Pavement: Whatever happened to the band behind "Range Life"
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- Pavement: Whatever happened to the band behind 'Range Life?'
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Despite the fact that they would be hailed as one of the most influential indie bands in American history,The california group pavement never appeared to take themselves too seriously, Branded by some as slackers, Founding member Scott Kannberg would tell the LA Times in 1992 “Pavement is not a real band, it’s more for fun,” Half a decade into their career Pavement would start seeing comparisons to alternative rock giants Nirvana with the LA Times writing in 1994 “While Nirvana introduced punk to the mainstream by fusing the abrasive genre with pop, Pavement meshes catchy melodies with experimental noise for the average kid who didn’t attend art school. The group’s sweet ‘n’ sour sound hasn’t earned them millions yet, but it has made Pavement college rock’s newest superstars.”
Pavement was one of the first bands to revel in lo-fi production, with many indie-rock groups following in their footsteps Today let’s explore the history of the band Pavmeent.
Pavement’s history started with founding members Scott Kannberg and Stephen Malkmus who grew up in middle class families in the farming town of Stockton, California. In an interview with Spin Magazine the pair indicated that they knew each other since the age of 10,but the LA times claimed they first met in high school in 1985. While Pavement wouldn’t be formed until 1989 Kannberg and Malkmus teenage years helped them each foster their influences that would seep into pavement’s music. Kannberg as a teenager was drawn to punk, electronic and new-wave music, while Malkmus cited Jimi Hendrix and punk as his own set of influences.
In high school Malkmus never fit in with any particular crowd but played on the soccer and tennis teams without considering himself a jock. He would admit to spin “i was just nowhere, i was lost basically. I wish about computers, i should have been a computer nerd i’d be happier now. But i thought computers were lame because my dad gave me some jock quotient.”
The pair started playing music together in the early to mid 80’s. During high school the pair started playing in bands and performing at open mic nights. One of their first bands was called bag o bones which blended together the styles or REM, new order and Echo and the bunnymen.
After high school Malkmus went to the University of Virginia earning a degree in history. While attending University Malkmus took up a job as a radio DJ at the college radio station where he met another DJ named Bob Nastanovich n 1986. The pair played different styles of music on the radio with Malkmus favouring more progressive style of rock while Nastanovich was into more obscure artists. The pair would start a failed band called ectoslavia but it didn’t really result in much, but years later Nastanovich would join pavement as multi-instrumentalist.
Kannberg for his part meanwhile had dreams of becoming an urban planner, but music soon took over and he returned home. In between stints at university Malkmus returned to Stockton where he reconnected with kannberg.. According to the Spin Magazine in 1989 one night the pair were hanging out getting drunk and writing a handful of songs utilizing guitar feedback and synthesized noise. The result would be an EP release called Slay Tracks 1933-1969 which they’d put out on their own label called Treble Kicker. The pair would enlist an older drummer named Gary Young who also renowned in Stockton’s punk rock scene. It would be Young’s studio where the trio recorded their first EP for $800 Despite the fact there were only a few copies of the single being in circulation it eventually found it’s way around indie circles who soon took notice of the band, most notably british DJ john peel. Malkmus and Kannberg used the pseudonyms SM and Spiral Stairs on the record creating an aura of mystery around their band.
Malkmus and Kannberg’s middle class upbringing seeped into their music. Malkmus would tell Mojo “Whatever soul you have being a suburban kid like us, what can you do that’s right that way?” “Because we’re not Black Sabbath, we’re not working-class heroes and we can’t get away with that. Luckily we’re not hanging out at Met Bar, either, we’re not New York City hipsters or anything, so that’s our earthiness.” - เพลง
Here's the smashing pumpkins pavement feud video i reference th-cam.com/video/zCtLpM3TH7M/w-d-xo.html
Can you do a video in Meg Myers!
You should do a story of Lush, they had an interesting background.
I once met Stephen in a music store and talked to him for quite a while. He was buying a Stone Temple Pilots shirt and album.
did he look foxy to you?
oh my god i saw your comment from nine years ago on a pavement song and am shocked to see you here.
That’s such a shame he likes stone temple pilots
I do not believe you..lol
LOL
Pavement were the showering man’s Grateful Dead!
