I love this! 😃👍 I bought this Silver Bullet directly from Citadel Lock Tools and it is the only version I have experience of. Use: citadellocktools@hotmail.com for enquires.
What would you suggest for someone starting out in the hobby of lock picking. I'm 58 disabled and looking for a use full hobby and mental enjoyment And any possible class or instructions. Ty Sd
Thanks, Ash, for explaining centre tensioning. That price is very reasonable for what really is a hand-made precision tool. If you want anything hand-made, whether it's shoes, a suit, a bookshelf or an instrument, you have to expect a premium price. There are many hours of work behind the designing and making of this pick, and 'The workman deserves his wages.' is a statement which we should all remember.
There's an old saying... Buy once, cry once. I have experience working with stainless steel and it can be a real pain in the ass to work with, at least most of the stainless you would make tools from that is. The price is well justified for what you're getting. Thanks for sharing this with us, it's a cool piece of kit!
Beautiful bit of equipment. I'd say it's well worth the expense, given the make, material, and accessories. Is it better than the LPL&BB pick? Well, yeah. It is. Hence, the price. LPL&BB designed a pick that works well within its parameters, is of quality make, and *affordable* (Which it is, all of that). Not the end all be all of disc detainer picks. You put in a lot of hours with locks, and the videos that help us all, so definitely not something you should feel any guilt over purchasing. Thanks for showing it off.
I have been looking at the silver bullet for a long time, really like its functionality, ability to tension from the rear and shape/reach of the tips. I think I am sold and will be my next gift to myself!
@@LockNoob I have found it a convenient excuse to brighten up the new house while occupying my time during the quarantine, and been shopping online a lot for both the new house and toys to keep myself occupied! Trying to hold out until next month before I buy myself any more "presents"!!!
I was close to order one when Sparrows finally released their disk detainer pick. Now I have a new toy but the Silver Bullet is definitely on my list. Also, on top of the high price, I would need order other locks to play with.
Lovely tool kit. And I mean you got excited by it so..... I mean you know its awesome. Have a great day my friend. Stay healthy and enjoy your new tool. Thank you for sharing it with us.
This pick has always been either #1 or #2 on my wish list. It’s very versatile and I wish “the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made” offered a few different pieces that would allow it to rear tension. And made the rear tensioner longer to go deep when needed. I’m sure they are going to offer a expansion pack. If they don’t they are slipping. Oh well enough of me complaining. Mr. Noob , Great vid as always. -From NY going on a month quarantine. 🦠🥵🥶😳😷🤧😵🦠 Stay safe everyone !
Just a tip you should refer to the graduations on the tool as space and depth. Space is the cut number as 1, 2, 3, etc. and depth of cut is needed for decoding.
Thanks for the video! I grew up in Europe, and I'm a huge fan of Abloy. That's the lock we had on our door when I was growing up. I've always wanted to learn to pick it. I guess I know what's the next tool I want :}
Great tool, but given the price and features it's rather something for the dedicated DD lockpicker. I mean, sure, the Sparrows pick doesn't have all of the same feature, but then again it's $45 while this (version of it) is nearly 9 times that. I think the Sparrows tool is great for when you're trying to get the hang of DD locks and when you know that you're into it it's time to add the Silver Bullet to your arsenal.
Sparrows price is that cheap, because the lock picking lawyer and Bosnianbill gave them te design for free and asked in return to make it as cheap as posible.
@@patricknnt1301 Yes, I'm aware, but what exactly does is change? I'm still not going to invest 400 bucks in order to get started with DD picking no matter the reason for the price being what it is
@@saschaschneider6355 that is not what i meant, if i was you i would always go for Sparrows one. Its soo much cheaper, i just said the reason why its cheaper, i would always recomend that one before this one, its too expensive
Outstanding review. I actually did the same thing. I been putting it off way too long and finally came to realize It’s time to get one. I must say the shipping is horrible at the moment but it’s probably due to the Covid19 causing delays. I also did not want a plastic one. I can hardly wait to get mine. This thing looks fantastic.
Great video. I love your reviews, they are so detailed and explanatory. Awesome set, they thought of everything. Pick any disk lock, and decode it too! Also very good quality, but unfortunately way out of my budget.
This is really a skilled surgeon's tool, isn't it? Lots of versatility, but requires a good bit of skill, experience and knowledge to use it. I have tools like this for working on old mechanical diesel fuel injection systems. Obsolete now of course, but still beautiful. Nice Review
@@LockNoob Yeah, I just personally don't know anyone that would pay anywhere close to that, but again, it's a beautiful tool, and there are obviously some that will pay it. I just see someone mass producing basically the same tool and selling a truck load of them. Great content.
