Let us know in the comments your lists and what you think we got right and wrong! Check Slate out right here! It's worth it - she streams like 5 days a week: www.youtube.com/@Slate_Gaming
Slate pronounced Aracha the way it should be, You yourself were not sure. How do you say "arachnophobia"? Cut the "phobia" part off and there you have it.
Had SUCH a great time doing this collab with you and discussing all the legendary Lords - thanks for having me on, and I look forward to our next nerd out!
Dude I have to say this is probably the greatest day on my summons. I did my summons for the 1 plus 1. I was debating whether to wait for a silas banner because I'm f2p and I had 100 blue summons and 10k diamonds. But I did it anyways and literally got hatssut and silas for the first time. I am speechless and shaking right now. I did quite lot of good deeds these 3 days and maybe this is the reward for that. I'm so happy right now I hope everyone else gets lucky as I am and gets what they want. Love from sri lanka.
Awesome ranking guys .Ftp here, I pulled Valderon with 4 ancients when i was level 30 😂 totally agree with Fasti , he is one-man-band !! mannn i am SO grateful i pulled him !!! He just obliterate everything on his way and literally carried all my squad trough tons of content!!! 🔥🔥
Wow, wow, wow! Great video... I don't own enough of these to say anything intelligent about your ranking, but in general I would say that it proves that context is everything: Depending on why you use a lord or what other heroes you have, these could go up or down a few spots. And I want to agree with both of you that Torodor is just amazing. I got him early, and I am super lucky that I did. So thanks for a great video!
Can I also throw out how much I love that we have Persona music in the background of the Majority of videos with Fasti. Lol. Love the videos, thanks for all the info!
Thank you guys, I spent days and hours watching lots of videos trying to make the best possible decision, I gotta admit I was between Silas and Laya(now it looks obvious) basically I have vierna and want that duo so bad...but Laya has a 0.04% summoning rate (it's like WTF developers are you kidding me?) so finally after mindless hours I got Laya and she is on good hands
Started my ranking halfway through the video (when you were ranking the 9th), 1. Pope - have - got in 9th month 2. Valderon - have - pushed my team to 50k GB - got in the 5-6th month of playing 3. Ingrid - don't have really want 4. Iovar - have - helped me pass the Soleil boss in Void Rift got in 8th month 5. Torodor - have got in 7-8th month 6. Cyrus - have - helped me pass VR Nightmare - got in 3rd month (the reason he is low is because I don't use esoterists almost anywhere). 7. Solcadens - don't have really want 8. Twinfiend - don't have really want 9. Morrigan - have A2 no SS used - got in 1-2nd month 10. Laya - don't have, want as a hero, not as a lord 11. Demi - don't have, don't need 12. Aracha - have, got her after immediately after Iovar, she is literally level 1 right now - got in 8th month. 13. Ghan - don't have, don't need 14. Venoma - don't have, don't need 15. King Harz - don't have, don't need 16. Elddr - don't have, don't need Edit: I started receiving lords after passing almost all early-mid game content.
I actually appreciate the love for cyrus. I've been wanting him for like as long as I've been wanting t3 fasti with the bleached short hair! Lol jk all love, your videos are probably my most watched yt videos.
One thing I never see anyone talk about, but the ally shield buff that King Harz dishes out happens whether you deploy him or not. Bringing him as a lord for your northerners and not deploying him is something that I do a lot in PVE.
Just started 1 day ago and as a new player I'm very confused! There's a Vierna and Silas banner for newbies and then a special invocation with khamet and Beatrix banner in a couple days. Which do I save for?? I pulled nyx and rerolled because I see she isn't top tier and I'd like a good start!
Nice collab! Love Slate's content. As a Venoma owner, but not a Demi owner, I disagree with both rankings. I think the Venoma Lord Skill should rank her higher than she is, though I'm persuaded by the argument that it is more impactful for progression than end game. As for Demi I agree with Fastidious' points regarding her kit, though I still rank Morrigan higher. In addition to Slate's points, I think Morrigan has the br cultist lord skill, and for me, at least, her DPS is decent. Laya at 12, what a shocker. I only just got her, so I'm hoping that is a minority opinion and she's more impactful than that. I don't disagree with either Solcadens or Aracha rankings. Its a matter of perspective. I think Solcadens is a stronger hero than Lord, and Aracha seems a better Lord for what she enables for the heroes in her faction than a standalone hero. I actually view Torodor in a similar light to Aracha, but more useful as a standalone. My top 5, based mostly on reputation and showcases, since I only own Praetus, are 5-Cyrus , 4-Iovar , 3-Valderon , 2-Ingrid , 1-Praetus
Demi is much better than people give her credit for. She single handily wrecked my final stages of the enhanced gear raid . If you place her at the junction platform tile where the top path and left path meet before the nexus .. and she’s built well… her ultimate and slow will absolutely decimate everything coming thru
I might have made my comment before I watched far enough to hear you say that lol. I paused when I heard she was 15 and was like nah I need to throw my opinion in on this lol… the I unpaused and you literally said what I just posted haha
Great video! I can get behind both lists. The only one that "shocked" me was Slate having Solcadens at 10. Mine is A3 now, but even when he was A0 I used him pretty much everywhere. He carried my GB1 team until I got Hex's exclusive and he's the highest DPS in one of my GB2 teams. I use him a lot in void rift and codex as well. I got Praetus early on my second account and he carried me through tons of content. Bad thing is that I missed the Alistair fusion and it took me forever to pull another arbiter (Constance) so I still haven't unlocked his true potential. I really do hope they run the Alistair fusion again.
