2K11 and previous 2Ks freethrows used to be shot with the right stick where you had to pull down and push up to make the shot. 2K17 was the first one where they implemented shot aiming as well.
Go look at real 2k16-17 park gameplay hop jumpers… that’s how they need to have where u can dribble out of moves and stuff but if they make it slow and have u gather and a bunch of extra stuff then it’s gon be pointless
Shoutout to Joe, one of the few that understands the game goes beyond the modes he play. I play most of the MyPlayer modes too, but also a ton of MyNBA so the ProPlay animations is definitely a feature that interests me. Two things I just wanted to note though. -You can cancel hop jumpers in 23 & 24, but the delay was so bad that it was useless (sure you of all people know this). I’m assuming they tuned it so you can break out at any point & DaCzar also confirmed that it’s not just exclusive to the right stick anymore, you can use square/X to cancel out of any jumpshots like we did back in 2K16 -I think right stick ripper is gone this year, Mike Wang said you won’t be able to reach while holding L2, right stick will mainly be those new cutoffs to get body up animations. You can only swipe with the right stick while not being in a defensive stance.
They need better 6’10 animations. I’m not saying as cheesy, but if KD, Wemby can dribble and create space, there should be better ones for the tall wings or playmaking centers
10:38 THAT IS THE POINT OF LOCKDOWNS. If someone has great defense with high steal, he’s supposed to steal the ball more easily than others. And stealing is always easier when you’re dribbling, just like IRL. That’s when the ball is vulnerable. That’s why taller people IRL just uses their shoulders to shield the defenders, to keep them at bay
Even IRL no matter how good of a defender you are they are not swiping 24/7. They will reach thyself out if the play. Most defenders rely in effort and cutting people off not going for steals. Most steals come from passing lanes or fumbled dribbles.
Yea bro these people don’t understand it’s not about nerfing steal it’s about balancing the builds to have more limits while also being great at what they do but instead 2k and the community want this terrible builder that is essentially the same build, with this builder you don’t even need to be a lockdown to steal the ball
You’re right about the hop jumpers but it was also only the step backs you could hesi out of now he’s making it sound like you can hesi/dribble out of any shooting animation so he shoulda just said they upgraded it not its new
I KNOW WHAT TO REMEMBER THEY STOP MAKING XBOX ONE GAMES.. SO NOW THEY CAN FOCUS MORE ON THE XBOX SERIES X POWER OFF WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GETTING FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS
Bro this facts like idk what 2k has to do but if locks gonna always argue “I got high steal so I get 12 steals a game” like we invest alot of our builder points for high ball control and I feel they have to implement something in the dribbling that can counter the reach attempts or something. You literally have to be meta to get by locks and thats not even talking blitzes or press lol lockdown defense should be more about altering shots and cut offs more than spamming square IMO
Me and my homies not buying it this year, gonna branch off into some different games instead but I’ll still be watching your vids, can’t wait for the ProAm matchups.
Easily the best critical non bias non Glazy breakdown ive heard so far. Joe knows understands the game in a different way so i get his concerns with all these new buzz word features
The only way I see rhythm shooting being used online is for catch and shoot. I'm hoping it's something you can turn off. Same thing with the defensive movement thing. Using the right stick to do cutoffs is gonna be weird, and having to release L2 or LT to use the right stick to steal... I guess you could consider that skill required
Is it just me, or when Mike goes to explain something about gameplay mechanics and animations it just seems like he rambling and don’t really know what to expect .. oh and Zens will DEFINITELY be back in 25.. no question
@@kamay7021 I believe there is some type of software made to prevent cheating.. also, if that were the case then where were these Zens in older 2ks on console ?
@@TakeThe2s There is none.. its only Xbox or PS that can stop it. There's been zens on console since 2K17. They didn't get big until 2K20 though. Zens didn't really exist before 2K17, wasn't a big product or anything and 2K just wasn't a thought - it was mostly for CoD and Mortal Kombat.