Wow! Here I thought you were going to tell me that this was so much better Than the Sparrows disk detainer pick and that only a few dollars more. Well I was half right. It certainly is better than the Sparrows pick. But it's also about five times the price. I think I'll order the Sparrows pick and also look for one of the inexpensive Chinese pics. I'd be very interested to know where you got the clear see-through disk detainer locks? They seem to be better quality than most of the pin tumbler see-through practice locks I've seen.
Looks like a great tool! I could never justify buying one but if you're happy that's all that counts. Is there a way to tell ether from the lock or the key if the cylinder is front, back or random middle tensioning?
@@LockNoob Yes, it looks like a super tool! Could you help me out with my question? (Is there a way to tell ether from the lock or the key if the cylinder is front, back or random middle tensioning?)
Hello, I'm quite new to lock sport and was wondering if there's less pricey brand than this one that could do rear tension and/or center? I already have the sparrow one in the mail. Thank you
@@LockNoobit doesn't have handles like "the pick that BB and I made" to hold and it and tension. But I'd like to see you use it on a cool lock in hand, maybe in a next video :)
There are many, many DD lock makers but around 20 or so of quality some who make a variety of cores. This tool is only of value to people who want the choice of being able to pick most DD locks, and I guess that might not be everyone. A strange comment from @FalconerPhoto... I never find picking typical pin tumbler locks boring 🤷♂️
If this is of limited run or not enough coming out of the factory each year for that price then its a pass for me. Why buy a tool that's hard to get that costs a fortune. What will happen eventually is the same tool made with similar or better materials being sold for less and in large numbers. I've seen this with lots of products in the past. It just takes time. If money wasn't an issue then sure I'd get this but I'd still be concerned about the availability of replacement heads and the tool itself. Another issue is if the manufacturer just flopped leaving you with a tool that you can't maintain unless you machined the parts yourself. Is this their only product? I also notice its currently sold out. Do new ones eventually come in stock? I feel sceptical about this. I think Sparrows had the right idea with the price point on their product, plus its backed by LPL and BosnianBill. I could also buy replacement heads for cheap as well as more of those tools if needed without breaking the bank.
@Hell's favorite NPC #69OU812 . exe I paid 407 USD, I believe. If you get on the website (just Google "Silver Bullet Disc Detainer lock pick") there is an option in the top right of the webpage to change the price to a handful of different currency. There are two websites that sell similar (but still different) products. They are both affiliated with each other. Lockfall Laboratories has a 3D printer variant that sells for about 150 USD. The pick that Lock Noob has in this video is from the actual Silver Bullet website and is the more pricey one. Depending on what you are attempting to accomplish and what your budget looks like right now, one may be better than the other. Hope this helps!
@@LockNoob if it's for your job then yes I can agree with you. Mr Joe average hobby picker it's just a ridiculous price. The sparrows one imo does the same thing and is a sensible price
@@LockNoob If it was all manually machined I could see it being close to this price but on CNC it can be a lot cheaper and I bet the bodies are at least CNC'd. It's a shame I started my new job as a CNC turner when I did otherwise I'd have made more bodies for Baldiloks by now. If we had spare time at work I'd ask my boss if we could CNC some bodies, minutes as opposed to hours to get a high finish.
Hey, I'd love to know if anyone has tried putting these tips into the sparrows tool. I haven't been able to get confirmation yet on if the diameters are the same where the set screws grip the tips
Very nice pick, but watch out for fakes or copies, my first search found another called "silverbullit", but came in aluminum, brass, and I think copper, but not stainless steel, and was shorter than yours, don't ya just hate cloners.... Have a good day, stay safe
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I love this! 😃👍 I bought this Silver Bullet directly from Citadel Lock Tools and it is the only version I have experience of. Use: citadellocktools@hotmail.com for enquires.
What would you suggest for someone starting out in the hobby of lock picking.
I'm 58 disabled and looking for a use full hobby and mental enjoyment
And any possible class or instructions.
Ty Sd
Thanks, Ash, for explaining centre tensioning. That price is very reasonable for what really is a hand-made precision tool. If you want anything hand-made, whether it's shoes, a suit, a bookshelf or an instrument, you have to expect a premium price. There are many hours of work behind the designing and making of this pick, and 'The workman deserves his wages.' is a statement which we should all remember.
So u say Abloy Classic is not so common ehm come to Finland and u can change your mind
There's an old saying... Buy once, cry once. I have experience working with stainless steel and it can be a real pain in the ass to work with, at least most of the stainless you would make tools from that is. The price is well justified for what you're getting. Thanks for sharing this with us, it's a cool piece of kit!
