have 2 teams and the competition rivalry the 2 and the fans is fierce. First we have Hull FC based in West Hull at the MKM Stadium. Then you also have Hull Kingston Rovers (or Hull KR) based in East Hull at the Craven Park stadium. The MKM Stadium was called the KCom Stadium but is also known as the Hull City Stadium due to sponsorship regulations. This ground is also the home ground of the football team called Hull City and generally they get bigger crowds than either of the 2 RL teams.
There is a similar rule now in Union the 50 /22 kick except the kicking team gets athrow in the lineout rather than a scrum feed but the principle is the same.
Watching Rugby is exciting, I was nursing up the valleys in the 70’s and was lucky enough to work in the same hospital as some of the rugby players from what was a brilliant Welsh team. JPR Williams . It was like a religion , Cardiff Arms Park I watch France v Wales match.
My son plays both codes of rugby. He's only 24 and after 4 concussions, 3 shoulder surgeries to have a metal plate both inserted and removed, he still wouldn't miss a Saturday afternoon game for the world. Rugby players are a different breed.
So, the great thing about watching a Rugby match, is that you can hear the Referee throughout the entire match, which helps a lot in understanding what is going on. There's a brilliant, now retired, Ref called Nigel Owens who has a few compilations on TH-cam as he was always witty and funny. Starting in November, there is what is called the 'Autumn Internationals' happening, the Southern teams (NZ, Aus, Arg, SA etc) come and tour the Northern teams. I believe the US are playing some games in November too, this is Rugby Union. Then in Feb/March next year the Six Nations will take place, an annual tournament between Eng, Sco, Wal, Ire, Fra & Ita, it's a mini league where everyone plays everyone for points, most points wins (there are also some other things going on too like the match between Eng & Sco is called the 'Calcutta Cup'). Also, 'The Rugby School' relates to the School in the town of Rugby :) The 'Helmets' some players wear is called a Scrum Cap, it reduces the knock from accidental head contact and some players just opt to wear it. Also also, I've been watching Union for 10 years and still pick up new things every now and then that i've missed.
When my old headmaster mentioned 'football' he meant Rugby Football, he called soccer 'Association Football' (where the term soccer comes from) much to our derision as kids.
IMHO, the key to understanding Rugby Union is to learn about the "Breakdown", "Rucks" and "Mauls" and therefore it's worth watching a video explaining these in more detail. So much of the game's open play will be influenced by what happens during these phases of play - i.e. a lot of penalties are given away during these phases by players being offside, "entering the ruck from the side" or "putting their hands in the ruck", etc. Scrummages or "Scrums" are also a key event (known as a 'Set piece') in the game as there are a lot of rules governing how it's played and again can result in lots of penalties.
I'm a 4th generation Rugby Union player, played Fly Half. I'm 46 now, but I still fancy trying again. I'd probably get snapped in half though. ✌️💙🏴🇬🇧
Hi there... I'm older and have health problems BUT we have what is called 'walking rugby' here which allows older players to still enjoy the game without it being too physically taxing.
I played rugby once. Only once! I used to work in an office where a few of the lads played at the weekend. They'd come in on Monday with assorted bits missing! My nephew is a fly half too.
@@alfiekelly5914 I've still got a small piece missing off the top of left ear, from a rugby match when I was a teenager (30 years ago). Funny how tRump's grew back so quickly... 🤔
@@simonmetcalfe5926 Ha Ha. I thought that I was the only one that thought the same thing! Mind you, I wish I'd been a teenager 30 years ago. I even struggle with golf now. Mostly a non contact sport! I've had a few boxing matches on courses though. I once lost an 8 iron by hurling it towards an eejit. It flew over the trainline.
😊😊In New Zealand there was a rugby team training for a match.The coach asked a team of ballet dancers to compare their training.The ruby players couldn't keep up with the ballet performers..the coaches increased the training and the rugby players improved alot.
In Australia, rugby league is also called the running game as its more about the running and not so much about moving through the phases. Think of union as an arm wrestle of a game, while league is quick and fast running. Dont think the stoppages for playjng the ball as stop start, as they need to play the ball quickly and not delay the play of the ball.
In rugby league there is no massive stop between tackles. It's 5 to 10 secs depending on how far into the match you are. It's tiring! Much much much faster than american football.
It's called a try because, back in the day, you were not awarded any points for touching the ball down in goal. All you got was a free kick at goal. You were allowed to TRY to score uncontested.
I'm from a rugby union family. My grandpa, my father, each of my five sons, and all of my grandsons played or still play. The reason rugby has no American style pads and helmets is chiefly because tackles above the line of the shoulders are illegal. In junior school rugby (under 13s), tackles are forbidden below the chest line. It is illegal to tackle anyone not in possession of the ball.
You said in reference to junior Rugby “tackles are forbidden below the chest line”. Shouldn’t that be “forbidden above the chest line”? New laws coming into force in International Rugby Board matches the next (Southern Hemisphere) season I believe will require tackles to be made between the chest and knees only. Not sure about this however.
Regarding rugby league, the commentator says "they wanted to get paid". Not quite. They wanted to be paid their expenses in traveling down to the south of the country on the train to play southern clubs. In the north, players were generally working class men who worked in factories or down the mines, and were poorly paid, so train fares were a significant expense for them. Whereas in the south, players were more likely to be middle class who could more easily afford such fares when traveling north. The board of the rugby union was exclusively middle class southerners (at a time of extreme snobbishness about 'class') who had little sympathy for the working class players from the north, and in fact thought the game would be better if it was only played by 'gentlemen', so they refused to allow northern clubs to reimburse players expenses. Hence the formation of the rugby league and the evolution of the different code.
Us Northerners love having "union" representation when we work ;) ..then Churchill sends gunboats up the Mersey River (in 1911) to stop us Scousers from striking :D
Originaly with a line out when the ball was thrown the players from both teams could only jump for the ball. If lifted and the ref seen it a foul was called. But it kept happening that much and the play being stopped they changed the rules to allow it for continueous play
A side note: they are allowed to lit the player up but not hold him/her up; the have to come down by ther own momentum and gravity. The attacking team decides how many players can be involved in the line-out. And the throw in - if contested, must be straight to allow the defendig team a fai contest.
The greatest quote about rugby is that it is war played by gentlemen. One of the great things in rugby is the reverence that the players have for the referee. For example:- 2 prop forwards both 6 feet tall and 250 pounds 24:49 ( front row in the scrum) are fighting and the referee blows his whistle stopping play . The referee steps in between them and tells both players off to which the players apologise and shake hands.
Watching this has just recalled a memory that I was pretty good at throwing lineouts at school. I actually had no idea of the difference in rules, so this was also a learning experience for me.
Rugby League is alot easier to understand I live in the north of England on the boarder to Yorkshire and League dominates here ad kids we used to play a game called British bulldog very similar but can only tackle by Touch the opponent rather than tackle but it prepared us for rugby football league 👍 I also enjoy union
Now take a look at Wheelchair Rugby League. It's the same rules, pass backwards while moving forwards, kick (with closed fist), and uses an oval ball, a bit smaller than the one you showed in this video. Not to be confused with the Paralympic sport of Murder Ball, which is called Wheelchair rugby but uses a round ball and is almost nothing like the running version of rugby.