I like listening to them in the bath
Disagree. I love Pavement but hate showering. 😂
@@smallmanbigmouth2699 So do most people I see on the pavement...
Hahahaha! Hilarious!
Ha!
Anyone that hurts Billy Corgan's feelings is a friend of mine. Pavement > Pumpkins
Billy Corgan seems to have a problem with everyone.
@@bangslamwham88 He bought a pro wrestling promotion and has had several issues with people in that industry as well.
Love it! 😄
Corgan once had a problem with his own shadow like Peter Pan but truly has a problem with the man in the mirror.
Trash
The first time I heard Pavement I was sitting in a car in the parking lot of my junior college smoking a joint with my buddy. It was 1995 and Wowee Zowee had just came out. It completely changed my musical taste in a split second. They completely fit my personality and I felt like they were representing me. I’ve seen them every time they played Dallas since 1995. And met Stephen Malkmus a couple of times. If you like Pavement you should definitely look into the Silver Jews. Good stuff!
95, sitting in a car smoking a spliff, listening to pavement also. U.K. here.
2:17 That's not Bob Nastanovich, that's Steve West. Nastanovich is the one smiling in the back.
I've seen Pavement live 2 times (1997, 2010) and Malkmus solo 5 times (2005, 2008, 2011, 2015, 2018). Hoping to see the Pavement reunion 2022. I've seen Mark Ibold in NYC twice in my life. The first time at a Battles show at Central Park Summerstage. I started talking to him nonchalantly and then asked him about where the other guys were, specially Stephen. He kinda bummed said that Stephen was doing well on his own and did not need them. That was 2008. Two summers later I would see the reformed Pavement play their reunion shows on that exact same place.
BTW, god bless Malkmus and the boys. They are the soundtrack to my life. From my youth when I discovered them at 14 until the present day where I play Malkmus solo albums for my daughter in the car. I still remember my mother when I was a teen once showing me an article on the New York Times and saying hey it's about that band you like. It called Malkmus the "slacker prince of indie rock". Yup. Then and now it is true.
And Stockton isn't a farm town.
I saw Pavement once in 96 at the Summersault festival Held at the Gold Coast in Queensland AU. One of the top tier group of killer lineups ive ever had the privilege to attend. They joined Rancid, The Amps(Kim Deal's other group that wasn't Pixies or the Breeders), Sonic Youth, Foo Fighters(It was their first tour), Beck, and The Beastie Boys touring Ill Communication with Hurricane and Money Mark in tow. I attended Primaily for Pavement, Back and the Beasties, All of womb killed it, tho, Pavement, having so many members, looked crowded and there was clearly tension amongst the ranks.
I understand why Stephan made that sentiment regarding not needing them back then. He DID do well on his own. And personally, I'm a much bigger fan of his solo and Jicks material than I am Pavement. Not taking away from the huge impact and significantce they had on the LoFi scene, and Crooked Rain is one of the most important albums of its time and of my youth.But it ran its course, and any song writer would find it difficult not to stagnate in a band with so many members and egos working with such significant expectations to remain true to "being pavement". Pavement was their day job and their career. Stephen is a genius wrong writing artist who was desperate to evolve his craft.
I saw Stephen twice. On his first solo tour and saw Squarepusher directly after his set, and when he announced his final track he encouraged the audience to start making their way to the stage he was performing on rather than listening to his set closer because it was at the opposite end of the site and he didn’t want anyone to miss any of it. Which made my day. I was there for Him and Squarepusher and the rest of the line up sucked, so after waiting all day ignoring a whole heap of crap bands, hearing my number two act acknowledge and support my number one act was a sweet cherry on top to an otherwise boring and dull festival.
Second time was on the Pig Lib tour(My personal favourite release. Water and. Seat and (Do Not Feed)The Oyster are two of my all-time favourite songs.) Case in point, Those tracks just wouldn't have worked with Pavement. And especially his first release. JoJo'S Jacket(another all time favourite), The Hook, Jenny and the ess Dog, in fact the entire release, retained they cynicism and satire of Pavement, yet was just as much a love letter to the pop music zeitgeist.
