I know chart positions are important to an artist but as a fan it really doesn't matter to me, I'm not gonna trash a song or album because it's low on the charts
you guys don't like the album?? i swear thats not what u said before...this fandom has a real problem with deciding something isn't good as soon as it doesnt chart as well. whats tiring in this fandom is negativity
Yeah I really like it but I don't listen to it as often as I've listened to their previous albums, (which might be because there's tons of music out rn), also it takes a couple of listens to a body of work to really figure out how you feel about it; hence why initial reactions are most times dramatic and over the top bc you're hearing it for the first time and not really diving into what it sounds like(good or bad). There are tons of their songs that haven't charted that the fandom loves. Also, the whole point of us talking was to tell people not to care about chart positions and just let them be happy being the artists they want to be. -L
The Incoming I actually agreed with you completely about letting them be artists without the constant anxiety about charting..if we get a hit, which i think we could with Lonely Night, then great, but everyone should chill about it. I understand your opinion on the album being more critical after the first time you hear it, but going from seeming to really like several of the songs to Josh whispering "i don't really like the album" does make it seem like his opinion is based on how well its done. And going on about how he wished this wasn't what they'd used self titled for just seems needlessly negative as there's nothing can do about it now.
Nah Camila has been promoting her album since before she released her promo singles in May. Most of 5H promo has been after their album release (aka now)
Idk This album is nowhere to be seen after release but i will say worth it took a few months to gain traction same with work from home, My thing is they used the wrong songs as singles first. Down flopped so bad and everyone was confused if angel was a single or not. He like that wasn't promoted enough if they really wanted that single to pop off they should have performed it at the vma's there strategy just isnt working atm.
oni6903 sledgehammer did better than down. Down was a terrible choice for a first single the chorus sounded to much like work from home and it was a instant turn off, Normani's verse was have assed and was half the length of Laurens first. The only reason that song got the little traction it did is because it was there first song without camila and people wanted to see how they would do. Yes down flopped hard it's great it got its rewards and everything and im happy for them but we all know fifth harmony has won awards before that statistically makes no sense.
Ending the video with LM..... hahahahaha love it. I as a fan dont like to compare solo artist with groups, its a different level of competition for both, so if I like those artists songs I will, sing, download it, buy, put on spotfy, whatever, they put they heart and soul in everything. Some obsessed aholes fans think only his favorites artists are deserve of things.
Everything y'all said is so true, my only wish as a Harmonizer is for the girls to someday get the respect they deserve artists, whether as a group or as individuals, and whether it's with fame or "underrated" fame.
All these fans who only here for charts annoy me tbh bc i'm here for them and y'all fight with other fandom everyday lol it's not the girls fault that their label hate them lol
Kyle Gender what I'm saying is that they're not getting the recognition they deserve. I don't think that they're the best girl group in the world But, they have come along way from where they have started from.
My perspective: as you stated, C is everywhere as Epic is boosting tf outta her which I mean fine whatever. I see SELF-TITLED being what it is because of the circumstances in which it was released. However, my issue with 5H has nothing to do with THEM at all, or even the fans OR the camilizers. My issue is with all the negativity 5H gets from other stars. Like why is it that NOBODY can say anything nice about them at all? Like even before the VMAs people were just draggin them for no reason. I try to show them so much support but they just can't escape that breakup or constant ridicule and it's just sad. Honestly, if this IS the end just give me my Khalid ft. Normani before you close the door.
I understand your opinion on the album, but what more do yall want? They gave us great vocals, harmonies, a cohesive album that showed off the talents of each of the girls. It was a statement album but it truly isn’t getting the recognition it deserves.
I love both Fifth Harmony and Camila but take the whole competition away from each fandom the reason why Camila is doing so well with her music is because it truly is from her heart these songs are an extension of herself when something is genuine and real people see it and it will more likely succeed. I'm sure there were many songs that the girls loved but did not end up on the album I'm not saying fifth harmony aren't real or genuine but they say that they've had more control this round and wrote half the album. When you look at that it's basically only 5 songs, their debut single "down" was a song that was given to them no matter how much they say they are in control they really are still "manufactured" in a way that not everything they're doing is entirely them. As sad as it is Not until they all go solo will we truly see all of them as individuals for who they are in their music.
