I had a SM 30 years ago. He was the 500th in the US according to the munsterlander society. What an awesome dog. My wife and he were buddies, he chewed a few of her shoes….The dog was phenomenal in the field or in the water. Laid back at home, until I got my vest and his bell, then he would sit and whine by the door until we went hunting. Had him for 13 years. Still miss him.
We have a 7 month old female SM and she's the best pup ever! Smart, energetic, a fantastic cuddle buddy and great with the grandkids! I actually hadn't heard of them until around the time she was born.
Wirehaired Pointing Griffon here. Great temperament, minimal shedding, excellent pointer and retriever, loves water. Also knows how to chill when not hunting.
This! As long as you’re getting one from a reputable breeder, the training should be a cakewalk. I feel like my pup came preloaded with everything he needed internally to know how to hunt birds. Within a half hour of his first time he was already holding a 30+ second point
I am german. I grew up in the region "Münsterland". We had a "Kleiner Münsterländer", also called "Heidewachtel" bei insiders. She was an extremly smart, beautyful sweet, but also watchful dog. She chased after mice, rats, squirrels, birds and so on and caught them, if we did not stop her fast. She could track for miles. Also she could run next to a horse or bike at full speed for miles on end, have a short break and do it all over again. They are almost as agil as a Malinois, but easier to handle and usually not aggressive. She was a wonderful family companion. They are absolutly not the right dog for lazy people! 😉😁
i am a VJHV judge in the german dog system and have judged quite a few KLMs. They are a wonderful dog and I whole heartily endorse the breed. Although they aren't my dog of choice, they really are a great dog. This is a very good explanation of the German testing system and the benefits of following a tight breeding standard.
What is your dog of choice. I live in Northern California in the flyway and duck hunt. Also hunt quail chucker and grouse in Nevada in Montana. I was thinking of a German wire her pointer or a pointing Griffon until I saw this video. I just know for sure I don’t want a Labrador lol
Love mine! Got my first pup in 2013 and had her club approved for breeding shortly thereafter. We’ve had three litters since and have kept one pup from our second litter. Sadly we lost our first SM last spring but we still have her daughter. Love this breed.
My brother has one. She’s tracked deer, retrieved squirrels, ducks, etc. She’s also fun to have around the hunting camp and loves to play with the kids.
Living in the middle of the „Münsterland“ I am tickled so see this. Respect for not misspelling it and a pretty good pronounciation. Greetings out of the Münsterland 👋🏻
Started watching your shotgunning videos now great to see the small munsterlander getting the love they deserve. Grew up around them they are great dogs and yes they love to hunt, and no they don't care for what. Recall our first taking off after what turned out to be a black bear as a pup. I personally don't own one right now but have family with them and they do have a special place in my heart.
Pudelpointers are another great versatile dog. Mine has the off switch in the home but a hunting machine in the field. Low shedding is also a plus with our dog. Overall a great dog.
We have an 11 month old Pudelpointer and she's fantastic. Easy to train, she started hunting in September and hasn't slowed down, waterfowl and upland too.
Shortish fur coat German Wiredhair Pointer here! Absolutely love her, surprisingly pretty calm in the house as long as the owners (me) are calm and also have a ON switch the minute you get in the woods or field. I do enjoy the KLM coat for sure. Absolutely love the roan fur coats.
Just got a field bred english cocker spaniel, it's my first upland dog and he's easy to train and great in the house. We've had a couple successful hunts this year for pheasants.
We have a SM for our first bird dog and she has been great. Loves to hunt and is great in the house. Size is perfect and makes her easy to handle for me and my wife. So glad we discovered this breed when we were searching for a bird dog. Now the wife wants a second one haha.
Tend to agree. I’ve had at least 1 Brittany my entire life. Along with other upland and retriever breeds. Some of my Brits have been burr collectors. Others more like labs - their fur varies widely among dedicated hunting stock and what part of the country they’re from.
I never saw Münsterländers in the field in the upper Midwest until about 10 years ago. Now they are becoming almost common. Probably because of the characteristics you state. I lost my top upland dog to old age last year - a 55 pound, long legged male Brittany and was looking for a replacement pup. A Munsterlander was one of 2 very different choices. The other being a German Wirehair Pointer. I chose the GWP. If you like the mild home disposition of a Munsterlander do NOT get a GWP lol. My 8-month-old female GWP is the naughtiest most energetic dog I have ever had. The only place she is a pleasure is in the field. She picks up EVERYTHING in the house under 50 lbs and chews most of it. She’ll be running around on top of my kitchen counters, even on top of my refrigerator if I take my eyes off her. Desks, tables - merely pedestals to show off her “magnificence”. She LOVES all new people - way too much. Her wiggle butt becomes a blur. She would and does jump into any stranger’s car or truck to investigate and hopefully “go for a ride” when anyone who doesn’t know her opens their door within 25 yards of her. Interestingly unlike all my other dogs through the years (Brittanys, Labs, Chesapeake Bay Retrievers, Germain Shorthairs, Springers, Airedales) she does not chase/bite/kill raccoons, cats, skunks, deer, squirrels, porcupines…. She’s very interested but keeps her distance. She is ungodly bird oriented - which is a very good thing especially considering all her other naughty traits. Is this a GWP behavioral thing - I very much doubt it. My breeder has a quite intensive, unique regimen for his litters with house cats and lots of live birds introduced to them once their eyes are open along with many other activities and experiences.