Thanks 🙏
Beautiful bit of equipment. I'd say it's well worth the expense, given the make, material, and accessories. Is it better than the LPL&BB pick? Well, yeah. It is. Hence, the price. LPL&BB designed a pick that works well within its parameters, is of quality make, and *affordable* (Which it is, all of that). Not the end all be all of disc detainer picks. You put in a lot of hours with locks, and the videos that help us all, so definitely not something you should feel any guilt over purchasing. Thanks for showing it off.
I don’t think it has bits I have no use for? I need all of the bits 🤷♂️
The custom set was the addition of the Abloy tip
Al Ger well said and thank you 😊
I have been looking at the silver bullet for a long time, really like its functionality, ability to tension from the rear and shape/reach of the tips. I think I am sold and will be my next gift to myself!
It’s a lovely tool!
@@LockNoob I have found it a convenient excuse to brighten up the new house while occupying my time during the quarantine, and been shopping online a lot for both the new house and toys to keep myself occupied! Trying to hold out until next month before I buy myself any more "presents"!!!
Got my money for mine just about.I cannot wait😊 . Nice review my friend.
Thanks friend! 😃
I was close to order one when Sparrows finally released their disk detainer pick. Now I have a new toy but the Silver Bullet is definitely on my list. Also, on top of the high price, I would need order other locks to play with.
There is always something cool to buy in this great hobby!
Very nice well designed tool. Well outside of the price range of a lot of pickers.
Can't wait to watch the videos you make showing this in action.
Thanks Roy!
Lovely tool kit.
And I mean you got excited by it so..... I mean you know its awesome. Have a great day my friend. Stay healthy and enjoy your new tool. Thank you for sharing it with us.
You stay safe too friend! 😃👍
@@LockNoob thank you ash. Doing my best. Still hoping to be half the picker you are one day.
This pick has always been either #1 or #2 on my wish list. It’s very versatile and I wish “the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made” offered a few different pieces that would allow it to rear tension. And made the rear tensioner longer to go deep when needed. I’m sure they are going to offer a expansion pack. If they don’t they are slipping. Oh well enough of me complaining. Mr. Noob , Great vid as always. -From NY going on a month quarantine. 🦠🥵🥶😳😷🤧😵🦠 Stay safe everyone !
Maybe they’ll make a rear tensioning expansion?
Just a tip you should refer to the graduations on the tool as space and depth. Space is the cut number as 1, 2, 3, etc. and depth of cut is needed for decoding.
True
Now I’m Really thinking about getting one. 😊 It’s a fantastic tool & really looks to be worth the price tag. Great video.
Well Daz, I think you would certainly get your money’s worth out of it with your skill and experience 😃👍
Just remember to ask for the "LockNoob" package. Premium price, best for your buck. LOL.
Thanks for the video! I grew up in Europe, and I'm a huge fan of Abloy. That's the lock we had on our door when I was growing up. I've always wanted to learn to pick it. I guess I know what's the next tool I want :}
This is a tool for locks well over my skill level. Hopefully I’ll get there some day, if so this is definitely a tool I’d buy.
No, with a bit of practice you’d be fine! 👍
Great tool, but given the price and features it's rather something for the dedicated DD lockpicker. I mean, sure, the Sparrows pick doesn't have all of the same feature, but then again it's $45 while this (version of it) is nearly 9 times that. I think the Sparrows tool is great for when you're trying to get the hang of DD locks and when you know that you're into it it's time to add the Silver Bullet to your arsenal.
Yes, I think the Sparrows tool is really great value and a good options for pickers who might not want to spend too much on a DD pick
Sparrows price is that cheap, because the lock picking lawyer and Bosnianbill gave them te design for free and asked in return to make it as cheap as posible.
@@patricknnt1301 Yes, I'm aware, but what exactly does is change? I'm still not going to invest 400 bucks in order to get started with DD picking no matter the reason for the price being what it is
@@saschaschneider6355 that is not what i meant, if i was you i would always go for Sparrows one. Its soo much cheaper, i just said the reason why its cheaper, i would always recomend that one before this one, its too expensive
Recently ordered the harbor freight mini Mill and mini lathe so I'm about to start making things like this I can't wait
Cool!
Great review Lock Noob. I'm sticking with Sparrows for now. If I really get into that more, I may consider. Can't wait for your live show tomorrow!
Thanks 🙏
Outstanding review. I actually did the same thing. I been putting it off way too long and finally came to realize It’s time to get one. I must say the shipping is horrible at the moment but it’s probably due to the Covid19 causing delays. I also did not want a plastic one. I can hardly wait to get mine. This thing looks fantastic.