ANNGGEE exactly i honestly hate when people think camila is just getting promo because shes there her music comes front the heart people love it of course shes gonna get promos either way super smart comment
Zendaya should've been That's My Girl Meghan Trainor should be Sledgehammer Tori Kelly should be Write On Me SZA should be Angel And Taylor Swift should be This is How We Roll
hey you guys disappoint me. when i saw your reaction to the album you seem to love almost every song and gave them a lot of praise. now that things isn't going so great for the album you don't seam to like it. i don't blame the girls or their label i blame us fans who didn't buy or stream the album. thats the difference in fifth harmony fans and camila fans regardless of what she sound like or her album her fans will support her. they will buy her album and stop anyone from putting the album on line so people can listen to it for free. after fifth harmony album was put on line for free a lot of people didn't buy it. real fans support they artist regardless of what other fandom is saying. i think this is the best fucking album fifth harmony has ever made and when they break up i will be so glad i got it. you guys are doing exactly what other fandom want you to do. so what if they promoting camila a lot, we knew when the girls album was coming out and their fans chose not to buy it stop blaming other people the fans are the ones who let the girls down.
I don't want to be like those "ride or die, "love only"" Camilizers because they support her so much that they will viciously tear other people down to support their fav. Not all of them are like that but a good majority them support her so much that they are blinded to everything else, and that's ridiculous. Like I said in a previous comment first reactions are normally over the top and dramatic because its the first time hearing new music and we haven't had time to fully digest whats going on. Josh and I are the last people to care about chart positions; we listen to the most obscure music. The point was that the girls wanted the album and the singles to go number 1 and be higher on the charts and that's not happening. I bought the album 3 times and I stream it every day at work so I'm taking the blame you're putting on those fans for not doing anything. Have you sat and thought about the reason people aren't buying or streaming the album? Why the vast general public hasn't grasped on to it? I think it's a combination of a shitty label, no money for promo, fans aren't streaming or buying the album and the fact that the music is not appealing to the mass market. We're all just tired. We need to stop fighting support the girls and just let them be the artists they want to be, whether they chart or not.
The Incoming what I mean about camile fans is that they don't let other fandom tear their girl down and will support her regardless of what anyone think. I listen to the album over and over and like it more every time I listen to it. These girls are starting over we all knew that when camile was in the group it was everything was about her the other girls was not given a chance to shine. I think for the first time they did and other fandom didn't expect that so they did everything to knock them down and this fandom let them. I'm not saying love everything they do but give them support and tear them down like other people do.
+Trissa Gilliard We support them regardless of what people think...? We bought the music we stream the music we have a channel DEDICATED to them. Josh says support the girls in every video....I don’t understand the rest of this comment but all we were saying in the video is that we’re tired. We support them 100% but we’re tired. -L
Did y'all literally just call the most decorated girl group of all time, flops? Call yourselves Harmonizers, review the album, say you love the album, and then turn your back on it once it starts falling in the charts? Ffs I understand it's your review, I'm not tryna say you can't have your opinion, I AM watching a video to see your reaction after all I'm just confused by your reaction this time around.... like I'm not even kidding, I WANT to understand it. I wanna know what caused this sudden shift of opinion.
