Rick from New Zealand. Although I've been a motorcycle fanatic since my early teens, and even worked in motorcycle shop for 15 years; after leaving school, I've never ever owned a Brit bike. I hops I can find a do-upper Trident one of these days, to work on, restore and ride into my up-coming retirement years. Thanks for your videos. I am now confident I could do one of these. Cheers
Thanks, If I can work on them anyone can. I have a friend in New Zealand who might be able to help you find a bike when you are ready. I just sent him most of a T160 and he seems pretty involved with the Brit bike scene there. All the best! Eddie
I am the same way, one of my fav channels is a heavy equipment mechanic and I have never even been within 10 feet of most of the machines he works on. I just like the mechanics of them and occasionally will pick up a useful wrenching tip. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for this Video series . Have one of these and its good that I can see this engine stripped down before I attempt anything on it and use it as a guide. Like to see a rebuild though. Greetings from Australia
Hello, thanks! I will be doing a few videos on my own Trident - carbs, valve adjustment and digging into the clutch but luckily no rebuild planned right now. This neglected engine has provided me with some good Spares should I ever need to do a rebuild. You never know though, i may come across another barn find, I am always looking. They are pretty rare around me though. All the best!
I like that when you order a tool like the puller, you instantly learn how to make a copy of it. I saw those drivers awhile ago... was it Mustie that had them, or AVE? Man... we found so much stuff today that it was crazy. We found a whole next garage sale of stuff! Nothing great mind you, but a ton of stuff. Video games, dvds, cds, baseball cards, stamp collections, post card collection, cross collection, art, a yard dump cart, some little tools (nothing to write home about), a guitar case, percussion instruments, garage heater, I don't even remember all of the stuff that filled the shed right back up. old sign, cool lights for filming, drum sticks, so much stuff that I didn't film, but the crazy one... a diamond ring! Something went down like an ugly divorce, and all the stuff was just pitched with zero F's given. -- I'm digging the drivers. I wonder how they'll hold up? Were they pricey? What a hunk of iron coming out of there with whole cam shaft! It's pretty hardcore looking.
Mustie had them a few videos ago, that is when I found them on Amazon finally. AvE will probably be cutting them up soon. I first saw them a year ago on a video from a guy in Australia. I ordered them then from some place in Australia and never got them, i got my money back though. When I get a lathe that threads I will never buy another screw in puller, of course this is the first one I have not had in quite awhile. Did I not get a notification or no finds this weekend?
@@theeddies Read again, lots of finds. No video yet. Too much editing, and I'm looking stuff up. The cleaning and research is brutal on finds (I'm not complaining, but it's brutal). I saw someone with those drivers like last year or something. I could have sworn it was Mustie, but maybe not. Maybe he showed them again a fe videos back? Or maybe I'm just tired. I like them though. I'm not a big fan of the old school impact drivers.
I just remembered something else I found, and it looks 100% never used. I don't know, but it looks like the trans from a riding mower. Like one of those hydrostatic things. Maybe not that kind, but something like that. I forget if I even filmed it. It's gotta be brand new. It's spotless. - EDIT!!! Okay, I might have exaggerated a little lol. It's a washing machine transmission. I never knew a washing machine had a transmission! I wonder what I could do with it?? I wonder if it's worth anything. Who would buy one and just say "Screw it!"? Damn thing costs $500!!
Trying to list other finds before I forget them: Card No 4 Tap wrench, Another push mower that is like new (I have like 10 lawn mowers now, it's no longer healthy!) A dress form thing?? A big bird cage, a hole saw, a counter sink bit, a little Norton stone, casters, a palm pilot which might be cool to play with....
Nice find. I have a neighbor that used to do appliance repair. I get shipping boxes from him. A few years ago he threw out 5 parts still new in boxes. Turns out it was some sort of high end dishwasher sealing gasket kit. They were like $250 a piece from the manufacturer, I sold them for $150 apiece. When I went to tell him and split the money, he said he got them free as part of a recall repair and to keep the cash. Easiest $750 I ever made.
