The Real Peter Mandelson

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  • Donald Macintyre's documentary was broadcast on 25 April 1999 as part of a series marking the second anniversary of the Labour government, but may have been greenlit before Mandelson's sudden resignation in December.
    Interviews: Miles Mandelson (brother), Steve Howell (school friend), Graham Good (from the Winchester Youth Club), Trevor Phillips (former President, National Union of Students), David Aaronovitch (journalist), David Cox (Editor, Weekend World), Neil Kinnock (Leader of the Labour Party), Colin Byrne (Labour Party Chief Press Officer), Joy Johnson (ITN Producer), Andy McSmith (Labour Party Press Officer), Tom Sawyer (Labour Party General Secretary), David Hill (Labour Party Head of Press), John Burton (Agent to Tony Blair), Robert Harris (author and journalist), Derek Draper (Assistant to Peter Mandelson), Benjamin Wegg-Prosser (Adviser to Peter Mandelson), Anne McElvoy (journalist), Sarah Hunter (assistant to Peter Mandelson), Robin Butler (Head of the UK Civil Service), Jack Straw (Home Secretary).

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  • @leosammallahti239
    @leosammallahti239 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Thank you so much for uploading these videos, we have watched all of your political documentaries with my girlfriend and routinely check if you have uploaded more. Documentaries and stuff regarding the Labour Party are especially interesting.

  • @watchingyou245
    @watchingyou245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    In his first incarnation, as Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, he lasted less than five months in 1998.
    He was undone on that occasion by the revelation that he had bought a fashionable home in Notting Hill, with the help of an interest-free £373,000 loan from his millionaire ministerial colleague Geoffrey Robinson.
    When Mr Mandelson filled in a Britannia Building Society mortgage form to buy the house in 1996 he had failed to mention the loan. Nor did it appear on his entry in the Commons Register of Interests.
    After joining the Cabinet he also did not bring the loan to the attention of his Permanent Secretary, even though Mr Robinson's business links were at that time under investigation by Mr Mandelson's own department.
    Tony Blair had vowed that his Government, in contrast to the Conservatives, would be "whiter than white" and Mr Mandelson had to go.
    He admitted being "technically" wrong in not telling his building society about the loan but, even though he resigned, insisted he had done nothing improper.
    That left his path open, once the furore had died down, for a return to the Cabinet only 10 months later in the crucial post of Northern Ireland Secretary.
    He lasted more than a year this time before another scandal erupted.
    It related to a previous ministerial role, when he had responsibility for the Millennium Dome, and centred on newspaper accusations that he helped the Indian billionaire Srichand Hinduja to secure a British passport in return for a £1 million donation to help fund the Dome's Faith Zone.
    When the story broke Mr Mandelson said an inquiry about Mr Hinduja's passport application had been dealt with by his Private Secretary, not him personally.
    That led to the Prime Minister's spokesman Alastair Campbell inadvertently misleading the media and Chris Smith, the then Culture Secretary, doing the same with MPs in the Commons.
    It soon became apparent from Home Office records that Mr Mandelson had personally telephoned Home Office Minister Mike O'Brien.
    Their conversation related to whether a passport application from Mr Hinduja would be reconsidered following a change in government policy.
    After being contacted by Downing Street Mr O'Brien confirmed that he remembered having a two-minute telephone conversation with Mr Mandelson.
    Mr Mandelson was then forced to resign as Northern Ireland Secretary but, once again, maintained he had done nothing wrong.
    He blamed his second departure on a "muddle" that led to himself and other senior figures giving conflicting accounts.
    A subsequent independent report into the so-called "cash for passports" affair by Sir Anthony Hammond QC found in Mr Mandelson's favour, concluding that neither he, nor anyone else, had done anything improper in the affair.
    Despite that there appeared little prospect of a resurrection for his twice foiled Cabinet career and a long walk into the political wilderness loomed.
    Mr Mandelson had been one of the key architects of New Labour, replacing the party's red flag logo with the red rose and pioneering the use of rapid rebuttal units, radiopagers for MPs and the repetitive television soundbite.
    But he was always deeply unpopular with those who clung to traditional Labour values and regarded him as a champagne socialist.
    Whether true or not the story that he once mistook mushy peas for "guacamole dip" at a fish and chip shop in Hartlepool says much about how he was viewed by some of his colleagues.
    When he stood up in Hartlepool in 2001, after keeping his seat in Parliament in the General Election, Mr Mandelson gave a bizarre, emotionally charged speech in which he proclaimed "I am a fighter, not a quitter" and referred to his "inner steel".
    That was greeted by many as the last throes of a politician on the way to oblivion and one election worker at Labour headquarters was heard to say: "He's truly lost it."

