6 Tips I wish I had known before Racing a Marathon
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- The lessons we learn in life! You really cannot race a perfect "first marathon", very few nail that first 26.2. I definitely learned many lessons in the Amsterdam Marathon and the New York City Marathon, which I'm excited to share with all of you today. I do hope that these marathon tips come in handy as you chase down your own marathon goals moving forward. Let us know down in the comments if you're racing your first marathon in 2020, or any of the tips that you wish you had known before your first marathon.
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QD: My main tip would be: don’t let the rush, the stress, and the adrenaline during the first 10k let you run faster than you planned! There will be crazy fast starters among the other runners. Let them go. Even if you think they aim for the same time as you. Your body is in complete top condition and full of energy after your training and taper weeks. You will think you can do that 10 or 20 seconds per km faster than you planned ... DON’T. The Wall is real.
Well I as a first time half marathoner signed up with a estimated finish time of about 3 hours. I’m currently at 1hr 55 mark from the training. So I can definitely see people in my bracket gonna end up burning out trying to keep pace with me lol
Agreed Bert!
It is very real indeed, I’ve felt it and it wasn’t pretty…
I ran my 1st. Marathon in Houston on Jan. 19, 2020 Finish Time was 3:33:22 Trained for 6 months, watched a lot of your videos, listened to your running advises. Thank you Seth.
that's a very synchronistic finish time !!
How'd you like the Houston marathon. I'm doing woodlands in a few weeks 1st marathon ever.
Congrats
After a dozen or so marathons I've learned:
- Long training runs matter, at least 22 miles, up to 27. Train your body to be familiar with the distance.
- don't lose weight training, use salt tabs to prevent cramping after long runs and protein supplements every day.
- on race day focus, follow your plan with minor adjustments based on weather. This means proper pacing; don't bank minutes.
- but take heart, few people heed advice. Most of us have to learn by trial and (lots of) error. Persist.
Bernard Whitmore before my first marathon I had only run 10 miles before and did it for fun. I quickly learned there and in subsequent marathons just how important the long runs are haha
Salt tablets? Coumd having normal salt help?
@@georgeetboom7719 I'm not inclined to recommend increasing table salt. 'salt-stick' (the brand i use) is formulated to give you a variety of electrolytes designed to reduce heat stress and muscle cramping. On long-run training days I occasionally forget to take one before a run. The difference it huge! it's worth experimenting with - but in training, not on race day! Research it... i don't think increasing table salt very much would be a good idea.
Idk I ran my 1st marathon after my longest was 17. Hadnt planned for it, but after running for 3 hours figured i could run 2 hours more. Was tough but not too big of a deal
I think it really depends on how long you've been a runner - how much muscle you have and mental stamina.
My learning: To not mentally give up post hitting the wall. Take control of the mind
Its ok to hit the wall,
Its ok to feel a bit tired,
Its ok to feel some pain in the legs
Its ok to go slow
Its ok to use a run-walk-run strategy
But, its not ok to rest before crossing the finishing line
Biggest learning for me.
vennam anand Thank you for sharing this!!
My tip: try to simulate race day. So get up at the same time, eat your breakfast you intend to eat on raceday and do your long run at the same time the marathon starts. Also use the same gels/bars. I also have the same dinner the day before. Another tip, try to experiment with when to take your last drink before the race, so that you can go to the toilet just before the race and avoid having to go to a toilet just a few km in the race. Then just take a drink at every aid station.
The drink tip is great, I'm planning to run my first one here in Fl, legends race. I've been training for about a year and comfortable with 20-22 mile range so can't wait to check off the checklist but appreciate all the tips through videos and comments, a lot of experience out there.
Thanks for the tips. I made the toilet mistake on my first half marathon. That will never happen again
100%
2 tips:
1) DO NOT “bank” time. No No No
2) Pick up your effort the last 6 miles of your long runs.
ocelot4444 It means to start faster than your planned average pace and then try to hold on for as long as possible. Example: let’s say your goal is a 4:00 marathon-that’s a 9’09”/ mile pace. You decide to do the first 1/2 at 9 minute pace. That would give you a 3:56 finishing time. So that’s 4 minutes less-4 minutes in the bank. The logic is now you can do the second half slower, 9’19”/mile pace. The problem is that you must use a higher effort to run 9’ pace and your fatigue is thus higher, and even though 9’19” is a slower pace you are too tired to hold that pace because you spent too much energy in the first half of the race banking those 4 minutes.