@@Gmmmmmmmac I’m not saying it was impossible, they just weren’t used much and people enjoyed the game more. That’s what’s wrong with the game. It ain’t fun because of cheaters.
It been that way, you notice how a decent amount of bigger streamers barely play park or Rec most only play for money as a job and i don’t blame them, the game isn’t trash but it couldve been a lot better
No matter what the controls are these settings changes and modifications. This doesn’t warrant us spending another $420.00 on a game, clothing and new builds
Ik everyone saying they doin’t want to get the game myself included so it might be a year I don’t play it but if everything about the game that was negative this year turns into at least a neutral or 50/50 situations the game may be decent i just am weary about paying 70 dollars for a game that has been fun with friend but has trended down fast
IN MY OPINION WHAT THEY SHOULD DO WITH THESE NEW ANIMATION IS IF YOU EQUIPPED LIKE SAY ALLEN IVERSON CROSSOVER WITH A KOBE BRYANT CROSSOVER IT BECOMES A HYBRID BETWEEN BOTH THAT MAKES A NEW ANIMATION WITHIN THOSE MOVES.. OR EVEN EQUIPPED TWO SHOOTING STARLIGHT MICHAEL JORDAN SHOOTING HYBRID WITH STEPH CURRY JUMP SHOT AND THEN IT BECOMES A WHOLE NEW SHOOTING ANIMATION BETWEEN BOTH PLAYERS THAT WOULD BE NEXT LEVEL RIGHT THERE
The rhythm shooting won’t work not much time process flicking down and up in when your in a pocket in a 5v5 this in theory works better against cpu play now
I made a 99 steal build and it wasn't op some bums you play you might get 10 steals but when playing a good player you might get 3 and 3 steals for a 95-99 is not worth it and they're still crying
Bump Mike Wayne and Ronnie ima forever feel like that till I see a new 2k where we can play any game Mode on the city people begged for competitive 2k and now we got that now we having issues with not being able to play cages wen we want to on next gen plus they took out the 3v3 AI
2k needs to let pro players test out the game in a beta. Then get feed back from pro players , the people who actually play the game. Cod does this and has had success in that regard
A lot of these things were already in the game if you knew what you were doing. Like shot canceling. It’s been in the game for years. Idk why they’re calling it a new feature.
First comment and noti gang and I love your videos Joe on both channels and keep going and also have you or any of black market changed jumpshots lately?
they say 9000 new animations every year im starting to be to think those animations are my team pack opening animations cuz the park just been getting reskinned the past couple years
One thing I can say that I like is the dribbling will have no pauses in between that’s the only new thing we’ll see and feel noticeably but it’s good as a start towards new shit for proplay to work I guess but the dribbling will be seemless this year based off what I’m seeing it’s hard to tell it’s too early need real gameplay
I won’t buy this game unless they’ve fixed and updated the MyNBA (MyGM) on PS5, starting with being able to communicate with Players; Staff; Owners; and the Media. Trust, Morale, and Chemistry needs to be fixed (using communication). We also need an updated Skill Tree that makes sense. College Football 25; Madden 25; EAFC25 are all improving their Career Modes. It's about time 2K did the same.
Those pro moves are gonna be reeeally selective like before 😂 jimmy butler step back got ppl the most space and thats what 90% used same with murray bhb , wall cross , kobe cross
People get pro play and actually animations that you equip on your my player wrong. Pro play is only really used and effective when playing the play now mode.