@@MdnightWnd I agree 100%, alot of people missed him as well and he is very handy unless you get lucky and stack the Arbiters from Ancients. I only have Pope, Alistair, and Constance after pulling a lot of ancients over the year and change ive played
Currently 2100 points on aoe arena with elddr valkyra ardea elowyn cyrene. Other than that great lists. I love the pvp focused list from slate and the "what everyone thinks" list of fasti
I have question. Would u choose harz over isolde? Where if so. Having isolde i use her her in places or if someone dies she defender and holds the line... so do you use him anywhere besides gvg over isolde?
In defense of Harz, if you are using Brokkir, you'll just use Harz. Gives lord with a deployable tank. As a duo there are arguably none better for tanks. I use Harz in more areas than any other lord, full stop. Regulus being better means nothing because I'll still be using Harz over him.
73 days in (but wasted the first 30ish a year or so ago w/0 knowledge of the game) and I just pulled Morrigan and Aracha during the Kigiri and Xaris banners 😁 Morrigan has been great mainly because I had Vierna already. Aracha has been great because I had so much content to still clear and giving my piercers the extra damage and range has been HUGE. Also boosted me in Arena significantly.
Valderon is definitly top 3...i dont have ingrid and praetus but i have valderon since he came out...he solo me the void rift nightmare...he solos all hard bosses...he is my best damage dealer on my guildboss comb and with him and torodor i could reach 50 k with him it was possible for me to come pvp to overlord...hes just a beast and in guildwar hes a monster to and i am in a top guild....love him so much
I’m sure there are more than me and Hawkis that will die on the hill that Solcadens is a top 5 lord. He can one shot most bosses. Even by himself with no faction members he hits hard as hell also his hits can kill more than one target so he’s not just single target. He can be used in so many places…..
@@fastidious_ggI could argue that. But you're a busy man and not enough time to listen to my ranting and raving 😂. But yeah, I'm on that hill with Vice.
@@Binzob It's an issue of not understanding him or using him right. He can kill the boss early in gear raid 1. He is the single best mage for gear dungeon 2. He can kill the magic clones in both lanes by himself and you never need to despawn him. Unless someone can prove me wrong, no other mage can do that. As for Apoc 2, He's on my 250k team. Plenty of other content like void rift he's absolutely goated. Just instantly deletes all the bosses so they aren't even a factor. I can go on and on 😁.
@@Binzob Fair enough. He's my personal #4. And I do put Pope Ingrid and Torodor ahead of him in terms of versatility which covers most of that content.
@@Hawkis90glad to see other Solcadens lovers... i can subscribe all your words 😃 he is my only dps lord and he is amazing (that super range is goat in gd2, i put him and setram so i never have to cycle physical and magical damage, just need to control what ultimate do before and after) he needs a faster ultimate to be good in single arena, now i struggle because valderon and praetus instantly kill the enemies...
I pulled him like 4-5 months before his banner while doing dishes after dinner lol randomly pulling 11 ancients and seen his cinema and had no idea who it was or how strong he was. Then pulled 76 ancients on his banner and got nothing but a dang Torodor who i never use.
I do not pick king harz every time. When gear dungeon 1 and 2 first came out I was able to clear GD1 because of Elddr as he boosted my Valk's attack high enough to kill the adds. He did the same for me when the higher levels came out recently. I do think he needs a buff though.
300Days in and i "only got" in ordner of pulling: Iovar, Praetus, Aracha. So sure i have 2 of the best lords which is insanely lucky, on the other hand i miss every other faction (and sadly i only have 3 arbiters so far). I saved up 150+ ancients, which means I will get a guaranteed lord once i pull those, I am still not sure on which banner i should do that 😕
Good video, but Slate missed the mark big time on Ghan. I have Brokkir, trusk and regulus, but i nearly always use Ghan. In rare circumstances in void rift, Ill use Reg if i need more tank, but Ghan can usually hack it, and the 8 block abd aoe damage he does is so good.
good point about the damage. not so useful later on, but for progression is actually quite strong AND he is the only real viable DEF based DPS so you know all the best pieces like that can go straight to him
@@fastidious_gg fasti fasti fasti u know I have hated elder since day one and will countinue to do so until he gets a good exclusive gear piece artifact or buff. #lordbuffsmatter(not pope or Ingrid)
I pulled Cyrus very early. Before I really knew what a lord was. My account is mid-end game. Good heroes, mediocre gear. Esoteria is the only faction I have completed. No Elowyn or Boreas. Cyrus was my carry for sure. I wish I knew what the "best build" is for him.