The video you watched didn't include a "maul" which can also occur after a tackle. Sometimes the tackled player is prevented from falling to the ground by the tackler and so the tackled player does not need to release the ball. Then players from both sides can join the "maul" and attempt to gain possession of the ball by well wrestling the ball away from the player in possession. It doesn't happen as often as a ruck but it does happen.
The South African team, the Springboks, have perfected the maul as much as it can be perfected. Watch the 2023 Rugby World Cup semi-final and final or the most recent 2024 Rugby Championship and you will see what I mean.
I was an avid player of Rugby in my teens and university years. Spent around 3 years playing as a loose head prop / forward. I had one of those head caps pretty much every game I played. There's a condition called Cauliflower Ear which is very common for Props who don't wear them.
18:37 Rugby is a town in the Midlands, near Birmingham, Leicester, and Northampton. Rugby School is a prestigious public (private, for US folk) school in the town.
A rugby match is about 80 minutes, 40 minutes each half with a 15 minute half time... usually with very little downtime. Each half also does not end until one of the teams removes the ball from play, generally by kicking it to touch
A typical game, if you sit down to watch live, is over in under 2 hours. Your timings are right, but there are some stoppages for subs, TMO reviews, sometimes water breaks and the like. Also injuries in at least some matches. That usually adds about 10 minutes to the time.
One thing that is pretty common to both versions (maybe less so in the now professional era) is after the game they both go to the bar and have a drinking contest between themselves. If you haven't already, Aussie Rules Football is worth checking out, a very different game but the 'tackles' are just as mad and violent
It can hardly be called a helmet. It is just a cloth cap, and the 'forwards' in the scrum usually just wear a headband that covers the top part of their ears. These days the scrum cap is mostly used by the flanks or 'wings' because they are the ones who usually take a flying dive into the tryline area and could knock their heads on the ground.
One major difference between Rugby (both variations) and American Football is that there is no constantly changing the teams on the field between "offence" and "defence". Rugby players that start the game are normally expected to play right through the entire game, although some substitutions are allowed, usually to replace injured players. This has the effect of requiring different levels of fitness from the players. In American Football, since the game constantly stops after each play and because whole team changes occur when going from offence to defence, the players can rely more on sheer strength rather than endurance since they will always be getting "refresher" breaks during play. In Rugby the endurance aspect of fitness is more important because you don't get many breaks in play and the game continues unabated. There is also a difference in "technical" training. Since the whole team changes in American Football when a team goes from offence to defence, and sometimes just between plays several players may change, each individual player can base his entire training regimen on developing one particular skill. In rugby every player basically has to train to do almost every job on the field. There are, of course, specialisations amongst the players (ie. the kickers) but to a much lesser extent than in American Football. These different requirements mean that these games really are massively different games, and even require very different types of players!
Did the video miss out that rugby doesn't change all the players on the field every few minutes, whereas American football has its distinct defensive and offensive 'teams'?
Hi you two. My son's school rugby team did a two week tour playing teams in Canada and USA. They left the day after their senior prom. Flew to Toronto, played a couple of matches there. Then went by bus via Niagara to Buffalo where they played two more games. They then travelled on to Florida, near Sea World for their last two matches. They were very fortunate to have an excellent sports teacher who arranged the whole trip. The school had done the tour for a number of years. Unfortunately they don't do it now, as that teacher has retired.
Rugby was invented by an Englishman named William Webb Ellis 1823 . It is played at club and international level. It is a strictly controlled sport despite its full contact nature.
It's funny seeing your reactions to the clips because it's all technique and very specific thing that we do when playing rugby to keep ot relatively safe. All we need is a gum shield and we are good. (Thougj those "hats" you were talking about are an optional thing, it's padded and called a scrumcap it's ear/head protection for players in the scrum (though not every player in the scrum chooses to wear one)
My son played for our town with several mates including two brothers one of those brothers turned pro. My son had to be convinced to stop because of his mouth he is a professional classical musician that plays brass as his first. It's a tough game played by blokes that are not afraid to get knocked about unlike our American brothers whom play a girls game.
I am currently watching your video while also watching Ireland v New Zealand live on the other screen. You need to watch a full game. Its brilliant to watch normally, particularly the international matches which are considered by most fans to be far more important even than their own club matches and attract huge crowds and media interest.
To clarify: in Rugby Union, it is **only** considered to be a forward pass (or knock-on) if the ball not only travels in a forward direction in flight but also if the ball had been released or knocked in a forward direction out of the passing player’s hands at the moment of that release. So the passing player’s momentum and method of ball release both need to be taken into consideration in assessing whether or not the pass is “forward”. The passing player’s forward momentum can cause the ball travel forward from the release point even if the ball was passed in a flat or slightly rearwards motion out of the passing player’s hand(s), particularly if that passing player is running forward at speed. Simple physics means that the passing player’s momentum is maintained by the ball on its release, thus adding a component to the ball’s trajectory in whichever direction the passing player was moving. This trajectory component is “forward” for the ball if the passing player was moving forward at the moment of release. If the passing player was tackled backwards as the ball was released, the ball would have a rearwards component to its trajectory. So this type of pass where the passing player releases the ball with a clear rearward or lateral motion out of the hands, even if the passing player’s momentum causes the ball to travel forward from its point of release, is not considered by (good) referees to be a forward pass. Referees do sometimes make mistakes, however.
I live in the UK and the re-enactment society where I live found the rules for the nearest version of football from the Middle Ages. There was one (1) rule; it was, 'No bladed weapons unless by prior arrangement'. (!)
In a rugby union scrum both sets of “forwards” bend down and push against the opposing side the ball is thrown into the space between the two scrums and then the team try to gain possession by pushing against the other side and hooking it back. Once the ball comes free it is grabbed and we are off again.
Rugby, when viewed by americans always seem to be facinated by the fact that there is no helmets or padding. The truth is that there are very strict rules around HOW you tackle a player in Rugby... It is the tackler's responsibility to safely tackle the player and ensure they are put to ground safely, cannot tackle above chest height, must wrap their arms around the the tackle, etc. With american football, they use their bodies as weapons to launch themselves into players to tackle, such as spear tackles and usinging their head, most likely BECAUSE of the pads and helmets.
I can’t believe you two haven’t done your homework on these two codes before this video! Your understanding is better than some people who purport to support the games!
American football is way too long. 3 hour game of any sport is ridiculous. Rugby league is 80 minutes with a 10 minute half time after 40 minutes. Plus it's only 13 players. NFL is 30+ players or something.
Rugby deserves to be called a football code because kicking is hugely important and its more than kicking,feet in the ruck and heeling the ball in the scrum with the feet.Its the only real way to advance the ball other than running with ball in hand which is very had to do without a platform created by kicking for territory.