@@recordingstudio5723 i understand that Vro, its just that most ppl don’t even touch that mode at all most play mycareer and myteam and many of those animations won’t cut it at all which is sad 😢 i remember 2k20 you could slap on a decent amount of animations and cook up
This all was “supposed“ to be in the game last year. I thought all this “authenticity” was what ProPlay was supposed to be! 2k is a joke and they think we’re clowns
95% of Mfs play the same way in pro am😂😂 so of course not even 1000 animations gonna be used 😂 ya gonna run straight to the broken stuff instead of being ya self and putting what rocks with you the best 😂 ya would force ya self to be like the next man over and over
@@6r00vin187because he’s telling his truth even though it’s not the same game I will say the gameplay from 20 to 24 has changed drastically and the improvement they made on 2k is just graphics and scenery other than that the gameplay has been stale since 20
The sound of right stick ripper got me crying 😂
Another year another joe knows goes crazy with the builders & the builds
2K11 and previous 2Ks freethrows used to be shot with the right stick where you had to pull down and push up to make the shot. 2K17 was the first one where they implemented shot aiming as well.
That rhythm shooting was on nba elite 11 which ended up getting canceled 😂. Back when mike wang worked at ea
Wow
Holding down the joystick has always allowed you to dribble into the shot
I get wym on the hop jumper but most of em give you that stupid ahh pause after cancelling then you get mookied smh
No offense but I know you a old head lol. I haven't heard that term since the 90's lol.
"Mookie'd" 😂
@@bmoreboy8865😂😂😂
@@bmoreboy8865 none taken G. Maybe in spirit but I’m only 25 🤣
@@damonteteal9952 damn unc
Go look at real 2k16-17 park gameplay hop jumpers… that’s how they need to have where u can dribble out of moves and stuff but if they make it slow and have u gather and a bunch of extra stuff then it’s gon be pointless
W mans
The shot cancellation feature is the one that got me 😂😂, we have been able to do that in almost every 2k.
Yeah the music being louder than Mike talking you can just tell this shit bout to be a flop
😂😂😂😂😂 real Gang
lmaoooooo the music playing while mike wang talking
I was ctfu bro 😂
Shoutout to Joe, one of the few that understands the game goes beyond the modes he play. I play most of the MyPlayer modes too, but also a ton of MyNBA so the ProPlay animations is definitely a feature that interests me.
Two things I just wanted to note though.
-You can cancel hop jumpers in 23 & 24, but the delay was so bad that it was useless (sure you of all people know this). I’m assuming they tuned it so you can break out at any point & DaCzar also confirmed that it’s not just exclusive to the right stick anymore, you can use square/X to cancel out of any jumpshots like we did back in 2K16
-I think right stick ripper is gone this year, Mike Wang said you won’t be able to reach while holding L2, right stick will mainly be those new cutoffs to get body up animations. You can only swipe with the right stick while not being in a defensive stance.
They need better 6’10 animations. I’m not saying as cheesy, but if KD, Wemby can dribble and create space, there should be better ones for the tall wings or playmaking centers
“I thought it was Mike wung, am I tripping?!?!” 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"MIKE WONG" 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
He’s high asf 😂😂
that's how you actually pronounce it lol.
More like “Mike Wrong”.
that’s literally how u pronounce it😭😭😭😭😭
@@recordingstudio5723😂😂😂😂😂
Balls Stank!!!!!!🤯😱👺
The big question is, will we be forced again to play with 60 Ovr players and get banned if we leave the game before it starts?
10:38 THAT IS THE POINT OF LOCKDOWNS. If someone has great defense with high steal, he’s supposed to steal the ball more easily than others. And stealing is always easier when you’re dribbling, just like IRL. That’s when the ball is vulnerable. That’s why taller people IRL just uses their shoulders to shield the defenders, to keep them at bay
Just say you wanna spam square
No player with 95 ball handle is getting plucked 10 times in one game be real
Even IRL no matter how good of a defender you are they are not swiping 24/7. They will reach thyself out if the play. Most defenders rely in effort and cutting people off not going for steals. Most steals come from passing lanes or fumbled dribbles.