Wait... what do you mean Iovar has to be deployed to benefit from his lord skill? Do you mean the extra damage doesn't apply to his faction members unless he is deployed?
Sadly when I started this game I spent 3k going on a Torodor banner back in late February. I managed to get him A3 so the banner rate for ancients seemed great. Since then all my Lord pulls from ancients have been Hartz x2, Elder, Laya x2. I also pulled Venoma from regular summons. I have no other Leggo lords and after watching this I'm getting really depressed. Least I can see what I'm missing out on because of your list lol
While i agree with fasti list much more than slates, i agree with her take on valderon vs toredor (for context i have valderon but not toredor) however i would trade valder9n for a toredor in a heartbeat for the content i do, esp with how needed NM faction is. However his shot me up in arena and void rift so high once i got him lol
venoma is placed on my aoe pvp and gr1 team..you gotta build her well..she way more useful than harz..most dont know but her ult has an expanded range and smacks
Hmm... my aoe arena team is ardea valk dassoumi cost regen and harz and im really hoping to pull elddr cause it would increase dmg of both my dmg dealers. So probably not my 16th elddr
i hear you but that is a very specific circumstance. you are a strong but off-meta team with very rare heroes. and still this is the only place you could really swap elddr in and he will help you
@@fastidious_gg Oh yea and i pulled my a3 glacius today and was thinking could he be used as a stunner on semrah if build fast. There again would want Elddr over harz but still very specific tho.
Interesting video. At some points I agreed with Fastis list and at others I agreed with Slates. I've been incredibly lucky with my Lord pulls but I am missing a few of the good ones. My first ancient lego was iovar, I got Ingrid day one with 24 shards. I have Venoma, Harz, and twinfiend. I would absolutely love a Torodor, solcadens, cyrus, valderon, and of course, praetus. Keep making videos my man.
Only ancient legendary lord i have is Ghan, who is great, except the only good chaotic unit I have is valayria lol. His lord skill sounds busted but i just cant make use of it The lord probably need is a cursed unit one I use magda, artemis and hollow in a lot of content rn..
how could you place Harz so low in the ranking? he will be really sad!😭😭🤣🤣. to be serious, I find Harz a good unit, especially dealing with laseer boss in void rift. when I place him to stop laseer before silas, he freezes laseer and he is unable to attack my units so when I have medicore gear, I can go through hard mode without sweating just because of harz. gives nice shield. I agree dps is a joke, but as a tank I still like him. I am in King Harz team ;D
how does that justify a higher ranking though? that is one really niche area. he is great for aoe and single target but off-meta for both. everywhere he really is just not needed or important. no one is saying he is dogwater but he is the worst legendary lord
@fastidious_gg he provides utility to the whole team, to non faction allies. That is overlooked, besides he's a solid attacker and tanky. Demi, Vernoma, Harz are worse imo.
@@DSS-Renzokuken so does Harz with the shields except Harz is far more deployable. I think arguments for venoms or Demi could be made but elddr is better than harz in 3 niche areas. Harz is literally better everywhere else and can be deployed effectively as a tank. Elddr is almost always waste space, undeployable and his lord skill is inferior to Harz in 80% of content
@@DSS-Renzokuken man I’m just sharing my opinion. I’ve played with every lord across countless accounts. imo he is the worst. He is still A+ on my tier list. I’m glad you find a lot of use for him on your specific roster. He is good hero. But the worst lord
I have ghan on my main and really don't use him much. Use him on APOC, but I could use regulus as easily and wouln't see a difference. Ghan isn't meta for arena. So yeah. I think ghan is pretty mid, esp for an ancient exclusive.
I feel like your criteria are so different that its not really a comparison...you each are talking about different things. Fasti is a pretty accurate overall tier list and Slate is pure GvG rankings. Personally, I don't find that heavily weighting only one part of the game is suitable for a tier list (unless its a specific to GvG).
