Paul really is the OG when understanding overland vehicles and the unique challenges that a heavily laden vehicle travelling long distances on variable terrain, can pose. His explanation on how parts wear and why certain parts should be replaced is clear and concise. Very grateful that you can share his expertise.
Pls give us a cost summary for this project to the current running state. Before mods but after purchase and parts replacement. Would be very interesting!!!!
I love this series but it's a bit facetious to call this a budget build. They could have bought a new truck for what it would have cost them retail for the work and all the parts they were given free.
Andrew, you have admirers also in Italy. And even though we don't have the spectacular landscapes of Australia your videos are much appreciated, because the passion for 4x4 has no boundaries.
While there is certainly a lot of good information and helpful things to consider in these refresh/refurb videos, I have to say it's EXTREMELY hard to take this stuff to heart when it feels like there is effectively zero thought given to how much all of this would actually cost. Paul clearly must work with people who have unlimited budgets, because when 80% of the vehicle is being replaced or rebuilt, you have to realize that those are the only people who could take a similar approach as you have here. Again, there is great information included in these, but I'm just suggesting that for a broad audience, you should really be bringing *cost-effectiveness* (for the average person, not multi-millionaires) into the conversation as well.
Hello, you could also look at it the other way around: we all buy , maintain and kit out our 4x4´s according to our personal budget..hence the extend of work being done on an older vehicle or not..once again depending on each personal budget and priorities. One should however not be stopped by leaving home and go out into the wild even if your car has not been put up to the spec of the video..but a minimum for your safety is primordial I think, best, M
I don’t think Mr. 4Xoverland abuse his vehicle to warrant this kind of maintenance. I watched his channel and never saw one video that he did extreme 4X4 expeditions. Whatever happened to the “ if it’s not broken don’t fix it”?.
Well… To be honest, I could listen for hours on end, to folks like this… These two guys properly forgot more about four wheel driving then I would ever know about it, in the first place…😂 So listening to them, makes perfect sense … at least to ME … Thank you sir for the efforts and inside knowledge that you share here on this platform… 👍 Greetings from Germany everybody 👋 (owner of a defender 110 HT from 2002) 😊
Paul is a wealth of knowledge. The issue I have is as an owner of a 25 year old 4x4 it worries me the amount of work needed …. Paul has multiplied my ‘to do’ list by 10 😢
G'day Andrew and Paul. This was very informative, and well worth watching. Lessons learned here can also be applied to just about any vehicle at all. Something I've noticed in Sydney is when you go in for an oil change, I actually forgot to say GREASE and Oil change. This i will get into with my mechanic, and make sure the Grease part is done as well. Brilliant info about dust mud and wear. Good luck with the body build, on Colin-der. 🤣
Thanks Andrew - great series and a good orientation for what needs to be done to revive an older Cruiser. Lots of people buy these thinking they "last forever", which they do, but only with aggressive maintenance. Also - I wish you would ship items from the 4XOverland store/shop to the US. None of it is available to us here and there are several things I'd love to have even with high shipping.
G'day Andrew & Paul, Another great & informative video, Can you please tell me how to check that your Viscous fan hub is Ok? should it be reasonably stiff or relatively easy to rotate. Your explition & the correct method of checking the hub would be very helpful & I would be extremely greatfull, thank you. Kind Regards, Steve.
I saw on another comment, that Andrew estimated the 'retail' value of the labour and parts to do this maintenance was 350K Rand, which is about AU$29,000. That's quite a whack of cash!
That was my comment and not Andrew’s. I was advising what work I had done on my vehicle at the same workshop. I consider the money well spent and hope that it doubles the life (and more) of the vehicle that I plan on keeping for a long time. As for the cost it’s all relative. Where I live $29k will not even get you a 10 year old econobox so I chose to keep a vehicle in Africa and use public transport.