I ran my first Marathon in August of 2019. At the time I had only been running for about 9 1/2 months. There is a philosophy here in my home town that you run your long run at a 10 min run 1 min walk tempo, and you run your race the same way. As a complete newbie I followed this protocol throughout all of my training. Then the Tuesday before the big day I went out with a different group. I ended up talking for hours with a guy that was actually one of the elite local athletes in the race. His last words to me were "you dont know what your in for or capable of run it straight for as long as you can. I did that but when I got to km 37 (I think that's about mile 23) I got in my own head. I was pacing about 4 mins ahead off my "A" goal so I decided "you dont want to crash at km 41 and not finish, just walk 1 min and finish the race". I didn't need to walk but the fear of not finishing in the last 5 km (as this was the farthest and fastest I had ever run without stopping) I thought this to be logical. As soon as I walked everything froze up in my legs....hamstrings seized right up and I slowed down 30 sec/km from what I was averaging throughout the entire 37 km prior. I didnt bonk, I didnt hit "the wall", I stopped running and it hurt me big time. I still finished under the "A" goal but only by 25 seconds....with that long winded story for context my #1 tip: DONT STOP RUNNING IF YOU DONT HAVE TO!
I will turn 65 this year and plan on running my first marathon, Seven Bridges in Chattanooga, TN on Oct 18. I started running in my 30’s and started running half marathons 3 years ago. I hope to run under 4 hours.
Good luck Byron and it's great you are doing it for us older guys!!
tenodogblu thank you and I like your AM Blues
@@runbyron Thank you Byron I appreciate that.
That is seriously impressive! Best of luck!
how did it go? i hope you reached your goal
I wish I would have known about Post-Marathon Blues before my first big race. My race didn't go well, even though I finished. But that wasn't what sent me down the tubes. It was the hole where training used to be, and the realization that the elation of accomplishing something very few people attempt turns into the feeling of alienation because most of the people around you can't relate to the accomplishment. By the second marathon I was mentally stronger and prepared for the post-race life. I planned recovery and base training out to six weeks post race, and the race went really well as did the weeks following the marathon.
11th marathon coming up. Biggest lesson is no matter how good you feel the first 10k, hold your pace or go slightly under. Otherwise you will pay dearly last 10k! Good luck everyone!
QD2. Great tips, Seth. My key tips for marathon success are: Trust your training, manage your pace, and avoid injury. I’m a veteran of 5 marathons. I hit the wall in only one of them (Boston 2018) which was my second and the only one where I didn’t BQ. As for training, I believe keeping to a solid training program that includes tempo runs, speed training, some hill work, recovery runs and progression long runs has been key. Regarding pacing, in my last 2 marathons in 2019, I stayed with the official pacers (with signs in the US and balloons in Dublin) and got to the finish with relative ease. They kept me from going out too fast at the start, which is incredibly easy to do. I think if you’re a middle of the pack runner like me, arranging pacing with other amateurs is risky. Finally, I feel thankful and blessed that I’ve been able to run and train without pain or injury, especially considering I’m age 60. I don’t do much except post-run stretching and foam rolling. I hope all of this holds for my current training for Boston in April.
QD: Tip from first marathon: long runs are more important than easy, interval, and other days. Get those LSDs in.
LSD you say?
LSD? Interesting strategy.
This is true running is a mental sort after all
Disagree 100%. LSD just trains your body to run long and slow. Increasing your speed and lactate threshold will help you run faster, ultimately allowing you to run a faster and stronger marathon.
QD: For my first marathon, I wish that I had put in more time building core strength so that I could have better posture late in the race. As I started to slump and lean forward, it changed the load on my legs and gave me a real bad muscle cramp in my calf. So, despite tiredness and the tendency to slump, it is so important to keep good posture late in the race.
I agree with this after my first marathon last October
This is great advice, although my first marathon was ages ago, I didn’t do any core/strength work. Needless to say, it was a tough slog. Now, 42 marathons deep, it’s still a tough slog, but I do work on my core. 🤷🏻♂️😂
What I wish I knew before my first marathon is how bad you are going to feel at times beyond mile 20. I don’t know how to prepare for it and I can never go back to number 1, but after the second marathon I realized mentally I could push through so much discomfort just from fatigue, and I could have pushed through more the first time around. The distance really hits you at the first go, so just prepare for discomfort and be ready to fight.