Hi Greg, first of all, thank you very much for taking the time and effort to create these videos, very much appreciated and good to see that people on the other side of the pond are suffering too :-) I have had Tridents since 1974 and my current one I have since 1978 (T150V) Few small comments on your video. I can see that during this episode you are mixing up the OPRV (oil pressure release valve), with the anti drain valve. .(I'm sure you know the difference) also, those two metal oil lines that go from the case to the main bearings are redundant and omitted in later models. Triumph even gave the advice to their dealers to "crimp them shut" on existing bikes, when they had the cases open, because they caused more harm than good. Last but not least, I also make it always a good practice to use a piece of cardboard to stick all the bolts and screws in, in the same position as they came out of the engine. (I saw you used freezer bags :-)). However, for you that was not such an issue because obviously you were not going to rebuilt this engine. I also learned a few practical tips from your video (I liked the "checking out the magnetics of the rotor" tip and the "built in impact screwdrivers" ) and it's good to see that we all find our own solutions to the same problems. FYI I also built an electric starter on my Trident (see below video) Greetings from Amsterdam! th-cam.com/video/iytbG6QUz9Q/w-d-xo.html
Hello, Thanks for watching. Yes, I think there were a few parts that I mixed up the name, lol. I try to get it right but it is surprisingly difficult remembering everything when the camera is recording. I also do the cardboard trick when doing work on bikes. It is the best way to not mix up anything and speed reassembly. But you are right, this one was not being rebuilt by me. Most of the motor found a new home in Australia where it is presently being rebuilt as a race engine. You probably saw it had a significant mechanical malfunction with some broken parts so it needed a full teardown. Luckily, none of the pieces damaged the crank or cylinders. I kept quite a bit as spares for my own bike. I was not aware that the metal drain lines were removed, though I do not remember them when I rebuilt my own 1974 Trident. Thanks again for watching and I see you have a couple of videos that I will be watching. Best!
@@theeddies You probably know this, but there is a Facebook page of the TR3OC (Trident Rocket 3 Owners Club) where (sometimes) valuable technical information is ventilated, as well as gay banter from geriatric retirees. I placed a link to your videos on there and from the reactions I can see it's highly appreciated. Some gentlemen however, worry a bit about your physical well being, carrying the engine like you did. In the Triumph manual it explicitly states that you should engage the help of a friend (not kidding :-))
@@leolui4039 LOL, I wondered where all the new views came from. Thanks for that! I do not have a Facebook account but I will see if I can check it out without one. In the meantime, I only moved the engine from one table to another very quickly for a somewhat dramatic intro to the video. I have a chain fall which is visible in some of the videos that I use to lift them to table height. I had not seen that in the manual but it makes perfect sense as it is just heavy and awkward enough to be dangerous.
Very much enjoyed your series. Another contributor asked about a trident rebuild, I have just watched ‘Triumph T160 Motor Assembly’ by Triumph Enthusiast. I know it’s a T160 but many of the stages are very similar to the T150. It is also very professionally done. You asked about a 4 cylinder version of the Trident. There was at least on Prototype produced around 1973/74 and this is currently on display in the National Motorcycle Museum in England. There are many photographs available online. I have a couple of questions for myself: you didn’t find the need to remove and replace the timing side main bearing, so you didn’t remove the crankshaft timing pinion. If you had needed to, is there a special tool for this, or will an ordinary puller work? Also, how is the impact screwdriver marketed, I have been unable to find them online? I have a Triumph twin, so I will have to watch your series on this engine. Keep up the good work.
Hello, thanks for the kind words. I enjoyed making these videos. I have since seen more on the 4 cylinder including a guy who built a running version. He got some pretty good performance but weight and width were serious drawbacks it seems. There is a special tool (part# 61-6019) They can still be bought. They are pretty necessary to pull them while still in the case though I am sure a regular small 3 jaw could be modified to work for much less cost but that would be trial and error and potentially hard on the teeth. There is a little more room for a regular puller if the crank is separated or can be pressed off with the right combination of thin steel backing and a deep press. There is a link to the impact drivers in the description of this video. Thanks again!
Rick from New Zealand. Although I've been a motorcycle fanatic since my early teens, and even worked in motorcycle shop for 15 years; after leaving school, I've never ever owned a Brit bike. I hops I can find a do-upper Trident one of these days, to work on, restore and ride into my up-coming retirement years. Thanks for your videos. I am now confident I could do one of these.
