@@horsefootrot5654 Much respect to you if you're running on in your 50s but you can have it mate. F that, I'm still licking my wounds from last weekend.
@@goodshipkaraboudjan I'm kinda small, lean, and still agile but gas out rather quickly mate. More worried about twisting an ankle nowadays. But here Cambodia I work and play with some young Staffas, gotta give them the goods. Keep the young fellas in check☝🏻😂😂 Edit: but yeah the stiffness can be a bother. But I teach some of the lads kick boxing so gotta shrug it off at some point😂😂 Fortunately a lot of the expats drink hard. I don't so that helps.
@@horsefootrot5654 Haha yep played a lot of club in Australia then moved to Hong Kong and kept it up, the pub training sessions don't help. I had fun but don't know what was worse, being gassed after a few minutes, taking a few big knocks or the missus taking the piss out of me on the drive home after I'd spent the drive there regaling her with war stories of my glory days. It was only suburban level stuff but I'll give it another crack if they'll have me back.
I played both Rugby codes - hate League, and loved Union. I loved the fact the ball was live and contested after a tackle, and loved the ruck - if the tackle remains on their feet, it is called a Maul. A rolling maul is when one side can shove the whole thing towards the "enemy" goal. Best of fun!
@@sparkyfromel hahahaha yeah right. Remember when league actually had real scrums? Back when Ray Price was a monster. Michael O'Connor was carving it up. Both ex Wallabies 🤔
You might enjoy the book "Unseen Academicals"by Terry Pratchett. It covers a fantasy version of the original chaotic soccer being civilised, and the descriptions of the games and people's attitudes towards it are drawn heavily from the history, but with a comedic fantasy twist.
The name Rugby comes from the town of the same name in England, where as he explained, the first set of accepted rules were devised. In my opinion, if you have 'grown up' playing and watching one code, you will have little or no love for the other. I am a fan of the best... Rugby Union!
To be precise, the sport is NOT named after the town of Rugby. It is named after Rugby School, where a rudimentary form of the eponyomous game was first recorded. The school was founded during the reign of Elizabeth I.
BS! I grew up in NZ, the land of the All Blacks and played Union into my 20’s, but in recent years, I have become so P___D off with the ridiculous amount of time wasting penalties and other BS that has ruined the game, that I prefer League, as it is closer to the free flowing, running, game that I enjoyed in my youth. Rugby Union today is just a series of mauls and scrums, punctuated by penalty goals resulting from one of the hundred or more scrum infringements invented by the idiots that govern international Rugby. When I played, in the 70’s, if you turned the scrum, YOU were penalised, but now, it’s the other way around! Sometimes! (the glaring inconsistency in how most of these rules are adjudicated is another bugbear of mine!) In the 70’s, if you lifted someone in the lineout, YOU were penalised, but now, it’s allowed, yet a player who tips the out of balance lifted player so that they land on their head is penalised! How the idiots mentioned before DON’T seem to realise that lifting a player two or more metres into the air is BOUND to make it likely that they will get seriously hurt, is beyond me. Lifting was not allowed once upon a time, because it was deemed unfair and unsafe. Make it that way again, and we will see less head, neck, and spinal injuries, as well as less send-offs, penalties, etc. One other thing that was not allowed was any movement of players in the lineout once it had formed, so there was none of this scrambling around, untyil the ball had been taken by one of the players on either team. Then you could form a maul, but not until then. There was also none of this bloody annoying practice of the Referee giving a lesson in how to set the scrum, either. At least 90 % of Scrum failures come from the ludicrous amount of time the Referees make the two sides try to hold the weight of their packs and then allow them to crash into each other, with the whole; Bind, Crouch, Set, process (or whatever it is). It is ridiculous and invariably wastes at least 5 minutes every time a scrum is called and then more often than not results in a penalty. I never though I’d say this, but I really cannot be bothered watching Rugby Union most of the time, as it’s too frustrating. I grew up in the days of the fast wingers and a free-flowing game with passing the ball, rather than one pass, then crash into the opposition, which results in a ruck, then another pass another crash another ruck, etc. nobody seems able to string more than two passes together anymore and the Referees seem to be incapable of letting the game flow. I prefer League these days. The players are MUCH fitter and the game is a far better spectator experience.
@@BigAl53750Crouch, bind, set (or sit when called by New Zealand referees). ;-). Australian here, if you haven’t already guessed. I am still a reasonably keen Rugby (Union) viewer but I feel your frustrations. I no longer go and view multiple grades of Shute Shield matches played by my local team (Gordon in Sydney) every winter weekend as I used to do, nor do I spend money to attend local Super Rugby or Wallabies matches any more. It seems to be more bearable these days to just watch them on TV without the need to continue to stay watching on in frustration, cold and discomfort, thinking “I paid to see this! What an idiot I am”. If the match is terrible, I just turn off the TV and go do something else. Mind you, a good rugby (union) match I feel still outranks a good League match for viewing spectacle and depth of involvement, as all the subtleties of the play are on show.
@@BigAl53750 Amen! League all the way, as you say, for viewing it's just a far smoother running game while losing none of the impact or strategy 'cos the main open aspects of play remain virtually the same as Union. Union seems far more dangerous with it's set pieces and while purported to be 'free-flowing' with the 'continuous play' of the contested tackles, the repeated mass of bodies flailing about in the rucks tackle after tackle forever & a day just slows the whole thing down.
When I moved into my first student accommodation at London University, I spotted a pair of rugby boots on the mantelpiece. I thought they'd paired me with a fellow rugby-mad Welshman, but i was pleasantly surprised to find that my room-mate was an exchange student from Tulane, an American called Tom Jefferson - no kidding! - from St Louis. He was clearly a huge rugby fan, and played it at college. Now, it was pretty normal back in Wales for us to walk to a rival school to play a match, but Tom told me that rugby was so rare in the US that he and his team would often catch a plane to play a game against a rival college. That's what I call dedication!
Rugby isn't that rare here in the States. If they are getting on a plane for a match it's because they want to play that team in particular for some reason or perhaps they made it into the playoffs. There are problems with the way our collegiate are organized. USARFU has abrogated all responsibility for it so the schools had to organize themselves. The result was chaos. We now have three separate leagues with each having their own season. You might think that would make sense to divide into geographic locations but that's not how it's divided. Teams can be in the same city and in seperate leagues and forbidden to play each other. it's a nightmare.
@@ftumschk Oh, mid to late '80s. I was coaching collegiate rugby at that time. We were playing two 12 game seasons a year and the farthest we had to go was a 3 hour drive. As I said, if they got on a plane it was something special and/or unnecessary. That was before USARFU quit overseeing their competitions.
An example of Medieval Football is played on Christmas Day and New Year's day every year in the town of Kirkwall in the Orkney islands in the north of Scotland. There's no limit to the side numbers, the sides are called the Uppies (Up-the-gates) and Doonies (Down-the gates}. The Uppies are trying to get the ball up to a point up the hill in the town, and the Doonies are trying to get the ball down to the harbour where it is thrown into the water. Doonie players dive in after it and the player who comes out with it in his hands gets to keep the ball. In this LONG video the Doonies win. I suggest to start it, have a couple of looks in the middle to see the steam coming off the scrum and then jump to the last section where they fight with it in the harbour. Mens Ba, Boxing Day 2022 th-cam.com/video/lo3a4G7kHj4/w-d-xo.html
If soccer has the most continuity and American football the most stop starts then rugby is between those two. Think about it as Noise vs Signal. In soccer you will have a lot of noise ie the ball going up and down the field ,losing possession ,etc but not always being rewarded for good play. In rugby you get less stop starts than American football and more signal or consequential moves that can result in points via kicks or tries than scoring in soccer. Rugby union is also an open ended game in that there arent 5 downs or plays but a more organic way of regaining possession. So rugby union combines continuity with many signal moves as well as being an open system sport which makes it a sweet intersection between the best of these footballing codes and my fave. Also in rugby union you can see the effects that scrums and collisions have in slowing the opponents down unlike soccer where the team that has the best plays doesn't necessarily materialise into a win
I'd add two key points. First, in both Rugby codes you can only hit the ball carrier, you cannot intentionally contact someone not in possession of the ball (so no US football blocking, basically). Also, in both Rugby codes, (this is touched on but not fully explained), while you can kick the ball and it can be recovered by an offensive player that player MUST have been onside - so behind the player when they made the initial kick, to legally recover the ball. Both important clarifications.