    • @Dbdbe1
      @Dbdbe1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then he became a highly influential cabinet minister again in 2008-10. Omitted that bit for some reason

  • @mikew608
    @mikew608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Every time I watched Mandelson on TV, his pompous self absorbed ego dominated over what he was actually saying, the unnerving alliance with Blair's New Labour didn't help.

  • @TheSuperLegoMan100
    @TheSuperLegoMan100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    lmao that zoom in on the falling flowers, slow fade to mandelson's face. truly terrifying

  • @Jerseypete8
    @Jerseypete8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    How was a person allowed to get so much influence as this man..

    • @leecarney4373
      @leecarney4373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      By turning up
      I lose my mind at ppl who see nefarious conspiracy any time someone gets power, political party meetings are so sparsely populated these days you could get real power if you had some ability and could be bothered showing up so I’ve got no time for ppl who cry that ppl who can be bothered actually gain some power

  • @davelowe1977
    @davelowe1977 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I can't believe that all this happened nearly 20 years ago.

    • @dreamdiction
      @dreamdiction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Twenty fucking years which has dumped us so deep in the shit that we now ask "has everything hitler warned us about come true"?

    • @peterembranch5797
      @peterembranch5797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dreamdiction What??!!

    • @dreamdiction
      @dreamdiction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peterembranch5797 Look around you, everything he warned us about has come true. British and French declared war on Germany and made allies with Stalin to stop Germany destroying communism.

    • @pippipster6767
      @pippipster6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ‘New Labour’ sewed the seeds of destruction in the country.

    • @bruh949
      @bruh949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pippipster6767 Fax John Major was such a good PM, but people believe the MSM lies put out to overshadow the great things the Major gov did and people voted for B-Liar. Ironically 1997 is officially the year there British Empire ended…

  • @garypowell8638
    @garypowell8638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Mandelson represents not only what is wrong with the Labour Party, but what is wrong with The World in general and British politics in particular. A classic example of what happens when the end justifies the means.

    • @knoxyish
      @knoxyish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so very right

  • @mscott3918
    @mscott3918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I don't think that there is such a thing as the real Peter Mandelson.

    • @pippipster6767
      @pippipster6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes. And the same can be said of TB.

    • @dirktyler3643
      @dirktyler3643 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Classic sociopath or npd type.

  • @splinterbyrd
    @splinterbyrd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Instead of 'The Real Peter Mandelson,' for a horrified moment I thought it said 'The Rev Peter Madelson'

  • @pippipster6767
    @pippipster6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    His moustache looks like a very unwilling participant 🤣

    • @petermacleod5710
      @petermacleod5710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was a signal at that time, like the ring on the little finger is now

  • @colinhastings6638
    @colinhastings6638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Undeniably ambitious man who backed both horses, Blair and Brown, in those early days and though stopped in his tracks by his own greed and stupidity, is living a very nice Champagne Socialist life like his mentor, Neil K.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It wasn't a case of 'both horses' then. There were many 'horses'. Mandleson backed Blair and Brown because they were from his wing of the party - he wanted either of them to win as opposed to someone from the left.

  • @futtocks23
    @futtocks23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Kinnock like father like son

  • @jmasl7
    @jmasl7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    something of the night about him

  • @slowdivebreeze1
    @slowdivebreeze1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I agree with Leo, I do find the Labour Party docs way more interesting than Tory ones, it must be to do with the characters involved.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Labour Party sadly has always been something of a self made soap opera

  • @mikewellwood1412
    @mikewellwood1412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is fascinating stuff. But of course, it's now way out of date. I'd like to see an up to date version. PM did plenty after this period.

  • @briandelaney9710
    @briandelaney9710 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Malevolent slime who tore the heart out of the Labour Party

  • @19sept76
    @19sept76 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Modernisation of the Labour party Stuff the working class

    • @tomgibson6801
      @tomgibson6801 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      blair ruined labour

    • @19sept76
      @19sept76 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No doubt he did but look at the rubbish we have in now, mostly middle class liberals who not only have never had a proper job , hate the working class

    • @tomgibson6801
      @tomgibson6801 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      tbf on corbyn i think he cares more about the working class than blair did. he's an actual socialist for starters and for years now he's kept the same view. he's the first real labour leader since foot

    • @MarineAqua45
      @MarineAqua45 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      stanley james Lol Mandleson, Blair & Campbell made it all electable. It worked well.

