How to Rebuild a Muncie 4 Speed - Tip # 1
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Paul Cangialosi discusses the features of the Drag Special Muncie M22 4 speed and explains some of his basic rebuilding tips. Stuck synchro rings and sealing are touched upon. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Paul those housings are very nice your attention to detail is as good as it gets.
I trashed A LOT of M22's “back in the day!”....you're never to old to learn something, many thanks you have a new subscriber
Thank you for your very informative videos. I rebuilt my 1965 M20 using parts bought from you. The car is still up on jack stands and goes thru the gears nicely. My problem is my speedo cable seems to have grown about 3/8". It sticks out of the trans so far I can't screw it on. So I thought it came out of the speedo at the dash, so I attached it to the trans first, It was too long to go into the head of the speedo. Numerous attempts changed nothing, so I pulled the trans out and the pulled the tail housing off. Looked at the gear on the shaft and looked ok. The speedo gear is bottomed out against the housing. I'm lost, what's holding it from going in to where it belongs?
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Great work! Enjoy all your videos......
Thank you.
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andrew
you do great work Paul,
Thank You!
do you have input shaft nuts..i see your rebuild kits come with them but that was it. i bought a M20 kit about 4 years ago online it didn't come with one
big cal guns Yes, ours are USA made. I have them on Ebay www.ebay.com/itm/221279931636 or call us at 561-743-5600
I worked on a BW T-10 back in the 80s, the synchronizers that I removed had solid keys in them, the replacements had hollow stamped keys. I normally do automatics, Powerglides, 350s, 400s, and so forth. Four gears wasn't something that I enjoyed. I noticed that all the synchros you have been working with use the solid keys. Is there any benefit to using the hollow keys.
All early T10 units with hollow keys get replaced with Muncie solid ones. Later ST10 were solid. The stamped keys are sometime inaccurately made and tend to break.
I've been watching your videos for a while now and I gain confidence that I can rebuild a manual transmission. I work on cars all the time, but never tackled a transmission. I have a 73 Nova with a 3 speed Saginaw, but on 3rd gear, at 50 mph, speedometer is at 80 - 90 mph. I purchased a 4 speed saginaw for $60, and want to rebuilt it. Would like your comments/thoughts. Also, is it seams very similar to the muncei, am I right? yes? no? Thank you. I enjoy your videos, thank you for taking the time, and sharing your expertise, even more, thank you for enabling others to learn how to rebuilt the best transmissions like experts.
Very similar to the Muncie. But since it has no midplate more similar to the Mopar A833. My books covers the Muncie and Mopar transmissions
Hi Paul, Great vid. Has there ever been a rebuild kit that included an aftermarket 5th gear overdrive in these boxes. Of course back in the day when gas was 35 cents a gallon this wasn't a concern. It would be really nice to have this upgrade in an original Muncie housing. thanks
Not for the Muncie.
it was the tail shaft itself but, I have found out that you heat the gear that drives the speedometer gear and pull it off. Thanks
Hello, Have you ever tried using a rollerized 1st gear in a street strip car in the Muncie m22? Im wondering how long it would last? Great vids by the way!
No, I don't use them in drag applications and wouldn't take the chance.
Update...... Everything is perfect since having the flywheel weight drilled for balancing. Thanks again.
Quick question.
With a muncie m22 build 400 small block. When doing a burnout with line lock. Would you suggest starting in 1st gear and slamming into 2nd with out using clutch?
Or
Just start burnout in 2nd gear?
Thank you in advance and anxiously waiting for your answer on this. Lol
JOHNNY RAY always first gear and always use a clutch.
So i'm a huge fan of the tremec T-56 because of the amount of overdrive it has in 5th and 6th gear. Not a huge fan on 1st-4th. Just out of curiosity would it be possible to have thegear ratios of an M-20 in a T-56? So sort of a M-20 only with a 5th and 6th gear identical to a T-56?
+Austin W G-force transmissions makes some closer ratio gearsets for the T56 that would probably suit your requirements to something similar to the M20.
Cool, I'll be sure to contact them. Do you know of any ways to have the exact ratios or would that involve getting gears specially manufactured?
+Austin W gear sets that have exact ratios you want for the t56 are made by a company called ppg. But you're looking at about $20,000
+GearBoxVideo Wow that's a hit for the wallet. Thanks for letting me know! I'll probably deal with G-force instead. :)
Gear Box Video, I have a Muncie M-22 out of a 1969 Pontiac G.T.O. The rears in the Tailhousing are stripped and I'm trying to replace them. My problem is it appears that the tailshaft is two pieces and I can't get the larger of the two gears off due to this. It originally looked like the separate shaft have a hex bolt in it but, it doesn't appear to be so. How do I separate these two parts?