Or the kicker must then run past you, placing you onside and then you can accelerate back past the kicker to try to recapture the ball. Another interesting difference is that if you punt the ball in Rugby and you are ahead of your 22metre line and the ball goes directly out into touch (does not touch the ground in the playing field first) then a line out (throwing the ball back in with both teams lined up) happens at the same point from where it was kicked. If the ball bounces first then the line out is held at the point where it went into touch. If the team is inside their 22meter mark and they kick it out then the line out is help out the point it went out. Just another weird behaviour.
7s came out of practice for the backs to work on handling. A club in Scotland hosted a weekend festival of 7s back in the amateur days and it spread around the world and has been seen as good television with it being so quick and the games short so now it is professional game. The big difference is it is for the speed merchants not the power houses so there is less player contact contests.
I can confirm that being trapped under a ruck is not a pleasant experience. In a ruck, players are often trying to rake the ball out with their feet, and it's not uncommon for them to "accidentally" rake opposing players. In large rucks, it can be difficult for the ref to see what's going on in the whole ruck simultaneously.
Love how the video doesn't distinguish between men's vs women's rugby; there isn't any from a rules perspetive, so that's fair, but for people of my vintage a bit unusual.
7s is a mostly like Rugby Union, but the key differences are: - 7 a side, two halves of 7 minutes each - The scrum is more akin to Rugby League - The try conversion kick is a drop kick - that's why it's missed so often. Beyond that, the differences are relatively minor. The game is much faster because defence is thin on the ground. The last 2 minutes often cough up 2-3 tries, so the game is really not over until the very end. Exciting stuff! If you can watch the replays, the final (France vs Fiji), the bronze medal match (South Africa vs Australia), and the two semi-finals (Fiji vs Australia and France vs South Africa) are all worth rewatching. The latter especially, it was particularly fierce. This is the Men's games - I haven't caught up on the Women's games yet.
Not really about the topic but I would just like to say you are great! I love that you are so interested in everything ! and do so much searching and learning about it all ! I wish everyone would do the same I would guess there would be a lot less 'miss information out there if it was the case :) sending love and well wishes from OZ :)
Possibly the quickest way to distinguish the two used to be looking at the shirts. For decades, the majority of Rugby League shirts had a 'v' shape or design from the shoulders to the centre of the chest. In my view, this always made Union shirts with their collars and distinctive designs cooler! A generic rugby union shirt with collar is still a popular item of casual wear. In fact,the easiest way is, ' What happens when a ball carrier is tackled.'
My family has been a rugby union playing one since at least my great-grandfather. Now, my grandsons in QLD, in BC, and even in Kenya play. Notably, however, the six BC boys are now more drawn to lacrosse and my youngest son - at uni in England - has been playing this sport since prep school. His target is to play lacrosse at the LA Olympics, as his older brother ran at the Rio games. If possible, might you help out those of us unfamiliar with lacrosse - reportedly the fastest-growing team sport in North American high schools today - by doing a similar video to this one on one of the only two olympic sports which originate in North America? Lacrosse (originally stick-ball). Thx. ❤
good video. the only thing to add I have is that it is important to get near as poss to the goal with your touchdown as your attempt to convert will be adjacent to the point of touchdown and the straighter the kick the easier the extra points will be
The main point of scrums and line outs is to pull all the forwards 8 players on each side into one spot on the field thus weakening the defence of the opposition team and creating scoring opportunities, so the team being awarded the scrum or line out gains an advantage. This plays into the tactics used during the match, for example a team awarded a penalty has the option of kicking an easy goal netting them 3 points or kicking the ball out in order to gain an offensive line out opening up the chance for a try which is 5 points or 7 if converted so towards the end of the game the team behind in points will usually opt to go for the lineout and the team ahead will usually opt for the easy 3 points to extend their lead. Sometimes and more rarely a team will opt for a penalty scrum, this is normally done if it happens close to their try line and they feel that it is a better option to continue their attack if they feel the defence is close to breaking. The game might look messy to those unfamiliar but there are a lot of tacticlal things going on that might not be apparent
The USA Women's Rugby 7's team has improved dramatically since entering the World 7 Series. They also performed well at the current Olympic Competition in France.
My grandson who started Rugby League because of where my daughter lives in Manchester (Lancashire), anyway he got scouted by a professional Rugby union under 15s etc, So proud iam beaming writing this.
When a try (touch down) is scored you have to be in control of the ball when you touch it down. You can be held up, that is; when you try to touch the ball down the opposition gets his hand under the ball and prevents it from touching the ground, or you are physically held up and prevented from touching the ball down or, if the ball is spilled out of your hand before touching down so is 'lost forward in goal'. The opposition can restart the game from their try line with a drop kick after this happens. These are some of the rules regarding scoring a try and is the same for both union and league.
One thing he doesn't talk about that is also unique to Rugby Union is the maul. It's a very tactical element of the game, but is seen less often per game (and sometimes a whole game goes by without one) because it normally only sometimes happens as the first action after a lineout. I guess since he only wanted to touch on the main points of each code it's reasonable to leave out the maul. England vs NZ women's world cup final was an absolute banger, I hope you watch it.
i think most new comers to rugby get confused by maul. most of them think it's a scrum because of the similar formation. they don't see one guy standing in the middle holding the ball
There is also a common situation in Union called a 'maul', which was not mentioned. If a ball carrier is tackled but both players stay on their feet team-mates can join in on their respective sides to create a maul. Because the players are on their feet the maul can move if one side can get it moving forwards and score a try if it crosses the try line.This involves a lot of concerted pushing effort, and can be particularly draining for the defending team. Crowds love a good 'rolling maul'.
A great game to watch is "Frantic Semi - final action | USA vs Australia | LA HSBC SVNS - Full Match". The thing about this game is the American Cheer Squad. Your girls improved so quick on the World Stage and pretty soon no one will be able to beat them.
You asked about the "markers" in League at the play the ball. The play the ball used to be called the ruck , older folks still call it that, so the markers are the remnants from the Rugby Union days as the defenders who contest at the tackle. They can stay inside the 10 and tackle if a player comes near them. The rules used to allow them to strike at the ball with their feet when the ball was played but this has been eliminated. League markers and the League scrum are left overs from a different time and are not much use in the modern game ,or if you're more frank, basically nipples on a boar pig. Sevens Rugby is the same game but with less players and a shorter playing time. 7 players a side- 7 minutes a half
Loved this video and your reaction! Sevens (as we've just seen in the Olympics), is faster mainly because far fewer players have to defend the same full size pitch as the 15 v 15 game. You can add the "token" rugby league style scrums into the mix, so the ball is recycled way more quickly. The working class = rugby league ; middle class = union is a tad simplistic, since in Wales, the sport of Union is definitely rooted in working class. England predominantly middle class historically but great strides made in recent decades to shift that.
For two of the best games in Women's Rugby Sevens watch Brazil Olympics 2016 final and the Commonwealth Games 2018 final. Both of these games feature Australia and New Zealand, generally considered the two best teams in the world. Both games were very close and highlight the best of rugby 7s.
Rugby is our National Game in New Zealand...We play it in our backyard as kids, transfering to school rugby as your growing , to club rugby to provincial rugby and super rugby where our our All blacks are selected From. Rugby League is growing and we have recently toppled the Giants or Rugby League Australia. Rugby league top tier competiiton is played in Australia called the NRL and New Zealand only has one League team in that competition called the Warriors. NZ ALL BLACKS are 3 Times world Rugby world cup Winners
My late father used to play Rugby but not on a field or with a ball, they used to play it in the Sgts mess with a Cabbage, nutters. The offside rule also applies when they punt, sometimes not so obvious.
Yes Mess Rugby is an awesome game, but incredibly violent. Last time I played I got a split lip and a black eye. My opponent got their contact lenses pulled out or should I say smeared out. We had a huge regimental inspection the next day and the general inspecting us commented on my facial injuries and when I explained, he tapped me on the shoulder and said good man.
Mob football is still played in a couple of places in England, around Easter time. The most famous being the Atherton Ball Game. It can get very violent,. Atherstone.