Went Chukar hunting with my Gordon Setter and saw a Small Munsterlander for the first time. Had a great conversation with the hunter and we talked about both dogs.
Love the video Steve but do have to comment on the comparison photo with the springers. Had you used photos of Field Bred Springers you would have seen more of a similarity with a bit longer tails, smaller ears and shorter hair. Not to mention markings very similar to the KlM. None the less they are both beautiful hunting dogs! Keep the great videos coming!!
Good point. When I went to get a picture of Springers I had to debate what to use since there is a big difference. I had honestly never seen one of the Field Bred Springers, so I used the image that looked similar to most of the Springers I have seen. I would love to learn more about the Field Bred.
Great info on the KlM. I have a Epagneul Breton (French Brittany). Their club standards are the same as yours. Can you run your KIM's in UKC pointing tests ? CEB can run hunt tests and conformation. The main CEB are held once a year here in the US. Judges from France come and judge hunt and the conformation tests. One draw back from your breed is the burr thing !! Keep up the good work on your breeding. Strict practices are the only way we can keep our dogs pure. Thanks Steve-Merry Xmas to you and the Family
Steve, have hunted with someone's Large Muensterlander. BEAUTIFUL dog. Love to see you branching out with your videos. Been here a few years, will be here a few more. But PLEASE, bring us a review on the Weatherby Orion -SXS- ! I've given up on the request for the CZ Redhead -ALL TERRAIN.( The over under for waterfowl. ) Keep up the great work. jmp
Great video 👍🏼👍🏼 I’m from Germany and currently training a 9 month old Deutsch Drahthaar I’ve met a bunch of KLM‘s, great dogs that hunt clever and calm.
My two best bird dogs? Drahthaar, German Wirehairs, smart, determined, hardy in cold wet conditions. Family dogs. Love Brittany also, easier, not so determined!
I use a horse mane de tangler called “show sheen” on my SM for the burdocks. Spray on before a hunt and he comes back with less burrs and they are easier to get out. I get it at tractor supply.
have known about and had experience with them since 2003 -- I had LM's, hunting buddy has SM's -- first met at our local NAVHDA club best two breeds in the world for hunting and family -- only slightly biased like you said -- driven -- my first LM would hunt till his paws were raw if you let him, fantastic nose great personality -- like the SM's, just more of them to love
That was very informative and interesting, never heard of that breed. What’s the average weight of an adult female?? Your dog is beautiful. Nice to see this other side of you. Keep up the great videos. God Bless
Great video! I have 2 French bulldogs and they aren’t very good hunters. 😂. Why did you pick this breed over say a Britney? I am looking at getting a dog this spring and am curious. Thanks!
The Kleines in specific as opposed to a small Munsterlander is the German testing and breeding standards. German dogs are often times bred for fur more so than French dogs. I get German Shorthairs and tight coated pudelpointers personally. I like to hunt fur and do a lot of tracking. I also don't like dealing with burs and like dogs around 55 to 65 lbs. There are tons of great Brittanys, just make sure you find a quality breeder. Find a local NAVHDA chapter and see multiple breeds and multiple lines. Tons of great dogs out there.
Hunted over a pair of KLM my buddy has (male and female). Very mellow in the house, not as driven as gsp’s in the field, but seemed to be very adept in the fields we hunted for pheasant. Male was very attached to his owner, wouldn’t hunt when he tried to take a turn blocking.
My favorite is the field bred Gordon setter... incredible nose. Excellent pointing ability..bird wise. An off switch but huge amounts of personality.chukar Huns grouse pheasants duck super charged in the field with overnight recovery.
i’m on my third gordon. wide variety of bird sense depending on breeder and genetics. i prefer round head over the square head prefered by show folks. current gordon has incredible nose, retrieves on command, and has NEVER had a false point in 4 years. great on quail, woodcock, pheasant and doves. energy for days. hunts rabbit as a side hobby.
@@timothysotelo3868 they are great dogs and I love mine. She sleeps in my bed every night. But in the field she doesn't want to know you...she is so serious it's incredible how serious she takes hunting..a pointing retrieving machine like you never seen...and smoking fast for as many days you want to hunt.