Yea bro these people don’t understand it’s not about nerfing steal it’s about balancing the builds to have more limits while also being great at what they do but instead 2k and the community want this terrible builder that is essentially the same build, with this builder you don’t even need to be a lockdown to steal the ball
Every year, Mike Wang says this is what his new favorite features
14:30 gonna be crazy with stick drift
😂😂😂
But a fresh remote for 25
As soon as I heard the courts were gonna be bigger, I thought of black market 😂😂 the community is in trouble
Its so crazy to me that people play my player like that ive been playin 2k since 08 and never goten into it
Me neither bro I never got into myplayer
Never spunt a dime on VC
You’re right about the hop jumpers but it was also only the step backs you could hesi out of now he’s making it sound like you can hesi/dribble out of any shooting animation so he shoulda just said they upgraded it not its new
I KNOW WHAT TO REMEMBER THEY STOP MAKING XBOX ONE GAMES.. SO NOW THEY CAN FOCUS MORE ON THE XBOX SERIES X POWER OFF WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GETTING FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS
hop jumper cheese from 2k16 is going to be back
Bro this facts like idk what 2k has to do but if locks gonna always argue “I got high steal so I get 12 steals a game” like we invest alot of our builder points for high ball control and I feel they have to implement something in the dribbling that can counter the reach attempts or something. You literally have to be meta to get by locks and thats not even talking blitzes or press lol lockdown defense should be more about altering shots and cut offs more than spamming square IMO
Me and my homies not buying it this year, gonna branch off into some different games instead but I’ll still be watching your vids, can’t wait for the ProAm matchups.
u like the right stick ripper sound don't you Joe
The rhythm shooting sounds like 2k12 shooting which is what I liked.
Easily the best critical non bias non Glazy breakdown ive heard so far. Joe knows understands the game in a different way so i get his concerns with all these new buzz word features
The new shooting I see it being useful to corner shooters who are wide open
The only way I see rhythm shooting being used online is for catch and shoot. I'm hoping it's something you can turn off. Same thing with the defensive movement thing. Using the right stick to do cutoffs is gonna be weird, and having to release L2 or LT to use the right stick to steal... I guess you could consider that skill required
NAH W ZELDA SHIRT JOE I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOUR GAME
9000 new animations. That can be motion styles , park celebrations, green animations
If they listened to this man there game would be a top seller of all games that come out every year
I hate how they bring “Mike Wrong” out every year like they’ve really implemented some ground breaking additions to the game. Smh
Not believing anything they say until I see more gameplay so much need to get fixed especially a buff to steals now everybody plays with high steals 😂
Is it just me, or when Mike goes to explain something about gameplay mechanics and animations it just seems like he rambling and don’t really know what to expect ..
oh and Zens will DEFINITELY be back in 25.. no question
They can’t patch zens lol
@@kamay7021 I believe there is some type of software made to prevent cheating.. also, if that were the case then where were these Zens in older 2ks on console ?
@@TakeThe2s There is none.. its only Xbox or PS that can stop it. There's been zens on console since 2K17. They didn't get big until 2K20 though. Zens didn't really exist before 2K17, wasn't a big product or anything and 2K just wasn't a thought - it was mostly for CoD and Mortal Kombat.
@@TakeThe2sthey were still there
@@Gmmmmmmmac I’m not saying it was impossible, they just weren’t used much and people enjoyed the game more. That’s what’s wrong with the game. It ain’t fun because of cheaters.