There is also the Haxey Hood in North Lincolnshire. The hood in this case replaces a ball and it is played between two pubs so it always ends up in a pub.
That was a really nice explanation of the rules.. given that dude a sub, as I'm sure I will like his content. Oh, I nearly forgot to like your vid.. done ;)
Rugby 7s is the short form of union and 9s is the short form of league with this in mind there’s also the lesser known 10s which is also a short form of union.
10th of August - New Zealand vs Argentina & Australia vs South Africa. Both mens 15s side games. Its a tournament between these four southern hemisphere teams that's starting that day. Hope you enoy.
In Northern France we still have an old sport called "la choule" which looks very similar to mob football, usually the 2 teams were composed by single men against married ones and the field was the entire village, now the rules evolved a bit but it's nearly not played anymore except a few villages
There are a few other types of rugby alongside union, league and 7s, but they're not as widely known. One form that is very popular in Australia, New Zealand and the UK, but unlike union and league, is also very popular right across Europe and Asia, but is not widely publicised is Touch Rugby. It's not a brutal sport with big tackles, but it is very fast moving, very tactical and is good fun to play and watch. The world cup was held a few weeks ago featuring teams from Chile, China, the Cook Islands, Hong Kong, Papua New Guinea, Portugal, Singapore, USA, Sweden, Netherlands, Germany, Luxembourg, Phillipines, Oman, and many other countries (alongside the obvious ones). It's one of the few mixed team sports, where men and women can compete on the same team, and has age categories so that you can continue representing your country into your 50s. It's often disparaged by rugby union and league players, particularly those from the UK, because they think it's a sport for wimps who can't take tackles. The Aussies and Kiwis know different - quite a few high profile rugby union and league players in those countries have also represented their countries at touch rugby. It's a lot tougher of a game than these rugby players give it credit for. Every rugby player I've ever had turn up to play touch rugby has been surprised by just how fit you have to be to play as it is a sport that has no stoppages for scrums or lineouts. It is constant movement either forwards or backwards for two 20 minute halves.
Touch Rugby is a great recreational aerobic game but it can be pretty dull to watch and play. It'd be much more fun if it allowed the kicking game that's integral to League and particularly Union
MOST of the time if you catch a glimpse of a rugby game but unsure if it is Union or League and the teams have a 'V' coming down from the shoulders on the uniforms jersey it is a League game union will not have the V :)
Easiest way to tell the difference between league and union is watch after the tackle, league after the tackle they are allowed to pick and pass without interference and they get 5 tackles before a turn over, union after the the tackle both sides will cram players in to turn over the ball, there is not tackle count to turnover in union
Sevens was invented by a Scottish doctor who were having a tournament but only had 4 teams.so they played 7a side on a full size pitch. Usually 7minutes a half. It is an exhausting game
The tackler must make an attempt to wrap at least one arm around (or otherwise hold) the person being tackled for a tackle to be legal in either code of rugby. The type of bodychecking tackle often employed in American football would be illegal.
18:12 "What happens to the ones that fall by accident?" - They either have to get up and back 'on-side' ASAP or, if they can't, at least not interfere with play.
Rugby Sevens is a cut down version of Rugby Union. It is seven players a side and consists of two halves of seven minutes each, played on a full-sized pitch. Play follows the basic rules of rugby, but the only 'set piece' is the scrum; there are no lineouts. When a try is scored, the person who scored the takes the conversion as a drop goal. I played rugby sevens in the dim and distant past, which generally involved playing three or so games in a tournament day in flat out speed mode. They were fun, but compared to a full-on game, of two halves of 40 minutes, it was like a buffet of titbits rather than a full on three course meal. As a lifelong lover of rugby union I am a great fan, these days, of women's rugby and you can do worse than follow a women's game in the 2024 women's version of the annual Six Nations tournament. England vs Ireland is an example of a great, attacking, if one-sided game. England is the number one ranked team in the world, at present.
The main difference from the 15-a-side version is the need to control the ball, move it about fast and pull the opposition out of shape. Tries are everything, forget about penalties and field goals. By the way, kudos to those American women for their performance at Paris! Don't start bullying the rest of us, it's OUR game!!🙂🙂 BTW: "Nines" is a short version of Rugby LEAGUE and is hardly ever played internationally. In fact, outside of Australia, NZ and Britain, League has only a minor impact, and "World Cups" are full of "Nation of Birth or Descent" teams that just make up the numbers. the 3 countries I've mentioned are the only ones that count in this sport. Rugby UNION is the INTERNATIONAL game. PS" A clue to distingusihing which version you are watching (it's far more likely to be Union), is, if their are lineouts, it's Union; League doesn't have lineouts (nor rucks, real scrums, mauls) which is why it's a much less skilful game and basically Bash-and-Thud!
generally you can tell the difference what code ir is by the uniforms worn by players. historically Rugby League (the far superior of the 2 codes and also not boring to watch) has a large V from the shoulders and down the chest on the jersey worn by players and most club and country strips (uniforms) will have some kind of variation of this V to this day whereas Rugby Union (the much much more boring code) does not incorporate this in the uniform
The markers CAN tackle any opposing player that receives the ball AFTER it has been played backwards by the tackled player. There are some conditions; each of the two MUST be ‘square’ at the time the ball is ‘played’ by the tackled player. This means that they must be directly in line with the two players in the ‘play the ball’. The rest of the defending team must be at least 10 meters back from the play the ball. Rugby Union can be fun, but there’s no doubt that Rugby League is a faster moving, higher scoring game. The best games this guy puts forward are now dated and there are better examples of each. The best Rugby Union game imho, is the World cup game between South Africa and Japan. Easily the best because the Japanese were half the size and weight of the South Africans, who were ranked 3rd best in the world, whilst Japan was around 16th. They showed so much spirit though, that South African supporters were cheering them on. Absolutely fabulous game. I guiarantee you will be enthralled. The best Rugby League game for me would be the Grand Final in the 2023 season, between the Brisbane Broncos and the Penrith Panthers.
I remember being scared when it was time for rugby at school. Luckily my best friend was the biggest and best at it so my strategy tended to revolve around passing the ball to him as soon as possible.
Okay so in league the markers on defence after the play of a ball can engage the attacking team but they need to have made it to their positions in time or else they will be penalised. In the current form of the game this usually earns the attacking team a repeat set of 6 tackles. This rule is exploited by the attacking team trying to play the ball fast and catching the defenders out of position
When he talks about the ruck he didn't mention raking, it's pretty brutal, not always on purpose but sometimes definitely is and can result in a red card.
They still play the OG ball games in a few places. Georgia have a game called Lelo, where villages just scrum for a ball, to push it about the village. The UK has the Atherstone ball game, the only rules really are, try not to kill anyone. Serious injury is normal. People should stick to cheese rolling i say.
Being at the bottom of a ruck is generally no fun, although playing in the back row it was kinda my job to be there. Back when I played you were allowed to use your feet to 'ruck' opposition players away from the ball, i.e. put your foot on them and rake them with your studs to drag them out (or at least dissuade them from being in the way at the next ruck). My back ended up looking like I'd been flogged every week. Happy days. At least that's what I keep telling myself.
I saw a rugby league (match? game?) many years ago. Do they still use the bucket of sand as a kicking tee to attempt a field goal? I see rugby union (especially rugby seven) more often played on TV.
What wasn’t mentioned was that any conversion (PAT) has to be kicked from in line to where the ball was touched down - so you score a try just inbounds then you’re going to be kicking from the very edge of the field. I don’t think he really mentioned there’s no offence or defence either - it’s the same players playing most of the entire 80 minutes with a very small number of substitutions (similar to football / soccer).
That was like a knife to the heart when you said you prefer rugby union lol. :( The video is a bit off the mark with the origin story, rugby union players didn't used to get payment, and the union took the huge gate takings. Which wasn't a problem by itself, but when players were injured, they were unable to return to their regular job during the week, and the rugby union refused to offer them any compensation. If a player broke a leg, they'd be in huge trouble with their job - particularly in the north of England where rugby league started, and a lot of players worked as miners. So players decided to create their own "league" which was the start of rugby league in 1895. And since rugby league was now paying players they adjusted the rules to make their sport more entertaining and therefore attract more spectators. I'd say aspects of that class divide exist to today, in New Zealand where I live schools were recently in the news for putting pressure on kids not to play rugby league.