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USA turned a fast paced action filled brutal game into an advertising opportunity,
Yes! I never forget going round to my friend's house when I was 13 years old and he was watching an American Football match and said we would go out or whatever after it finished. The clock said 13 minutes to go so I thought "fair enough"..... 50 MINUTES later I was still willing the final seconds away 😂😂
Hit the nail on the head
More like a girls game American football🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you take the 30 seconds out of getting the play ready, the ACTUAL time played is around 15 minutes. That's BS. I saw my only live NFL game many years ago. The game suddenly stopped a couple of times, what seemed no apparent reason. The reason was, a commercial timeout. WHAT!!!
Scrum hat protect the ears
Rugby is a town in England.
The rules played by it's school became the foundation for the modern game, hence 'Rugby Football'
People dont realize that the rules of rugby and soccer were established on the same day
But where is the town of Association
@WreckItRolfe fell into sea in the early 1900s
Being from rugby town, the look of confusion from people when they ask where i'm from. Many dont know the town exists, that rugby is only a sport 😂
@@stevejames3725snap. I'm from rugby too.
21:24 The "helmet" that some players wear is called a scrum cap, its generally worn by the "forwards" (the players who participate in the scrum) to prevent damage to their ears. Forwards who don't wear one usually develop "cauliflower ears" from repeated damage.
The scrum cap is very similar to the cap worn by the teams who play water-polo except that the waterpolo cap has more substantial straps and rigid plastic ear-covers as opposed to the fabric ear flaps worn by the rugby players. Some rugby players especially those who have a history of head injuries have been known to wear a cap comprising a number of pieces of foam rubber joined together to surround the skull with a chin strap similar to early cycling helmets, which were virtually identical. It is also common for rugby players to wear a crepe type bandage around their head in the style of a sweatband. Normally the only players to wear headbands or caps are the 3 players known as the front row who are usually two of the larger players who are called the left and right prop forwards and and a slightly less well built third player who is called the Hooker. He hangs on the shoulders of his props and engages his head in the gap between his opponents head and his prop like interlacing your fingers. The props are thus lifted off the ground by their props so they can use both of their feet to try to push the ball backwards to the rest of his teammates who are mostly pushing the front row forward against the opposing team as they are doing the same. One player from each team stand to one side of the scrum who are known as the scrum halves and one of them is given the ball to feed into the scrum from the side. As the ball is fed into the scrum the halves try to move to the back of the scrum in order to grab the ball as it gets pushed out. The scrum half who manages to get the ball can then either pass the ball backwards to another player to start to run towards the touchdown line or sometimes the scrum half in possession of the ball can turn and attempt to run with the ball to score a touchdown himself.
The scrum cap is very similar to the cap worn by the teams who play water-polo except that the waterpolo cap has more substantial straps and rigid plastic ear-covers as opposed to the fabric ear flaps worn by the rugby players. Some rugby players especially those who have a history of head injuries have been known to wear a cap comprising a number of pieces of foam rubber joined together to surround the skull with a chin strap similar to early cycling helmets, which were virtually identical. It is also common for rugby players to wear a crepe type bandage around their head in the style of a sweatband. Normally the only players to wear headbands or caps are the 3 players known as the front row who are usually two of the larger players who are called the left and right prop forwards and and a slightly less well built third player who is called the Hooker. He hangs on the shoulders of his props and engages his head in the gap between his opponents head and his prop like interlacing your fingers. The props are thus lifted off the ground by their props so they can use both of their feet to try to push the ball backwards to the rest of his teammates who are mostly pushing the front row forward against the opposing team as they are doing the same. One player from each team stand to one side of the scrum who are known as the scrum halves and one of them is given the ball to feed into the scrum from the side. As the ball is fed into the scrum the halves try to move to the back of the scrum in order to grab the ball as it gets pushed out. The scrum half who manages to get the ball can then either pass the ball backwards to another player to start to run towards the touchdown line or sometimes the scrum half in possession of the ball can turn and attempt to run with the ball to score a touchdown himself.
It also protects against opponents biting ears. What goes on in a scrum, stays in a scrum.
Why did Americans start wearing helmets and pads? Probably down to American personal injury lawyers. 😂
@@billyhills9933 Another trick was for a prop to use his inner hand to grab the opposing hooker's testicles and squeeze them hard to divert his attention away from the ball in play.
The ‘scrum-cap’ (your ‘helmet’) is a relatively thin, soft head-covering designed merely to lessen risk of physical head damage, mainly such as the unpleasant possibility of the ears being ripped off in the scrum. They’re not compulsory.
It might also be worn to protect a wound dressing (a bloody bandage will get you sent off for treatment)
What aren't compulsory, scrum caps or ears?
@@neilanyon4792 Neither is compulsory, but the lack of one may lead to the lack of, or damage to the other.
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Ears
the scrum cap mostly worn by the wings and never guys in the actual scrum🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Football (soccer to Americans) is a gentleman’s game played by hooligans, and Rugby is a hooligans’ game played by gentlemen”
Spot on! I married a Rugby player. Sound choice. ❤
I called it 😂😂😂
In other words football is for the poors and rugby if a toffs game.
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If in your mind you equate being a hooligan with being poor then perhaps you need to reconsider how you judge people.
@@VillaFanDan92 Have you seen how much football players get paid? They're not poor by any means.
As an aged rugby union player, who has represented country at a young age, my career was short lived and left me with a limp. No pads or helmets, just muscle anf flesh to muscle and flesh! Cannot wait for the 6 Nations... Feels so long between 6 Nations! You guys should watch it!
You may be interested in the Six Nations that starts in Feb. It is Rugby Union and teams from: England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, France & Italy compete.
There is also the Autumn internationals starting in November involving all the top nations, including the ones from the southern hemisphere.
I second each of the above. International games have some HUGE and very historical rivalries too which add to the mix
Yes! Both women and men play in this tournament. Highly recommended.
@@eivindkaisen6838I was just about to say
Plus Women's Six Nations and Women's WC.
Rugby league is MUCH faster paced, as even though in the video it said there is a slight stoppage, their really isnt. In Union, after someone is tackled and they present the ball, in order to stop the other team from getting over the downed person first, a ruck is formed where two teams push against one another, to either get the ball or stop the team from getting the ball (if that makes sense). This time adds up and does actually give the players a slight break, whereas in League, there is no small break, and it is sprinting continuously, especially as you have to get back 10 meters to not be offside and give away a penalty or reset the tackle count. Hope this helps.
When I served in the Army I was once stationed in SHAPE which was a multi-national base.. Our UK element played football and Rugby, the American element on the base made up a Rugby (Union) team and the US really got addicted to it, They played really often and enjoyed nothing more than a ruck with the UK team. Great spectator event for the US families, they loved it. So much so, during my time there, American Football wasn't played by the US forces.
Best bloody sport in the world mate
Americans are actually natural rugby players
Great story, mate.
Supreme Headquarters of Allied Powers in Europe. :D Showing your age there, bro (and your integrity).