Great to see all this build going on, would like to know ( if possible) what the cost of doing a rebuild and kitting out interior would be for similar type vechile with high mileage
Cheers for the insight and sharing real world experience. Toyota's seem to have this uncanny ability to survive mechanically compared to rival manufacturers. My father has had a 74 series since they came out...nownat over 500rhousand kms we had everything pulled apart and inspected. Old donkey still had the machine marks on the gears...lol...well enjoyed this episode.
Hi Andrew - if you could please let me know I would appreciate it greatly. I'm also looking at a Troopy with 450 000km, for R320k is that in the ballpark I should be paying and then restore like yours (until painted and mechanically sound) or would I be better off getting a 2023 model for R850k? No idea what I should be budgeting for the restoration.
With old vehicles, eg Land Rover defenders, the third party replacement parts that are available are not that good sometimes. With a good quality vehicle like 70 series, I might think twice before tearing down a good running original manual transmission with no symptoms. Same for diffs. I agree prop shafts do need properly checking though. Same for seals and wheel bearings. Sourcing quality parts a challenge for defender owners. Andrew... Might be good topic for a more in depth video?
Agreed. Even Genuine Land Rover parts aren’t what they used to be, not to mention the junk that comes in a blue box. I’ve stop doing preventative replacement of parts that haven’t actually failed or are clearly on the verge of failing. It’s almost guaranteed that the replacement parts won’t be as good as what’s already on there.
I really want to know what your views are on the 70 series warbus if it could be turned into an overland vehicle, you’ve always like a camper sort of van style. The warbus is made in Tanzania and Kenya, I would also like your review of its off-road capabilities.
"Toyota's last forever" ... I hear this the most, THE MOST, when looking for a used Toyota 4x4... these people do no maintenance and do not care and they all want top dollar for a machine that needs maintenance because of lack of maintenance. This because of the owners that DO their proper maintenance where the toyota longevity comes from, all the others ride of the back of those who actually care, bothers me so!
@greymatter6834 A guy I watch from Qatar, is replacing a 9 year old 200 frame. But he takes it through some really salty lagoons. First one I've heard of being replaced outside of an accident.
Very informative but it's a fantasy world build, isn't it? I doubt many of us mere mortals have the finances and connections to do something like this. Of course if someone is giving you something you're going to use it, but as a real world build, no. You've still yet to do the add ons like suspension, wheels, tyres, the re-spray, the fitting out, the purchase of kit, tent, pop top or RTT, electrics, water, cooking etc etc etc. No doubt much also "donated". All well and good for your image as the elite of overlanding which is maybe what you want. But you are straying far too far into the realms of unachievable for me and, judging by the comments so far, nearly all of us. It all looks good in theory............ Cross some borders in Africa instead of rich man's jaunts.
Water pump … Never ever omit the 50/50 mixture of 100% glycol. - Because the glycol is the lubricant of your water pump! - What glycol to buy? - The one that performs the best in tests. Never ever run an engine cooling system on water only. - If you do you’re asking for troubles within a few months.
Three minutes in … Please consider better lubricants wherever applicable. Remember … Oil and grease are always cheaper than the parts they protect. Engine/gears - Ravenol provides top of the line oils. Bearings - SKF’s bearing grease LGMT 2/5 is the best you can get. - Don’t trust my opinion, Google for professional test results.
I think a fair amount of gearbox wear/play , comes from drivers using TOO MANY REVS as they accelerate through the gears .. instead of letting the GEARS do their job naturally .. increasing speed "naturally", instead of overpowering with engine torque, unnecessarily. I wouldn't want to drive this current Troopy, Andrew .. definitely not 😉
I think your videos are getting stale, compared to other channels you lack content showing different places and 4by trips rather you keep making the same old build videos of the same troop carriers. Build videos are great to watch when channels build different vehicles up not just the same troop carrier every time. Just my two cents.