The play the ball in Rugby League after the player is tackled used to be a 2 person scum so once the player tackled got up and the the ball touched the ground to play it the markers could hook the ball backwards or kick the ball and the scrums used to be contested ie the pushed in the scrum. Both were stopped to speed the game up. Russell Crowe does the rules of Rugby League for the Australian National Rugby League coming to the USA in early 2024. He is also part owner of the (NRL) South Sydney Rabbitos. The rules of Rugby League has changed to make it a much faster game than Rugby Union and the players alot more aerobically fitter. Oh the comments 1800's the players wanted to be paid was because they would have to for go work and pay to play so they wanted to be paid so they didn't lose money and there is only a half a dozen or so contries that play Rugby Union that don't play Rugby League. If you want a good Rugby League game to watch game 3 State of Origin. State of Origin is were the NRL pick a Representative side were the players first played 1st grade rugby league either Queensland or New South Wales and they play 3 game and the Australian Team is picked from that. In that game one player for New South Wales scored a try he normally plays for the Newcastle Knights and to do it he had to get around 2 players on the Queensland team the normally play for the Newcastle Knights. So it's mate against mate and State against State.
at the end of each game it is also customary to congratulate the other team by saying 'tally-pip, jolly good rugger' and then patting one another strenuously on the buttocks. at least that is how i was taught
Ok I've just watched few for your vids. Your rugby IQ is much higer than most reactions vids. The only thing i will say is : Rugby doesn't actually have rules, we call them laws.
It feels like when explaining the rules (or laws) of rugby, every explanation needs an asterisk or 2 next to it with a ton of exceptions and clarifications in the footnotes, and I say that as someone who has followed rugby for years 😅
i really don't care about Rugby OR football, i just come to see you smile and your amazing input and reaction to any topic, love this channel :3 Greetings from the Netherlands
You should be able to differentiate between League and Union within thirty seconds, jus by the lack of density and the sort of namby pamby style of league, Union is 80 minutes of massive creatures crashing into each other
If you've fallen to the floor in a ruck then you have to attempt get out of the way of the active players. If you can not get out of the way you are to make yourself small (and protected) and remain still.
If you want to watch a compilation of a specific player, I'd suggest Dan Carter. Arguably the GOAT of rugby union, and played a position most similar to the quarterback in American football, so you'll see a wide range of skills (running, passing, kicking, offloads etc) - hes also scored more points in international matches than any other player in history
Yep Carter is one of the best., though I'm biased. So many good highlights of players (Lomu obviously) though. B Barrett, C Cullen, B Habana, B O'Driscoll, D Campese, ok the list can go on and on!
Since you're showing a preference for Union (the thinking persons game) you should know that proper rugby union fans way of figuring out which code you are watching is to count the legs and divide by two! ;-P
They have tried cross-over matches where the teams played each other under the others rules, When the Union rules were used it was easy for the Union teams to dominate in the scrum and lineouts as these are so technical, but in both codes, once the ball was out in the open, the League teams dominated with better running angles, so much so that Union started recruiting League players and coaches for their teams. The very best League teams also started being invited into Union 7's tournaments and usually won. Prior to Union becoming (officially) professional, a number of Union players crossed over to play League, never allowed back! League made a massive mistake in not pushing the sport worldwide, especially in the States where the simularity to American Football would have helped it take off. Exhibition matches were always played on pitches that were too small and ended up being dour, defensive affairs. One thing definitely in League's favour, the ball is in play far more in League than Union. Personally I prefer League, although internationally Union is a much better watch than international League.
That was in the mid 90's when Union was about to go professional. There was a big gap in training and conditioning then. Wigan was invited and able to win a union 7s tournament. Could never happen now as the Union guys receive professional training and on average are heavier than their League counterparts
@@PjRjHj Saying it "Could never happen now" is ridiculous, and Wigan weren't the only League team to win a Union 7's tournament. Weight doesn't really help much in 7's, does it? For a start, although the Union boys were officially "Amateur", they got plenty in expenses that made that a lie, especially for the Southern Hemisphere teams. One of the reasons the Union authorities finally saw sense and allowed the players to be paid as professionals. Why do you think so many of the top players and coaches from League were recruited by Union International and club sides? It was because of their brilliant offensive and defensive skills, in the backs especially.
I didn't get into the starts of the Olympics, as i was watching the full days of the mens and womens rugby. Uniform? Most of us don't get paid to play. It's just a kit (Just saying what i call it, not saying to change)
Basically American Football is Rugby with all the fun taken out :) You just can't beat clattering someone in Rugby. For a nation that's generally so literal, your sports defy logic - American Football is predominantly played with your hands and a touchdown doesn't require you to touch the ball on the ground.
The is still one game of mob football played annually in Atherstone, England on Shrove Tuesday,it interesting to watch ,its brutal and anarchic ,with few rules ,its definately not football,its one the ridiculous ways the British amuse themselves, like chasing a wheel of cheese down a hill ,you will find videos on You Tube of the Ball Game ❤❤
I'm interested to learn why American Football changed away from Rugby so much. I just think it's a mistake in general, in terms of cutting the US off from the sports played everywhere else in the world, and not getting to compete in international tournaments for it much.
Grew up playing union in NZ, played league in OZ at high school. Heaps of injuries in league. Dislocated shoulder and broken clavicle.. among my others. We played differently in the 80's in RL a scrum was actually a real scrum, seriously competed for the pill.
Can I suggest that now you've had the basic rules explained, don't watch the games recommended. Instead, first watch a grassroots (Kiwi term for local club as opposed to a regional team) game first so yo can see what can go wrong for a team in a game. Then watch an international game (say All blacks v Springboks). You'll know mostly what can go wrong by then, which will give you a good grasp of the skills the better players have. As with all armchair sportspeople, you're gonna need beer, salty snacks, and anything else unhealthy you can find.
I just played a 7s tournament last weekend for the first time in 12 years since my last match. It was my 35th birthday and today I feel about 75.
No worries mate, it gets a lot easier in your 50's☝🏻😂🖕🏻
@@horsefootrot5654 Much respect to you if you're running on in your 50s but you can have it mate. F that, I'm still licking my wounds from last weekend.
@@goodshipkaraboudjan I'm kinda small, lean, and still agile but gas out rather quickly mate. More worried about twisting an ankle nowadays.
But here Cambodia I work and play with some young Staffas, gotta give them the goods. Keep the young fellas in check☝🏻😂😂
Edit: but yeah the stiffness can be a bother. But I teach some of the lads kick boxing so gotta shrug it off at some point😂😂
Fortunately a lot of the expats drink hard. I don't so that helps.
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@@horsefootrot5654 Haha yep played a lot of club in Australia then moved to Hong Kong and kept it up, the pub training sessions don't help. I had fun but don't know what was worse, being gassed after a few minutes, taking a few big knocks or the missus taking the piss out of me on the drive home after I'd spent the drive there regaling her with war stories of my glory days. It was only suburban level stuff but I'll give it another crack if they'll have me back.
I played both Rugby codes - hate League, and loved Union. I loved the fact the ball was live and contested after a tackle, and loved the ruck - if the tackle remains on their feet, it is called a Maul. A rolling maul is when one side can shove the whole thing towards the "enemy" goal. Best of fun!
"I think I like the rules for rugby union a bit better".... my heart melted. :-)
League is so much more subtle , gentle and promote peace and love ....Go Roosters !!!!
@@sparkyfromelSubtle? Bland and predictable are the terms that I would use.
@@rikanishi honestly I like the pace of rugby alot more... I've played both... I quit american football at 12 after hospitizing another player...
@@sparkyfromel hahahaha yeah right. Remember when league actually had real scrums? Back when Ray Price was a monster.
Michael O'Connor was carving it up. Both ex Wallabies 🤔
@@DeepThought9999bit like yourself .
You might enjoy the book "Unseen Academicals"by Terry Pratchett. It covers a fantasy version of the original chaotic soccer being civilised, and the descriptions of the games and people's attitudes towards it are drawn heavily from the history, but with a comedic fantasy twist.