    • @tomgibson6801
      @tomgibson6801 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it was electable before new labour. remember how popular smith was before he died or how unpopular major was 1992-1997. labour won 1997 because people hated major

  • @geraldberliner5260
    @geraldberliner5260 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Peter Meddlesome

  • @ChrisGroggyCreaser
    @ChrisGroggyCreaser 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mandelson with a moustache looks Tooo much like Basil Fawlty..... :(

  • @cycleSCUBA
    @cycleSCUBA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Labour Aristocrat. I could never listen to and watch Mandelson without reminding myself he's in the Labour Party.

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only just

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grandson of Herbert Morrison who was always plotting against Clem Attlee

  • @winifredatwell3982
    @winifredatwell3982 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mandelson me of Zachary Smith in Lost in Space. About as trustworthy.

  • @chrish12345
    @chrish12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hes like something out of the Omen

  • @briandelaney9710
    @briandelaney9710 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The worst of the New Labour cronies. Tore the heart and soul out of the Labour Party

    • @th8257
      @th8257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what, by winning three elections? Is the 'heart and soul' of the Labour Party to lose every election to the Tories just so you can wallow in self righteousness? You lot are an absolute bunch of morons. Your moral vanity and self indulgence is off the Richter Scale. You betray everyone that you claim to care for, just so you can feel good about how "superior" your morality is. If you want to see what ripped the heart and soul of the Labour Party, take a long hard look at Jeremy Corbyn instead. Worst electoral defeat for decades and destroying the party's reputation with the appalling anti-Semites whose support he accepted.

  • @markwalsh2992
    @markwalsh2992 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I actually can’t understand how kinnock lost in 1992... against John sappy Major!! How did that happen??

    • @williamford8027
      @williamford8027 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Sun wot won it

    • @mscott3918
      @mscott3918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      George Job Because, for all his faults and greyness, Major is that rare thing, a decent politician.

    • @dianethibault4265
      @dianethibault4265 ปีที่แล้ว

      His pride came before a fall

    • @grahamo7129
      @grahamo7129 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But he lied about Victorian values whilst carryout an extra marital affair with Edwina Currie; showing his true deceitful nature, ask his wife about his decency!@@mscott3918

    • @knoxyish
      @knoxyish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      labour were actually worse

  • @williamkennedy5492
    @williamkennedy5492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What sort of socalism did he represent, certainly not that which our grandfathers fought for, he represented himself. This is the unacceptable face of our political class,

  • @JohnDoe-ji8dq
    @JohnDoe-ji8dq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3.44 STOP RIGHT THERE !!!!!!! & enjoy the hair.Nono go back & enjoy .

  • @briandelaney9710
    @briandelaney9710 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He has a bit of the character of his grandfather , Morrison who was constantly undermining Clem Attlee

  • @JohnDoe-ji8dq
    @JohnDoe-ji8dq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this about Pet Fondlbum ?.

  • @dommidavros2211
    @dommidavros2211 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is wrong with these documentary makers? They forgot to mention that he was re employed in the cabinet!! Also why would you fire someone for taking out a legal loan??? Really stupid!

    • @DBIVUK
      @DBIVUK  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mandelson rejoined the cabinet in October 1999 - so I'm not sure it's a big condemnation of a documentary completed in April 1999 that it failed to mention it. There is more to politics than mere legality; his resignation in December 1998 was more over the image problem when a senior government minister is enormously indebted to another.

  • @JohnDoe-ji8dq
    @JohnDoe-ji8dq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OH ok look at the plastic flowers in water !!.

  • @duckndive.
    @duckndive. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Compounded, He wanted to be in charge and have things his way and would do anything to ensure it happened.

    • @pippipster6767
      @pippipster6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a game plan, sounds like a good move.

  • @clonmore819
    @clonmore819 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Good socialist. Now a Lord, lives in a £10m home and has a pension £100,000 pa. No wonder Lord Kinnock thinks Peter is "made of good stuff".

    • @aislingmichaelaoneill1028
      @aislingmichaelaoneill1028 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Clonmore Class envy or crass envy?