Joe energy is waay different I don’t think he believes in 2k like he used to😳
It been that way, you notice how a decent amount of bigger streamers barely play park or Rec most only play for money as a job and i don’t blame them, the game isn’t trash but it couldve been a lot better
He never reacted like a maniac to this shitty august promo videos, idk tf u talking about 😂
None of us do
@@itsBATMAYNEALOT BETTER . It’s damn near 2025
Bring back shot aiming for layups please that ish was so fun 😭
see i dont do dat. i hit my steezo moves i be moving around the court
Shouldn’t have to move the stick down then up. Just hold it down and release, putting way too much into it
Joe is hella funny. “I thought it was Mike Wong” 😂😂😂
Most 2k players suck thats why complain i gotta be real 😂 2k is a great game
its groundbreaking bro wow true
No matter what the controls are these settings changes and modifications. This doesn’t warrant us spending another $420.00 on a game, clothing and new builds
I play with the right stick now
Rhythm shooting sound like how PGA 2k23 depending how fast you move the right stick will determine if you ball goes straight
Ik everyone saying they doin’t want to get the game myself included so it might be a year I don’t play it but if everything about the game that was negative this year turns into at least a neutral or 50/50 situations the game may be decent i just am weary about paying 70 dollars for a game that has been fun with friend but has trended down fast
IN MY OPINION WHAT THEY SHOULD DO WITH THESE NEW ANIMATION IS IF YOU EQUIPPED LIKE SAY ALLEN IVERSON CROSSOVER WITH A KOBE BRYANT CROSSOVER IT BECOMES A HYBRID BETWEEN BOTH THAT MAKES A NEW ANIMATION WITHIN THOSE MOVES.. OR EVEN EQUIPPED TWO SHOOTING STARLIGHT MICHAEL JORDAN SHOOTING HYBRID WITH STEPH CURRY JUMP SHOT AND THEN IT BECOMES A WHOLE NEW SHOOTING ANIMATION BETWEEN BOTH PLAYERS THAT WOULD BE NEXT LEVEL RIGHT THERE
so are they going back to how it was in 2k16-17 to where if you hit a direction on the analogs it would command your character to do its own combo?🤨🤔
I’m not buying 2k until they show they care about us same game 4 years in a row is crazy work
when they say "dribble like" or "shoot like" ... i hope they mean in terms of EFFECTIVENESS and not simply HOW THE ANIMATION LOOKS.
How old is this channel I just found it
Imo you should get a steal when the ball handler is dribbling still, but there has to be a skill to it, there’s just too big of a window right now
16:38 already existed or am I tripping ??
Joe always keeps it real
The rhythm shooting won’t work not much time process flicking down and up in when your in a pocket in a 5v5 this in theory works better against cpu play now
Will there be at least 80% of the new animations on launch lol because 24 they hid everything behind seasons
I made a 99 steal build and it wasn't op some bums you play you might get 10 steals but when playing a good player you might get 3 and 3 steals for a 95-99 is not worth it and they're still crying
They making it more real . No more spam
Bump Mike Wayne and Ronnie ima forever feel like that till I see a new 2k where we can play any game Mode on the city people begged for competitive 2k and now we got that now we having issues with not being able to play cages wen we want to on next gen plus they took out the 3v3 AI
2k needs to let pro players test out the game in a beta. Then get feed back from pro players , the people who actually play the game. Cod does this and has had success in that regard
The revision of the dunk meter contest is 2ks attempt to help everyone against I wonder who?????
People thats that close to the game don't tell him what's wrong knowing what's going on
did this man not use stick shooting last year???????????????
A lot of these things were already in the game if you knew what you were doing. Like shot canceling. It’s been in the game for years. Idk why they’re calling it a new feature.
I think the right stick meter shooting is going to be like Dunkin
I think it’s go be ass
@@marlocash8616 I agree we don’t need an extra way to shoot
It’s always been in the game I never shot with x I always used my right stick
@@BigDilf3 this is different it’s two motions with the stick not one
They gave us new stuff and we still complain 😭
I always shoot right stick
They are gonna end up making NBA Elite 2K25 with all these extra right stick movements.
It’s the same game , people falling for it again and again
Pro am will feel the exact same
I need to know what badges they added or subtracted and the requirements for said badges/animations before I make my first build this year 😂😂
First comment and noti gang and I love your videos Joe on both channels and keep going and also have you or any of black market changed jumpshots lately?
If they really work that hesi for real ts would be crazy
5:56😭
they say 9000 new animations every year im starting to be to think those animations are my team pack opening animations cuz the park just been getting reskinned the past couple years
That’s the song they used for the video ?I put it on my short video when I dunk on somebody 😂
Good thing I only play MyCareer. Don’t have time to deal with the toxic community.