That's fair enough. Honestly, I would find it difficult to disagree much with your list. Even if you are under weighting GvG impact on ratings, it still would cover over 90% of the game. But ranking Harz and Morrigan can only be justified by a heavy bias towards a singular piece of content i.e. GvG. Perhaps it's also because I don't care much for GvG, but even considering that, it's one game mode. I think a more holistic view of the hero is appropriate for this kind of ranking. The only thing I could maybe agree on from Slate's perspective was Cyrus (who I really want). I could also possibly argue against you putting Torador over Ghan also, since I think you can use Ghan in more places but you are a bit biased towards boss content where Ghan doesn't bring much as a hero.
I will watch the full video later, but my opinion is that Fasti's list is much more realistic, accurate. Elddr is around 10th place, but thats all. The reason is the AoE arena.
one use in one arena mode for an off meta team is not enough to elevate him 6 spots. but point well taken. And take your time on the full video - it's LONG
I'm still on elddr side and know he can be used in PVP and pve content. I can prove it because I don't have the meta units and still doing well in the same content
I think solcadens was snubbed HARD i see him as easily better than cyrus and i have them both . Solcadens out damages my bonded areogance with wrose gear in gb1 and 2 without any infernal members and in void rift he just one shots anybody with his spirit bomb doesnt matter if they have magic resist
Am i the only one who has always thought there is like 10 lords since some lords are forgotten when stronger ones arrive XD and some are just pure trash.
Slate putting Ingrid at 4th just made her list null and void tbh. The fact she is a double fac lord and an arbiter! Saving my ancients for Ingrid banner or Praetus as nothing else really competes at end game. Def agree alot more with Fasti especially top 5. I need to watch Demi vids for GD1 as I have her fully skilled and just dont use her!
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Let us know in the comments your lists and what you think we got right and wrong!
Check Slate out right here! It's worth it - she streams like 5 days a week: www.youtube.com/@Slate_Gaming
Slate pronounced Aracha the way it should be, You yourself were not sure. How do you say "arachnophobia"? Cut the "phobia" part off and there you have it.
Had SUCH a great time doing this collab with you and discussing all the legendary Lords - thanks for having me on, and I look forward to our next nerd out!
Definitely enjoyed you being on. You are beautiful btw. Respectfully
Dude I have to say this is probably the greatest day on my summons. I did my summons for the 1 plus 1. I was debating whether to wait for a silas banner because I'm f2p and I had 100 blue summons and 10k diamonds. But I did it anyways and literally got hatssut and silas for the first time. I am speechless and shaking right now. I did quite lot of good deeds these 3 days and maybe this is the reward for that. I'm so happy right now I hope everyone else gets lucky as I am and gets what they want. Love from sri lanka.
Incredible man! Congrats to you
@@fastidious_gg thanks you
I don't usually watch videos that are this long, but I made an exception in this case because ranking videos like this are so helpful.
yea I know it's super long. hope ya liked it
Awesome ranking guys .Ftp here, I pulled Valderon with 4 ancients when i was level 30 😂 totally agree with Fasti , he is one-man-band !! mannn i am SO grateful i pulled him !!! He just obliterate everything on his way and literally carried all my squad trough tons of content!!! 🔥🔥
The Elddr slander will not go unpunished, I hope you only pull 2 twyla.
Somehow this didn’t age well 😂
Loved the vid was quite shocked at a few of slates ranks loved the explanations and you 2 need to collab more
Such a great video. Loved the different view points and the back a forth. SSS tier vid.
Glad to hear! really happy you enjoyed
Wow, wow, wow! Great video... I don't own enough of these to say anything intelligent about your ranking, but in general I would say that it proves that context is everything: Depending on why you use a lord or what other heroes you have, these could go up or down a few spots. And I want to agree with both of you that Torodor is just amazing. I got him early, and I am super lucky that I did. So thanks for a great video!
really glad you enjoyed it! hope you have many more lords coming ur way
Can I also throw out how much I love that we have Persona music in the background of the Majority of videos with Fasti. Lol. Love the videos, thanks for all the info!
Thank you guys, I spent days and hours watching lots of videos trying to make the best possible decision, I gotta admit I was between Silas and Laya(now it looks obvious) basically I have vierna and want that duo so bad...but Laya has a 0.04% summoning rate (it's like WTF developers are you kidding me?) so finally after mindless hours I got Laya and she is on good hands
Nice vid guys. Awesome discussion!
Started my ranking halfway through the video (when you were ranking the 9th),
1. Pope - have - got in 9th month
2. Valderon - have - pushed my team to 50k GB - got in the 5-6th month of playing
3. Ingrid - don't have really want
4. Iovar - have - helped me pass the Soleil boss in Void Rift got in 8th month
5. Torodor - have got in 7-8th month
6. Cyrus - have - helped me pass VR Nightmare - got in 3rd month (the reason he is low is because I don't use esoterists almost anywhere).