American Football is a 60 minute game that takes 4 hours to play, Rugby is 80 minutes of non stop action
with 10 mins of actual play
Love that!
Except when we can fall asleep whilst the scrum is set and reset.. Zzzz
Rugby Union can often be continual repetitive kicks for territory, stalled stumbling phase after phase that make no progress, mistakes with the offload or scrum penalties. Some games contain as much action as watching a pensioner walk to a bus stop.
@@Chris_from_yealand still a hundred times better than American football😁
Glad you're reviewing rugby. I've been a fan of Rugby Union for over 50 years, a great game Both codes of rugby play games of 80 mins. two halves of 40 minutes each
You guys crack me up in a good way, you tried the game of snooker rules, and are now trying to make sense of rugby union/league well done, American football has me scratching my head !
Great to see the St Helens women’s team featured. If you want to watch a proper demonstration of Rugby League, watch any game between St Helens and our arch rivals Wigan.
Or the National Team - the Red Roses!
The most thrilling game of rugby I have ever watched was the 2003 Rugby Union World Cup final when England and Australia went toe-to-toe. With one try and four penalties scored by each team it all came down to the last 20 seconds of the game. A real edge-of-the-seat game
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Atherstone Ball Game.The Atherstone Ball Game is a "medieval football" game played annually on Shrove Tuesday in the English town of Atherstone, Warwickshire. The game honours a match played between Leicestershire and Warwickshire in 1199, when teams competed for a bag of gold, and which was won by Warwickshire.
Rugby School is a public school in Rugby, Warwickshire, England. Founded in 1567
My 2 daughters used to have season tickets to go watch Leeds Rhinos (league). Standing sometimes in the freezing cold to watch a game. The thing i liked was the fans from both sides used to mingle after the game & never saw any trouble, unlike football 😊
Two things I like about rugby are the respect for the referees and the free association and mingling of supporters of opposing teams.
in rugby, the violence is on the pitch
I remember playing rugby at school in Scotland in the 1970s, and having to spend a Saturday afternoon - after a game - helping my friend find and pick up his missing teeth! :) ... I'm 62 now, and still limp when the weather is cold and wet because of knee injuries I got playing. :)
Duhan van der Merwe. That try. That's all! I miss Bill McLaren. A legend. And Doddie of course. The mad giraffe!
In my school, rugby season seemed to start when the ground was frozen solid and as hard as rock. We would get cut up by the frozen grass. The general practice was trying to drop kick the ball against your opponents half frozen thighs.
When I played school rugby on a few occasions I nearly had an eye torn out by the studs of a player I was trying to tackle. I finally stopped playing colts rugby after breaking my left collarbone which caused me to miss a county trial.
My brother played school boy rugby in the 90s and he's creaking now. Bless you all
I played as a winger, being small and fast, my games master said always remember the bigger they are the harder they fall, they usually fell on me!
Aw, you’re such a lovely couple and I’ve been following you for months. I’ve watched many “American Reacts” vids but I love you the best because you come across as genuine in showing real interest in my beautiful country and our culture. God bless and love to the three of you.
You seemed a bit confused by Rugby School. Rugby is a town in Warwickshire (about 8 miles from me) and had (and still has) a school...Rugby school. It was there that William Webb Ellis first picked up and ran with the ball, thus 'inventing' the game. The game is named after Rugby school.
You might also like to know that originally a 'try' did not score points. It was called that, because it gave the team a 'try' at kicking a goal to score points (what is now the conversion after a try).
I'm afraid that Webb Ellis story is a myth that only appeard after he had died. But the World Cup Trophy is named after him nonetheless.
Football involved carrying the ball long before Rugby's rules of football were drawn up. It was a step back in time from association football to a more traditional form.
@@eivindkaisen6838 But it is a great myth.
My dads side is from rugby
Have been recommending this one for a while so glad you’ve got around to watching it
We still have the old fashioned ball game in Atherstone no rules except no killing anyone Usually the last 20mins end up in good old brawl great fun to watch. Igo every year as just 10mins down the road from me.
Does anyone pick up the ball and run with it?
@@DeepThought9999 There are 3 rules: 1) the game cannot leave Atherstone high street. 2) No one can deliberately kill another player. 3) Whoever has the ball at the end of 2 hours, wins.
There are rituals about how it starts (i.e. it's dropped from the balcony of the old Barclays building on Atherstone high street at 2pm on Shrove Tuesday).
That's it. Those are the rules. Anything goes - it's officially the world's most violent sport.
Oh, and the prize? You will win.... the ball.
Is the no killing anyone a modern rule?
Or do you mean no deliberately killing?
Ashbourne in Derbyshire has a couple of annual Mob Football matches every year as well.
Ashbourne has the no killing rule as well, either deliberately (the matches would be a great cover for murderous villainy), or accidentally. The running time is different though, as is the "pitch size". There are two teams, one from either side of Henmore Brook, the goals are 3 miles apart, kick off is at 2pm and they're not keen on the match finishing before 6pm. If the match finishes before 6, they would throw another ball and start again (they used to, but I don't know if that's still a thing). Official cut off is 10pm.
Just for interest - Princess Anne's daughter Zara is Married to Mike Tindall. He played Rugby Union for England between 2000 - 2011. The Royals as a whole - but especially Princess Anne, are very keen/passionate Rugby fans. Prince William is Patron of The Welsh Rugby Union in his role of Prince of Wales, Princess Catherine is patron of the English Rugby Union & I believe the Northern Ireland Rugby Union - (very amusing to see clips of them watching Wales & England play), Princess Anne is still - I believe - patron of the Scottish Rugby Union.
I don't tend to watch much team sport on TV - just not my thing. But I will make an effort to watch The Six Nations or Rugby World Cup. You may be interested by the New Zealand Rugby Union national team. They are known as the 'All Blacks' and before each game (well every game I've seen them play), they perform a traditional Màori Haka. (I'll leave you to google that).
The Haka is a war dance..terrifying
@helenbailey8419 yes - it is both.
There is also footage of our Princess of Wales visiting a coaching session (England I think) and was "lifted" in the air as per the shots shown earlier in this video.
Mike was the captain of England for a period.
Now you see why people laugh at all the padding American Footballers wear! Such dainty little souls. 😀 After Rugby take a look at Australian Rules Football. It's kind of a mix.
In fact, the armour is dangerous in long-term play. It encourages harder tackling which generates more energy which, one way or another, makes its way up and down the spinal column and causes more sever whiplash effects leading to brain injuries which can last a lifetime. That's why there's moves to actually ban it in rugby, as some players have been experimenting with light armour under their jerseys.
In the 70s and early 80s some players wore thin shoulder and chest pads but they were more a hindrance than a helpful thing.
So American football is played with hands, and touchdowns don't require touchdown... Makes sense.
What about renaming it "play 20% of the time tight pants padded rugby with no brain for the players and coaches instructing them everything all the time"?