The name Rugby comes from the town of the same name in England, where as he explained, the first set of accepted rules were devised. In my opinion, if you have 'grown up' playing and watching one code, you will have little or no love for the other. I am a fan of the best... Rugby Union!
To be precise, the sport is NOT named after the town of Rugby. It is named after Rugby School, where a rudimentary form of the eponyomous game was first recorded. The school was founded during the reign of Elizabeth I.
BS! I grew up in NZ, the land of the All Blacks and played Union into my 20’s, but in recent years, I have become so P___D off with the ridiculous amount of time wasting penalties and other BS that has ruined the game, that I prefer League, as it is closer to the free flowing, running, game that I enjoyed in my youth.
Rugby Union today is just a series of mauls and scrums, punctuated by penalty goals resulting from one of the hundred or more scrum infringements invented by the idiots that govern international Rugby. When I played, in the 70’s, if you turned the scrum, YOU were penalised, but now, it’s the other way around! Sometimes! (the glaring inconsistency in how most of these rules are adjudicated is another bugbear of mine!)
In the 70’s, if you lifted someone in the lineout, YOU were penalised, but now, it’s allowed, yet a player who tips the out of balance lifted player so that they land on their head is penalised! How the idiots mentioned before DON’T seem to realise that lifting a player two or more metres into the air is BOUND to make it likely that they will get seriously hurt, is beyond me. Lifting was not allowed once upon a time, because it was deemed unfair and unsafe. Make it that way again, and we will see less head, neck, and spinal injuries, as well as less send-offs, penalties, etc. One other thing that was not allowed was any movement of players in the lineout once it had formed, so there was none of this scrambling around, untyil the ball had been taken by one of the players on either team. Then you could form a maul, but not until then. There was also none of this bloody annoying practice of the Referee giving a lesson in how to set the scrum, either. At least 90 % of Scrum failures come from the ludicrous amount of time the Referees make the two sides try to hold the weight of their packs and then allow them to crash into each other, with the whole; Bind, Crouch, Set, process (or whatever it is). It is ridiculous and invariably wastes at least 5 minutes every time a scrum is called and then more often than not results in a penalty. I never though I’d say this, but I really cannot be bothered watching Rugby Union most of the time, as it’s too frustrating. I grew up in the days of the fast wingers and a free-flowing game with passing the ball, rather than one pass, then crash into the opposition, which results in a ruck, then another pass another crash another ruck, etc. nobody seems able to string more than two passes together anymore and the Referees seem to be incapable of letting the game flow.
I prefer League these days. The players are MUCH fitter and the game is a far better spectator experience.
@@BigAl53750Crouch, bind, set (or sit when called by New Zealand referees). ;-). Australian here, if you haven’t already guessed. I am still a reasonably keen Rugby (Union) viewer but I feel your frustrations. I no longer go and view multiple grades of Shute Shield matches played by my local team (Gordon in Sydney) every winter weekend as I used to do, nor do I spend money to attend local Super Rugby or Wallabies matches any more. It seems to be more bearable these days to just watch them on TV without the need to continue to stay watching on in frustration, cold and discomfort, thinking “I paid to see this! What an idiot I am”. If the match is terrible, I just turn off the TV and go do something else. Mind you, a good rugby (union) match I feel still outranks a good League match for viewing spectacle and depth of involvement, as all the subtleties of the play are on show.
@@BigAl53750 Amen! League all the way, as you say, for viewing it's just a far smoother running game while losing none of the impact or strategy 'cos the main open aspects of play remain virtually the same as Union. Union seems far more dangerous with it's set pieces and while purported to be 'free-flowing' with the 'continuous play' of the contested tackles, the repeated mass of bodies flailing about in the rucks tackle after tackle forever & a day just slows the whole thing down.
@@t.a.k.palfrey3882yeah thanks captain pedantic
When I moved into my first student accommodation at London University, I spotted a pair of rugby boots on the mantelpiece. I thought they'd paired me with a fellow rugby-mad Welshman, but i was pleasantly surprised to find that my room-mate was an exchange student from Tulane, an American called Tom Jefferson - no kidding! - from St Louis. He was clearly a huge rugby fan, and played it at college.
Now, it was pretty normal back in Wales for us to walk to a rival school to play a match, but Tom told me that rugby was so rare in the US that he and his team would often catch a plane to play a game against a rival college. That's what I call dedication!
Rugby isn't that rare here in the States.
If they are getting on a plane for a match it's because they want to play that team in particular for some reason or perhaps they made it into the playoffs.
There are problems with the way our collegiate are organized. USARFU has abrogated all responsibility for it so the schools had to organize themselves.
The result was chaos. We now have three separate leagues with each having their own season. You might think that would make sense to divide into geographic locations but that's not how it's divided. Teams can be in the same city and in seperate leagues and forbidden to play each other.
it's a nightmare.
@@rittherugger160 I'm talking about the early/mid 1980s, by the way.
@@ftumschk Oh, mid to late '80s. I was coaching collegiate rugby at that time. We were playing two 12 game seasons a year and the farthest we had to go was a 3 hour drive.
As I said, if they got on a plane it was something special and/or unnecessary.
That was before USARFU quit overseeing their competitions.
An example of Medieval Football is played on Christmas Day and New Year's day every year in the town of Kirkwall in the Orkney islands in the north of Scotland. There's no limit to the side numbers, the sides are called the Uppies (Up-the-gates) and Doonies (Down-the gates}. The Uppies are trying to get the ball up to a point up the hill in the town, and the Doonies are trying to get the ball down to the harbour where it is thrown into the water. Doonie players dive in after it and the player who comes out with it in his hands gets to keep the ball. In this LONG video the Doonies win. I suggest to start it, have a couple of looks in the middle to see the steam coming off the scrum and then jump to the last section where they fight with it in the harbour. Mens Ba, Boxing Day 2022 th-cam.com/video/lo3a4G7kHj4/w-d-xo.html
If soccer has the most continuity and American football the most stop starts then rugby is between those two.
Think about it as Noise vs Signal. In soccer you will have a lot of noise ie the ball going up and down the field ,losing possession ,etc but not always being rewarded for good play. In rugby you get less stop starts than American football and more signal or consequential moves that can result in points via kicks or tries than scoring in soccer. Rugby union is also an open ended game in that there arent 5 downs or plays but a more organic way of regaining possession.
So rugby union combines continuity with many signal moves as well as being an open system sport which makes it a sweet intersection between the best of these footballing codes and my fave. Also in rugby union you can see the effects that scrums and collisions have in slowing the opponents down unlike soccer where the team that has the best plays doesn't necessarily materialise into a win
I'd add two key points. First, in both Rugby codes you can only hit the ball carrier, you cannot intentionally contact someone not in possession of the ball (so no US football blocking, basically). Also, in both Rugby codes, (this is touched on but not fully explained), while you can kick the ball and it can be recovered by an offensive player that player MUST have been onside - so behind the player when they made the initial kick, to legally recover the ball. Both important clarifications.
Or the kicker must then run past you, placing you onside and then you can accelerate back past the kicker to try to recapture the ball. Another interesting difference is that if you punt the ball in Rugby and you are ahead of your 22metre line and the ball goes directly out into touch (does not touch the ground in the playing field first) then a line out (throwing the ball back in with both teams lined up) happens at the same point from where it was kicked. If the ball bounces first then the line out is held at the point where it went into touch. If the team is inside their 22meter mark and they kick it out then the line out is help out the point it went out. Just another weird behaviour.
7s came out of practice for the backs to work on handling. A club in Scotland hosted a weekend festival of 7s back in the amateur days and it spread around the world and has been seen as good television with it being so quick and the games short so now it is professional game. The big difference is it is for the speed merchants not the power houses so there is less player contact contests.
I can confirm that being trapped under a ruck is not a pleasant experience. In a ruck, players are often trying to rake the ball out with their feet, and it's not uncommon for them to "accidentally" rake opposing players. In large rucks, it can be difficult for the ref to see what's going on in the whole ruck simultaneously.
Hahahaha I remember playing in the 70's when we had steel sprigs. Rucks sucked!!
Remember, playing for my high school in the 70s rucks sucked then plenty of stud tracks down my back. Would I do it again? Hell yes.
Love how the video doesn't distinguish between men's vs women's rugby; there isn't any from a rules perspetive, so that's fair, but for people of my vintage a bit unusual.