7. Solcadens - don't have really want
8. Twinfiend - don't have really want
9. Morrigan - have A2 no SS used - got in 1-2nd month
10. Laya - don't have, want as a hero, not as a lord
11. Demi - don't have, don't need
12. Aracha - have, got her after immediately after Iovar, she is literally level 1 right now - got in 8th month.
13. Ghan - don't have, don't need
14. Venoma - don't have, don't need
15. King Harz - don't have, don't need
16. Elddr - don't have, don't need
Edit: I started receiving lords after passing almost all early-mid game content.
Great vid. Ty for your time. Take care.
thanks jacob
Wasn't going to watch because of the length, but glad I did. Good perspective and discussion between a pve-er and a gvg-er.
I'm so pumped , I just got Nocturne last night and last week I've got Brokkir
"Having any legendary lord is fun" Fasti gona pull a5 harz soon :D
at this point I welcome it for the memes!
Don't curse our man with that MOJO! JK lol, ot would be funny though, that way he can add a little A5 next to his tattoo!
Great rank and explanations for each hero
I actually appreciate the love for cyrus. I've been wanting him for like as long as I've been wanting t3 fasti with the bleached short hair! Lol jk all love, your videos are probably my most watched yt videos.
One thing I never see anyone talk about, but the ally shield buff that King Harz dishes out happens whether you deploy him or not. Bringing him as a lord for your northerners and not deploying him is something that I do a lot in PVE.
Just started 1 day ago and as a new player I'm very confused! There's a Vierna and Silas banner for newbies and then a special invocation with khamet and Beatrix banner in a couple days. Which do I save for?? I pulled nyx and rerolled because I see she isn't top tier and I'd like a good start!
Paytus stores the cheatcodes in his book!!!!
haha must be
Game genie! Dating myself. But if you know you know.
Still cant believe we discussed Torodor on Friday and I yolo pulled him in the 1+1.
Love the slate colabs btw.
Yea she's awesome. wow I didn't realize you got Toro!! gg pink
Bout to binge this on a ride home
cheers. take your time - it ain't short
Nice collab! Love Slate's content.
As a Venoma owner, but not a Demi owner, I disagree with both rankings. I think the Venoma Lord Skill should rank her higher than she is, though I'm persuaded by the argument that it is more impactful for progression than end game. As for Demi I agree with Fastidious' points regarding her kit, though I still rank Morrigan higher. In addition to Slate's points, I think Morrigan has the br cultist lord skill, and for me, at least, her DPS is decent.
Laya at 12, what a shocker. I only just got her, so I'm hoping that is a minority opinion and she's more impactful than that.
I don't disagree with either Solcadens or Aracha rankings. Its a matter of perspective. I think Solcadens is a stronger hero than Lord, and Aracha seems a better Lord for what she enables for the heroes in her faction than a standalone hero. I actually view Torodor in a similar light to Aracha, but more useful as a standalone.
My top 5, based mostly on reputation and showcases, since I only own Praetus, are 5-Cyrus , 4-Iovar , 3-Valderon , 2-Ingrid , 1-Praetus
Demi is much better than people give her credit for. She single handily wrecked my final stages of the enhanced gear raid . If you place her at the junction platform tile where the top path and left path meet before the nexus .. and she’s built well… her ultimate and slow will absolutely decimate everything coming thru
Yea like I said she is ELITE for GR4 (GD1) that's why I had her as high as I did.
I might have made my comment before I watched far enough to hear you say that lol. I paused when I heard she was 15 and was like nah I need to throw my opinion in on this lol… the I unpaused and you literally said what I just posted haha
As someone who has Iovar and is FTP… I use him almost everytime. Soooooooo goooooood
Great video! I can get behind both lists. The only one that "shocked" me was Slate having Solcadens at 10. Mine is A3 now, but even when he was A0 I used him pretty much everywhere. He carried my GB1 team until I got Hex's exclusive and he's the highest DPS in one of my GB2 teams. I use him a lot in void rift and codex as well.
I got Praetus early on my second account and he carried me through tons of content. Bad thing is that I missed the Alistair fusion and it took me forever to pull another arbiter (Constance) so I still haven't unlocked his true potential. I really do hope they run the Alistair fusion again.
Alistair is in the summoning pool now so it’d be hard pressed to run that fusion again. Same boat as Krodor
@@ambionictranquility5928 Probably, but it would still be nice if they did.
@@MdnightWnd I agree 100%, alot of people missed him as well and he is very handy unless you get lucky and stack the Arbiters from Ancients. I only have Pope, Alistair, and Constance after pulling a lot of ancients over the year and change ive played
Currently 2100 points on aoe arena with elddr valkyra ardea elowyn cyrene. Other than that great lists. I love the pvp focused list from slate and the "what everyone thinks" list of fasti
I have question. Would u choose harz over isolde? Where if so. Having isolde i use her her in places or if someone dies she defender and holds the line... so do you use him anywhere besides gvg over isolde?
awesome vid!