But yet longer term brain injuries are becoming more recognised in Rugby players. Repetitive concussions etc.... maybe the helmets are not such a stupid idea, and then once you have helmets crashing into players bodies then maybe the padding might start to make sense.... I probably wouldn't like to see it myself I'm just saying we shouldn't perhaps laugh at it as much as we have in the past.
Im a huge fan and love watching rugby union. Always edge of seat games and shouting at the tv
If you look at some older rugby union players they have "cauliflower" ears a bit like some boxers. This is caused in the scrum mainly and the forwards.
The cap is just a thin padded protective garment tp protect your ears and head and possibly hair. It is not a hard helmet. You can imagine in the scrum with headlocks it wouldn't take much for ears to be "rolled" .
Note you showed some womens games there and even they don't wear the skull cap much. Also apart from a padded sports bra they play pretty much the same as male players.
There are also gum shields and shoulder pads but not many wear these.
Basically in rugby no hard protection is used so it can't be used as a "weapon" it's all more about protection.
The medieval violent football is still played in one place it’s called the Atherstone ball game, you’d love to react to that. It’s so great.
And also at Ashbourne in Derbyshire, every Shrove Tuesday and Ash Wednesday. It's wild.
And Alnwick Northumberland
And in Florence, Italy. Watch out the "calcio storico fiorentino"
And the Haxey Hood, on 6th January (or thereabouts) in Lincolnshire.
I recommend watching some of the 2003 Rugby World Cup when England won last. It was an amazing competition and got me really into Rugby Union
Why not go for something more recent like one of the last few Calcutta Cup matches 😉🦄
One of the major points not mentioned in this video....in rugby you're only allowed to tackle the person with the ball! And there are loads of rules around what is a legal tackle. This is why it's possible to play without padding and not get (too) injured.
Also remember, rugby has no rules as such. They are laws of the game! 🏉 It's also one of the most respectful games in my opinion.
Most of the tackling rules are fairly recent. When I played it was only neck tackles which weren't allowed. Pretty much anything else went.
The distinction between Rules and Laws is outside the scope of this vide...I mean comment ;)
I don't know if you noticed but the extra kicking conversion point after a try is scored has to be taken directly in line from where the ball was touched down as opposed to directly from the middle as per NFL
When I first went to college in 1988 I lived with 5 American rugby players from Wisconsin, they'd come to study in Wales for a year because rugby union is such a popular sport in Wales and they all trained and played with the college rugby team while they were here, they play rugby in Canada so I guess that rugby is probably more known in the northern states bordering Canada than the southern states. I grew up playing rugby, in Wales at the time it was the number one sport played so pretty much all kids played it, you don't think of it as brutal or dangerous when you're playing it though, it's just a lot of fun.
My 13 year old nephew is the captain of his school Ruby team. So proud of him.
Congratulations on being the proud Uncle of an active young teen, with the skills and devotion to a sport he obviously must love.
My (since Oct. 2015, late) Mum enjoyed watching Rugby - I don't know which code - in her youth...in between horseriding* and hockey, and lacrosse...
I never inherited her love of those more physically-active sports,
_Except_ _equestrianism_ ! 🐎♥️🐎🤭
(*which is _my preferred_ - sorry - sport)
I'm not surprised you are proud of him, it takes a special breed of person to play rugby let alone captain the team.
That's cool, I'd be proud too.
Aww bless him. Good lad
For a first encounter, you guys did a good job of keeping up. I agree that Rugby Union sounds more like your thing. It can be both fast and furious, especially at international level.
The 'helmet' is a skull cap. Primarily used to protect the ears and prevent cuts and scrapes to the face.
Scrum cap not a skull cap. most front line player that are in the scrum dont wear it they prefer bandage and tape. the wings wear them to be more arrow dynamic🤣🤣🤣
In (Union) scrums there's one position at the front in the middle called the Hooker - their job was traditionally to kick the ball backwards to their team inside the scrum while the rest of them try to push forwards. These days the ball isn't really contested as much as it's too difficult so the Hooker pushes as well, the aim being to drive the other team backwards and gain a lot of ground. If the other team breaks out of the scrum or falls over, you win a free kick or a penalty depending on the situation, you can also drive them right over the try line and just touch the ball down in the scrum. It's a powerful tool that sometimes works really well and sometimes is such a dead heat they don't go anywhere and just fall over all the time.
Womens rugby is just as brutal as men's rugby! There are lots of videos on the "brutal" tackles😂😂😂
Just as! Don't you mean much more brutal. I've known many games of hockey and rugby, no way would I dare play any mixed match of either.
Agreed! I played Sunday league and it was tough, fast ,and hard!
Another big difference between American football and Rugby is that we dont have seperate Offence and Defence players who as i understand can be changed regularly for AF. There are two distinct groups of players on a rugby team though, the Forwards (who wear shirt numbers 1 to 8) are in general the big, hard chaps/chapettes who might not move fast but are pretty hard to stop moving. They are the ones you see in a scrum and lineout, and in general play their main roll is to protect the ball if one of their teammates is tackled by the opposition. Typically its the forwards who will try to protect the ball so their team retains possession and can then attack again.
The second group is called the Backs. They are generally physically smaller, have crap haircuts, cant hold their beer, rely on the forwards for protection and take credit for everything. Their main job is to attempt to move the ball forward up the pitch and eventually score a try. They tend to be the guys you see running forward with the ball, then passing on to another back just as they are tackled and so on until they make it over the line.
There really is something for everyone in the game as a whole. As an ex forward i love seeing a match between teams with good forwards as i love the technical aspect of 16 blokes averaging 16 stone each trying to push each other out the way! But seeing a well disciplined back line taking apart an oppositions defence at speed really is a thing of true beauty! And the singing!
You really need to hear the Jocks belting out Flower of Scotland, or england fans singing Swing Low during a Calcutta Cup game! Never mind your football chants, theres real goosepimples there!
I'm from rugby town, rugby school is a public school costs a lot of money to attend there. The whole town is about 450 years old and has a lot of history like the the jet engine and famous world war one poet Rupert Brook
I used to do some work at the school, it's around £50k a year to send a kid there, but it is amazing, and the corridors do feel exactly like hogwarts. Yes, I got to throw a ball on the field there.
Rugby was an iron age settlement that became a Roman town. It was then taken over by the Anglo Saxons and is mentioned in the Doomsday Book. You need to add at least 1500 years to your 450 years! Even Rugby School is slightly older than that, having been established in 1567.
'Scuse me butting in, but perhaps that wasn't quite as clear as it might have been? For the reactors' benefit: Rugby is a town in the middle of England, the fee--paying school there was named after the town, and the version of football was named after the school. Several private schools played versions of the sport according to their own rules at one time, and the version played at this school became the dominant one described as "Union" by the video in the 1840s, with "League" starting in the 1890s. 🏉
Steve is sooooo going to get into rugby.. I’m from
England and a football (soccer) nut and don’t watch rugby, but I can see how an American who likes American football would love rugby cos it’s so much more raw and pure
Lindsey . You have time to watch lots of Rugby between now and February .
That's is when the six nations happens .