Cheers
Thanks,
If I can work on them anyone can. I have a friend in New Zealand who might be able to help you find a bike when you are ready. I just sent him most of a T160 and he seems pretty involved with the Brit bike scene there. All the best!
Eddie
Nice job, not a motorcycle guy, but work on most all my own equipment and lean toward Fab work and machining. Always ready to learn new things
I am the same way, one of my fav channels is a heavy equipment mechanic and I have never even been within 10 feet of most of the machines he works on. I just like the mechanics of them and occasionally will pick up a useful wrenching tip. Thanks for watching.
I always wanted to know more about the architecture of these motors. Now I do! Enjoyed watching. Thanks,
That is why I made them. I am glad you liked them. Thanks for the feedback and watching!
Thanks for this Video series . Have one of these and its good that I can see this engine stripped down before I attempt anything on it and use it as a guide. Like to see a rebuild though.
Greetings from Australia
Hello, thanks! I will be doing a few videos on my own Trident - carbs, valve adjustment and digging into the clutch but luckily no rebuild planned right now. This neglected engine has provided me with some good Spares should I ever need to do a rebuild. You never know though, i may come across another barn find, I am always looking. They are pretty rare around me though. All the best!
great set of vids. tks.
Thanks!
I like that when you order a tool like the puller, you instantly learn how to make a copy of it. I saw those drivers awhile ago... was it Mustie that had them, or AVE? Man... we found so much stuff today that it was crazy. We found a whole next garage sale of stuff! Nothing great mind you, but a ton of stuff. Video games, dvds, cds, baseball cards, stamp collections, post card collection, cross collection, art, a yard dump cart, some little tools (nothing to write home about), a guitar case, percussion instruments, garage heater, I don't even remember all of the stuff that filled the shed right back up. old sign, cool lights for filming, drum sticks, so much stuff that I didn't film, but the crazy one... a diamond ring! Something went down like an ugly divorce, and all the stuff was just pitched with zero F's given. -- I'm digging the drivers. I wonder how they'll hold up? Were they pricey? What a hunk of iron coming out of there with whole cam shaft! It's pretty hardcore looking.
Mustie had them a few videos ago, that is when I found them on Amazon finally. AvE will probably be cutting them up soon. I first saw them a year ago on a video from a guy in Australia. I ordered them then from some place in Australia and never got them, i got my money back though. When I get a lathe that threads I will never buy another screw in puller, of course this is the first one I have not had in quite awhile.
Did I not get a notification or no finds this weekend?
@@theeddies Read again, lots of finds. No video yet. Too much editing, and I'm looking stuff up. The cleaning and research is brutal on finds (I'm not complaining, but it's brutal). I saw someone with those drivers like last year or something. I could have sworn it was Mustie, but maybe not. Maybe he showed them again a fe videos back? Or maybe I'm just tired. I like them though. I'm not a big fan of the old school impact drivers.
I just remembered something else I found, and it looks 100% never used. I don't know, but it looks like the trans from a riding mower. Like one of those hydrostatic things. Maybe not that kind, but something like that. I forget if I even filmed it. It's gotta be brand new. It's spotless. - EDIT!!! Okay, I might have exaggerated a little lol. It's a washing machine transmission. I never knew a washing machine had a transmission! I wonder what I could do with it?? I wonder if it's worth anything. Who would buy one and just say "Screw it!"? Damn thing costs $500!!
Trying to list other finds before I forget them: Card No 4 Tap wrench, Another push mower that is like new (I have like 10 lawn mowers now, it's no longer healthy!) A dress form thing?? A big bird cage, a hole saw, a counter sink bit, a little Norton stone, casters, a palm pilot which might be cool to play with....
Nice find. I have a neighbor that used to do appliance repair. I get shipping boxes from him. A few years ago he threw out 5 parts still new in boxes. Turns out it was some sort of high end dishwasher sealing gasket kit. They were like $250 a piece from the manufacturer, I sold them for $150 apiece. When I went to tell him and split the money, he said he got them free as part of a recall repair and to keep the cash. Easiest $750 I ever made.