Glad you enjoyed it
I think i have the same (more or less) rank opinion as Fasti's rank list!, ty
great minds ;)
In defense of Harz, if you are using Brokkir, you'll just use Harz. Gives lord with a deployable tank. As a duo there are arguably none better for tanks. I use Harz in more areas than any other lord, full stop. Regulus being better means nothing because I'll still be using Harz over him.
73 days in (but wasted the first 30ish a year or so ago w/0 knowledge of the game) and I just pulled Morrigan and Aracha during the Kigiri and Xaris banners 😁
Morrigan has been great mainly because I had Vierna already.
Aracha has been great because I had so much content to still clear and giving my piercers the extra damage and range has been HUGE. Also boosted me in Arena significantly.
Valderon is definitly top 3...i dont have ingrid and praetus but i have valderon since he came out...he solo me the void rift nightmare...he solos all hard bosses...he is my best damage dealer on my guildboss comb and with him and torodor i could reach 50 k with him it was possible for me to come pvp to overlord...hes just a beast and in guildwar hes a monster to and i am in a top guild....love him so much
I’m sure there are more than me and Hawkis that will die on the hill that Solcadens is a top 5 lord. He can one shot most bosses. Even by himself with no faction members he hits hard as hell also his hits can kill more than one target so he’s not just single target. He can be used in so many places…..
I still had him nearly there. Personally tho, not sure how you could argue him over toro, iovar and cyrus
@@fastidious_ggI could argue that. But you're a busy man and not enough time to listen to my ranting and raving 😂. But yeah, I'm on that hill with Vice.
@@Binzob It's an issue of not understanding him or using him right. He can kill the boss early in gear raid 1. He is the single best mage for gear dungeon 2. He can kill the magic clones in both lanes by himself and you never need to despawn him. Unless someone can prove me wrong, no other mage can do that. As for Apoc 2, He's on my 250k team. Plenty of other content like void rift he's absolutely goated. Just instantly deletes all the bosses so they aren't even a factor. I can go on and on 😁.
@@Binzob Fair enough. He's my personal #4. And I do put Pope Ingrid and Torodor ahead of him in terms of versatility which covers most of that content.
@@Hawkis90glad to see other Solcadens lovers... i can subscribe all your words 😃
he is my only dps lord and he is amazing (that super range is goat in gd2, i put him and setram so i never have to cycle physical and magical damage, just need to control what ultimate do before and after)
he needs a faster ultimate to be good in single arena, now i struggle because valderon and praetus instantly kill the enemies...
that priest man will be mine one day
hope you get him. I have given up at this point lol
I pulled him like 4-5 months before his banner while doing dishes after dinner lol randomly pulling 11 ancients and seen his cinema and had no idea who it was or how strong he was. Then pulled 76 ancients on his banner and got nothing but a dang Torodor who i never use.
40 away from ancient pity what banner should I wait for?
The new nightmare lord
I was lucky to pull Praetus as my second ancient pity, but I have Constance, Jeera, Pelagios, and Init so he's really strong wherever I use him.
I’ll have to watch this later 🤝
take your time. it's long as heck
If Ingrid isn’t #1 I’m unsubscribing though
Elddr feels underrated :( Great Video!
where do you think he makes a big difference in the game?
So far I got Praetus (OP👀), Solcadens, Aracha, Morrigan and Iovar.
Last praetus banner pulling 120 and got nothing next time im signing up for you to pull Fasty :) I need that CC luck
Sounds good. Usually I take all the bad luck on ancients and leave the good luck for viewers :)
I do not pick king harz every time. When gear dungeon 1 and 2 first came out I was able to clear GD1 because of Elddr as he boosted my Valk's attack high enough to kill the adds. He did the same for me when the higher levels came out recently. I do think he needs a buff though.
300Days in and i "only got" in ordner of pulling: Iovar, Praetus, Aracha.
So sure i have 2 of the best lords which is insanely lucky, on the other hand i miss every other faction (and sadly i only have 3 arbiters so far).
I saved up 150+ ancients, which means I will get a guaranteed lord once i pull those, I am still not sure on which banner i should do that 😕
My anchient pity : aracha = bad unit = a1 not needed = give it to him
lol
Good video, but Slate missed the mark big time on Ghan. I have Brokkir, trusk and regulus, but i nearly always use Ghan. In rare circumstances in void rift, Ill use Reg if i need more tank, but Ghan can usually hack it, and the 8 block abd aoe damage he does is so good.
good point about the damage. not so useful later on, but for progression is actually quite strong AND he is the only real viable DEF based DPS so you know all the best pieces like that can go straight to him
King hartz is very good in GVG behind a Brokir, has freeze and shields and improves Maul
I support any and all eldrr hate
It’s not hate just reality. He is super weak, especially for an ancient lord
@@fastidious_gg fasti fasti fasti u know I have hated elder since day one and will countinue to do so until he gets a good exclusive gear piece artifact or buff. #lordbuffsmatter(not pope or Ingrid)
What does Valderon do for his faction you may ask? Gives them all a long paid vacation.