Young lady, I love that you will react to just about anything and everything!!!!
7s is a mostly like Rugby Union, but the key differences are:
- 7 a side, two halves of 7 minutes each
- The scrum is more akin to Rugby League
- The try conversion kick is a drop kick - that's why it's missed so often.
Beyond that, the differences are relatively minor. The game is much faster because defence is thin on the ground. The last 2 minutes often cough up 2-3 tries, so the game is really not over until the very end. Exciting stuff!
If you can watch the replays, the final (France vs Fiji), the bronze medal match (South Africa vs Australia), and the two semi-finals (Fiji vs Australia and France vs South Africa) are all worth rewatching. The latter especially, it was particularly fierce. This is the Men's games - I haven't caught up on the Women's games yet.
Not really about the topic but I would just like to say you are great!
I love that you are so interested in everything ! and do so much searching and learning about it all ! I wish everyone would do the same I would guess there would be a lot less 'miss information out there if it was the case :)
sending love and well wishes from OZ :)
I need rugby explained for people who need American football explained
th-cam.com/video/FOJejnPI0p0/w-d-xo.html
That's probably your best bet.
Possibly the quickest way to distinguish the two used to be looking at the shirts. For decades, the majority of Rugby League shirts had a 'v' shape or design from the shoulders to the centre of the chest. In my view, this always made Union shirts with their collars and distinctive designs cooler! A generic rugby union shirt with collar is still a popular item of casual wear.
In fact,the easiest way is, ' What happens when a ball carrier is tackled.'
My family has been a rugby union playing one since at least my great-grandfather. Now, my grandsons in QLD, in BC, and even in Kenya play. Notably, however, the six BC boys are now more drawn to lacrosse and my youngest son - at uni in England - has been playing this sport since prep school. His target is to play lacrosse at the LA Olympics, as his older brother ran at the Rio games. If possible, might you help out those of us unfamiliar with lacrosse - reportedly the fastest-growing team sport in North American high schools today - by doing a similar video to this one on one of the only two olympic sports which originate in North America? Lacrosse (originally stick-ball). Thx. ❤
F lacrosse 😂😂 who tf playing that mate
Excellent presentation. Interesting seeing how far all these games have developed over the many years of history.
good video. the only thing to add I have is that it is important to get near as poss to the goal with your touchdown as your attempt to convert will be adjacent to the point of touchdown and the straighter the kick the easier the extra points will be
The main point of scrums and line outs is to pull all the forwards 8 players on each side into one spot on the field thus weakening the defence of the opposition team and creating scoring opportunities, so the team being awarded the scrum or line out gains an advantage. This plays into the tactics used during the match, for example a team awarded a penalty has the option of kicking an easy goal netting them 3 points or kicking the ball out in order to gain an offensive line out opening up the chance for a try which is 5 points or 7 if converted so towards the end of the game the team behind in points will usually opt to go for the lineout and the team ahead will usually opt for the easy 3 points to extend their lead. Sometimes and more rarely a team will opt for a penalty scrum, this is normally done if it happens close to their try line and they feel that it is a better option to continue their attack if they feel the defence is close to breaking. The game might look messy to those unfamiliar but there are a lot of tacticlal things going on that might not be apparent
The USA Women's Rugby 7's team has improved dramatically since entering the World 7 Series. They also performed well at the current Olympic Competition in France.
My grandson who started Rugby League because of where my daughter lives in Manchester (Lancashire), anyway he got scouted by a professional Rugby union under 15s etc,
So proud iam beaming writing this.
i hope we see him in england colors. ✌
When a try (touch down) is scored you have to be in control of the ball when you touch it down. You can be held up, that is; when you try to touch the ball down the opposition gets his hand under the ball and prevents it from touching the ground, or you are physically held up and prevented from touching the ball down or, if the ball is spilled out of your hand before touching down so is 'lost forward in goal'. The opposition can restart the game from their try line with a drop kick after this happens. These are some of the rules regarding scoring a try and is the same for both union and league.
One thing he doesn't talk about that is also unique to Rugby Union is the maul. It's a very tactical element of the game, but is seen less often per game (and sometimes a whole game goes by without one) because it normally only sometimes happens as the first action after a lineout. I guess since he only wanted to touch on the main points of each code it's reasonable to leave out the maul. England vs NZ women's world cup final was an absolute banger, I hope you watch it.
i think most new comers to rugby get confused by maul. most of them think it's a scrum because of the similar formation. they don't see one guy standing in the middle holding the ball
There is also a common situation in Union called a 'maul', which was not mentioned. If a ball carrier is tackled but both players stay on their feet team-mates can join in on their respective sides to create a maul. Because the players are on their feet the maul can move if one side can get it moving forwards and score a try if it crosses the try line.This involves a lot of concerted pushing effort, and can be particularly draining for the defending team. Crowds love a good 'rolling maul'.
As a child I used to refer to the ruck as stacks on the mill, which was a game played in schools, that has naturally been banned.
A great game to watch is "Frantic Semi - final action | USA vs Australia | LA HSBC SVNS - Full Match". The thing about this game is the American Cheer Squad. Your girls improved so quick on the World Stage and pretty soon no one will be able to beat them.
You asked about the "markers" in League at the play the ball. The play the ball used to be called the ruck , older folks still call it that, so the markers are the remnants from the Rugby Union days as the defenders who contest at the tackle. They can stay inside the 10 and tackle if a player comes near them. The rules used to allow them to strike at the ball with their feet when the ball was played but this has been eliminated. League markers and the League scrum are left overs from a different time and are not much use in the modern game ,or if you're more frank, basically nipples on a boar pig.
Sevens Rugby is the same game but with less players and a shorter playing time. 7 players a side- 7 minutes a half
Loved this video and your reaction! Sevens (as we've just seen in the Olympics), is faster mainly because far fewer players have to defend the same full size pitch as the 15 v 15 game. You can add the "token" rugby league style scrums into the mix, so the ball is recycled way more quickly. The working class = rugby league ; middle class = union is a tad simplistic, since in Wales, the sport of Union is definitely rooted in working class. England predominantly middle class historically but great strides made in recent decades to shift that.
For two of the best games in Women's Rugby Sevens watch Brazil Olympics 2016 final and the Commonwealth Games 2018 final. Both of these games feature Australia and New Zealand, generally considered the two best teams in the world. Both games were very close and highlight the best of rugby 7s.
Rugby is our National Game in New Zealand...We play it in our backyard as kids, transfering to school rugby as your growing , to club rugby to provincial rugby and super rugby where our our All blacks are selected From. Rugby League is growing and we have recently toppled the Giants or Rugby League Australia. Rugby league top tier competiiton is played in Australia called the NRL and New Zealand only has one League team in that competition called the Warriors.
NZ ALL BLACKS are 3 Times world Rugby world cup Winners
My late father used to play Rugby but not on a field or with a ball, they used to play it in the Sgts mess with a Cabbage, nutters. The offside rule also applies when they punt, sometimes not so obvious.
Yes Mess Rugby is an awesome game, but incredibly violent. Last time I played I got a split lip and a black eye. My opponent got their contact lenses pulled out or should I say smeared out. We had a huge regimental inspection the next day and the general inspecting us commented on my facial injuries and when I explained, he tapped me on the shoulder and said good man.
Mob football is still played in a couple of places in England, around Easter time.
The most famous being the Atherton Ball Game. It can get very violent,.
Atherstone.
There is also the Haxey Hood in North Lincolnshire. The hood in this case replaces a ball and it is played between two pubs so it always ends up in a pub.
Don't forget the royal shrovtide football game played in Ashbourne, Derbyshire, which is played over 2 days.
That was a really nice explanation of the rules.. given that dude a sub, as I'm sure I will like his content.
Oh, I nearly forgot to like your vid.. done ;)
The ABs match against Fiji at Snapdragon Stadium in San Diego a couple of weeks ago would've been a great introduction to Rugby Union.
Rugby 7s is the short form of union and 9s is the short form of league with this in mind there’s also the lesser known 10s which is also a short form of union.
10th of August - New Zealand vs Argentina & Australia vs South Africa. Both mens 15s side games. Its a tournament between these four southern hemisphere teams that's starting that day. Hope you enoy.