Did my first marathon in late 2018, I was very thorough in my preparation with fueling and hydration. I practiced every long run for the 14 week block. Never hit a wall and negative split quite well. I think the wall is related to proper fueling and hydration more than anything, get that right and your golden. I still think there is a big distinction to be made from running a marathon and racing a marathon too. Just going out there to finish is one thing and you probably can get away with far less preparation. For a BQ attempt or faster, the devil is in the details.
I think your right. Ran a marathon back in 2019 around my town and definatley didn't properly prepare, I ran the whole thing but I hit that wall... took me 4:40ish to finish. 2 years later I trained way harder and feel way better about my first official marathon tommorow. Aiming a sub 4 hour time, but I think I can do even better than that without hitting a wall again... my best training run was 21 miles in 2:57 at around 8:27 per mile
@@alexwaller5603 Good luck! Run your race! 👍
@@jimoconnor8597 thanks!
QOD: racing my 5th marathon in April.
My tip is to recover properly. In my first marathon cycle I didn’t prioritize how much rest is needed to recover from big and long workouts. If you do a 20+mile LR. Try to hit 9 hours of sleep the following night
Jarrod Crano
I suffer from sleep problems.
I’m lucky if I can get 4hr in a row of sleep.
Probably affects my recovery greatly.
Although I’ve been like this for a decade. Ever since I worked the night shift during highschool come to think of it.
Good point. After a long run I fall asleep at 10 PM easily, instead of 1 AM ;-) Lights out. Figurally and literally ;-)
@@fastinradfordable Same here. For me CBD oil actually helps (well it does have a little THC).
I'm going to run my first marathon in Rotterdam on the 5th of april 2020. I got diagnosed with MS, 6 years ago but luckily, aside from tiredness, I did not yet really experience any other negative consequences. Hoping to finish my race under 4 hours.
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Halfway point is mile 20.
Don't bank time
Get ahead on nutrition/gels.
I just finished the Disney Dopey Challenge a few weeks ago. My biggest lesson is that training isn’t just the running... nutrition, hydration, stretching, resting... all equally important!
QD: I signed up for my first marathon this coming November. Rock N’ Roll Savannah! Super excited to do this! I’ve done 3 halves and a 10 miler before so I feel confident I can do it. Just trying to stay injury free as volume increases.
Thank you Seth!!!! So very glad you're back. We all missed your daily encouragement😊
QotD: I am running my first marathon ever this year! March 1st at the Cowtown Marathon in Fort Worth, TX. Aiming for a 3:10:05 or better!
That was my first one last year! The big hill they talk about isn't that bad if you're ready for it. Plus the crowd support over the top is great! I ran a 3:06 and the last half was a little desolate at points. I'm excited to do the half this year..I heard after the split it's mostly downhill, Good luck out there!
Awesome advices! Advice: if you are not super competitive or aiming for a BQ: try to enjoy yourself as much as you can and focus on longevity.
Ran my 1st marathon September 2019, ran my 1st half marathon November 2019, running my 1st Ultramarathon in June 2020 all in the UK.
QOD: Only done one marathon last year but my one tip would be:
HILLY: don't focus on pace, the hills will dictate that, so focus on running hilly segments in training. If your marathon has three hills dispersed thru the course, try to mimick this in your training.
FLAT: Practise pacing :) get those 9 mi /15km sessions in where you dial-in to your expected marathon pace, get your body used used to that feeling.
Hope this helps?
My second marathon will be in 2021 all being well 👍
QD: I’m running my first marathon this year! NYC marathon, running for a breast cancer charity (not sure which one yet)
Allie Terranova good luck, that looks like an awesome race
when do you chose or do they chose you? and is it anything like BOSTON?
I have been researching what it takes enter as a charity runner and it is a "competition" itself.......
Congrats Allie! See you in NYC 🍎
dnice I was looking at BCRF and they only accept 10 people so I feel like that’s a bit competitive (which I don’t know why they’d turn people away but I guess they can’t get that many spots in the race). NYRR probably won’t put out charities until February but I know you can currently sign up to run with NYRR Team for Kids as your charity
@@Allie.terra17 Thank you- i just put nsme in for lottery in NYC. I am just putting in research for BOSTON 2021 as charity now and it is sooooooo competitive!!
About 20 charities offer 20-30 spots giving preference to people who commit to raising 10,000$.......GOOD luck for NYC
QD: My one tip would be pacing is key. It took me about two or three marathons to realize you have to stick to your pace and not go out to fast.
I wish I would of known how important gels are! Five miles? Don't wait because it will be too late! Everything Seth said is spot on!