Awesome information!! I always know when you post these sit-down style videos I am going to learn something new. Also, It's pretty funny / ironic that when explaining how smart the dog is, you spelled 'intelligence' incorrectly. I used to spell rough "ruff" when submitting my "rough draft" papers for review until I finally figured it out in like 10th grade...
Awesome dogs. I’ve never heard of them. I’ve always wanted a hunting dog , but where I live I wouldn’t be able to actually hunt with them that often. Maybe one day when I’m retired I could get a good dog and move closer to hunting fields.
I’m a retriever guy a a general rule. I’ve had a few labs. Currently have a golden (field bred and tested) and have a springer from field trial lines as my pheasant/guide dog. I’ve put a lot of thought into getting a KLM. I’ve hunted with a few. How do you feel about range? One of my things is I want a dog that ranges 150-200 yard in appropriate ground, then tighten up in the woods or in thicker cover. I’ve been told that KLM are closer working methodical dogs. I’d like to find one that is a little leggy and covers ground when sharp-tail hunting
Generally the KlM are closer working dogs as you mentioned. Not saying you couldn't work with them to get them to range more but most naturally work closer.
Ive had and love the Friesche Stabij! They look and sound very similar to this breed, also Munster and Friesland are not that far from eachother geographically! I love to have a local breed as well (im dutch)
Sounds like the French Brittany, especially the hunting drive, "off switch" at home, versatile. My girl hunts constantly when let outdoors. Be fun to hunt with you , come visit Utah , Nevada
I hunt rice for waterfowl and pheasants on a club northeast of Sacramento, Is this dog a good fit for the climate I hunt and the type of hunting I do? Great informative video, Thanks
SM is very likely my next dog. Right now I run a Vizsla or V-Rex LOL. She's an awesome girl to be sure but its my first pointing dog and she reflects the mistakes I make. :)
I've been grouse hunting for over 50 years I've never heard of that breed looks and sounds very interesting beautiful dog I had hemlock setters and elbow pointers out of new York. Not the pointers like my dad had mainly quail. I don't have a problem with a gamey dog if they mess with other game sometimes that can be a problem I never minded my dogs pointing a rabbit but if he ran it we've got a problem. Most dogs get punished because they embarrassed the owner in front of hunting partner don't be that guy. I love bird dogs I can tell you do to. Love your dogs
I have had quite a few SMs/KlMs and bred 5 litters of them. They are a fine breed as described in Steve's video. For a grouse dog, however, there are a few caveats. One is the issue of tracking ability,i which creates a catch 22. A good tracking dog, and the SM is one, tends to put its nose to the ground too much. For getting ruffed grouse pointed, this is a negative. The best grouse dogs hunt fast and with the nose in the air, stop and point when hitting the air scent. This is why you do not see SMs competing well in grouse field trials. Pointers, Setters, Brittanies, and occasionally others dominate in grouse trials. The one other negative I have experienced is that the SM/KLM, like many German breeds, is a bit high in dog aggression. Perhaps a side effect of high prey drive in general. Most of the testing done with these breeds run the dogs solo, and a problem with dog aggression, which would disqualify a dog being run in a brace, doesn't figure in assessing breeding quality. Don't get me wrong, I love the breed, but no hunting dog can do everything. Solon Rhode.
They excel in cold water. I live in N. Minnesota. Late season ducks no problem. They don't tollerate heat well at all. Below 20 degrees F. is where they like it.
I almost got one but got a SM instead. DT are gorgeous but they are not as versatile. I also worry that they have become too popular and too many non hunters own them. This phenomena has ruined several breeds. Most SM breeders will discourage non hunters from getting one. Very happy with mine. He is relentless in field with an incredible nose - in three years of hunting he has NEVER not found a bird I knew we hit. He is also an incredible watchdog - I know Amazon delivery guy is coming as soon as he turns the corner on our street. Like everybody says, very chill in the house. Only downside is that like every working dog, they require lots of exercise,
I almost got one but got a SM instead. DT are gorgeous but they are not as versatile. I also worry that they have become too popular and too many non hunters own them. This phenomena has ruined several breeds. Most SM breeders will discourage non hunters from getting one. Very happy with mine. He is relentless in field with an incredible nose - in three years of hunting he has NEVER not found a bird I knew we hit. He is also an incredible watchdog - I know Amazon delivery guy is coming as soon as he turns the corner on our street. Like everybody says, very chill in the house. Only downside is that like every working dog, they require lots of exercise,
@@henrymichaels1033 thankyou Henry. Fully agree with you regarding the none hunting fraternity spoiling the hunting line of certain breeds & yes, people who do not hunt should not be allowed to own the hunting breeds, its almost cruel.