You guys give me whip lash. Like you react to a song or album and love it and freak out and say it’s better than everything you’ve heard but then the next video you’ll shade it and not like it? I don’t get it. I think also 5H isn’t as successful is because we are all holding them to such a high unreachable standard that just won’t happen. Like you guys shade every performance for one vocal mess up like they’re human they will mess up. They mess up sounds more beautiful than any of ours so stop pointing them out
Dinahsmile_ I don't know why all the comments are people upset that they're telling their opinions and lowkey saying what other people are too scared to say👀 I'm guilty of the same thing. when something first comes out you're in the hype and majority of the time it's when there hasn't been any new music or material so of course you're gonna like whatever comes out because you love and support the artist, and you expect and want it to be good when only later you come to realize it's not as great as you thought it was. I've done this with tons of albums from people I stan not only just fifth harmony. and honestly with the singing I think y'all have such low standards for artists now. yeah everyone makes mistakes and artists are human, but performance after performance of shaky vocals and unpreparedness? it's tiring and there's only so much people can take
There are no radio hits on self titled...let's be real. There are definitely some good songs, but nothing that's going to shake the radio stations and bring a ton of new fans in. Their label and management has failed them terribly... This group is successful, but I honestly could've seen them getting as big as *NSYNC, Spice Girls, or BSB. I'm an older fan, so I remember how huge those groups were...why isn't 5H reaching older audiences in the way those groups were?!? I'm always a bit confused by how their popular and not quite at the level they should be at the same time...they have all the skills, looks, and talent to be HUGE! I stumbled upon them earlier this year after getting sucked into DWTS and wondering who that Normani girl was. It's crazy that they've been out for 5 years and I've never heard of them prior to this year...and I'm a huge music head!! I hope someone on their team gets it together and they have a huge hit song that reaches more than their current audience...
Completely agree with 13:30 cause I feel like this fandom only cares about charts and other stuff when the most important thing of fifth harmony is their music. Like who cares if it isn't doing well or whatever, just enjoy the music. Personally I love artist more when it's they work genuinely for the music and not to be just #1
y'all change like the wind it seems. one second you're bopping to the album... the next you're knocking it saying it isn't that great. I can't keep up! love you guys tho
*PLEASE* get zube to rant with you ab everything going on w/ 5H. Like drama within the fandom and epic putting a while bunch of money into C. I need it in my life.
Someday Ikr when I went to ask my sister if she wanted to go watch a movie with me she was watching Disney channel and I just see Camila . I like was wtf
FOR REAL. she’s *everywhere* on billboards, on magazines, on fucking disney channel, etc. and fifth harmony? dust. nothing. the only promo they’re doing so far is for He Like that in radio stations, which isn’t bad, but bitch there is more to promote than just a damn single. do what epic is doing and over promote everything.
i love fifth harmony what about you? They literally performed he like that on GMA, the late late show and got massive promo from vmas and Kelly and Ryan. Sponsorships come down to management not really label. Harmonizers just cant handle camila winninh
EXACTLY. They stepped up, but it was like one teeny tiny step forward and they were just too satisfied with that itty bitty leeway they were given. Like why were they so happy with being able to write HALF of the album instead the whole thing? Why are they satisfied with working with the same choreographer every single time? They improved a little but they have yet to find their sound and it's just 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 I support them, but they have yet to really BRING IT.
When did the girls say they ever wanted a #1? I remember them saying they didn't care. That they were proud of the work regardless. The #1 shit came from harmonizers. The fans are the ones in competition. The girls are grateful for whatever certification or chart position they get. but I've never heard them say those are their goals. The only goal I've heard them talk about is getting a grammy. This isn't a grammy worthy album but it's better than the other two. And they obviously want actual fans to buy. What's there to be tired about? If you like the music, listen to it. If you don't like the music, move on to something else. Why does this have to be complicated?
the problem is the damn label if they were with interscope or even capitol the bitches would be everywhere like camila and actually get intense promo girlll
They don't settle for it by choice or want. If you had to fight in a legal battle with your label to stay a group chances are that label isn't gonna give you the best it has to offer
I agree with what y’all said in the sense that 5H is the only musical act I have to defend. I stan some really popular artist but also underground ones, and even semi-popular with the same level of popularity as 5H but I don’t feel the need to defend or prove their worth (frankly I don’t have to cus no one comes for them on the same level as ppl come for 5H) I just feel like 5H has a lot of enemies. With label heads and fandoms. They have a lot of people wishing for their failure.