I am currently in training for my first marathon now! With all the cancellation of organized events recently, I decided to create my own route that departs from my home, goes around upper lake washington, and returns to my home. It keeps me motivated and out of depression to have something to train for, and it will be my first marathon. I will be the only one running it, but still it will be a milestone for me!
I'm doin the same this Saturday!!! 1st time for me!!
Howd it go for ya?!
Regarding gels... tip from the triathlon world. Tape the top part versus the bottom part of the gel pack. If you tape the top section, you end up opening it when you rip it off therefore you don't have to struggle. Cyclists often tape them to their top-tubes for this reason - you can imagine not wanting to struggle opening gels while racing a bike!
QD: As a marathon veteran - not expert by any means - my tips are... try to simulate the weather, specifically temperature. We often travel to race and the change in temps can throw off hydration, clothing, etc. Biggest thing I've learned, you can't bank time - you can only bank energy. You've learned this and touch upon it. It's so tough to negative split, but thinking you have time in the bank by running faster the first half is a recipe for failure. Like you said, mile 20 onward is the real beast. PR's are made late in the race and destroyed by bonking late if one runs out of gas. Oh, and however possible, get as close to the front as possible before the gun goes off. Dodging people is not only physically taxing, it's mentally as well which can send your whole system out of wack. Train hard, run harder!
Racing my first marathon (LA) just over a month from now! I joined a running group before the training block and received some sage advice from a veteran: consider making three goals for yourself (best case scenario, likely outcome, unexpected setback) so that you don't have an all-or-nothing mentality. That said, I'm focused on a 6:50 pace and hoping to qualify for Boston in 2021. Thanks for the continued inspiration, Seth!
I’m racing my first 1/2 marathon October 4th, 2020. I started running last December and am hooked. I’m 42. Makes no sense, I always thought running was a waste of time minus the health benefits. I was a skater (skateboarder). Ran 1 mile in Fecember and had to stop twice. Then 2 miles now I’m at 9 miles. I don’t stop anymore no matter what. Can’t wait!!! Love your channel! Got myself the New Balance 1080v10 based on your review. Thanks for all the help and good luck on your next one!!
If you want to run a fast marathon and have an amazing experience. I recommend Valencia, Spain. The city is great and the finish line is spectacular. You will find a burger there too but would highly recommend a paella.
A lot of new marathon runners posting today. Best of luck this year!!!
A couple of things here one is not so much a tip for first runners - but overall. It will take time for you to develop the best marathon strategy for YOU. You can read everything that’s out there but every person has their own little tweaks they learn for themselves so experience and don’t be afraid to try new things for and edge. It took a few tries for me to dial in what works for me.
In relation to Seths last point try to close out your long runs say the last 3-6 miles (5-10 K) at marathon pace. It will teach you how to hang on in those last mikes when you are hurting.
One more in a shorter buildup it’s ok to sacrifice a bit on quantity for quality. Had some occasions when sat a 20 mile long run was either not possible or just kind of dangerous with the timing. Getting in a really good 16 at a stronger pace or Fartlek was the ticket to feeling strong and ready on race day. If I had tried to cram in 20 milers because many said it I am sure I would not have run as well.
Yep study the course route. I raced Athens years back didn’t realise the first 10km was up hill. Gav 🇬🇧
Ouch! That must have been a tough one!
😳
This was awesome. Honestly, expected to hear the standard stuff, but this was actually really useful and things one wouldn’t come up with without having run a marathon or two. This will help me tackle my first in October. Thanks!!
My very first Marathon 2020 on the Gold Coast Australia in July.
My aim is to enjoy the process.
QD: Yes, I'm running my first marathon in São Paulo, Brazil this year. Thanks for your tips Seth! Keep the great work!
Excellent 🙌🏼
I was there running the 2019 Amsterdam Marathon and my next will be the Brasilia Marathon on 19th Abril, same date of Hamburg. Great tips!
1:54 Congrats Seth and True Love!
QD: As a beginner, my only goal is to build my aerobic base this year, I’ll probably run a half marathon (no idea which one) but that will be towards the end of the year!
I am doing the same thing this year! Running my first half marathon in August. Good luck to you
Carri Tobler awesome! Best of luck to you as well!