Your pups look almost exactly like my field bred English Springer Spaniels. I would be very surprised if they are not extremely similar in genetic makeup.
I have an English setter and I don’t think I’ll ever not own one but I’m also going to try other pointing breeds in there including this one, I want to try the Italiano bracco, the English pointer, a French Britney, I only upland hunt mainly so the whole duck dog is a plus but I’m not worried about that one
I live in Serbia and currently my father is having his third SM. Best birddog breed. Fearless! They are not afraid of anything! Not even a vet 😅 Thunder, explosion, bigger animals, they just don't back down. They are willing to accept fight with any dog, regardless of size. Most of the time they will not start but they will accept fight. But the switch thing is really drastic. From 0 to a 100 in a split of a second. I just don't get why that breed isn't more popular, not even in Germany (talked about jt with a guy from Munster).
Labs are great but they are not better at everything, just as the KLM is not better at everything. At the end of the day, get what you love and what works best for you. If you are happy, I am happy.
I know nothing about a KLM besides what you said in this video, but I do not see any pics of a KLM sitting in a duckblind soaking wet while ice is forming on its coat. Can they?
I attempted to buy another hunting breed, but there were so many requirements from the breeder, including that I would not be able to get the dogs papers, if I did not proved that my dog was a hunting dog… I am NOT willing to spend lots of money on a dog, and have a stranger determine what and how I should raise my dog. I passed because of that, not the Dog and for what you are mentioning here, this would be the same scenario…
I get that you want a good blood line and hunting is a big part of why people want these dogs but it's tough to take as an American that you can't have a certain breed if you're not a hunting family.
A youtuber hunting in South Dakota uses this dog on pheasant. I crossed a Weimaraner and a lab. Weimador is what I got. Dog mix has worked out well, only two more to re-home.
@@TargetFocusedLife the hunter has a very small channel, I have looked at many post on hunting in South Dakota. If I find that channel I will let you know. The weimaraner is like your dogs to smart for there good. Weims have same characteristic as the munsterlander- both from Germany
I had a SM 30 years ago. He was the 500th in the US according to the munsterlander society. What an awesome dog. My wife and he were buddies, he chewed a few of her shoes….The dog was phenomenal in the field or in the water. Laid back at home, until I got my vest and his bell, then he would sit and whine by the door until we went hunting. Had him for 13 years. Still miss him.
Sounds like you had a great dog! Thanks for sharing.
We have a 7 month old female SM and she's the best pup ever! Smart, energetic, a fantastic cuddle buddy and great with the grandkids! I actually hadn't heard of them until around the time she was born.
Wirehaired Pointing Griffon here. Great temperament, minimal shedding, excellent pointer and retriever, loves water. Also knows how to chill when not hunting.
This! As long as you’re getting one from a reputable breeder, the training should be a cakewalk. I feel like my pup came preloaded with everything he needed internally to know how to hunt birds. Within a half hour of his first time he was already holding a 30+ second point
@@Obarkc I recently hunted with two WPG, wonderful dogs, great pointers/retrievers, Ill be getting a pup hopefully summer /25.
I am german. I grew up in the region "Münsterland". We had a "Kleiner Münsterländer", also called "Heidewachtel" bei insiders. She was an extremly smart, beautyful sweet, but also watchful dog. She chased after mice, rats, squirrels, birds and so on and caught them, if we did not stop her fast. She could track for miles. Also she could run next to a horse or bike at full speed for miles on end, have a short break and do it all over again. They are almost as agil as a Malinois, but easier to handle and usually not aggressive. She was a wonderful family companion. They are absolutly not the right dog for lazy people! 😉😁
We also call them Heidewachtel in die Niederlande.
I got one in June, now 9 months old. Your description is bang on. In the house he is cool. Point birds and hunting, it's like he's on crack... Lol!
@FKdohle705 🤣🤣
I'm getting one this next spring! Glad someone is finally making a video on this breed!
i am a VJHV judge in the german dog system and have judged quite a few KLMs. They are a wonderful dog and I whole heartily endorse the breed. Although they aren't my dog of choice, they really are a great dog. This is a very good explanation of the German testing system and the benefits of following a tight breeding standard.
What is your dog of choice. I live in Northern California in the flyway and duck hunt. Also hunt quail chucker and grouse in Nevada in Montana. I was thinking of a German wire her pointer or a pointing Griffon until I saw this video. I just know for sure I don’t want a Labrador lol
Been raised on German Shorthairs, but all bird dogs are awesome.
Love mine! Got my first pup in 2013 and had her club approved for breeding shortly thereafter. We’ve had three litters since and have kept one pup from our second litter. Sadly we lost our first SM last spring but we still have her daughter. Love this breed.
My brother has one. She’s tracked deer, retrieved squirrels, ducks, etc. She’s also fun to have around the hunting camp and loves to play with the kids.