The fact that they think Camila is getting more promo than Fifth Harmony when they had VMAs, Jimmy Fallon, James Corden, Today Show, 4 music videos and Kelly and Ryan is ridiculous. If fans actually bought and streamed the album, it would be more successful. Sure the label is shit but at the end of the day the songs are not connecting with the mass audience. Camila is not the problem, she barely had any promo until now but was still consistently on the charts and has been successful. If the songs are not connecting why would the label invest? I hope for better but at this rate I unfortunately don't see it happening.
ShortyStreet Bloopers camila has a guess and sketchers and l’oreal campaign. she went to fallons more than once, billBOARD awards, today show today et cetera.. she has such a high budget and you see 5H’s music videos. I would be so happy if they even did another tour. so excuse me.. but I don’t really agree with you. (also 5H would already be history if ally hadn’t begged for a chance)
I respect your opinion and I understand as a fan it can be frustrating to see the music not get the recognition it deserves, and the fandom needs to stop fighting because I feel like that is distracting people from doing streaming parties and other fandom promo etc. I do not agree that Camila was getting more promo but we can agree to disagree. As of now they are finally promoting Havana, but 5H were getting a lot of promo from different TV shows. I think management kind of fucked them over. They should have let the singles settle for a while before randomly releasing different music videos for different songs that were not singles. I hope things improve but they seem done with their promo cycle so idk. Maybe the next album will see more success.
ShortyStreet Bloopers i agree 100% the management annoys me so much and the fandom is too busy fighting a war which is not worth fighting instead of streaming Camila’s and 5H’s music (what’s the fandom for lmao?) also i am v happy that this is the first discussion i could actually have w a person without them attacking me
A bit confused with the back and forth with the Fifth Harmony discussion at the end. Yes I agree their promotion isn't on par with what it used to be, but the way y'all seemed to just do a complete 180 on your thoughts concerning their self-titled album (which is still, without a doubt, their best one), was unexpected and rubbed me the wrong way. This may or may not be the last 5H album (which sucks for me because this was the era I decided to become a faithful fan). However, few female groups maintain their popularity for the span of their careers because the targeted audience (mostly teenaged girls and young women) are more likely to be loyal to their favorite boy groups and solo acts (One Direction, Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift, etc.), which is why Camilizers were so thrilled when Camila left. The fact that 5H even lasted five years is noteworthy, especially in an industry that hasn't seen several groups (male and female) promoting at the same time since the late 90s. 1D is on hiatus (most likely not making a comeback), and the groups with the most buzz right now in the States are Korean (BTS, EXO, BLACKPINK, etc). Also, that shot at PRETTYMUCH was unexpected and a bit much. Yes, they're Simon's new playthings, but with 1D most likely over, it wasn't too hard to figure out that Simon was eventually going to create a replacement. And at least PRETTYMUCH can dance. Not too many American boy groups nowadays can say the same. I think people can enjoy both Fifth Harmony and PRETTYMUCH without turning it into some bloodbath feud. But whatever. Thanks for the reaction.
I understand that we have to work too hard as a fandom to keep the group successfulin the slightest. but yeah this era is good in so many ways. I love the girls, the music, and their new friendship but yeah they are no doing so well right now and it is really sad
You guys are finally realising that Camila was not the problem. The problem is their shitty label and shitty management. And the fucking music industry that doesn't praise/like girl groups much
do you guys still like camila honestly? i just feel like she's a burdon now and i will always love all 5 and continue to support them but i loved your reactions to all 5 and i'm curious if you will continue because camila just did fallon and she has lots of new very cool interviews and performances and it would be cool to know if your just not gonna react to her anymore?