Sorry, I don't understand your question. A tailhousing is one piece. Call me. 561-743-5600
Hello Paul, hope you and your family are doing well. I am in the process of putting a 4.8 LS engine in my 73 Nova and would like to use my 4 spd Muncie. I need help in finding the right flywheel and pilot bearing. Mcleod has a thicker flywheel that could be used; there are also extended pilot bearings or hydraulic systems, but too expensive. Also, looking for a way to connect the clutch linkage to the engine (thinking of making a bracket). Any suggestions/solutions? Thank you, God bless.
Quiktime makes a bellhousing that gives the correct stack height for an older 4 speed. You still will have to do a hydraulic clutch or fabricate your own bracket
Paul, what kind of gear oil do you recommend. Is the brad penn GL-4 good? Thanks
I like the Brad Penn GL4. Driven Oils is also coming out with a Semi Synthetic GL4 that we tested and works really good.
Paul, I'm looking at your book on how to rebuild a muncie. This will be my first. Doe the book go step by step on dismantling and assembly? If so I want it. Thanks
Of course it does!
Great video ! Watched it to see if it would go over a problem I'm having. I have a vibration at the higher end of every gear. M22 goes in and out of every gear perfectly??? Any ideas?
Nice chatting with you on the phone. Keep me posted.
Took tour advice and having the flywheel balanced as i type this. Turns out a true 400 flywheel is not the same as 454. Everyone assumed i made a 350 into a 400 like most do. Thanks again and ill let you know the outcome.
JOHNNY RAY Thanks and please keep me updated here.
What size spot face do you use and what brand? If you can put a link here that would be great. Thanks.
Any tool supply house sells them such as Zoro or Mscdirect
@@GearBoxVideo Ok, thanks but what size do you use when you spot face the bellhousing to case bolt landings? Thanks again.
Spot face is by the pilot bore which is 1/2"
I have a question, is it possible to change the 3.50 gear ration on a 4 speed saginaw?
You have to change the gearset
Gone through you id chart in the book for my m20 and I can't seem to work out the stamping it has.
Casting number 3851325 -1964-65 year.
ID O145348 ?? Not sure?
Any help would be great.
Date codes start with a P . Other stamps are the VIN of the car
@@GearBoxVideo yes I remember you talking about this in your other videos. Can't find any P codes on the casing. May have been removed. Thanks for all your shared knowledge in the videos it's great to follow.
Hate to leave a totally unrelated comment, so let me say again that I love your videos. I have a question though. What's your opinion on early oil changes in brand new vehicles? Various sources online say that you should change the oil within 500 miles, others say follow the regular schedule or manufacturer recommendation. Is there an authoritative opinion on this? Rather, what's YOUR authoritative opinion on this? Thanks a lot.
Engine oil. Yeah mine is a 6 speed manual. But I've been told by some helpful acquaintances that I should do my first oil change at 500 miles. My manufacturer manual says the on board computer will tell me when I need to change the oil. It is a manual transmission, 2014 Ford Focus ST
Anthony Pavlak the problem with manual transmissions in general is that they don't have filters and non ferrous particles are not trapped by magnets. So its safe to say that 10K oil changes are a good start. No need to dump oil after 500 miles. The Ford Dual clutch "automatics" have been plaqued with a lot of issues, especially the 2014's.
GearBoxVideo
Thanks a lot for your advice
Hey Paul, how can i get my M20 rebuilt by you?
Hi, at the current time I'm so backed up building new units that I don't have time for rebuilts.
how much $ is a new m20 26/32 spline
I only do M22 boxes in 26/32 configs. You can get an M22W with a 2.56 1st and closer ratio 2-3 & 3-4 for $2095.00
@@GearBoxVideo good afternoon Paul, just came across your videos and I am really enjoying the knowledge you are share.Question, are you still selling Muncie transmission, just came into a 62 vette project car and I would like to place a Muncie for street and highway driving....
Currently I am not selling units
do you build for people
+brianallen0826 When my schedule permits.
A well machined gear should not need deburring
Well machined gears sadly are handled poorly. It has nothing to do with the machining but more to do with the idiots packing and handling the parts. Almost all damage is caused by material handling issues.
So why even use the 17 tooth
Expense and compatibility. I