Leaving Pavement freed him from the associated snobbery and elitism that comes with being in a cool af Indi band who wore the zero fucks given attitude on their sleeves. And of course they did. They were kids when they joined. But he started to wear himself on his sleeve when he grew up a bit, and you can tell by his material, and by his live performances, hes happier and more content. And his love and passion for his art oozes from every pour for every second of. his time on stage. That energy was absent when I sw Pavement. Unfortunately I missed the reformation tour. I was a FT dad by the time they did. I wish I caught them tho. He was being sincere when he said he didn't need them. But he loves them like brothers and he wouldn't have gotten to the stage where he was doing well enough on his own not to need them without them. And he's always known that and has never taken that for granted. And hearing that they weren't needed would've stung for the boys when he said it. But they knew it themselves too. Just hearing it out loud makes it a confirmed reality. Just like any break up or divorce, you all know its over deep down, but reality hitting home always sucks. I get the feeling they might've performed with a similar enthusiasm to when they were starting out. In hindsight, It kinda surprises me they lasted another 3 years after I saw them. Goes to show they were all giving it their all to make it work....
But, hey, I still haven't lost all hope for the possibility of some new official Pavement material one day. If At the Drive In can do it, anybody can.....
I saw Pavement in Central Park as well. Great show…..except for the thunder storm in the middle of the show.
"They are the soundtrack to my life".. truer words never spoken.
Exactly . Came to say that too. Plus he didn’t mention Silver Jews at all. What?
They also made an appearance on Space Ghost Coast to Coast, in an episode titled, "Pavement" where Space Ghost keeps calling them "The Beetles" instead of Pavement.
Definitely one of the most creative alternative bands from the 90s.
Gold Soundz is such a fantastic song. Fantastic. Who's next? Guided By Voices?
Yo la tengo?
New GBV record is gonna be awesome! The track “My (Limited) Engagement” is stellar! 🎊🎉🥳
The new Sleater Kinney sux
Fr man I could cry to Gold Soundz. All of their music is just beautiful
I loved GBV back in the day. Saw them about eight times. Getting to old the chase rock bands around. (cancer sucks!)
Watching from Stockton right now, Pavement is a perfect soundtrack for walking around in the neighborhoods north of downtown
Brighten the Corners is a masterwork of the 90s. So psyched to see them in Boston in 2022.
Missed it
Their first release is one of the best in alternative rock.
I just love this no-nonsense, straight-to-the-point channel. Keep it up!
I remember when Crooked Rain came out. Very beautiful, and funny. Everyone was so serious, they were refreshing. They were so different from other bands of that time.
Serious is a good thing. I don’t have a problem with bands that are just for fun per se, but Pavement just has no rhyme or reason behind anything they do.
@@curly_wyn cool deal. Now go be serious somewhere else!
Very beautiful maaaaaaaaaaan. Go celebrate LGBTQ+ somewhere else maaaaaan
@@scottdavis0801 Well hey, what about The B-52s? They’re fun as hell, but I think they actually do it well. Pavement even so is supposed to be just for fun just doesn’t really sound like fun music.
@@curly_wyn I love the B52s!
Great video, thank you for covering one of rock and roll's true outliers. Between not using a bass and Gray Young's erratic drumming, Slanted & Enchanted is one of the most compelling debuts ever.
kills me that so few people have ever even heard anything but fucking cut your hair when there is so much great material in the discography.
Exactly slanted and enchanted is my favourite album
Thanks for this vid..always loved me some Pavement!!
The Boardwalk in Manchester UK back in the day...we were in the crowd and some little crazy eyed dude comes up to us and asks "Will the crowd let me to the front?" "Dunno mate maybe if you push" I replied, we watched him fight his way to the front jump on stage as the band came on and he started playing...he was mental love Pavement.
I was that guy!!? In another city.
You highlighted the drummer Steve West, not Bob Nastanovich.
Pretty interesting! How about some Archers of Loaf?
Amazing band. Vee Vee is one of my all time favorites.
@@miameramusic literally, one of the best albums ever...step into the liiiiiight
Yeah Meat Loaf is pretty awesome..
@@standinsilence Does your mom help you with the jokes?