Fair comment. One thing I can say. You are missing a lot of videos. You have to tell TH-cam to tell you about EVERY video I post, not just the ones you comment on. And that is by clicking the notifications bell button. if you don't, TH-cam guesses what you like and clearly they are getting it wrong.
I could. And they no doubt would stop working. But that would cost them in overtime. This is a TH-cam presentation and I figure, its still easy to hear the words and they can still maintain schedules without me interfering. They've done enough for me already.
My question is whether the new parts you’re using are anywhere near as good as the original parts you’re replacing. My guess is no. There is so much Chinese junk out there these days, even from formerly reputable manufacturers. Even Genuine parts aren’t as good as what you’d have gotten 20 years ago. It’s a sad state of affairs.
You are not wrong. There are some cheap Chinese and Indian-made parts that I would not fit to my wheelbarrow. The parts we fitted are very good. If we had any doubt, we went for genuine Toyota.
Paul really is the OG when understanding overland vehicles and the unique challenges that a heavily laden vehicle travelling long distances on variable terrain, can pose. His explanation on how parts wear and why certain parts should be replaced is clear and concise. Very grateful that you can share his expertise.
... and he's got this modesty in his personality and tone of voice !
Pls give us a cost summary for this project to the current running state. Before mods but after purchase and parts replacement. Would be very interesting!!!!
I love this series but it's a bit facetious to call this a budget build. They could have bought a new truck for what it would have cost them retail for the work and all the parts they were given free.
Paul Marsh is a gem! His mechanical empathy is second to none. ❤️
Andrew, you have admirers also in Italy. And even though we don't have the spectacular landscapes of Australia your videos are much appreciated, because the passion for 4x4 has no boundaries.
THANK YOU FOR VIDEO GREAT WATCHING
Thank you, Paul Marsh!
- Next time I’m driving trough mud I will remove the wheels and flush all 4 breakes as well as I can.
While there is certainly a lot of good information and helpful things to consider in these refresh/refurb videos, I have to say it's EXTREMELY hard to take this stuff to heart when it feels like there is effectively zero thought given to how much all of this would actually cost. Paul clearly must work with people who have unlimited budgets, because when 80% of the vehicle is being replaced or rebuilt, you have to realize that those are the only people who could take a similar approach as you have here.
Again, there is great information included in these, but I'm just suggesting that for a broad audience, you should really be bringing *cost-effectiveness* (for the average person, not multi-millionaires) into the conversation as well.
Hello, you could also look at it the other way around: we all buy , maintain and kit out our 4x4´s according to our personal budget..hence the extend of work being done on an older vehicle or not..once again depending on each personal budget and priorities. One should however not be stopped by leaving home and go out into the wild even if your car has not been put up to the spec of the video..but a minimum for your safety is primordial I think, best, M
I don’t think Mr. 4Xoverland abuse his vehicle to warrant this kind of maintenance. I watched his channel and never saw one video that he did extreme 4X4 expeditions. Whatever happened to the “ if it’s not broken don’t fix it”?.
Well…
To be honest, I could listen for hours on end, to folks like this…
These two guys properly forgot more about four wheel driving then I would ever know about it, in the first place…😂
So listening to them, makes perfect sense … at least to ME …
Thank you sir for the efforts and inside knowledge that you share here on this platform… 👍
Greetings from Germany everybody 👋 (owner of a defender 110 HT from 2002) 😊
Paul is a wealth of knowledge. The issue I have is as an owner of a 25 year old 4x4 it worries me the amount of work needed …. Paul has multiplied my ‘to do’ list by 10 😢
I saw someone already asked the question but can we have a parts and labour cost breakdown on such a lofty replacement parts list please?