    • @craigg4219
      @craigg4219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aislingmichaelaoneill1028 envy? It's public money that's made him rich it's not like he built a business from scratch 😂😂😂 weird kid you

    • @pippipster6767
      @pippipster6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Champagne socialism in full effect.

    • @dianethibault4265
      @dianethibault4265 ปีที่แล้ว

      The essence of socialism --- mansions for me, bog standard council estate for thee

  • @iphonemodDOTcom
    @iphonemodDOTcom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I dunno about you but I'm always alarmed by floaters,usually after a curry.

  • @malcolmfew4162
    @malcolmfew4162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This programme began with a stunt snd continued to describe a stunt throughout.

  • @chrisjones3901
    @chrisjones3901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He covers up scandles,a very dark man

  • @PETE4955
    @PETE4955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An always irelevent political politicians.

  • @SuperBartles
    @SuperBartles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    21:11 Joy Johnson starts a sentence and Clin Byrne (?) finishes. er, would be better to have the end of Ms Johnson‘s sentence and the beginning of the second one, surely? Bit of editorial license, to say the least...
    Nice to see Brian Walden, though. Weekend world was a magnificent programme, but I never realised just how leftwing it was, through and through. I don‘t know about David Cox but Aaronovitz, Peter Jay, Mandelson... Walden was brilliant but an ex-Labour MP. People don‘t realise who has been controlling news & current affairs coverage for years

  • @the19thcentury81
    @the19thcentury81 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be unfortunate to be him.

  • @ChrisGroggyCreaser
    @ChrisGroggyCreaser 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mandelson was Very slimy,etc.... :( Statistically there are More Millonairres/Billionairres in the Labour party than the Tory party.... :( Mandelson/Tony Blair/Tony Benn,etc,etc.... :(

  • @splinterbyrd
    @splinterbyrd ปีที่แล้ว

    Handy Mandy. _motto;_ We know where you live!

  • @KimPhilby203
    @KimPhilby203 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More able in his own head than in reality..Labour now 15 years out of power...

  • @juliancoulden1753
    @juliancoulden1753 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a ridiculous little man he really is.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, but he won elections, didn't he? Maybe the left of the labour party should try that some time.

  • @2490debrick
    @2490debrick 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    He sums up left-wing politics - scheming, righteous, perverse, and hypocritical!

    • @kaesmith2893
      @kaesmith2893 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He’s a right winger.

  • @stephenmarimba3193
    @stephenmarimba3193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best

  • @hugolindum7728
    @hugolindum7728 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mandelson is only interested in money, Russian oligarchs, and boys.
    ”God knows when he ever got to bed.”
    Lol.

    • @chrisjones3901
      @chrisjones3901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well he didnt ,it was someone else's bed.

  • @JK-br1mu
    @JK-br1mu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    29:43 lol

  • @jacobesmith12
    @jacobesmith12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Horrific slimeball

  • @richardlaversuch9460
    @richardlaversuch9460 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Peter Mandelson should know that the term "bourgeois" means nothing.

    • @azazelssprachen
      @azazelssprachen 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      On the contrary, he knew damn well that it meant people like him

  • @greenpedal370
    @greenpedal370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He is an out and out narcissist.

  • @Ladynipchick2
    @Ladynipchick2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I certainly can see why some people dislike him. But I'm not one of them. I wish him well.

  • @andrewlouden3419
    @andrewlouden3419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He seemed to have had a lot of “political advisors “

    • @th8257
      @th8257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      is that some kind of slimy homophobic comment? All people in such positions have lots of advisers.

  • @briandelaney9710
    @briandelaney9710 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    John Smith was right about him

  • @margaretmorgan3693
    @margaretmorgan3693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What horrible man Peter Mandelson is. I hope he gets what he deserves

    • @knoxyish
      @knoxyish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and all the new labour traitors

  • @JK-br1mu
    @JK-br1mu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Look what he's become" yah he's not a totalitarian criminal like you, anymore.

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And NO mention of his Jewish ancestry!

    • @TedATL1
      @TedATL1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      JP VOGEL
      On one side.

    • @harmlessdrudge
      @harmlessdrudge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that relevant? I doubt he's religious.

  • @MrDaiseymay
    @MrDaiseymay 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THAT'S AN EASY ANSWER, IT DEPENDS ON WHICH DRESS HE/SHE WEARS.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What the fuck? Mate, it's 2020. That may have been 'funny' in 1950, but that was 70 years ago. Now, it's just pathetic homophobia.