Love Archers of Loaf
Reminds me when they had an open to the public wedding reception in Nashville for Bob's wedding. It was so surreal hearing Malkmus singing love train
I was dressed for success but success it never comes
Ah u slanted
And im the only who laughs at your jokes?
@@jonnytacoma at your jokes when they are so bad
@@barrypotter5751 and your jokes are always bad. But they're not as bad as this.
all pavement albums are good, but their pre-crooked rain stuff (slanted & enchanted / westing (by musket & sextant) / watery domestic/ all the early b-sides, etc) is the music i will always be addicted to... with MOST bands, i think the early stuff is the most inspired & special...
Listen to The Fall
@@marknewbold2583 i'm a fan... so are pavement...
I saw Pavement live on their final pre-breakup tour, Malkmus & Jicks on their first tour, and Silver Jews on their final tour. Just kinda lucked out in those regards, all at the same venue (40 watt), one of the perks of growing up in a famous college rock town like Athens, which I never knew how much I'd miss til I moved out of state. That said, I never heard Pavement on the radio (other than the local college radio station once or twice) and I don't remember them from MTV either. Thankfully somebody put a Matador CD sampler in the free bin at Wuxtry records which turned me onto a handful of bands I'd go onto dig too, from JSBX to Chavez. I was a pretty mainstream 90s alt rock normie, but even though my friends and I were underage (which nobody cared much about pre-Columbine) we started going to a lot of shows around late 95 which opened our eyes and ears to more genres. I still think of college guitar rock when I hear the term "indie rock," something like the Sebadoh song... as opposed to the more melodic emo trash that took over the term by the early to mid aughts. Pavement is probably one of my top ten favorite bands of all time, but most of my friends more tolerated than loved em, a couple dug it almost as much as me, but most definitely didn't.
fav band ever!!! seeing them twice next year !!
Loved this band from the first notes of Crooked Rain. Just saw them last week in Brooklyn and it was amazing to see them live for the first time since 1995.
Crooked Rain is so good. I grew up with my dad playing Wowee Zowee and Crooked Rain nonstop growing up and they’re both just so good
Pavement are alive and sounding as fabulous as ever. I saw them a week ago in Fortitude Valley in Brisbane, Queensland.
Love Pavement. I liked and subscribed, appreciate your work!
Thanks
One of my favorite bands of the ‘90’s! The B Sides Compilation “Westing (By Musket And Sextant)” has some killer tunes on it as well. Always loved Debris Slide & Box Elder…
Never knew it was a b sides comp here in U.K. it was released as their first lp!thx for the information dude!
DEBRIS SLIDE
@@jacksonforrester3496 wheeze, hack, cough!
It was a compilation of their early singles, both A sides and B sides (plus a couple of other songs) and was released in the UK the year after Slanted and Enchanted.
I think Westing's got better tunes than Crooked Rain personaly.
Imagine if Pavement's only release was "Slay Tracks (1933-1969)", they would certainly be labelled under a different genre...
I honestly think in a few years Pavement is going to be for the culture something similar to The Velvet Underground. I'm serious.
The Velvet Underground remained quite unknown and overshadowed by the famous bands of the 60's (The Beatles, The Stones, etc), but as time went on, TVU gained a cult status and then managed to greatly influence the people who listened to them. Many ended up forming their own bands after hearing The Velvet Underground.
Pavement is a similar case. It's not that they were totally unknown, but they didn't come close to reaching the popularity of Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, Alice In Chains, etc. I mean, they didn't even reach the popularity of Sonic Youth.
I've always believed that when a band is good, special, authentic and has good songs, it's just a matter of time passing for society to start recognizing them. Pavement will be given the recognition it deserves as time goes by.
Doing great work, man.
thanks
This is rich ground to go ear tramping. They always sound fresh in a nostalgic way for a time that never existed. And….and they pissed off Billy! Smiles come in all kinds of ways. Terror was a hell of a great last record. Stephen’s Jicks takes you where you didn’t know you wanted to go. Pig Lib is EPIC!
I still have my '92 pressing of Slanted and Enchanted, one of my all time favourite albums for musical and nostalgic reasons. A classic.
Matador put out so much good music.