It’s a great tool!
Most complete tool. Great new toy!
Thanks 😊
Great video. I love your reviews, they are so detailed and explanatory.
Awesome set, they thought of everything. Pick any disk lock, and decode it too! Also very good quality, but unfortunately way out of my budget.
Its not cheap, but I don’t have any regrets so far :-)
This is really a skilled surgeon's tool, isn't it? Lots of versatility, but requires a good bit of skill, experience and knowledge to use it. I have tools like this for working on old mechanical diesel fuel injection systems. Obsolete now of course, but still beautiful. Nice Review
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Very nice 👍👍👍
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wow! amazing tool there Ash my friend, I´m sure you will enjoy it a lot, thanks for showing buddy ;o))
Thanks Tallan, it’s a really great tool! 😃👍
Thats a beautiful tool, i can understand why its expensive quality tool, great review, 👍👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👌😊
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So jealous, very impressive professional tool, excellent review
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Beautiful tool! Awesome quality.
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nice bit of kit Ash my friend very cool😎🇬🇧👊😊👍
Thanks Leon!
That is my grail tool, thanks for sharing. 👍
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Nice piece of kit!! I would keep it in my safe though with that price tag :P
Would the safe have an Abloy on it though!?
@@LockNoob nah.. Some generic dimple lock. Havent tried to pick it yet.. Have to give it a shoot. 👍
What a fantastic tool.
It is!
Great review LN well done keep up the great work/vids. :)
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Awesome review very nice thanks for sharing
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Amazing tool !!
Thanks matt !!
Agreed! 👍
Great video
A beautiful tool, but I'll have to wait and see if the price comes down....a lot!
I’m not sure it’s going to come down in price - as odd as it may sound, it’s sold at a very reasonable price considering the volume made. 👍
@@LockNoob Yeah, I just personally don't know anyone that would pay anywhere close to that, but again, it's a beautiful tool, and there are obviously some that will pay it. I just see someone mass producing basically the same tool and selling a truck load of them. Great content.
Congrats my friend beautiful tool.😎
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Very informative as always my friend.
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Wow that is so nice. Guess it's time for another tool yet
👍👍👍
Nice review. I think I'd prefer an aluminum handle though.
If it were bigger, I’d agree but this feels nice and not too heavy
@@LockNoob I'm more thinking in terms of cost.
That's is the best of the best DD kit hands down. I wish I was as wealthy as you. Lol
As I was. I’m now skint. Happy, but skint
@@LockNoob 😝👍
For the price of 400 usd I think I will hold out for sparrows, it may be 2022 before I can get one.
It’s good value, but the cost is high for most people for sure
Good review :) its a great tool and although not cheap, definitely good value for quality
Agreed! 👍😃
very nice review!
Thanks 🙏
I need a Disc detainer Pick
I don't think I've seen you use this pic in DD videos?
Wow! Here I thought you were going to tell me that this was so much better Than the Sparrows disk detainer pick and that only a few dollars more. Well I was half right. It certainly is better than the Sparrows pick. But it's also about five times the price. I think I'll order the Sparrows pick and also look for one of the inexpensive Chinese pics.
I'd be very interested to know where you got the clear see-through disk detainer locks? They seem to be better quality than most of the pin tumbler see-through practice locks I've seen.
The clear one I got from Amazon, though they sell them everywhere really :-)
I got mine on Amazon :-)
Looks like a great tool! I could never justify buying one but if you're happy that's all that counts. Is there a way to tell ether from the lock or the key if the cylinder is front, back or random middle tensioning?
Oh I’m super happy, but I did save up a while to get it!
@@LockNoob Yes, it looks like a super tool! Could you help me out with my question? (Is there a way to tell ether from the lock or the key if the cylinder is front, back or random middle tensioning?)
Hello, I'm quite new to lock sport and was wondering if there's less pricey brand than this one that could do rear tension and/or center? I already have the sparrow one in the mail. Thank you
Nice review. You cant pick in hand with the silverbullet it seems, whatever the configuration, am I correct ?
No, you can absolutely pick in hand with it. As with all tools, it’s easier In the vice though
@@LockNoobit doesn't have handles like "the pick that BB and I made" to hold and it and tension. But I'd like to see you use it on a cool lock in hand, maybe in a next video :)
so did you guys know there tips and gear come from huk :)
What is the price tag on this beautiful tool ?
Somewhere between $250 to over $400 depending on what you get :-)
if you dont have the key ... how do you know where to find the tension disc?
cool :)
Thanks 🙏
Hi thanks for the video. Do you know if the manufacturer sells the different tips individually ??