Valdy is the nr. 1 boss.
hahah i love that
I pulled Cyrus very early. Before I really knew what a lord was. My account is mid-end game. Good heroes, mediocre gear. Esoteria is the only faction I have completed. No Elowyn or Boreas. Cyrus was my carry for sure. I wish I knew what the "best build" is for him.
My third account has pulled two lords, both Ingrid. At 3k pulls I would really like a different one for the third.
Wait... what do you mean Iovar has to be deployed to benefit from his lord skill? Do you mean the extra damage doesn't apply to his faction members unless he is deployed?
I can think of so many reasons why id pick Ghan over Valderon.
I just got my 1st torodor from ancients last week
Invigorating torodor for the win
I have cyrus and elowyn… makes my khamet ridiculous. So many ultimates.
Sadly when I started this game I spent 3k going on a Torodor banner back in late February. I managed to get him A3 so the banner rate for ancients seemed great. Since then all my Lord pulls from ancients have been Hartz x2, Elder, Laya x2. I also pulled Venoma from regular summons. I have no other Leggo lords and after watching this I'm getting really depressed. Least I can see what I'm missing out on because of your list lol
I have all the top lords f2p damn even p2w your luck is bad
If it makes you feel better I only have elddr which i pulled randomly(only 1970 ish summons in total though)
While i agree with fasti list much more than slates, i agree with her take on valderon vs toredor (for context i have valderon but not toredor) however i would trade valder9n for a toredor in a heartbeat for the content i do, esp with how needed NM faction is.
However his shot me up in arena and void rift so high once i got him lol
My top 6 is closer to Slates but my heroes after that are way closer to yours.
venoma is placed on my aoe pvp and gr1 team..you gotta build her well..she way more useful than harz..most dont know but her ult has an expanded range and smacks
I have to say switch elddr and demi on @fastidios side and it would be a correct ranking
fair enough. sorry we destroyed your boy. it's true tho :/
Oooo
indeed
1. fatman, 2 ingrid 3. silas 4 torodor 5 valderon.
i hv a2 laya and barely hv used her..i use to boost my single target damage only
I want to like demi , The thing I dislike is her range it just sucks for what she is good at doing it's too limited
Yes her range is only strong in GR4. Big negative everywhere else
Hmm... my aoe arena team is ardea valk dassoumi cost regen and harz and im really hoping to pull elddr cause it would increase dmg of both my dmg dealers. So probably not my 16th elddr
i hear you but that is a very specific circumstance. you are a strong but off-meta team with very rare heroes. and still this is the only place you could really swap elddr in and he will help you
But yeah very niche and surely give him buff and give me the champ also :D 16th for me venoma cause its only the rage regen and nothing else imo.
@@fastidious_gg Yup just came to mind as i was doing couple days ago all my arena defences
@@fastidious_gg Oh yea and i pulled my a3 glacius today and was thinking could he be used as a stunner on semrah if build fast. There again would want Elddr over harz but still very specific tho.
How high do you get with this team if you dont mind me asking? I run Hattsut, Khamet, Dolores, Cyrus, and Pope and cant get passed Plat3. 380k team
Interesting video. At some points I agreed with Fastis list and at others I agreed with Slates. I've been incredibly lucky with my Lord pulls but I am missing a few of the good ones. My first ancient lego was iovar, I got Ingrid day one with 24 shards. I have Venoma, Harz, and twinfiend. I would absolutely love a Torodor, solcadens, cyrus, valderon, and of course, praetus. Keep making videos my man.
wow you have some amazing lords gg!
Only ancient legendary lord i have is Ghan, who is great, except the only good chaotic unit I have is valayria lol.
His lord skill sounds busted but i just cant make use of it
The lord probably need is a cursed unit one
I use magda, artemis and hollow in a lot of content rn..
Also, i dont agree hartz is a solid tank, there are multiple epic tanks just way stronger.
@@jonathanwenta5305 yea i discussed that in the vid. I will say with full skills and end game gear he actually is a good tank, better than the epics
cannot relate to this cause i don't have any legendary lords😂😢 and knowing my luck i will pull the worst ones...