Pavement saw this video and was like "fuck it; let's do a reunion tour"
Wowee Zowee its definitely their best work. just listen to Half a Canyon open riff.. its just "bull" killer
Wowee Zowee is kind of a so so album, but “Grounded” might be my favorite Pavement song and according to my Apple playlist it’s among top five songs I’ve listened to in my life!
easily the most pavement-y release, maybe you'd preferr the smashing pumpkins or weezer lol
wowee zowee a so so album? funniest thing I've heard all day
Great video. I’m surprised you didn’t mention the influence of The Fall in their sound (particularly on Slanted). The debacle with Mark E Smith from The Fall (unfairly) dismissing Pavement as rip off merchants might me worth a video of its own, I’d say.
Yeah, he said “they don’t have an original thought in their heads!”
Pavement are nothing like The Fall, crazy thing for Mark E Smith to say.
Spit On A Stranger is my favorite track by these guys
Me too.
Matador gave them a $1500 advance for Slanted?? That was maybe 2 days of studio time in the 90s, ha. Also, the stock footage of the two dudes pushing each other when discussing the internal tensions in the band cracked me up. I'm glad people seem to be discovering this band now. They meant a lot to me in the 90s.
great vid man!
Worth noting the band was originally planning on only playing the Primavera 2020 show, with no other dates. At some point during the pandemic they decided to do a full on Euro tour.
Going to see them next year!
Gary Young left the group ... he felt like he was 41 years old, he needs to make money, he didn't get the band's popularity...
That coming from somebody that recorded Plantman!
Never heard of them, thanks for the info!
Saw them in 90's at Ritz in Boston and lollapalooza tour at Randle Island in NY. Awesome shows. Then Steve's Jicx band in Manhattan once. Great one too. He stopped and talked to the audience quite a bit. The female bass player kicked ass. Hopefully will see Pavement again soon 🙏
Check out Gary Young , Hospital album.
Pavement is a killer band with a style of their own , along with Sonic Youth they pushed the way music at the time was being displayed.
Sonic Youth is miles above Pavement and their garbage music.
First time I came across Pavement was their 1997 appearance on Late Night with Conan O' Brien. I instantly became a fan
I hear like a four second tidbit of "Cut Your Hair" every time I watch Pardon the Interruption on ESPN.....back in the day it they played more of it....
YES, EVERY TIME. Ugh that's been killing me for years but I don't know of other PTI viewing Pavement fans to talk about it with, lol. Thank you, I feel validated.
Saw this video on my feed after ordering tickets to see them In 2022. 🎸😏✌️
One of my all time favorite bands.
Please do a video on the Silver Jews
I saw them this week in my home town and they did not disappoint
Fun fact: Steve West almost ran over me and my friend somewhere around 1983 on our skateboards when I was about 10. It wasn't his fault; we were 2 punk little kids coming out from behind a parked car not looking where we were going and he couldn't see us as he drove up the hill in front of his house. I grew up just around the corner from him- we used to sit outside of his house on the curb at the corner, smoke Marlboros and listen to his first(?) band Stalingrad practice, then later another band, Contoocook Line. I didn't even know he was in Pavement until he had been in the band a few years. Funny, Steve and another drummer I knew well and my best friend who was a drummer and I all grew up within about 3 blocks of each other, which is probably the main reason I started playing drums at age 13. Small world lol.
Man I still have the Cantoocook Line album... Still have images in my head from a show they played here
And remember one in Richmond that was crazy fun
Great vid - maybe do one on _Spoon_
Love Slanted and Enchanted & Crooked Rain Crooked Rain, great indie records. Pavement is awesome
One of my all time favourite bands, Pavement always rocks❤
On tour now, still sound great.
I really dig the name "EctoSlavia" that's neat!!
Still, props for comparing Wowee Zowee with Pinkerton, both initially derided albums that flopped.
Surely someone has told you but when you mention Bob Nastonovich, the frame is highlighting Steve West instead.
Brighten the corners is a masterpiece in my opinion
Touring the US soon. One of the best bands ever.
Another great vid. Off topic but how about a video on John Frusciante's '90s era solo work? I always thought they sort of fit the whole slacker scene. (Maybe because he never seemed to have his B string in tune?)