It’s all about the bass, err, base! Enjoy the process! 👊🏼
QD: This year Tokyo will be my 20th marathon. Went from 3:57 in 2012 to 2:34 in 2018. Two tips - fueling and pacing. I think a lot of runners, me included, get those two wrong. Practising fueling is critical so the body is ready on race day and doesn't run out of energy = hit the wall. And pacing means to practise race pace, get comfortable with it and sticking to it through out the race. Because you will get uncomfortable eventually.
QD: never experiment with something new on race day. I learned this the hard way early in my running journey when I tried a couple new gels that came with the race packet. Find out what aid stations will be serving and start getting your digestive system used to that sports drink or food item
Hey Seth, love the vlog but usually don’t comment. I’ve just got to say while I understand I think you are kind of off with tip number 3 and I would replace it with my tip which would be: Run your race.
I was also a D1 XC runner so I know why you think the pace group is important, and it can be, but one big problem with a pace group is if you place too much importance on them you can run too fast or too slow at the wrong time. This was in my opinion your big mistake in Amsterdam. I don’t want to trash the idea of a pace group because I know the energy you get from it and how they can help but don’t be afraid to go in to no mans land where you have all the control. I ran a 2:22.07 at Paris last spring all on my own and I never would have done it if I was afraid to run my race.
I thought I would run like a 2:28 but after starting in the first block behind the elites and VIP group it took me about 10 miles to catch a pack of about 10 guys who told me they were going to run just under 2:30 even though I knew I was already a few minutes ahead of them since I started later but I felt good and pressed on. I ran by myself the whole time alone for a 9 minute PR.
T-Roy Brown. Nice! It’s all about knowing your body and your level of confidence. I think if a pace group helps to push you it’s good but if it’s for security probably not so great
QD: I ran my first marathon at Sevilla in 2019. Now I am training to run my second marathon at Paris next April and maybe a third marathon last quarter of 2020 at Florianópolis here in Brasil
I trained for a year before I ran my first and only marathon in October 2009. I finished under my goal time 4:55. I will NEVER run another one. I have also trained and completed 7 half marathons the first half was a year before the Marathon. Half's are a lot easier after training and completing a marathon. I'm bikepacking now. Cheers!
QD: Yes, me too! My first marathon in July, San Francisco. I’m tapering now for my second half in Sedona Arizona. 😱🙂
Good luck! I'm also doing SF, but for my 2nd ever marathon. I fell apart the last 5 - 6 mi last year, like Seth said so I'm hoping to have a better race this time.
me too! best of luck with the training! 💪
I ran my first marathon 3 weeks ago in Dubai Marathon 2020. It'll be the start of my many marathons. Thanks for the videos Seth.
I have do 30 plus and my biggest tip do 2 long runs a week and speed work 800 or 1000 X 10
QoD: A lot of running firsts for me this year!
May 30 - Dam to DSM 20k - Saylorville Dam, IA
June 27 - Run4Troops Marathon - Dubuque, IA
July 4 - Firecracker Run (10k) - East Moline, IL
July 25 - Bix7 (7mile) - Davenport, IA
October 3 - Hennepin Hundred (50mi) - Stirling, IL
Feels good just to write it out and see all the milestones in one spot!
SB-WH-LEO
Did you do it?
Most of them were canceled! But still got my miles in virtually!
I have run in the NYC marathon 4 times in the last 5 years, and I couldn't agree more with what you wrote. The beginning is a mess, but beautiful for the energy it delivers. And the crowd, let's talk about that! Before running the first one I drove on the course with my wife, and I think I have never been this tensed in my life.
QD: Greetings from Florida! YES!!! I'm running my first marathon this fall 2020 at Chicago Marathon!! Super excited!!! Thanks for all your videos and keep up the great work!
Celebrating turning 40 by running my first marathon in Manchester this year. Thank you for the tips.
I'm doing it too. Third Marathon after Southampton and Edinbourgh
QD: 1st marathon on May 3rd. Kalamazoo, MI. Small marathon close to my house so I can sleep in my own bed the night before.
I love the Kalamazoo Marathon!! It was my first marathon and definitely holds a special place for me. Helpful tip, the hills at miles 21/22 and 25 are brutal, so save your legs a little bit. Also the uphills before and after WMU's campus can be tough and sunny. Other than that, great course with wonderful spectators and awesome aid stations!! Sad I won't be able to run it this year
b_brush yep I heard about those hills. They’re actually changing the course all around this year with the start/finish at WMU and then a lot will be west into Oshtemo then down into Portage along all the Portage Bikeway and Bicentennial Trails. They haven’t released the new course map yet, but I have a feeling that there will be some decent hills leading back to WMU with the middle part flatter. Will be interesting. Hopefully they’ll release the course map soon so I can try some sections, especially the hillier portions.