This is a series of games were England Wales Scotland Ireland France and Italy play against one another . The England ball is merch from these games .
If you can watch the matches get very involved in picking a side and then making it a fun way of learning . It's how children Sofias age learn the basics of supporting a team . It's then fun when Sofias team goes against Daddys or Mummy's.
Good for explaining maths and sportsmanship .
7 aside is even faster and good fun .
It started in the area of Scotland not far from where I live .
I grew up watching Rugby league but see more Union now I live in Scotland .
The autumn internationals against the All Blacks, Australia and South Africa are coming up.
'The Rugby School' was a public school [ fee paying, equivalent to a Private School in the US ] near the town of Rugby, a few miles east of the city of Coventry.
Still is?
No The in front of it though. Just known as Rugby School.
@@DeepThought9999 Yes, I ms-spoke slightly. I was thinking about Rugby School in the time of William Webb-Ellis.
In the early days of football (soccer) there were no forward passes, as in the modern game of rugby football. A pupil at Rugby school, William Webb Ellis, read the rules of the game and realised there was no rule to prevent him from picking up the ball and running with it, thereby creating rugby football. The shape of the ball was changed to make it easier to throw and catch.
Rugby League is actually a faster paced and more attacking game than rugby union, as there are fewer players on the pitch.
Rugby union is slower and more physical game due to the extra players and smaller space on the pitch.
Union has also got the disadvantage of needing very tall players to contest the lineout, who tend not to be as mobile or agile in open play.
@davidpreston9909 I definitely prefer league over union.
Much more enjoyable to watch.
The three pretty much sit on a spectrum of continuous intensity vs plenty of downtime to strategise/employ specialists. League maxes out on continuous intensity, American Football maxes out on specialisation and downtime; Union fits in the middle, though probably has the least per-play dynamism in return for more set pieces.
@@davidpreston9909That’s an advantage for the tall players (not me)! For the tall sportspeople, it’s mainly just basketball, Rugby Union or AFL (here in Oz). One of the beauties of Rugby Union is the game’s suitability for a wide variety of player shapes and sizes. Not so much in other sports. So if you are small and light but agile and speedy like I used to be or short, fat but strong or mid-sized, speedy and strong or beanstalk tall and strong, there is a suitable position on the field for you. You just need to be able to develop all the ball and tackling skills, skills I was mostly poor at as a child unfortunately, so despite my enthusiasm, my playing career was very limited. Instead I have followed closely my local Rugby Union teams for most of my 70 years.
@DeepThought9999 good points - I played prop as I was large for my age and have never been skinny, my best mate played scrum half (or occasionally hooker) as he was stocky but much shorter than me
The hats that some wear are caps that protect ears in the scrum. Cauliflower ear is common for the front row of the scrum. Just google cauliflower ear pics and you will see why some player wears the cap
I suggest watching any England vs. New Zealand women's rugby union game (you'll end up obsessed!) xx
William Webb Ellis is said to be the "Father" of Rugby. He attended Rugby School, which the Sport is named after the school. In Warwickshire England.
And just to add, for the benefit of the channel creators, the world cup that is held every 4 years, the trophy is the Webb Ellis trophy, named after him
Hi Steve and Lindsay . My home town of Huddersfield is where the meeting was held, at the George Hotel, where the game of Rugby was split into the two codes. In my youth I played Rugby League and watched my local team, Fartown (so called because it was the far town from Huddersfield. It really is now only a suburb of Huddersfield). This Fartown team is now known as the Huddersfield Giants. My great uncle was one of the first players to be paid for playing Rugby League for Fartown. My son also played Rugby League and is now a trainer for his local junior teams where his two sons aged six and eight are learning to play.
The 40-20 rule is a significant difference too. Where the ball is kicked from behind the kickers own 40m line and goes out within the defensive teams 20m line and the goal line. The ball has to bounce out over the side line to regain possession. Another significant difference is when the game in RL is drawn at the end of the game, they then compete to get the golden point to win. In Hull we have 2 teams and the competition rivalry the 2 and the fans is fierce. First we have Hull FC based in West Hull at the MKM Stadium. Then you also have Hull Kingston Rovers (or Hull KR) based in East Hull at the Craven Park stadium.
The MKM Stadium was called the KCom Stadium but is also known as the Hull City Stadium due to sponsorship regulations. This ground is also the home ground of the football team called Hull City and generally they get bigger crowds than either of the 2 RL teams.
There is a similar rule now in Union the 50 /22 kick except the kicking team gets athrow in the lineout rather than a scrum feed but the principle is the same.
@@Joseph13163 Yeah Rugby Union basically stole it from League lol
Watching Rugby is exciting, I was nursing up the valleys in the 70’s and was lucky enough to work in the same hospital as some of the rugby players from what was a brilliant Welsh team. JPR Williams . It was like a religion , Cardiff Arms Park I watch France v Wales match.
My son plays both codes of rugby. He's only 24 and after 4 concussions, 3 shoulder surgeries to have a metal plate both inserted and removed, he still wouldn't miss a Saturday afternoon game for the world. Rugby players are a different breed.
Brutal 😮
So, the great thing about watching a Rugby match, is that you can hear the Referee throughout the entire match, which helps a lot in understanding what is going on. There's a brilliant, now retired, Ref called Nigel Owens who has a few compilations on TH-cam as he was always witty and funny. Starting in November, there is what is called the 'Autumn Internationals' happening, the Southern teams (NZ, Aus, Arg, SA etc) come and tour the Northern teams. I believe the US are playing some games in November too, this is Rugby Union. Then in Feb/March next year the Six Nations will take place, an annual tournament between Eng, Sco, Wal, Ire, Fra & Ita, it's a mini league where everyone plays everyone for points, most points wins (there are also some other things going on too like the match between Eng & Sco is called the 'Calcutta Cup').
Also, 'The Rugby School' relates to the School in the town of Rugby :)
The 'Helmets' some players wear is called a Scrum Cap, it reduces the knock from accidental head contact and some players just opt to wear it.
Also also, I've been watching Union for 10 years and still pick up new things every now and then that i've missed.
When my old headmaster mentioned 'football' he meant Rugby Football, he called soccer 'Association Football' (where the term soccer comes from) much to our derision as kids.
IMHO, the key to understanding Rugby Union is to learn about the "Breakdown", "Rucks" and "Mauls" and therefore it's worth watching a video explaining these in more detail. So much of the game's open play will be influenced by what happens during these phases of play - i.e. a lot of penalties are given away during these phases by players being offside, "entering the ruck from the side" or "putting their hands in the ruck", etc. Scrummages or "Scrums" are also a key event (known as a 'Set piece') in the game as there are a lot of rules governing how it's played and again can result in lots of penalties.
I'm a 4th generation Rugby Union player, played Fly Half. I'm 46 now, but I still fancy trying again. I'd probably get snapped in half though.
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Hi there... I'm older and have health problems BUT we have what is called 'walking rugby' here which allows older players to still enjoy the game without it being too physically taxing.