“Slacker” is just a pose, apathy was popular in the 90s. They worked as hard as anyone.
The album is called Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain, not just Crooked Rain.
I love how Slanted & Enchanted, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain and Wowee Zowee all technically rhyme. They broke this trend with Brighten the Corners.
@@miameramusic
Does the same words 2 times really count as a rhyme?
@@standinsilence For Malkmus and his gang I'm pretty sure it does.
You forgot Brighten the Corners. You went from wowie zowie to terror twilight
Next time you see Stephen Malkmus, run up and say "ARE YOU TONY HAWK?!!!!!"
NO NO NO. When you first mentioned Bob Nastonivich, in the band pic you highlighted the drummer Steve West (who didnt join til 2nd album) PLUS you completely skip over Malkmus and Nastonivich’s FIRST group with David Berman The Silver Jews. Hugely important and influential. Cmon man.
Malkmus and Nastanovich's first group with David Berman was called Ectoslavia. The Silver Jews only started 3 years later and it was by and large David Berman's project.
I saw them at their final gig in London, late 90’s.
They toured a while ago, and they are touring again soon!
Going to see them again this year. Seen them 5 times very hit or miss can be terrible or absolutely amazing never mediocre.
Mid 90s, skating all night, not workin, partying almost daily, sex drugs and music.... man to think that was 30 years ago... if i could choose an era to relive id go to 1994.
"People had heard about Pavement even before they heard their music" - true!
I love Pavement, I just listened to a whole podcast on them. I still listen to them almost everyday.
Box Elder is one of my favorite songs of all time.
The first lp was genius of musket and sextant!just so ahead of the time!a mind blowing record!
Completely agree
Haunted call, said to me, its not as good as the first EP
Pavement was heavily influenced by New Zealand Flying Nun label bands, especially the 3D's.
Why no mention of the Watery Domestic LP? It was the perfect follow up to Slanted and the last time the band sounded weird and stoney (in a cool way). I think it's?cause Gary left. He was their Ringo / Charlie Watts.
Omg. This is the first time ever when reading this I’ve ever asked myself “what did ever happen to them “ 😂
Good video on a great band, but thats second drummer Steve West, not Bob Nastovelich who you highlighted ..
They got steamrolled!😛👍
1:18 That guy doesn't know what he's doing
How about doing a story on the plasmatics and Wendy O Williams
Sounds like Pavement didn't have any concrete plans.
Wowee Zowee is good, to be sure, but so is Brighton the Corners, and Terror Twilight!!
slanted and enchanted is timeless. also, ectoslavia is a cool band name imo
Favorite band of all time.
@2:11 you focus in on Steve West. Nastanovich is in the back left.
My fave band. For any doubters, please check them out.
You can't make new fans sending them in blindly.
Start at Crooked Rain and work backwards, before going forward with Wowee Zowee
@@mAdcApMalkmus I probably should’ve started w CC but I bought Corners on cassette and was obsessed ever since.
@@berryseinfeld6772 same here. BtC was what hooked me to Pavement. I knew of them but Stereo vid on 120 got me.
Part of the greatness of Pavement is not just the amount of material they put out in 10 years, but that nobody really knows the sum total of all of it. There are 2 albums not even mentioned in this video, for starters.
The clip of dudes playing soccer is in highland park, Chattanooga TN. WTF. I used to play there all the time before moving to Philly.
I really love your channel and ine my favorites but I've been asking for you to please do one on the band Nada Surf a band called Failure and also a band called FAR a 90s rock band from California really like you to do one of them I think it would be really interesting
I have some good news....failure is coming. nada surf is also on my list. I really appreciate the kind words. I do my best to go through the requests. Failure is coming later this year probably October.
The stock footage is hilarious
Please do Whatever happened to the Refreshments!!
I listened a lot to Pavement while attending Uni. Great band. Understand why they're not for everyone though. Just like Television, Felt or XTC.
I always thought Malkmus looks like Tom Verlaine.
@@dongately2817 I think I've heard Steven mention Television as an influence before
perfect band
All the former members of Pavement are at home tonight watching Smashing Pumpkins videos on TH-cam.
Good video but no mention of PSOI?
From now on I can see the sun, makes me anxious, makes me run