Great video, Steve. Dogs look and sound awesome. I grew up with English and then German shorthair pointers. Love all bird dogs!
Living in the middle of the „Münsterland“ I am tickled so see this. Respect for not misspelling it and a pretty good pronounciation.
Greetings out of the Münsterland 👋🏻
@@tomlongbow Ich komme 80km entfernt von Münster in die Niederlande und habe einen Große Münsterländer. Lebe jetzt in Schottland.
Started watching your shotgunning videos now great to see the small munsterlander getting the love they deserve. Grew up around them they are great dogs and yes they love to hunt, and no they don't care for what. Recall our first taking off after what turned out to be a black bear as a pup. I personally don't own one right now but have family with them and they do have a special place in my heart.
Pudelpointers are another great versatile dog. Mine has the off switch in the home but a hunting machine in the field. Low shedding is also a plus with our dog. Overall a great dog.
We have an 11 month old Pudelpointer and she's fantastic. Easy to train, she started hunting in September and hasn't slowed down, waterfowl and upland too.
These are excellent dogs, the German breed system makes it so, good explanation of how it works
I have had 2 Munsters. They are wonderful dogs both in the home and in the field. I am looking to get another once I retire to Kentucky next years.
Shortish fur coat German Wiredhair Pointer here! Absolutely love her, surprisingly pretty calm in the house as long as the owners (me) are calm and also have a ON switch the minute you get in the woods or field. I do enjoy the KLM coat for sure. Absolutely love the roan fur coats.
Just got a field bred english cocker spaniel, it's my first upland dog and he's easy to train and great in the house. We've had a couple successful hunts this year for pheasants.
So interesting! Thanks very much, Steve. Would love to learn more about different types of bird dogs.
Glad you enjoyed it. I would love to learn more as well. It would be best if I could team up with other experts and their respective breed.
We have a SM for our first bird dog and she has been great. Loves to hunt and is great in the house. Size is perfect and makes her easy to handle for me and my wife. So glad we discovered this breed when we were searching for a bird dog. Now the wife wants a second one haha.
When you don't have enough chaos in the house. 😂
Great job on this video, good luck with your litter! Bobbe
Great Video. I also have a KLM, from Swanson kennels. Great Breed, as are all the German versatile dogs.
Brittanies share a lot of these pros and cons
There are no cons to Brittanys!!
My Britt sure does. Hard hunter and she loves to be around people.
Tend to agree. I’ve had at least 1 Brittany my entire life. Along with other upland and retriever breeds. Some of my Brits have been burr collectors. Others more like labs - their fur varies widely among dedicated hunting stock and what part of the country they’re from.
I never saw Münsterländers in the field in the upper Midwest until about 10 years ago. Now they are becoming almost common. Probably because of the characteristics you state. I lost my top upland dog to old age last year - a 55 pound, long legged male Brittany and was looking for a replacement pup. A Munsterlander was one of 2 very different choices. The other being a German Wirehair Pointer. I chose the GWP. If you like the mild home disposition of a Munsterlander do NOT get a GWP lol. My 8-month-old female GWP is the naughtiest most energetic dog I have ever had. The only place she is a pleasure is in the field. She picks up EVERYTHING in the house under 50 lbs and chews most of it. She’ll be running around on top of my kitchen counters, even on top of my refrigerator if I take my eyes off her. Desks, tables - merely pedestals to show off her “magnificence”. She LOVES all new people - way too much. Her wiggle butt becomes a blur. She would and does jump into any stranger’s car or truck to investigate and hopefully “go for a ride” when anyone who doesn’t know her opens their door within 25 yards of her. Interestingly unlike all my other dogs through the years (Brittanys, Labs, Chesapeake Bay Retrievers, Germain Shorthairs, Springers, Airedales) she does not chase/bite/kill raccoons, cats, skunks, deer, squirrels, porcupines…. She’s very interested but keeps her distance. She is ungodly bird oriented - which is a very good thing especially considering all her other naughty traits. Is this a GWP behavioral thing - I very much doubt it. My breeder has a quite intensive, unique regimen for his litters with house cats and lots of live birds introduced to them once their eyes are open along with many other activities and experiences.
I love my German shorthair
Went Chukar hunting with my Gordon Setter and saw a Small Munsterlander for the first time. Had a great conversation with the hunter and we talked about both dogs.
Love the video Steve but do have to comment on the comparison photo with the springers. Had you used photos of Field Bred Springers you would have seen more of a similarity with a bit longer tails, smaller ears and shorter hair. Not to mention markings very similar to the KlM. None the less they are both beautiful hunting dogs! Keep the great videos coming!!