One thing I can say that I like is the dribbling will have no pauses in between that’s the only new thing we’ll see and feel noticeably but it’s good as a start towards new shit for proplay to work I guess but the dribbling will be seemless this year based off what I’m seeing it’s hard to tell it’s too early need real gameplay
I thought it was Mike Wong am I tripping 😂😂🤣🤣
I won’t buy this game unless they’ve fixed and updated the MyNBA (MyGM) on PS5, starting with being able to communicate with Players; Staff; Owners; and the Media. Trust, Morale, and Chemistry needs to be fixed (using communication). We also need an updated Skill Tree that makes sense. College Football 25; Madden 25; EAFC25 are all improving their Career Modes. It's about time 2K did the same.
Those pro moves are gonna be reeeally selective like before 😂 jimmy butler step back got ppl the most space and thats what 90% used same with murray bhb , wall cross , kobe cross
People get pro play and actually animations that you equip on your my player wrong. Pro play is only really used and effective when playing the play now mode.
@@recordingstudio5723 i understand that Vro, its just that most ppl don’t even touch that mode at all most play mycareer and myteam and many of those animations won’t cut it at all which is sad 😢 i remember 2k20 you could slap on a decent amount of animations and cook up
Joe correcting Mike Wang for any bs he says or pulls, I LUV IT!
Correcting? Is Joe the main developer of the game?
@@Asterisk-hj4lxyou gotta be slow
@@romansalpas2890 not really no, the truth is we can’t say anything bad or good about it until the game comes out or a longer trailer comes out
@@Asterisk-hj4lx I can say that 2ks a trash greedy company with or without a trailer though🤷♂️
@@Asterisk-hj4lxcan we say honestly that we can see from trailer 24 to trailer 25 that it looks like 90% of the same game from the previous year?!!??
this dude yappin for 20 mins
Forget all the noise you are coming out of retirement or nah
rip tmac & patty😢😢
I’m tweaking or every next gen 2k look the exact same 😭 all the money went into sweat mechanics
they focusing on the WRONG things
the players already look realistic, what more do you think your $500 console can do
Thts fire bro u saw my comment. I appreciate the response
This all was “supposed“ to be in the game last year. I thought all this “authenticity” was what ProPlay was supposed to be! 2k is a joke and they think we’re clowns
This might be the year Joe will be a 60 win percentage 😂
Time to spend another 1000 then quit 4 months before the release of 2k26
thank god im not buying this shit, ima still watch joe tho
@Joseph-Knowseph what?!
CAN YOU TELL 2K ADD SELECTING TEAMS BACK IN PLAY NOW ONLINE
95% of Mfs play the same way in pro am😂😂 so of course not even 1000 animations gonna be used 😂 ya gonna run straight to the broken stuff instead of being ya self and putting what rocks with you the best 😂 ya would force ya self to be like the next man over and over
ya its crazy to me how little creativity and moves players in 2k league and top pro am teams have
Only part interesting me is that rhythm shooting realistic dribble to shot mechanic buh Ik 2k gonn fuck it up
real player is in offline not online
why do people get excited every year for the same game? That’s like getting the same thing for Christmas every year and you’re excited.😂😂😂😂
Why are you even here ?
@@6r00vin187because he’s telling his truth even though it’s not the same game I will say the gameplay from 20 to 24 has changed drastically and the improvement they made on 2k is just graphics and scenery other than that the gameplay has been stale since 20
2k has been awful since 2k19
@@Jones309 in which aspect? Cuz I know your telling a bold face lie full of folklore if u say dribbling or build variety In archetypes
@@Jones309Awful ? You just suck bro 😂
They used the worst sound track for that interview 💀💀
I believe this won’t be the best 2k ever but it’ll be far from the worst
Take out this season bullshit. Give us access to every animation off rip especially if you're hyping it up like this