In Northern France we still have an old sport called "la choule" which looks very similar to mob football, usually the 2 teams were composed by single men against married ones and the field was the entire village, now the rules evolved a bit but it's nearly not played anymore except a few villages
There are a few other types of rugby alongside union, league and 7s, but they're not as widely known. One form that is very popular in Australia, New Zealand and the UK, but unlike union and league, is also very popular right across Europe and Asia, but is not widely publicised is Touch Rugby. It's not a brutal sport with big tackles, but it is very fast moving, very tactical and is good fun to play and watch. The world cup was held a few weeks ago featuring teams from Chile, China, the Cook Islands, Hong Kong, Papua New Guinea, Portugal, Singapore, USA, Sweden, Netherlands, Germany, Luxembourg, Phillipines, Oman, and many other countries (alongside the obvious ones). It's one of the few mixed team sports, where men and women can compete on the same team, and has age categories so that you can continue representing your country into your 50s.
It's often disparaged by rugby union and league players, particularly those from the UK, because they think it's a sport for wimps who can't take tackles. The Aussies and Kiwis know different - quite a few high profile rugby union and league players in those countries have also represented their countries at touch rugby. It's a lot tougher of a game than these rugby players give it credit for. Every rugby player I've ever had turn up to play touch rugby has been surprised by just how fit you have to be to play as it is a sport that has no stoppages for scrums or lineouts. It is constant movement either forwards or backwards for two 20 minute halves.
Touch Rugby is a great recreational aerobic game but it can be pretty dull to watch and play.
It'd be much more fun if it allowed the kicking game that's integral to League and particularly Union
@@PjRjHj Kicking would completely ruin the game.
MOST of the time if you catch a glimpse of a rugby game but unsure if it is Union or League and the teams have a 'V' coming down from the shoulders on the uniforms jersey it is a League game union will not have the V :)
Easiest way to tell the difference between league and union is watch after the tackle, league after the tackle they are allowed to pick and pass without interference and they get 5 tackles before a turn over, union after the the tackle both sides will cram players in to turn over the ball, there is not tackle count to turnover in union
In the first minute I increased my knowledge of rugby 100%
@@vblake530530 100% of nothing is… nothing. Hope you had something to start with. 🤗😅
Sevens was invented by a Scottish doctor who were having a tournament but only had 4 teams.so they played 7a side on a full size pitch. Usually 7minutes a half.
It is an exhausting game
The tackler must make an attempt to wrap at least one arm around (or otherwise hold) the person being tackled for a tackle to be legal in either code of rugby. The type of bodychecking tackle often employed in American football would be illegal.
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18:12 "What happens to the ones that fall by accident?" - They either have to get up and back 'on-side' ASAP or, if they can't, at least not interfere with play.
they have to get back up and be onside to be able to help out with continued play
Rugby Sevens is a cut down version of Rugby Union. It is seven players a side and consists of two halves of seven minutes each, played on a full-sized pitch. Play follows the basic rules of rugby, but the only 'set piece' is the scrum; there are no lineouts. When a try is scored, the person who scored the takes the conversion as a drop goal.
I played rugby sevens in the dim and distant past, which generally involved playing three or so games in a tournament day in flat out speed mode. They were fun, but compared to a full-on game, of two halves of 40 minutes, it was like a buffet of titbits rather than a full on three course meal.
As a lifelong lover of rugby union I am a great fan, these days, of women's rugby and you can do worse than follow a women's game in the 2024 women's version of the annual Six Nations tournament. England vs Ireland is an example of a great, attacking, if one-sided game.
England is the number one ranked team in the world, at present.
Have you ever watched Australian Rules football ? It's a crazy fun game to watch
The main difference from the 15-a-side version is the need to control the ball, move it about fast and pull the opposition out of shape. Tries are everything, forget about penalties and field goals. By the way, kudos to those American women for their performance at Paris! Don't start bullying the rest of us, it's OUR game!!🙂🙂 BTW: "Nines" is a short version of Rugby LEAGUE and is hardly ever played internationally. In fact, outside of Australia, NZ and Britain, League has only a minor impact, and "World Cups" are full of "Nation of Birth or Descent" teams that just make up the numbers. the 3 countries I've mentioned are the only ones that count in this sport. Rugby UNION is the INTERNATIONAL game. PS" A clue to distingusihing which version you are watching (it's far more likely to be Union), is, if their are lineouts, it's Union; League doesn't have lineouts (nor rucks, real scrums, mauls) which is why it's a much less skilful game and basically Bash-and-Thud!
generally you can tell the difference what code ir is by the uniforms worn by players. historically Rugby League (the far superior of the 2 codes and also not boring to watch) has a large V from the shoulders and down the chest on the jersey worn by players and most club and country strips (uniforms) will have some kind of variation of this V to this day whereas Rugby Union (the much much more boring code) does not incorporate this in the uniform
The markers CAN tackle any opposing player that receives the ball AFTER it has been played backwards by the tackled player. There are some conditions; each of the two MUST be ‘square’ at the time the ball is ‘played’ by the tackled player. This means that they must be directly in line with the two players in the ‘play the ball’. The rest of the defending team must be at least 10 meters back from the play the ball. Rugby Union can be fun, but there’s no doubt that Rugby League is a faster moving, higher scoring game.
The best games this guy puts forward are now dated and there are better examples of each.
The best Rugby Union game imho, is the World cup game between South Africa and Japan. Easily the best because the Japanese were half the size and weight of the South Africans, who were ranked 3rd best in the world, whilst Japan was around 16th. They showed so much spirit though, that South African supporters were cheering them on. Absolutely fabulous game. I guiarantee you will be enthralled.
The best Rugby League game for me would be the Grand Final in the 2023 season, between the Brisbane Broncos and the Penrith Panthers.
“Almost always through--VIOLENCE
I remember being scared when it was time for rugby at school.
Luckily my best friend was the biggest and best at it so my strategy tended to revolve around passing the ball to him as soon as possible.
It’s a good strategy though lol
Okay so in league the markers on defence after the play of a ball can engage the attacking team but they need to have made it to their positions in time or else they will be penalised. In the current form of the game this usually earns the attacking team a repeat set of 6 tackles. This rule is exploited by the attacking team trying to play the ball fast and catching the defenders out of position
What the Atherton Ball Game. Ancient and destructive...
When he talks about the ruck he didn't mention raking, it's pretty brutal, not always on purpose but sometimes definitely is and can result in a red card.
They still play the OG ball games in a few places. Georgia have a game called Lelo, where villages just scrum for a ball, to push it about the village. The UK has the Atherstone ball game, the only rules really are, try not to kill anyone. Serious injury is normal. People should stick to cheese rolling i say.
Or conkers!!!
Being at the bottom of a ruck back in the day was brutal. Raking used to be legal. Your thighs would end up black, blue, and bloody.
Yes. I also remember playing in the front row more than once. That was hell!
Being at the bottom of a ruck is generally no fun, although playing in the back row it was kinda my job to be there. Back when I played you were allowed to use your feet to 'ruck' opposition players away from the ball, i.e. put your foot on them and rake them with your studs to drag them out (or at least dissuade them from being in the way at the next ruck). My back ended up looking like I'd been flogged every week. Happy days. At least that's what I keep telling myself.
I saw a rugby league (match? game?) many years ago. Do they still use the bucket of sand as a kicking tee to attempt a field goal? I see rugby union (especially rugby seven) more often played on TV.
What wasn’t mentioned was that any conversion (PAT) has to be kicked from in line to where the ball was touched down - so you score a try just inbounds then you’re going to be kicking from the very edge of the field.
I don’t think he really mentioned there’s no offence or defence either - it’s the same players playing most of the entire 80 minutes with a very small number of substitutions (similar to football / soccer).
That was like a knife to the heart when you said you prefer rugby union lol. :( The video is a bit off the mark with the origin story, rugby union players didn't used to get payment, and the union took the huge gate takings. Which wasn't a problem by itself, but when players were injured, they were unable to return to their regular job during the week, and the rugby union refused to offer them any compensation. If a player broke a leg, they'd be in huge trouble with their job - particularly in the north of England where rugby league started, and a lot of players worked as miners. So players decided to create their own "league" which was the start of rugby league in 1895. And since rugby league was now paying players they adjusted the rules to make their sport more entertaining and therefore attract more spectators. I'd say aspects of that class divide exist to today, in New Zealand where I live schools were recently in the news for putting pressure on kids not to play rugby league.