I think it’s very possible, if you ask them :-)
Maybe eventually----- suppose the question is are disc detainee locks becoming a lot more popular
@FalconerPhoto I realise that mate but if there is only
There are many, many DD lock makers but around 20 or so of quality some who make a variety of cores. This tool is only of value to people who want the choice of being able to pick most DD locks, and I guess that might not be everyone. A strange comment from @FalconerPhoto... I never find picking typical pin tumbler locks boring 🤷♂️
@@LockNoob same here---- but that's because iam not that great at it----- thinking I did not explain my point well
I think it's high time you updated your name. Noob_no_more :)
Nah, I’m still learning!
If this is of limited run or not enough coming out of the factory each year for that price then its a pass for me. Why buy a tool that's hard to get that costs a fortune. What will happen eventually is the same tool made with similar or better materials being sold for less and in large numbers. I've seen this with lots of products in the past. It just takes time. If money wasn't an issue then sure I'd get this but I'd still be concerned about the availability of replacement heads and the tool itself. Another issue is if the manufacturer just flopped leaving you with a tool that you can't maintain unless you machined the parts yourself. Is this their only product? I also notice its currently sold out. Do new ones eventually come in stock? I feel sceptical about this. I think Sparrows had the right idea with the price point on their product, plus its backed by LPL and BosnianBill. I could also buy replacement heads for cheap as well as more of those tools if needed without breaking the bank.
Does it open the protec 2 ? And what's the price
Way out of my range but good video
Thanks 🙏
I literally just ordered mine this morning! What was the turn around time like for you?
Great video and thanks for your time!
@Hell's favorite NPC #69OU812 . exe I paid 407 USD, I believe. If you get on the website (just Google "Silver Bullet Disc Detainer lock pick") there is an option in the top right of the webpage to change the price to a handful of different currency. There are two websites that sell similar (but still different) products. They are both affiliated with each other. Lockfall Laboratories has a 3D printer variant that sells for about 150 USD. The pick that Lock Noob has in this video is from the actual Silver Bullet website and is the more pricey one.
Depending on what you are attempting to accomplish and what your budget looks like right now, one may be better than the other.
Hope this helps!
What was the price tag on this beautiful tool ?
A few months 👍
Where did you order the custom (Abloy Classic) tips? Greetings
Direct from Matt (Hux) the designer
@@LockNoob I can't find anything on the Citadel site, did you order it there? Have also written so far without response.
I can't wait till China makes one for $5 =))
Where can I order this universal set
How can you tell a front tensioning lock from a rear by looking at the lock or key?
About 90% rear tension. Sometimes you just have to feel around in the lock with the tool to determine which is the correct disc to tension with.
Hello
can i order those tools
That's horrendously expensive. You can buy a car cheaper than that. BUT it's cool 👍
It’s not expensive considering the small manufacturing run and hand finishing. Some professional safe picks can run into the thousands of dollars 💵
@@LockNoob if it's for your job then yes I can agree with you. Mr Joe average hobby picker it's just a ridiculous price. The sparrows one imo does the same thing and is a sensible price
@@LockNoob If it was all manually machined I could see it being close to this price but on CNC it can be a lot cheaper and I bet the bodies are at least CNC'd. It's a shame I started my new job as a CNC turner when I did otherwise I'd have made more bodies for Baldiloks by now. If we had spare time at work I'd ask my boss if we could CNC some bodies, minutes as opposed to hours to get a high finish.
Cornish Watch Reviews clearly the Sparrows one only front tensions and not Abloy. It IS very good indeed, but it can’t do anything like this pick 🤷♂️
@@LockNoob Ok you win
329 euros. Ouch
Hey, I'd love to know if anyone has tried putting these tips into the sparrows tool. I haven't been able to get confirmation yet on if the diameters are the same where the set screws grip the tips
The sparrows tool has a square tension receiver so no, it won’t fit
@@LockNoob Oh, mine has a square insert piece but it's a circular hole
Very nice pick, but watch out for fakes or copies, my first search found another called "silverbullit", but came in aluminum, brass, and I think copper, but not stainless steel, and was shorter than yours, don't ya just hate cloners....
Have a good day, stay safe
There are a few made under licence out there :-)
Too expensive for a locksporter. If I was a locksmith I might use one.
I don’t know... I’ve met a lot of locksporters with extremely deep pockets!
Are you kidding me, €375 ($415) ...
It’s a bargain really considering what it is and what you get
Out of stock 😦
Im hungry an drunk
Well, I’m hungry and I could drink...
@@LockNoob i have a headache
Great review of an awesome tool. Thanks for sharing Ash and take care mate.
Thanks Gazz, stay safe friend!