QD: running my first marathon in 2020. Somewhat unintentionally, in fact. Signed up for the draft for the Berlin Marathon in a playful mood, thinking I'd never get in. Sure enough: I got drafted.
I do not know what to expect and I'm afraid of setting goals. Finishing is key. If I finish, I won't be very pleased if I don't cross the finish in less than 4 hours. Secretly, I think 3:30 should be possible with proper preparation and a smooth race day. I've got some 25-30km runs under my belt, and also some medium trails runs (1 to 2 ITRA-points), so I've done 3+ hour runs. I've already met The Wall on one of those trails, so I know it's real. I wish all of you the best of luck! Thanks for the tips, Seth.
Ran 1st marathon in 1981 London. I wish I'd known that two double espresso coffees about an hour before the start, ensure that your glycogen reserves are preserved for later in the run and thus extend your endurance range. Even a standard, relatively weak coffee, before the start helped me to take 55 minutes off my 1981 time, in the 1982 London marathon and left me feeling easier and less sore afterwards. Of course, experiment with this regularly in training and adjust the volume/strength of coffee if it affects you negatively. NYC marathon in 2020 ( a lot slower than London 1982 !).
Mike Scofield Wow - I did not know this. Did it act as a diuretic at all? I spoke to the Maurten rep about their caffeine gels and he recommended double coffee before the race, plus a caffeine gel every hour. Something to do with having 200mg of caffeine in your system at all times during the race? I usually save my caffeine gels until miles 18-20ish, but am going to experiment a lot more now to see if I can reap more benefits!
@@dinkyroo There is a study that suggests you get the benefits and no diruretic effect. But you need to experiment in training to ensure there no downsides for you. You'll find it online 😃
@@dinkyroo no real diuretic effect for me. Just the usual couple of visits to the loo beforehand. But everyone is different of course. I'd follow the recommendation of Maurten if I were you. Good luck in your marathon
I have four additional tips to add:
1) Swallowing salt packets/tablets to replenish your system every 40 mins of running.
2) Chaffing stick to prevent those annoying rashes and bloody nipples.
3) Stay in the center of the road because the sides have dips.
4) Start slow the first two miles. I've seen plenty of people burn out after mile two.
-20 Marathons completed (8 NYC). Learned from many mistakes.
QD: First Marathon! I’m a new dad and needed to find a way to stay fit that could fit the constraints of parenthood, so I signed up for the Ottawa Marathon May 24th. Goal of 3:30, nutrition planning is the thing which I’m still working on but I think I’ll end up using maple syrup. Thanks for the videos!
QotD. Mine is to stick to the plan or don't trust your instinct to change the plan 10 miles in. I'm two for two in blowing up. First time, was similar to your Amsterdam. Second was more contained. I thought I'd learned second my lesson but, like kofuzi in Houston, I convinced myself that I could let my HR run 5bpm faster and still be ok. I was wrong. All my mantras about sticking to the plan somehow flew out of the window when I was feeling great 10 miles in but 10s/mile slower than target. It's so, so easy for your heart to overrule your brain!
I will racing the third time at the Baden-Marathon in Karlsruhe (Germany)
2018 i did the 1/3 (14k)
2019 the half marathon
2020 is the year baby!
I’m running my first marathon in March, the Seoul Marathon. Feeling nervous because of the 5hr cut off. I know I can do it, because of my half marathon timing but it doesn’t help the nerves. You’ve helped me through my first half marathon and how to improve my timing and confidence. It’s really amazing that you are both very experienced but yet it feels like we are trying it together for the first time. Thanks for all the guidance and support.
If you want to go abroad again, I’d recommend looking at the 50k and 100ks on Jeju island, amazing trail races!
QD: First Marathon attempt. Newport RI! Saturday before Boston! Let’s goooooo!
Isn't that marathon in October?
QOD: Yes, I signed up for my first full on March 1st 2020!
Seth, I'm happy to know that you're going to race in Hamburg. It's a beautiful city, modern but also green and quiet. A piece of advice specific to Hamburg would be: careful walking/running on side roads and along canals, at times the pebbles are a bit random and there is no protection. Def bring a wind/waterproof jacket/pair of shoes, sudden showers are always possible!
I will be at the New York City Marathon! Can’t wait
QD: Edinburgh marathon for me in May. First one and doing it for charity. Downhill to start and then a nice flat course along the coast.