G'day Andrew and Paul. This was very informative, and well worth watching. Lessons learned here can also be applied to just about any vehicle at all. Something I've noticed in Sydney is when you go in for an oil change, I actually forgot to say GREASE and Oil change. This i will get into with my mechanic, and make sure the Grease part is done as well. Brilliant info about dust mud and wear. Good luck with the body build, on Colin-der. 🤣
Am in the Serengeti,my gear box just broke. I wish Paul was in Tanzania😢😢😢😢😢
Thanks Andrew - great series and a good orientation for what needs to be done to revive an older Cruiser. Lots of people buy these thinking they "last forever", which they do, but only with aggressive maintenance. Also - I wish you would ship items from the 4XOverland store/shop to the US. None of it is available to us here and there are several things I'd love to have even with high shipping.
Excellent video.
G'day Andrew & Paul, Another great & informative video, Can you please tell me how to check that your Viscous fan hub is Ok? should it be reasonably stiff or relatively easy to rotate.
Your explition & the correct method of checking the hub would be very helpful & I would be extremely greatfull, thank you. Kind Regards, Steve.
I saw on another comment, that Andrew estimated the 'retail' value of the labour and parts to do this maintenance was 350K Rand, which is about AU$29,000. That's quite a whack of cash!
That was my comment and not Andrew’s. I was advising what work I had done on my vehicle at the same workshop. I consider the money well spent and hope that it doubles the life (and more) of the vehicle that I plan on keeping for a long time. As for the cost it’s all relative. Where I live $29k will not even get you a 10 year old econobox so I chose to keep a vehicle in Africa and use public transport.
I do apologise. For some reason I thought that was ASPW's comment. Was reading whilst travelling & reading on a small screen...
Great to see all this build going on, would like to know ( if possible) what the cost of doing a rebuild and kitting out interior would be for similar type vechile with high mileage
Cheers for the insight and sharing real world experience. Toyota's seem to have this uncanny ability to survive mechanically compared to rival manufacturers. My father has had a 74 series since they came out...nownat over 500rhousand kms we had everything pulled apart and inspected. Old donkey still had the machine marks on the gears...lol...well enjoyed this episode.
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Hi Andrew - if you could please let me know I would appreciate it greatly. I'm also looking at a Troopy with 450 000km, for R320k is that in the ballpark I should be paying and then restore like yours (until painted and mechanically sound) or would I be better off getting a 2023 model for R850k? No idea what I should be budgeting for the restoration.
What has _not_ been changed?
Well. The engine, gearbox and axles to begin with. They have been serviced and some worn parts replaced.
If one had to pay for this job labour, parts and all how much would it cost?
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Good Question - eagerly awaiting a reply from Marsh/Andrew.
youd buy a lower km car that didnt need it
@4xoverland
With old vehicles, eg Land Rover defenders, the third party replacement parts that are available are not that good sometimes. With a good quality vehicle like 70 series, I might think twice before tearing down a good running original manual transmission with no symptoms. Same for diffs. I agree prop shafts do need properly checking though. Same for seals and wheel bearings. Sourcing quality parts a challenge for defender owners. Andrew... Might be good topic for a more in depth video?
Agreed. Even Genuine Land Rover parts aren’t what they used to be, not to mention the junk that comes in a blue box. I’ve stop doing preventative replacement of parts that haven’t actually failed or are clearly on the verge of failing. It’s almost guaranteed that the replacement parts won’t be as good as what’s already on there.
I live in one of the 61 countries! 😁❤️
I really want to know what your views are on the 70 series warbus if it could be turned into an overland vehicle, you’ve always like a camper sort of van style. The warbus is made in Tanzania and Kenya, I would also like your review of its off-road capabilities.
"Toyota's last forever" ... I hear this the most, THE MOST, when looking for a used Toyota 4x4... these people do no maintenance and do not care and they all want top dollar for a machine that needs maintenance because of lack of maintenance. This because of the owners that DO their proper maintenance where the toyota longevity comes from, all the others ride of the back of those who actually care, bothers me so!
Nothing lasts forever.
My 80 has the cancer, rust is becoming creeping death.