Those younger men would break us guys in our 40s 😂
I played rugby once. Only once! I used to work in an office where a few of the lads played at the weekend. They'd come in on Monday with assorted bits missing! My nephew is a fly half too.
@@alfiekelly5914 I've still got a small piece missing off the top of left ear, from a rugby match when I was a teenager (30 years ago). Funny how tRump's grew back so quickly... 🤔
@@simonmetcalfe5926 Ha Ha. I thought that I was the only one that thought the same thing! Mind you, I wish I'd been a teenager 30 years ago. I even struggle with golf now. Mostly a non contact sport! I've had a few boxing matches on courses though. I once lost an 8 iron by hurling it towards an eejit. It flew over the trainline.
😊😊In New Zealand there was a rugby team training for a match.The coach asked a team of ballet dancers to compare their training.The ruby players couldn't keep up with the ballet performers..the coaches increased the training and the rugby players improved alot.
Some areas still play a game similar to the medieval sport of football. Check out the Atherstone ball game.
In Australia, rugby league is also called the running game as its more about the running and not so much about moving through the phases. Think of union as an arm wrestle of a game, while league is quick and fast running. Dont think the stoppages for playjng the ball as stop start, as they need to play the ball quickly and not delay the play of the ball.
In rugby league there is no massive stop between tackles. It's 5 to 10 secs depending on how far into the match you are. It's tiring! Much much much faster than american football.
I always thought it ironic that a try has to touch down but a touchdown does not have to touch down.
It's called a try because, back in the day, you were not awarded any points for touching the ball down in goal.
All you got was a free kick at goal. You were allowed to TRY to score uncontested.
I'm from a rugby union family. My grandpa, my father, each of my five sons, and all of my grandsons played or still play. The reason rugby has no American style pads and helmets is chiefly because tackles above the line of the shoulders are illegal. In junior school rugby (under 13s), tackles are forbidden below the chest line. It is illegal to tackle anyone not in possession of the ball.
You said in reference to junior Rugby “tackles are forbidden below the chest line”. Shouldn’t that be “forbidden above the chest line”? New laws coming into force in International Rugby Board matches the next (Southern Hemisphere) season I believe will require tackles to be made between the chest and knees only. Not sure about this however.
Regarding rugby league, the commentator says "they wanted to get paid". Not quite. They wanted to be paid their expenses in traveling down to the south of the country on the train to play southern clubs. In the north, players were generally working class men who worked in factories or down the mines, and were poorly paid, so train fares were a significant expense for them. Whereas in the south, players were more likely to be middle class who could more easily afford such fares when traveling north.
The board of the rugby union was exclusively middle class southerners (at a time of extreme snobbishness about 'class') who had little sympathy for the working class players from the north, and in fact thought the game would be better if it was only played by 'gentlemen', so they refused to allow northern clubs to reimburse players expenses. Hence the formation of the rugby league and the evolution of the different code.
Us Northerners love having "union" representation when we work ;)
..then Churchill sends gunboats up the Mersey River (in 1911) to stop us Scousers from striking :D
Not forgetting no holidays, at that time, so no work no pay.
@@nickywall872 Completely right. But even so, they were not asking for compensation for loss of pay, just expenses, and even this was denied,
Originaly with a line out when the ball was thrown the players from both teams could only jump for the ball. If lifted and the ref seen it a foul was called. But it kept happening that much and the play being stopped they changed the rules to allow it for continueous play
A side note: they are allowed to lit the player up but not hold him/her up; the have to come down by ther own momentum and gravity.
The attacking team decides how many players can be involved in the line-out. And the throw in - if contested, must be straight to allow the defendig team a fai contest.
The greatest quote about rugby is that it is war played by gentlemen.
One of the great things in rugby is the reverence that the players have for the referee.
For example:- 2 prop forwards both 6 feet tall and 250 pounds 24:49 ( front row in the scrum) are fighting and the referee blows his whistle stopping play . The referee steps in between them and tells both players off to which the players apologise and shake hands.
Watching this has just recalled a memory that I was pretty good at throwing lineouts at school.
I actually had no idea of the difference in rules, so this was also a learning experience for me.
The 'helmet', is a scrum cap. Some players wear it, they give some cushioning and protect your ears.
Yeah, primarily to add a little bit of protection to the high pressures the head can experience in a scrum
Years ago I picked up an American guy in my taxi here in the UK and was a bit surprised when he said he played Rugby for Albuquerque.
That's awesome imo
Rugby League is alot easier to understand I live in the north of England on the boarder to Yorkshire and League dominates here ad kids we used to play a game called British bulldog very similar but can only tackle by Touch the opponent rather than tackle but it prepared us for rugby football league 👍 I also enjoy union
Now take a look at Wheelchair Rugby League. It's the same rules, pass backwards while moving forwards, kick (with closed fist), and uses an oval ball, a bit smaller than the one you showed in this video.
Not to be confused with the Paralympic sport of Murder Ball, which is called Wheelchair rugby but uses a round ball and is almost nothing like the running version of rugby.
The video you watched didn't include a "maul" which can also occur after a tackle. Sometimes the tackled player is prevented from falling to the ground by the tackler and so the tackled player does not need to release the ball. Then players from both sides can join the "maul" and attempt to gain possession of the ball by well wrestling the ball away from the player in possession. It doesn't happen as often as a ruck but it does happen.
The South African team, the Springboks, have perfected the maul as much as it can be perfected. Watch the 2023 Rugby World Cup semi-final and final or the most recent 2024 Rugby Championship and you will see what I mean.
I was an avid player of Rugby in my teens and university years. Spent around 3 years playing as a loose head prop / forward. I had one of those head caps pretty much every game I played. There's a condition called Cauliflower Ear which is very common for Props who don't wear them.
I love watching you video having a bad morning you know there's good people in the world
Love to you Luke and hope your day improves .. from Ireland x
I’m Australian, I’ve played at “rugby school”. Amazing fields!
Hi Guys , womens rugby is good too . 😊
18:37 Rugby is a town in the Midlands, near Birmingham, Leicester, and Northampton. Rugby School is a prestigious public (private, for US folk) school in the town.
Stops cauliflower ears from the scrum does the scrum cap.
I would love to see Lindsays reaction to you showing her rugby teams singing their national anthems.
A rugby match is about 80 minutes, 40 minutes each half with a 15 minute half time... usually with very little downtime. Each half also does not end until one of the teams removes the ball from play, generally by kicking it to touch
A typical game, if you sit down to watch live, is over in under 2 hours. Your timings are right, but there are some stoppages for subs, TMO reviews, sometimes water breaks and the like. Also injuries in at least some matches. That usually adds about 10 minutes to the time.
One thing that is pretty common to both versions (maybe less so in the now professional era) is after the game they both go to the bar and have a drinking contest between themselves.
If you haven't already, Aussie Rules Football is worth checking out, a very different game but the 'tackles' are just as mad and violent
American football is 3 hours of advertising with only 12 minutes of actual play. Just cheer leaders dancing around.
gotta earn those $$.