Iris ikr i subbed this channel cuz am ot5 af and its so sad to see that they no longer like her 😢😢 i still watch their videos because they are funny and its their channel so they can do what they want but its not the same :'(
sopranoshelley they don't just do fifth harmony ?? they do do other stuff, yeah the majority of it is but it ain't harming anyone asking.. I just miss the reactions but i would continue to watch if they didn't react to camila bc they are funny and i've watched their account grow and i'm happy for them... lmao
I love fifth harmony new and old music and if they don't make the charts i see they performance live. There more to come don't give up on fifth harmony 😏
It’s all about marketing and who ever is marketing this album doesn’t no wtf there doing the album has more of a R&B HipHop feel but I don’t hear any of the songs on those stations instead they’re being played on pop stations there fan songs aren’t very loyal quick to jump ship this album hasn’t been out long enough to be a flop a good artist can sell a album as long as 2 years if there fans get on there jobs and help promote it like other fans
@8:50 she was no doubt joking wth were y’all trippin on? ?. lol And there is no pre-fifth Harmony Camila cabello IS in fifth Harmony, was in fifth harmony and will be known as a top member in fifth harmony and there would’ve not been a fifth harmony without her included so. . . yeah.
Self Titled is honestly so good I still listen to it weeks after and I usually didn't do that for 7/27 or Reflection. Plus this is the first time I actually bought a digital and physical of their album because the content was good. Y'all let charts and promo taint your view on good music. If they don't care about chart positions weeks after why should I? I can name so many trash albums this year like Lorde, Kesha, Khalid, Kehlani, and Cashmere cat. I'll give credit where it's due and they deserve it especially for this album.
T Nxumalo of those albums kehlani had the worst. Khalid' s album was nowhere near trash. But kehlani had a horrible album on a 14 track album you only have 3 good songs that's bad
If all the songs come up for consideration for yays or nays I will flip!!! Kelly Clarkson should be Sledgehammer and Janelle Monae: Write on me not sure who could be. TIHWR or TMG 🤔🤔🤔
The reason i think people still dislike the girls is because even though they wrote this album it still feels lime that last one just with a different vibe? Like i enjoyed the last album. The lyrics on this one for most of the songs are formulated and i dont like it. Deliver, and angel are the only ones i liked because they really did feel different and i could hear them. The rest seem like some space filler that it was like we could do better but lets just put this album out. I mean Camilas isnt even out yet but shes taken more care and time to actually do something with it. I feel like the girls were allowed to take more part in the process but they still dont have creative control because this shit seemed rushed as hell so they could stay relevant after camila left.
Issa good album. But nothing i can dance with except maybe down. And i stream down a lot cause he like that is fucking boring. Who chose that instead of Angel as a single? Omg..
Yeah that's the difference between 5H and artists like Marian Hill and Solange, it's that those artists make music for the sake of creating music and art, whereas 5H's music is made with the intent of topping charts and that's just not working for them..
I can understand your point charting and all...but do you really think that just bcs selena gomez or many others who do chart are like really deserving..nope...none of the actual deserving artist get that kinda recognition bcs they lack money behind them...can you actually compare the selena voice with lauren or dinah or ally or even normani...their live performances are far better....fifth harmony self titled symbolized a lot for these four girls so i disagree with you guys in that....i believe it really was their best album and they reinvented their name "fifth harmony"...obviously camila left after doing two albums..but these girls have to do three more albums together which means these 4 girls are the real "fifth harmony",,which is y they did this..also ppl constantly making comments about changing their names and all so they made a statement actually....these four and us"harmonizers" are fifth harmony..bcs clearly we are more loyal then the former bandmate.
Now you don't like the album? So what it didn't chart! It was a great album, their best one. If your an actual fan of a group or an individual artist charting shouldn't matter to you how great the music is should and the music on the album was great. This was the first album they've done that felt like an album, those other albums made no sense basically trash no offense but come on let's be honest. It just seems like just because the album didn't chart you don't like it now? People have a lot to say about fifth harmony when they can't do what they do.