Harz is god tier tank at A1 in PVE
how could you place Harz so low in the ranking? he will be really sad!😭😭🤣🤣. to be serious, I find Harz a good unit, especially dealing with laseer boss in void rift. when I place him to stop laseer before silas, he freezes laseer and he is unable to attack my units so when I have medicore gear, I can go through hard mode without sweating just because of harz. gives nice shield. I agree dps is a joke, but as a tank I still like him. I am in King Harz team ;D
I think its a-RACK-uh. Like arachnid. Since she's a spider? Thats just what i think. Lol
Elddr is in my overlord pvp single target team. Guess you're not using him right.
how does that justify a higher ranking though? that is one really niche area. he is great for aoe and single target but off-meta for both. everywhere he really is just not needed or important. no one is saying he is dogwater but he is the worst legendary lord
@fastidious_gg he provides utility to the whole team, to non faction allies. That is overlooked, besides he's a solid attacker and tanky. Demi, Vernoma, Harz are worse imo.
@@DSS-Renzokuken so does Harz with the shields except Harz is far more deployable. I think arguments for venoms or Demi could be made but elddr is better than harz in 3 niche areas. Harz is literally better everywhere else and can be deployed effectively as a tank. Elddr is almost always waste space, undeployable and his lord skill is inferior to Harz in 80% of content
@@fastidious_gg crazy how he's in my gr2, gd1, st arena, nm void boss battles, epilogue, pretty much all the hardest content except gr1, gr3 and gd2.
@@DSS-Renzokuken man I’m just sharing my opinion. I’ve played with every lord across countless accounts. imo he is the worst. He is still A+ on my tier list. I’m glad you find a lot of use for him on your specific roster. He is good hero. But the worst lord
My first and only legendary lord is lovar
I have ghan on my main and really don't use him much. Use him on APOC, but I could use regulus as easily and wouln't see a difference. Ghan isn't meta for arena. So yeah. I think ghan is pretty mid, esp for an ancient exclusive.
i hear you but i disagree. for anyone who has chaotics and doesn't have valderon, ghan is quite meta and can carry you through overlord
For f2p Morrigan as first Lego lord and vierna as 1st lego i can say that i used morrigon a lot and she is a disappointment
I feel like your criteria are so different that its not really a comparison...you each are talking about different things. Fasti is a pretty accurate overall tier list and Slate is pure GvG rankings. Personally, I don't find that heavily weighting only one part of the game is suitable for a tier list (unless its a specific to GvG).
I really enjoyed having Slate's perspective since she is really hyper-focused on the game mode I'm least engaged with
what would your list be??
That's fair enough. Honestly, I would find it difficult to disagree much with your list. Even if you are under weighting GvG impact on ratings, it still would cover over 90% of the game. But ranking Harz and Morrigan can only be justified by a heavy bias towards a singular piece of content i.e. GvG. Perhaps it's also because I don't care much for GvG, but even considering that, it's one game mode. I think a more holistic view of the hero is appropriate for this kind of ranking. The only thing I could maybe agree on from Slate's perspective was Cyrus (who I really want). I could also possibly argue against you putting Torador over Ghan also, since I think you can use Ghan in more places but you are a bit biased towards boss content where Ghan doesn't bring much as a hero.
I will watch the full video later, but my opinion is that Fasti's list is much more realistic, accurate. Elddr is around 10th place, but thats all. The reason is the AoE arena.
one use in one arena mode for an off meta team is not enough to elevate him 6 spots. but point well taken.
And take your time on the full video - it's LONG
@@fastidious_gg After my child goes to sleep, I will start it.. I would like to hear different opinions, maybe it will change mine.
I think Slates view is influenced by GvG too much
RIP Ghan lol
she destroyed him
Damn poor Anthony
I know...
i sent him an apology dm. I really wish elddr was better. he couldn't look cooler imo
I'm still on elddr side and know he can be used in PVP and pve content. I can prove it because I don't have the meta units and still doing well in the same content
I think solcadens was snubbed HARD i see him as easily better than cyrus and i have them both . Solcadens out damages my bonded areogance with wrose gear in gb1 and 2 without any infernal members and in void rift he just one shots anybody with his spirit bomb doesnt matter if they have magic resist
A juicy Isolde lol
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lol wut? too long?
@@fastidious_gg No. Solc at 10 for Slate. 💔
Am i the only one who has always thought there is like 10 lords since some lords are forgotten when stronger ones arrive XD and some are just pure trash.
it is kinda crazy how many there are
Slate putting Ingrid at 4th just made her list null and void tbh. The fact she is a double fac lord and an arbiter! Saving my ancients for Ingrid banner or Praetus as nothing else really competes at end game. Def agree alot more with Fasti especially top 5. I need to watch Demi vids for GD1 as I have her fully skilled and just dont use her!
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Harz is good , you're just spoiled
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It’s a rankings list for Legendary Lords. Hope that helps
tldw... its like you are making a video for your own life rather than reasonably considering the viewers time and interest
it's a long podcast style video. we make that clear from the start. skip to the end if you just want to see the rankings
@@fastidious_gg haha, its fine bro. dont worry.
I support any and all eldrr hate
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