I read it was closer to 6 😂
The best thing would be to watch some rugby.
The England vs New Zealand 2019 semi final is on TH-cam and its a very entertaining game.
Great vid btw
Similarly for League, the 2013 England v New Zealand World Cup semi-final is one of the best games I’ve ever seen.
@@DavidGlease yeah for sure, great game. The League stuff coming out of Australia is also worth a watch, NRL game of origin stuff is always good
Rugby is a town in England
Just discovered your channel. Am a Brit, I love this. Please keep creating content 😊
Enjoying your measured & reflective commentary,very perceptive.
The helmet is to protect the ears when in the middle of the scrum
It can hardly be called a helmet. It is just a cloth cap, and the 'forwards' in the scrum usually just wear a headband that covers the top part of their ears. These days the scrum cap is mostly used by the flanks or 'wings' because they are the ones who usually take a flying dive into the tryline area and could knock their heads on the ground.
One major difference between Rugby (both variations) and American Football is that there is no constantly changing the teams on the field between "offence" and "defence". Rugby players that start the game are normally expected to play right through the entire game, although some substitutions are allowed, usually to replace injured players. This has the effect of requiring different levels of fitness from the players. In American Football, since the game constantly stops after each play and because whole team changes occur when going from offence to defence, the players can rely more on sheer strength rather than endurance since they will always be getting "refresher" breaks during play. In Rugby the endurance aspect of fitness is more important because you don't get many breaks in play and the game continues unabated. There is also a difference in "technical" training. Since the whole team changes in American Football when a team goes from offence to defence, and sometimes just between plays several players may change, each individual player can base his entire training regimen on developing one particular skill. In rugby every player basically has to train to do almost every job on the field. There are, of course, specialisations amongst the players (ie. the kickers) but to a much lesser extent than in American Football. These different requirements mean that these games really are massively different games, and even require very different types of players!
Did the video miss out that rugby doesn't change all the players on the field every few minutes, whereas American football has its distinct defensive and offensive 'teams'?
Hi you two. My son's school rugby team did a two week tour playing teams in Canada and USA. They left the day after their senior prom. Flew to Toronto, played a couple of matches there. Then went by bus via Niagara to Buffalo where they played two more games. They then travelled on to Florida, near Sea World for their last two matches. They were very fortunate to have an excellent sports teacher who arranged the whole trip. The school had done the tour for a number of years. Unfortunately they don't do it now, as that teacher has retired.
Rugby was invented by an Englishman named William Webb Ellis 1823 .
It is played at club and international level.
It is a strictly controlled sport despite its full contact nature.
"Invented" is stretching it some distance!
@joyfulzero853 who invented rugby, then ? Why is the rugby World Cup trophy named after William Webb Ellis. 'The Webb Ellis Cup '
It's funny seeing your reactions to the clips because it's all technique and very specific thing that we do when playing rugby to keep ot relatively safe. All we need is a gum shield and we are good. (Thougj those "hats" you were talking about are an optional thing, it's padded and called a scrumcap it's ear/head protection for players in the scrum (though not every player in the scrum chooses to wear one)
My son played for our town with several mates including two brothers one of those brothers turned pro. My son had to be convinced to stop because of his mouth he is a professional classical musician that plays brass as his first. It's a tough game played by blokes that are not afraid to get knocked about unlike our American brothers whom play a girls game.
Girl's game? Nice insult to girls, forgetting that they also play rugby.
A “girls game”…. girls play rugby too. 🙄
@@ffotograffydd to both of you yes they do they also play football kind of same as rugby kind of does anyone really watch them kind of. 🙄🥱
@@nellyt2807 Oh dear…
I am currently watching your video while also watching Ireland v New Zealand live on the other screen. You need to watch a full game. Its brilliant to watch normally, particularly the international matches which are considered by most fans to be far more important even than their own club matches and attract huge crowds and media interest.
Forward pass doesn't need over thinking. If the ball is thrown any amount of forward, it's a forward pass.
To clarify: in Rugby Union, it is **only** considered to be a forward pass (or knock-on) if the ball not only travels in a forward direction in flight but also if the ball had been released or knocked in a forward direction out of the passing player’s hands at the moment of that release.
So the passing player’s momentum and method of ball release both need to be taken into consideration in assessing whether or not the pass is “forward”. The passing player’s forward momentum can cause the ball travel forward from the release point even if the ball was passed in a flat or slightly rearwards motion out of the passing player’s hand(s), particularly if that passing player is running forward at speed.
Simple physics means that the passing player’s momentum is maintained by the ball on its release, thus adding a component to the ball’s trajectory in whichever direction the passing player was moving. This trajectory component is “forward” for the ball if the passing player was moving forward at the moment of release. If the passing player was tackled backwards as the ball was released, the ball would have a rearwards component to its trajectory.
So this type of pass where the passing player releases the ball with a clear rearward or lateral motion out of the hands, even if the passing player’s momentum causes the ball to travel forward from its point of release, is not considered by (good) referees to be a forward pass. Referees do sometimes make mistakes, however.
I live in the UK and the re-enactment society where I live found the rules for the nearest version of football from the Middle Ages. There was one (1) rule; it was, 'No bladed weapons unless by prior arrangement'. (!)
I prefer rugby to football (soccer). Real mans game rugby
In a rugby union scrum both sets of “forwards” bend down and push against the opposing side the ball is thrown into the space between the two scrums and then the team try to gain possession by pushing against the other side and hooking it back. Once the ball comes free it is grabbed and we are off again.
Rugby, when viewed by americans always seem to be facinated by the fact that there is no helmets or padding.
The truth is that there are very strict rules around HOW you tackle a player in Rugby... It is the tackler's responsibility to safely tackle the player and ensure they are put to ground safely, cannot tackle above chest height, must wrap their arms around the the tackle, etc.
With american football, they use their bodies as weapons to launch themselves into players to tackle, such as spear tackles and usinging their head, most likely BECAUSE of the pads and helmets.
And because of all the ‘protection’ American football players are more likely to sustain long term injuries, including life changing head injuries.
I can’t believe you two haven’t done your homework on these two codes before this video! Your understanding is better than some people who purport to support the games!
American football is way too long. 3 hour game of any sport is ridiculous. Rugby league is 80 minutes with a 10 minute half time after 40 minutes. Plus it's only 13 players. NFL is 30+ players or something.
Yet a game of cricket can be 5 days.
@@DomingoDeSantaClaraAnd fascinating.
Rugby is scrums for that there is only Rugby Union 🏉 much love from South Africa 🇿🇦
Welcome to American Rugby ... You called it football, but it's obviously based on rugby lol.
Football = Association Football
Rugby = Rugby Football.
American Football = Hand-Egg. 😉
Rugby deserves to be called a football code because kicking is hugely important and its more than kicking,feet in the ruck and heeling the ball in the scrum with the feet.Its the only real way to advance the ball other than running with ball in hand which is very had to do without a platform created by kicking for territory.
Rugby is a town in Warwickshire where Rugby School, one of the top public (private) schools, is situated.