Good point. When I went to get a picture of Springers I had to debate what to use since there is a big difference. I had honestly never seen one of the Field Bred Springers, so I used the image that looked similar to most of the Springers I have seen. I would love to learn more about the Field Bred.
Amazing dogs. We have wire hair pointing griffons WPG’s also dog worth chatting about. Thank you for sharing.
Great info on the KlM. I have a Epagneul Breton (French Brittany). Their club standards are the same as yours. Can you run your KIM's in UKC pointing tests ? CEB can run hunt tests
and conformation. The main CEB are held once a year here in the US. Judges from France come and judge hunt and the conformation tests. One draw back from your breed is the
burr thing !! Keep up the good work on your breeding. Strict practices are the only way we can keep our dogs pure. Thanks Steve-Merry Xmas to you and the Family
Steve, have hunted with someone's Large Muensterlander.
BEAUTIFUL dog. Love to see you branching out with your videos. Been here a few years, will be here a few more. But PLEASE, bring us a review on the Weatherby Orion -SXS- ! I've given up on the request for the CZ Redhead -ALL TERRAIN.( The over under for waterfowl. )
Keep up the great work.
jmp
I'm very surprise how this breed is beautiful like the springer.
Labrador Reteriver and Germanshepherds are our family dogs. Both work and serve a purpose for our family.
I’ve seen them frequently. They are great dogs. I would love to own one
Very beautiful sweet looking dog 🐕
German wirehaired pointer aka Deutsch Drahthaar!!! The best breed!!!
Very interesting and informative video. Who doesn’t like learning more about another dog breed?
PUPPIES! I think they look like a Springer x Long Haired Pointer
Great video 👍🏼👍🏼
I’m from Germany and currently training a 9 month old Deutsch Drahthaar
I’ve met a bunch of KLM‘s, great dogs that hunt clever and calm.
My two best bird dogs? Drahthaar, German Wirehairs, smart, determined, hardy in cold wet conditions. Family dogs. Love Brittany also, easier, not so determined!
I use a horse mane de tangler called “show sheen” on my SM for the burdocks. Spray on before a hunt and he comes back with less burrs and they are easier to get out. I get it at tractor supply.
Living in Norway, hunting pretty much anything with our 2 klm, both feathered and furred game. Excelllent tracking dogs as well. Love them ❤
have known about and had experience with them since 2003 -- I had LM's, hunting buddy has SM's -- first met at our local NAVHDA club
best two breeds in the world for hunting and family -- only slightly biased
like you said -- driven -- my first LM would hunt till his paws were raw if you let him, fantastic nose great personality -- like the SM's, just more of them to love
That was very informative and interesting, never heard of that breed. What’s the average weight of an adult female?? Your dog is beautiful. Nice to see this other side of you. Keep up the great videos. God Bless
They look like the "Springer Spaniel"?
Great video! I have 2 French bulldogs and they aren’t very good hunters. 😂.
Why did you pick this breed over say a Britney?
I am looking at getting a dog this spring and am curious.
Thanks!
The Kleines in specific as opposed to a small Munsterlander is the German testing and breeding standards. German dogs are often times bred for fur more so than French dogs. I get German Shorthairs and tight coated pudelpointers personally. I like to hunt fur and do a lot of tracking. I also don't like dealing with burs and like dogs around 55 to 65 lbs. There are tons of great Brittanys, just make sure you find a quality breeder. Find a local NAVHDA chapter and see multiple breeds and multiple lines. Tons of great dogs out there.
They look exactly like my Springer Spaniel. And they seem to have exactly the same characteristics.
They hunt very different though.
Can you do German Shorthaired Pointer?
I had a Muenster for 16 years. One thing you didn't mention about them is a lack of heat tolerance. They run great when it's below 20 degrees F.
Hunted over a pair of KLM my buddy has (male and female). Very mellow in the house, not as driven as gsp’s in the field, but seemed to be very adept in the fields we hunted for pheasant. Male was very attached to his owner, wouldn’t hunt when he tried to take a turn blocking.
My favorite is a red fox Labrador retriever
My favorite is the field bred Gordon setter... incredible nose. Excellent pointing ability..bird wise. An off switch but huge amounts of personality.chukar Huns grouse pheasants duck super charged in the field with overnight recovery.
i’m on my third gordon. wide variety of bird sense depending on breeder and genetics. i prefer round head over the square head prefered by show folks. current gordon has incredible nose, retrieves on command, and has NEVER had a false point in 4 years. great on quail, woodcock, pheasant and doves. energy for days. hunts rabbit as a side hobby.
@@grandunionnews2510 mine won't even look at a rabbit. But wow what a hunting , pointing , retrieving machine
I had a Gordon name Luci. Great dog and I miss her.