I done it last year. Great course, good atmosphere. It was my second Marathon after Southampton the year before.
QD: Yes! Racing 1 marathon this year in June (Charlevoix, MI) but will run around 3 or 4 more. Hoping to get a time of 2:50 or faster, but we'll see. And you're so right about the race starting at mile 20. One thing I've learned is the 10/10/10 rule. The first 10mi is just a warmup, a little slower than race pace. The second 10 miles is set to pace. The last 10k, push it as much as you can.
My first marathon is Manchester April 5th 2020. So excited. 👍
I'm racing my first road marathon in Rotterdam. I have done a lot of trail running races in the past but the marathon on the road always had an 'on hold' sticker for me. Now it's time to put the training in, thanks to your videos I'll be better prepared!
QD1: ran my first marathon in Houston 10 days ago. Hit my goal of sub-4 (3:58:35) and was able to run all 26 steady and finished strong, no wall.
QD2: get with a pace group at least for first mile or 2 as pacers know how to get through the crowds.
Barry Roberts
As you go faster I think you’ll find it easier.
4 hours on your feet is a hell of a lot harder than 3.
QD: Going too fast at beginning is so easy to do with 16 weeks of training and fresh legs. It's also easy to get delusional about fitness, so decide your race pace in advance and stick to it knowing that by mile 17 or so you'll be passing those who didn't stick to their plan.
manny T. Good advice! Yes, let the ego go in the beginning when everyone takes off too fast. You’ll be seeing them all again in a couple hours!
Thanks for shooting out this message. I will be running my first Marathon ever in Rotterdam 2020. Great tips and surely practicing the drinks and food-intake. I saw the profile but not much to worry about, still i'll examine a bit more. Going for 3h45 goal pace. Tip is eat, sleep and feel your body don't just crush miles. I try mentally focus on the later miles which are the ones where i like to be my best
My tip before first marathon is listen to Seth and get in as many 2hr+ runs as you can stand. Ideally at least 5 or 6.
Hell ideally 10+ runs over 2 hours.
I think it looked a little better in the shoe-deo with no spotlights like yesterday. Maybe it’ll grow on me.
QD: My debut marathon Nov. 7, 2020
Indianapolis Monumental Marathon
I’m doing my first marathon at the Baystate Marathon in Lowell, MA. Guaranteed to set a PR!
Lokithor I’ve heard great things about that race. Yes, this will be the only time you’re guaranteed to hit a PR. Enjoy it! 👊🏼
Super fast!! 2 loops and tremendous support. Set up your own hydration early that morning!!
QD: there are no guarantees! You can be in amazing shape, properly tapered and healthy and it even still may not go well.
QoD: 1st Marathon ever this year - London Marathon. (Won 2 entries from entering a competition after a few beers... seemed like a good idea at the time...).
As always solid information 🏃🏻♂️🍀
Ran my first marathon on Jan 20th this year at Louisiana Marathon! It was great (except the last 2-3 miles... ya... I started to question my life decisions ;) Great course though, beautiful, flat and there was an awesome after race stuff.
QD: Pacing - pace comparison tools are interesting but if you've never run a marathon, have a decent 1/2 marathon time and think you'll run your full at ((half marathon pace x 2) + a few minutes)....think again; really evaluate your marathon fitness and be honest about your preparation. How many long runs (18-22) have you done at marathon pace? If the answer is none or not many, reevaluate your time goal. I bonked after feeling great for 18 miles...ran 7:30 pace for 18 but ended up with an 8:14 pace marathon. Those were some really slow final 8 miles. My nutrition and hydration were great (i still think) but my fitness at that distance just wasn't there. As another point of reference, 5 weeks later I ran a half marathon at 6:44 pace. Since last October I've 1) increased my weekly mileage, 2) increased the number of long runs with final mileage at or below race pace and 3) decreased workout intensity to one repeat/threshold per week instead of two (adding more easy/steasy miles). I will take these lessons into my 2nd marathon Mar 1 and let you know if I learned anything.
Running my first marathon in October. It's a local one so I plan on running a lot of my long runs on the course so I'm that much more familiar with it.
Jkingstl That’s a great plan and will give you a huge advantage! Be sure to let us know how it goes, and how the training goes leading up to it! 👊🏼
QD 1: Running my second marathon in 2020 which will be the Boston Marathon. I was able to qualify off my first marathon in 2019 with a 2:54:19 (i negative split the race 1:28 then 1:25). Super excited to race a world major and also the oldest marathon in the country.