Hi Greg, first of all, thank you very much for taking the time and effort to create these videos, very much appreciated and good to see that people on the other side of the pond are suffering too :-) I have had Tridents since 1974 and my current one I have since 1978 (T150V) Few small comments on your video. I can see that during this episode you are mixing up the OPRV (oil pressure release valve), with the anti drain valve. .(I'm sure you know the difference) also, those two metal oil lines that go from the case to the main bearings are redundant and omitted in later models. Triumph even gave the advice to their dealers to "crimp them shut" on existing bikes, when they had the cases open, because they caused more harm than good. Last but not least, I also make it always a good practice to use a piece of cardboard to stick all the bolts and screws in, in the same position as they came out of the engine. (I saw you used freezer bags :-)). However, for you that was not such an issue because obviously you were not going to rebuilt this engine.
I also learned a few practical tips from your video (I liked the "checking out the magnetics of the rotor" tip and the "built in impact screwdrivers" ) and it's good to see that we all find our own solutions to the same problems.
FYI I also built an electric starter on my Trident (see below video) Greetings from Amsterdam!
th-cam.com/video/iytbG6QUz9Q/w-d-xo.html
Hello,
Thanks for watching. Yes, I think there were a few parts that I mixed up the name, lol. I try to get it right but it is surprisingly difficult remembering everything when the camera is recording. I also do the cardboard trick when doing work on bikes. It is the best way to not mix up anything and speed reassembly. But you are right, this one was not being rebuilt by me. Most of the motor found a new home in Australia where it is presently being rebuilt as a race engine. You probably saw it had a significant mechanical malfunction with some broken parts so it needed a full teardown. Luckily, none of the pieces damaged the crank or cylinders. I kept quite a bit as spares for my own bike.
I was not aware that the metal drain lines were removed, though I do not remember them when I rebuilt my own 1974 Trident.
Thanks again for watching and I see you have a couple of videos that I will be watching.
Best!
@@theeddies You probably know this, but there is a Facebook page of the TR3OC (Trident Rocket 3 Owners Club) where (sometimes) valuable technical information is ventilated, as well as gay banter from geriatric retirees. I placed a link to your videos on there and from the reactions I can see it's highly appreciated. Some gentlemen however, worry a bit about your physical well being, carrying the engine like you did. In the Triumph manual it explicitly states that you should engage the help of a friend (not kidding :-))
@@leolui4039 LOL, I wondered where all the new views came from. Thanks for that! I do not have a Facebook account but I will see if I can check it out without one. In the meantime, I only moved the engine from one table to another very quickly for a somewhat dramatic intro to the video. I have a chain fall which is visible in some of the videos that I use to lift them to table height. I had not seen that in the manual but it makes perfect sense as it is just heavy and awkward enough to be dangerous.
Good videothanks
Thanks for watching!
Triple motor looks EXPENSIVE and time consuming to rebuild 😵💫
Very much enjoyed your series. Another contributor asked about a trident rebuild, I have just watched ‘Triumph T160 Motor Assembly’ by Triumph Enthusiast. I know it’s a T160 but many of the stages are very similar to the T150. It is also very professionally done.
You asked about a 4 cylinder version of the Trident. There was at least on Prototype produced around 1973/74 and this is currently on display in the National Motorcycle Museum in England. There are many photographs available online.
I have a couple of questions for myself: you didn’t find the need to remove and replace the timing side main bearing, so you didn’t remove the crankshaft timing pinion. If you had needed to, is there a special tool for this, or will an ordinary puller work? Also, how is the impact screwdriver marketed, I have been unable to find them online?
I have a Triumph twin, so I will have to watch your series on this engine. Keep up the good work.
Hello, thanks for the kind words. I enjoyed making these videos. I have since seen more on the 4 cylinder including a guy who built a running version. He got some pretty good performance but weight and width were serious drawbacks it seems. There is a special tool (part# 61-6019) They can still be bought. They are pretty necessary to pull them while still in the case though I am sure a regular small 3 jaw could be modified to work for much less cost but that would be trial and error and potentially hard on the teeth. There is a little more room for a regular puller if the crank is separated or can be pressed off with the right combination of thin steel backing and a deep press.
There is a link to the impact drivers in the description of this video.
Thanks again!