@@timothysotelo3868 they are great dogs and I love mine. She sleeps in my bed every night. But in the field she doesn't want to know you...she is so serious it's incredible how serious she takes hunting..a pointing retrieving machine like you never seen...and smoking fast for as many days you want to hunt.
A super dog for sure
Yes lost of experience with NAVHA and I have a Wirehair pointing Griffon. All NAVHDA are great.
Awesome information!! I always know when you post these sit-down style videos I am going to learn something new. Also, It's pretty funny / ironic that when explaining how smart the dog is, you spelled 'intelligence' incorrectly. I used to spell rough "ruff" when submitting my "rough draft" papers for review until I finally figured it out in like 10th grade...
Awesome dogs. I’ve never heard of them. I’ve always wanted a hunting dog , but where I live I wouldn’t be able to actually hunt with them that often. Maybe one day when I’m retired I could get a good dog and move closer to hunting fields.
I’m a retriever guy a a general rule. I’ve had a few labs. Currently have a golden (field bred and tested) and have a springer from field trial lines as my pheasant/guide dog. I’ve put a lot of thought into getting a KLM. I’ve hunted with a few.
How do you feel about range? One of my things is I want a dog that ranges 150-200 yard in appropriate ground, then tighten up in the woods or in thicker cover. I’ve been told that KLM are closer working methodical dogs. I’d like to find one that is a little leggy and covers ground when sharp-tail hunting
Generally the KlM are closer working dogs as you mentioned. Not saying you couldn't work with them to get them to range more but most naturally work closer.
Get a Large Munsterlander. Ranges 150-200 for sage grouse
Ive had and love the Friesche Stabij! They look and sound very similar to this breed, also Munster and Friesland are not that far from eachother geographically! I love to have a local breed as well (im dutch)
Yep! I have one from Gretchen’s A litter. 😁
Hows the shedding ? Anything like a lab ?
Hmmmm…this sounds like a great dog breed to consider, not sure I’ve seen a breeder in Idaho but I’ll be checking when I’m ready
Sounds like the French Brittany, especially the hunting drive, "off switch" at home, versatile. My girl hunts constantly when let outdoors.
Be fun to hunt with you , come visit Utah , Nevada
I hunt rice for waterfowl and pheasants on a club northeast of Sacramento, Is this dog a good fit for the climate I hunt and the type of hunting I do? Great informative video, Thanks
How are they I cold weather?
Are these and the small munsterlander the same thing
Haven't heard of that breed. I do have a 4 year old German Short Haired Pointer (GSP).
Seem like nice dogs. I like having a dog that versatile. I have field bred goldens
Was raised around and always had English setters, was wondering how much one of your male pups goes for?
SM is very likely my next dog. Right now I run a Vizsla or V-Rex LOL. She's an awesome girl to be sure but its my first pointing dog and she reflects the mistakes I make. :)
I've been grouse hunting for over 50 years I've never heard of that breed looks and sounds very interesting beautiful dog I had hemlock setters and elbow pointers out of new York. Not the pointers like my dad had mainly quail. I don't have a problem with a gamey dog if they mess with other game sometimes that can be a problem I never minded my dogs pointing a rabbit but if he ran it we've got a problem. Most dogs get punished because they embarrassed the owner in front of hunting partner don't be that guy. I love bird dogs I can tell you do to. Love your dogs
I have had quite a few SMs/KlMs and bred 5 litters of them. They are a fine breed as described in Steve's video. For a grouse dog, however, there are a few caveats. One is the issue of tracking ability,i which creates a catch 22. A good tracking dog, and the SM is one, tends to put its nose to the ground too much. For getting ruffed grouse pointed, this is a negative. The best grouse dogs hunt fast and with the nose in the air, stop and point when hitting the air scent. This is why you do not see SMs competing well in grouse field trials. Pointers, Setters, Brittanies, and occasionally others dominate in grouse trials. The one other negative I have experienced is that the SM/KLM, like many German breeds, is a bit high in dog aggression. Perhaps a side effect of high prey drive in general. Most of the testing done with these breeds run the dogs solo, and a problem with dog aggression, which would disqualify a dog being run in a brace, doesn't figure in assessing breeding quality. Don't get me wrong, I love the breed, but no hunting dog can do everything. Solon Rhode.
How do they handle a big goose over water?
How do they do in cold northern water. Currently have Labrador that hunts 75% duck and 25% pheasant. Love my dog but do love hunting over a pointer.
They excel in cold water. I live in N. Minnesota. Late season ducks no problem. They don't tollerate heat well at all. Below 20 degrees F. is where they like it.
My cousin has one and she’s a great dog. I’m interested in a female pup?
Alway fancied having a Duck Toller..
Id appreciate any advice people have got on that breed please.