Another hilarious video from your guys, but I am bummed with the way you ended it predicting 1 more album and then a 5H break up because a minute earlier you wanted the fandom to stop comparing or expecting anything from the girls, let them be the artists that they are. Perhaps their record label is aiming for mass-success because like any business they want to maximize profit, I don't think that's the girls though. I do believe that the 4 of them are loyal to the group and attribute their success to date rightfully to it. Their music is meant to reciprocate all the love they get from their following and that is good enough for many of us. Of course I want them to be the best and on top but I wouldn't predict their demise because their album did not rank high on some chart.
Josh: I’m not gonna laugh
Josh: *laughs hysterically*
jehan kordei nice profile picture
I know chart positions are important to an artist but as a fan it really doesn't matter to me, I'm not gonna trash a song or album because it's low on the charts
Fifth harmony by Fifth Harmony to me personally is a great album. It has so many great songs on the album and I truly like it..
FOREVER BRENIDA we all do, but it’s not getting enough promo and I fucking hate that
I love when Laura goes off on Tori Kelly. But I agree. That talented ass bitch needs to finish this album so I can throw my money at it.
Tilsade Mersalle literally
Patition for Lonely Night to be a single.
It's so fucking obvious that this is gonna be there last album. I'm calling it now
Josh's canonically yellow "Little Mix: The Get Weird Tour" hat. I screamed.
you guys don't like the album?? i swear thats not what u said before...this fandom has a real problem with deciding something isn't good as soon as it doesnt chart as well. whats tiring in this fandom is negativity
Georgia laura actually likes it
Georgia truuuuuu
Yeah I really like it but I don't listen to it as often as I've listened to their previous albums, (which might be because there's tons of music out rn), also it takes a couple of listens to a body of work to really figure out how you feel about it; hence why initial reactions are most times dramatic and over the top bc you're hearing it for the first time and not really diving into what it sounds like(good or bad). There are tons of their songs that haven't charted that the fandom loves. Also, the whole point of us talking was to tell people not to care about chart positions and just let them be happy being the artists they want to be. -L
Georgia PREACH!
The Incoming I actually agreed with you completely about letting them be artists without the constant anxiety about charting..if we get a hit, which i think we could with Lonely Night, then great, but everyone should chill about it. I understand your opinion on the album being more critical after the first time you hear it, but going from seeming to really like several of the songs to Josh whispering "i don't really like the album" does make it seem like his opinion is based on how well its done. And going on about how he wished this wasn't what they'd used self titled for just seems needlessly negative as there's nothing can do about it now.
But Firth harmony has had more promo? I don’t understand.
Antonio that’s what I think and they really don’t do anything to promote their stuff
Nah Camila has been promoting her album since before she released her promo singles in May. Most of 5H promo has been after their album release (aka now)
Idk This album is nowhere to be seen after release but i will say worth it took a few months to gain traction same with work from home, My thing is they used the wrong songs as singles first. Down flopped so bad and everyone was confused if angel was a single or not. He like that wasn't promoted enough if they really wanted that single to pop off they should have performed it at the vma's there strategy just isnt working atm.
Truth. -L
oni6903 sledgehammer did better than down. Down was a terrible choice for a first single the chorus sounded to much like work from home and it was a instant turn off, Normani's verse was have assed and was half the length of Laurens first. The only reason that song got the little traction it did is because it was there first song without camila and people wanted to see how they would do. Yes down flopped hard it's great it got its rewards and everything and im happy for them but we all know fifth harmony has won awards before that statistically makes no sense.
Ending the video with LM..... hahahahaha love it.
I as a fan dont like to compare solo artist with groups, its a different level of competition for both, so if I like those artists songs I will, sing, download it, buy, put on spotfy, whatever, they put they heart and soul in everything. Some obsessed aholes fans think only his favorites artists are deserve of things.
ok I'm gonna need another hour long video with Zube talking about the state of 5H like you did when C left
Everything y'all said is so true, my only wish as a Harmonizer is for the girls to someday get the respect they deserve artists, whether as a group or as individuals, and whether it's with fame or "underrated" fame.