The play the ball in Rugby League after the player is tackled used to be a 2 person scum so once the player tackled got up and the the ball touched the ground to play it the markers could hook the ball backwards or kick the ball and the scrums used to be contested ie the pushed in the scrum. Both were stopped to speed the game up. Russell Crowe does the rules of Rugby League for the Australian National Rugby League coming to the USA in early 2024. He is also part owner of the (NRL) South Sydney Rabbitos. The rules of Rugby League has changed to make it a much faster game than Rugby Union and the players alot more aerobically fitter. Oh the comments 1800's the players wanted to be paid was because they would have to for go work and pay to play so they wanted to be paid so they didn't lose money and there is only a half a dozen or so contries that play Rugby Union that don't play Rugby League. If you want a good Rugby League game to watch game 3 State of Origin. State of Origin is were the NRL pick a Representative side were the players first played 1st grade rugby league either Queensland or New South Wales and they play 3 game and the Australian Team is picked from that. In that game one player for New South Wales scored a try he normally plays for the Newcastle Knights and to do it he had to get around 2 players on the Queensland team the normally play for the Newcastle Knights. So it's mate against mate and State against State.
at the end of each game it is also customary to congratulate the other team by saying 'tally-pip, jolly good rugger' and then patting one another strenuously on the buttocks. at least that is how i was taught
The only thing you need to watch is the 2023 Springboks rugby world cup games leading up to the world cup final
There's still a mob football match played every year in Ashbourne, England.
Ok I've just watched few for your vids. Your rugby IQ is much higer than most reactions vids.
The only thing i will say is : Rugby doesn't actually have rules, we call them laws.
It's the same with association football, Aussie rules football & cricket - all have laws too.
It feels like when explaining the rules (or laws) of rugby, every explanation needs an asterisk or 2 next to it with a ton of exceptions and clarifications in the footnotes, and I say that as someone who has followed rugby for years 😅
You are correct mate, laws not rules.
i really don't care about Rugby OR football, i just come to see you smile and your amazing input and reaction to any topic, love this channel :3
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Perfect recommendation for NFL fans. League first, then watch union as a mod pack XD
You should be able to differentiate between League and Union within thirty seconds, jus by the lack of density and the sort of namby pamby style of league, Union is 80 minutes of massive creatures crashing into each other
If you've fallen to the floor in a ruck then you have to attempt get out of the way of the active players. If you can not get out of the way you are to make yourself small (and protected) and remain still.
Plenty of rules in rugby but the referee is in *total control*. 😁
Union has laws mate.
Nigel Owens for a $1000 please.
If you want to watch a compilation of a specific player, I'd suggest Dan Carter. Arguably the GOAT of rugby union, and played a position most similar to the quarterback in American football, so you'll see a wide range of skills (running, passing, kicking, offloads etc) - hes also scored more points in international matches than any other player in history
Yep Carter is one of the best., though I'm biased. So many good highlights of players (Lomu obviously) though. B Barrett, C Cullen, B Habana, B O'Driscoll, D Campese, ok the list can go on and on!
Since you're showing a preference for Union (the thinking persons game) you should know that proper rugby union fans way of figuring out which code you are watching is to count the legs and divide by two! ;-P
They have tried cross-over matches where the teams played each other under the others rules, When the Union rules were used it was easy for the Union teams to dominate in the scrum and lineouts as these are so technical, but in both codes, once the ball was out in the open, the League teams dominated with better running angles, so much so that Union started recruiting League players and coaches for their teams. The very best League teams also started being invited into Union 7's tournaments and usually won.
Prior to Union becoming (officially) professional, a number of Union players crossed over to play League, never allowed back!
League made a massive mistake in not pushing the sport worldwide, especially in the States where the simularity to American Football would have helped it take off. Exhibition matches were always played on pitches that were too small and ended up being dour, defensive affairs.
One thing definitely in League's favour, the ball is in play far more in League than Union.
Personally I prefer League, although internationally Union is a much better watch than international League.
That was in the mid 90's when Union was about to go professional. There was a big gap in training and conditioning then. Wigan was invited and able to win a union 7s tournament.
Could never happen now as the Union guys receive professional training and on average are heavier than their League counterparts
@@PjRjHj Saying it "Could never happen now" is ridiculous, and Wigan weren't the only League team to win a Union 7's tournament. Weight doesn't really help much in 7's, does it?
For a start, although the Union boys were officially "Amateur", they got plenty in expenses that made that a lie, especially for the Southern Hemisphere teams. One of the reasons the Union authorities finally saw sense and allowed the players to be paid as professionals.
Why do you think so many of the top players and coaches from League were recruited by Union International and club sides? It was because of their brilliant offensive and defensive skills, in the backs especially.
streets is saying that's the original basquiat skull
It's rock n roll here in 🇿🇦 when it comes to rugby hier kom die Bokke🏆'95🏆'07🏆'19🏆'23
(Ja, that's right, 2007 & 2019 Back2Back😏)
The other distinction is that a lot of Rugby Union players have cauliflower ears because of the scrums.😂
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Union is incomprehensionly clear of league
Rugby League lives rent free in your head .
@@bobbytreetop1701 rugby league lives in the bin that is the north
I dislocated my elbow in a ruck about 35 years ago. Still not right.
I didn't get into the starts of the Olympics, as i was watching the full days of the mens and womens rugby.
Uniform? Most of us don't get paid to play. It's just a kit (Just saying what i call it, not saying to change)
It would be cool if you made a full video reacting in spanish
Great reaction, rugby must be confusing to someone that hasn't grown up with it!
Basically American Football is Rugby with all the fun taken out :) You just can't beat clattering someone in Rugby. For a nation that's generally so literal, your sports defy logic - American Football is predominantly played with your hands and a touchdown doesn't require you to touch the ball on the ground.
Question... were you in San Francisco in 2023 at USF?
No haha I don’t live in the states
I know, you live in South America somewhere. Lucky you! I'm scared to go there.@NoProtocol
The is still one game of mob football played annually in Atherstone, England on Shrove Tuesday,it interesting to watch ,its brutal and anarchic ,with few rules ,its definately not football,its one the ridiculous ways the British amuse themselves, like chasing a wheel of cheese down a hill ,you will find videos on You Tube of the Ball Game ❤❤
I'm interested to learn why American Football changed away from Rugby so much. I just think it's a mistake in general, in terms of cutting the US off from the sports played everywhere else in the world, and not getting to compete in international tournaments for it much.
I played rugby at school. My sternum has been bent out of shape since the 1990's
Oh my!
@@NoProtocol Clearly I mean septum. It was a lot of fun. I meant to sound proud not sad.
Grew up playing union in NZ, played league in OZ at high school. Heaps of injuries in league. Dislocated shoulder and broken clavicle.. among my others. We played differently in the 80's in RL a scrum was actually a real scrum, seriously competed for the pill.
Kurt-Lee Arendse and Cheslin Kolbe have the best highlight reels in rugby💪🇿🇦
I always recommend England women versus USA rugby union.
Try USA vs All Blacks!!
Hey don't be mean bro🤣🤣
2 broken collarbones, 7 broken ribs, 3 broken fingers, dislocated jaw and I once stubbed my toe in the shower after a game! God I miss playing rugby!
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Football (soccer) is a gentleman’s game played by hooligans.
Rugby is a hooligans game played by gentlemen.
Greetings young lady have you had a look at the Brutal Atherstone Ball Game ? Back to the good old day's.🤣
Can I suggest that now you've had the basic rules explained, don't watch the games recommended. Instead, first watch a grassroots (Kiwi term for local club as opposed to a regional team) game first so yo can see what can go wrong for a team in a game. Then watch an international game (say All blacks v Springboks). You'll know mostly what can go wrong by then, which will give you a good grasp of the skills the better players have. As with all armchair sportspeople, you're gonna need beer, salty snacks, and anything else unhealthy you can find.
Wait till you are a no 8 at the back of the scrum and you fall down in the mud then 15 other players fall on top of you!!!!!
More of these please! & casual Geo