I almost got one but got a SM instead. DT are gorgeous but they are not as versatile. I also worry that they have become too popular and too many non hunters own them. This phenomena has ruined several breeds. Most SM breeders will discourage non hunters from getting one. Very happy with mine. He is relentless in field with an incredible nose - in three years of hunting he has NEVER not found a bird I knew we hit. He is also an incredible watchdog - I know Amazon delivery guy is coming as soon as he turns the corner on our street. Like everybody says, very chill in the house. Only downside is that like every working dog, they require lots of exercise,
I almost got one but got a SM instead. DT are gorgeous but they are not as versatile. I also worry that they have become too popular and too many non hunters own them. This phenomena has ruined several breeds. Most SM breeders will discourage non hunters from getting one. Very happy with mine. He is relentless in field with an incredible nose - in three years of hunting he has NEVER not found a bird I knew we hit. He is also an incredible watchdog - I know Amazon delivery guy is coming as soon as he turns the corner on our street. Like everybody says, very chill in the house. Only downside is that like every working dog, they require lots of exercise,
@@henrymichaels1033 thankyou Henry.
Fully agree with you regarding the none hunting fraternity spoiling the hunting line of certain breeds & yes, people who do not hunt should not be allowed to own the hunting breeds, its almost cruel.
How much do you sell them for.
Your pups look almost exactly like my field bred English Springer Spaniels. I would be very surprised if they are not extremely similar in genetic makeup.
you have pictured a bench springer spaniel. The field springer spaniel looks just like a munsy
I’ve a field bred springer in black and white undocked, he’s really tall and lean, I’m often asked if it’s Munster, 👍
GWP are the king of German breeds!
I have an English setter and I don’t think I’ll ever not own one but I’m also going to try other pointing breeds in there including this one, I want to try the Italiano bracco, the English pointer, a French Britney, I only upland hunt mainly so the whole duck dog is a plus but I’m not worried about that one
Never heard of this breed
I live in Serbia and currently my father is having his third SM.
Best birddog breed. Fearless! They are not afraid of anything! Not even a vet 😅 Thunder, explosion, bigger animals, they just don't back down. They are willing to accept fight with any dog, regardless of size. Most of the time they will not start but they will accept fight.
But the switch thing is really drastic. From 0 to a 100 in a split of a second.
I just don't get why that breed isn't more popular, not even in Germany (talked about jt with a guy from Munster).
I have a Large Münsterländer. They are equally good at HPR. Have a look at this breed.
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Are these dogs hypoallergenic?
No
I have not heard of them. Looks like a cross between Springers and Brittanies
I own 2 moonsters right now.
KLM gets to do AI breeding? I own Drahthaars we don’t get to do AI breeding. GNA is working on it
I have seen them, but never heard of this breed….
I’ve never heard of them
I looked at on couple years ago, no breeder's in my area .
It can be tough to find a breeder near you. We have buyers that come from all across the country to pick up a pups.
Where are you located?
@@TargetFocusedLife Southeast Pennsylvania
Every breed is versatile.
Kleine Münsterländer or French Brittany for bird dogs.
I would have said Brittany!
GSP for the win! Most versatile hunting dog. Got 2 of them
Beagles and only beagles. Those who own and work them know why.
Labrador retriever is the only breed I'll ever own. They are better at everything
Labs are great but they are not better at everything, just as the KLM is not better at everything. At the end of the day, get what you love and what works best for you. If you are happy, I am happy.
I know nothing about a KLM besides what you said in this video, but I do not see any pics of a KLM sitting in a duckblind soaking wet while ice is forming on its coat. Can they?
Yes they can! I use my Large Münsterländer in a blind a lot.
Looks like a GWP but with a pedigree like thoroughbred horse.
I attempted to buy another hunting breed, but there were so many requirements from the breeder, including that I would not be able to get the dogs papers, if I did not proved that my dog was a hunting dog… I am NOT willing to spend lots of money on a dog, and have a stranger determine what and how I should raise my dog. I passed because of that, not the Dog and for what you are mentioning here, this would be the same scenario…
Just put a deposit down on an LM!
Nope, never heard of them. They look similar to Springer’s
I get that you want a good blood line and hunting is a big part of why people want these dogs but it's tough to take as an American that you can't have a certain breed if you're not a hunting family.
A youtuber hunting in South Dakota uses this dog on pheasant. I crossed a Weimaraner and a lab. Weimador is what I got. Dog mix has worked out well, only two more to re-home.
Do you know that name of the TH-camr? I've never hunted with a Weimaraner, what do you like most about them?
@@TargetFocusedLifeGerman lines tend to be gritty, usually good dogs with a certain Reputation.
@@TargetFocusedLife the hunter has a very small channel, I have looked at many post on hunting in South Dakota. If I find that channel I will let you know. The weimaraner is like your dogs to smart for there good. Weims have same characteristic as the munsterlander- both from Germany