All these fans who only here for charts annoy me tbh bc i'm here for them and y'all fight with other fandom everyday lol it's not the girls fault that their label hate them lol
Jack Barrack exactly, it's annoying when people care about chart positions like that equals to a good album
Jack Barrack their label is better than Little Mix label. No hate I love both groups.
Kyle Gender what I'm saying is that they're not getting the recognition they deserve. I don't think that they're the best girl group in the world But, they have come along way from where they have started from.
My perspective: as you stated, C is everywhere as Epic is boosting tf outta her which I mean fine whatever. I see SELF-TITLED being what it is because of the circumstances in which it was released. However, my issue with 5H has nothing to do with THEM at all, or even the fans OR the camilizers. My issue is with all the negativity 5H gets from other stars. Like why is it that NOBODY can say anything nice about them at all? Like even before the VMAs people were just draggin them for no reason. I try to show them so much support but they just can't escape that breakup or constant ridicule and it's just sad. Honestly, if this IS the end just give me my Khalid ft. Normani before you close the door.
Jordan Pope I need that collab to happen NOW
Nyla Wilson SAME!
Jordan Pope You must be kidding me!? Epic has promoted 5H lots but the GP and many harmonizers aren't streaming or here for them.
Jordan Pope omg KHALID AND MANI NEEEEEEEEEEED
All Isvanity that’s so true. they dont get the support they deserve
We need more rants! For some reason I love you guys just sitting there and talking about 5h-related stuff Idk why 😂
Love your hat Josh! Also Laura slayed the "my hair" part!
I see where yall are coming from. I streamed the album nonstop when it came out but I haven't listened to it for two weeks now.
Yesss I waited this video tf! Yass dinah queen.
YAAAS LITERALLY WAITed THIS VIDEO
You guys are haters but not haters at the same time, I really feel you guys, I sign under all you just said!
I understand your opinion on the album, but what more do yall want? They gave us great vocals, harmonies, a cohesive album that showed off the talents of each of the girls. It was a statement album but it truly isn’t getting the recognition it deserves.
This made me sad. 😢
I love both Fifth Harmony and Camila but take the whole competition away from each fandom the reason why Camila is doing so well with her music is because it truly is from her heart these songs are an extension of herself when something is genuine and real people see it and it will more likely succeed. I'm sure there were many songs that the girls loved but did not end up on the album I'm not saying fifth harmony aren't real or genuine but they say that they've had more control this round and wrote half the album. When you look at that it's basically only 5 songs, their debut single "down" was a song that was given to them no matter how much they say they are in control they really are still "manufactured" in a way that not everything they're doing is entirely them. As sad as it is Not until they all go solo will we truly see all of them as individuals for who they are in their music.
ANNGGEE exactly i honestly hate when people think camila is just getting promo because shes there her music comes front the heart people love it of course shes gonna get promos either way super smart comment
Lol Camila's solo career couldn't have been a more manufactured set up. And she has tons of songwriters and producers on her album.
Notifications came throughhh
Zendaya should've been That's My Girl
Meghan Trainor should be Sledgehammer
Tori Kelly should be Write On Me
SZA should be Angel
And Taylor Swift should be This is How We Roll
Kevin Michael I dont think TMG fits zendaya
This is we roll is my favourite of reflection so far
tihwr is my jam
Tinashe should be That's My Girl!
memadog True
Im watching this in school lol 😂
Nimco Ali same
hey you guys disappoint me. when i saw your reaction to the album you seem to love almost every song and gave them a lot of praise. now that things isn't going so great for the album you don't seam to like it. i don't blame the girls or their label i blame us fans who didn't buy or stream the album. thats the difference in fifth harmony fans and camila fans regardless of what she sound like or her album her fans will support her. they will buy her album and stop anyone from putting the album on line so people can listen to it for free. after fifth harmony album was put on line for free a lot of people didn't buy it. real fans support they artist regardless of what other fandom is saying. i think this is the best fucking album fifth harmony has ever made and when they break up i will be so glad i got it. you guys are doing exactly what other fandom want you to do. so what if they promoting camila a lot, we knew when the girls album was coming out and their fans chose not to buy it stop blaming other people the fans are the ones who let the girls down.
agree..they always change opinions like this, especially josh.