@greymatter6834 A guy I watch from Qatar, is replacing a 9 year old 200 frame. But he takes it through some really salty lagoons. First one I've heard of being replaced outside of an accident.
Great sales doco for a very reputable repair company.
Very informative but it's a fantasy world build, isn't it? I doubt many of us mere mortals have the finances and connections to do something like this. Of course if someone is giving you something you're going to use it, but as a real world build, no. You've still yet to do the add ons like suspension, wheels, tyres, the re-spray, the fitting out, the purchase of kit, tent, pop top or RTT, electrics, water, cooking etc etc etc. No doubt much also "donated". All well and good for your image as the elite of overlanding which is maybe what you want. But you are straying far too far into the realms of unachievable for me and, judging by the comments so far, nearly all of us.
It all looks good in theory............
Cross some borders in Africa instead of rich man's jaunts.
Water pump …
Never ever omit the 50/50 mixture of 100% glycol.
- Because the glycol is the lubricant of your water pump!
- What glycol to buy?
- The one that performs the best in tests.
Never ever run an engine cooling system on water only.
- If you do you’re asking for troubles within a few months.
Paul on the CV’s … He is 100% correct.
Paul on the interior, I ❤️ his understanding.
Thank you @Andrew for sharing videos like this. You have no idea what it means to me, a Gen4 Jimny owner.
Three minutes in … Please consider better lubricants wherever applicable.
Remember …
Oil and grease are always cheaper than the parts they protect.
Engine/gears - Ravenol provides top of the line oils.
Bearings - SKF’s bearing grease LGMT 2/5 is the best you can get.
- Don’t trust my opinion, Google for professional test results.
I think a fair amount of gearbox wear/play , comes from drivers using TOO MANY REVS as they accelerate through the gears .. instead of letting the GEARS do their job naturally .. increasing speed "naturally", instead of
overpowering with engine torque, unnecessarily.
I wouldn't want to drive this current Troopy, Andrew .. definitely not 😉
How can upgrade my Ford ranger 2900cc non turbo yr2006.Mike in kenya
Another Toyota getting 'maintenance'.
Expected after doing half a million ks.
@marka9638 Indeed.... But when another manufacturer hits a similar milestone and requires work, they are decried as 'unreliable'.
I think your videos are getting stale, compared to other channels you lack content showing different places and 4by trips rather you keep making the same old build videos of the same troop carriers. Build videos are great to watch when channels build different vehicles up not just the same troop carrier every time. Just my two cents.
Fair comment. One thing I can say. You are missing a lot of videos. You have to tell TH-cam to tell you about EVERY video I post, not just the ones you comment on. And that is by clicking the notifications bell button. if you don't, TH-cam guesses what you like and clearly they are getting it wrong.
The background noise in that workshop is very annoying and spoiling the video!
Its a very busy workshop.
I could. And they no doubt would stop working. But that would cost them in overtime. This is a TH-cam presentation and I figure, its still easy to hear the words and they can still maintain schedules without me interfering. They've done enough for me already.
Just buy a new one!,
This build will cost about R650 000. A new one costs three times that.
@@overland-workshop now that makes sense. Thank you
@@overland-workshop R1.95 million ZAR new? That doesn’t seem right…
My question is whether the new parts you’re using are anywhere near as good as the original parts you’re replacing. My guess is no. There is so much Chinese junk out there these days, even from formerly reputable manufacturers. Even Genuine parts aren’t as good as what you’d have gotten 20 years ago. It’s a sad state of affairs.
You are not wrong. There are some cheap Chinese and Indian-made parts that I would not fit to my wheelbarrow. The parts we fitted are very good. If we had any doubt, we went for genuine Toyota.
Your voice I like too much your voice when you talk
Your TH-cam setup is awful, I struggle to find latest videos. This is different to all my other subscriptions
I put videos into playlists. Each build has one. Each trip has one. I'm not sure how else to make them easier to find. Suggestions?
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