QD 2: I wish I would have known the strength is took to run a marathon. It’s a totally different beast and requires different strengths of the muscles, so for Boston I’m doing my diligence to work on them!
Good tips. I did my first marathon 3 weeks after a half Ironman last year. My long run in training was 1:30. I don't think I hit a wall but by mile 18 everything was getting so sore I just couldn't turn my legs over at 7:35 pace. I'm pretty mental tough so never walked ended up running a 7:45 pace.
My suggestions are,
1. simulate race conditions with training.
2. Don't run with music. Build that mental strength. You have to battle your head all day on race day.
3. Bring enough gels that you don't need to borrow any. Sometimes stations run out.
4. Always take some liquid at every station. Even if it's to swill your mouth or toss on your head.
5. Be ready to shut the pain off. Further, anticipate sore spots early in the race. Adjust your form to battle it early. I liken it to a sinking ship. You might as well sink a bit slower haha
6. Have fun marathon waddling the next day!
Thank you for this - I’m training for my first 50K ultra (road ultra - Calgary Marathon) and this channel has helped me immensely. Got new shoes because of you and I’m taking your advice to heart. This 50K will be my first race ever. I did a 64.5K “walk” in 2011, but otherwise - jumping into the big one.
I wish I had taken the whole week prior no running before the first race..the feeling in your legs after a week off feels incredible..now it's part of my normal routine
Really good video. Great tips. Another score in my book of great videos Seth!
Awesome remodel of the Shoedio, Seth!
Also congratulations on furthering your running career! I’m glad to see that the therapy ‘break’ is paying off.
I’m running my second half and my first full marathon this year!
Hi Seth , I’ll be running my first marathon in April in Newport, Wales . I will also be running the Lisbon half in March as part of my preparation. I am proud to be raising money for motor neurone disease research. (MyName’5 Doddie Foundation) .
1st Marathon ever will be the 42nd Gold Coast Marathon in Queensland July 5. Flat course and I plan to break it up into 4 pieces and over weeks leading up run each piece to profile in my mind.
Just ordered some gels to try out before race day. About 5 weeks to my first half marathon (my first race ever!) & I appreciate the advice about keeping pace. I could totally see myself trying to blast through the first 80% of the race and then hitting the wall. I've made a better effort to track and maintain my pace lately, so I'm hoping for the best! My goal is 1'39", LETS GO!
Practicing the last 10k in training.
It was my first marathon last 29th Jan and target was sub 3 but when I hit the wall at 32k, it was bad very bad that I had to walk till finish. But till 32k, I was on pace and suddenly after a big hill at 36k, I was completely finished.
QD. Don't set off too quickly. You have time to build on a couple of slower miles early on. I went too fast in Amsterdam and paid for it miles 20-26!
My thoughts for 3:30-4:00 people for me was: 1. Figuring out fluid solutions if you don’t do well with the drink offered on the course 2. What salt, electrolyte powders suit best in different temps (separate from gels) 3. Figure out how to get to your corral for bigger races, often harder/slower than you think 4. Holding yourself back thru miles 10-16 when you have tapered, warmed up and want to go faster
QD (part 2): this is a well established rule but it’s one I learned the hard way: don’t load up on a bunch of different food the days before your race. Stick to what you know and what has worked for you. And try to avoid greasy restaurant food. It’ll come back to haunt your butt on race day
QD: First Marathon for me will be Chicago this year. Can’t wait!
First ever road marathon in Ottawa in May. Taking a lot of information and inspiration from your channel Seth!
Seth:” How many people are running their first race in 2020?” The Rona: “uhuh uhh..not so fast..”
I've finished a couple marathons, and I plan to run the whole thing for the first time this year. My advice is to avoid under training and to avoid over training. That said, only you can decide what each of those concepts means in your training plan.
Question of the day:
I’m running my first marathon in Cork Ireland a city i found the love for running in 4 years ago! Thanks for all the content Seth! 😁
Good luck in Cork. I think I've run it 7 times. It's a nice course. There are a few tough drags between 17 and 22 and it tends to be hot most years but it's great all the same. The relay changeover points are a great place to get a boost along the way.
Ran my first half on Sunday at the surf city in Huntington Beach. Ran it in 1:40 with less than a month of prep. Running at most 6 miles a day. Definitely not a distance runner but I felt so good that day. Adrenaline/Holy Spirit really pushed me! Still can’t feel my legs tho