I don't want to be like those "ride or die, "love only"" Camilizers because they support her so much that they will viciously tear other people down to support their fav. Not all of them are like that but a good majority them support her so much that they are blinded to everything else, and that's ridiculous. Like I said in a previous comment first reactions are normally over the top and dramatic because its the first time hearing new music and we haven't had time to fully digest whats going on. Josh and I are the last people to care about chart positions; we listen to the most obscure music. The point was that the girls wanted the album and the singles to go number 1 and be higher on the charts and that's not happening. I bought the album 3 times and I stream it every day at work so I'm taking the blame you're putting on those fans for not doing anything. Have you sat and thought about the reason people aren't buying or streaming the album? Why the vast general public hasn't grasped on to it? I think it's a combination of a shitty label, no money for promo, fans aren't streaming or buying the album and the fact that the music is not appealing to the mass market. We're all just tired. We need to stop fighting support the girls and just let them be the artists they want to be, whether they chart or not.
The Incoming same here i feel like camilizers only say love only but tbh not all of them mean it
The Incoming what I mean about camile fans is that they don't let other fandom tear their girl down and will support her regardless of what anyone think. I listen to the album over and over and like it more every time I listen to it. These girls are starting over we all knew that when camile was in the group it was everything was about her the other girls was not given a chance to shine. I think for the first time they did and other fandom didn't expect that so they did everything to knock them down and this fandom let them. I'm not saying love everything they do but give them support and tear them down like other people do.
+Trissa Gilliard We support them regardless of what people think...? We bought the music we stream the music we have a channel DEDICATED to them. Josh says support the girls in every video....I don’t understand the rest of this comment but all we were saying in the video is that we’re tired. We support them 100% but we’re tired. -L
Did y'all literally just call the most decorated girl group of all time, flops? Call yourselves Harmonizers, review the album, say you love the album, and then turn your back on it once it starts falling in the charts? Ffs
I understand it's your review, I'm not tryna say you can't have your opinion, I AM watching a video to see your reaction after all
I'm just confused by your reaction this time around.... like I'm not even kidding, I WANT to understand it. I wanna know what caused this sudden shift of opinion.
SilverSoul they always change the opinion. Next time i wouldnt be so shocked this channel will become mixers channel. Lmao😜
Most decorated? 😑😑😑😑😶
8:32 - 8:36: exact impression of me whenever i’m watching ot5 videos and someone looks at me like josh
josh's face at 9:40 had me weakkk
Never clicked so fast 😭😭
You guys give me whip lash. Like you react to a song or album and love it and freak out and say it’s better than everything you’ve heard but then the next video you’ll shade it and not like it? I don’t get it. I think also 5H isn’t as successful is because we are all holding them to such a high unreachable standard that just won’t happen. Like you guys shade every performance for one vocal mess up like they’re human they will mess up. They mess up sounds more beautiful than any of ours so stop pointing them out
Dinahsmile_ I don't know why all the comments are people upset that they're telling their opinions and lowkey saying what other people are too scared to say👀 I'm guilty of the same thing. when something first comes out you're in the hype and majority of the time it's when there hasn't been any new music or material so of course you're gonna like whatever comes out because you love and support the artist, and you expect and want it to be good when only later you come to realize it's not as great as you thought it was. I've done this with tons of albums from people I stan not only just fifth harmony. and honestly with the singing I think y'all have such low standards for artists now. yeah everyone makes mistakes and artists are human, but performance after performance of shaky vocals and unpreparedness? it's tiring and there's only so much people can take
Where is the full version of the HITS PANEL LAURA AND JOSH.
There are no radio hits on self titled...let's be real. There are definitely some good songs, but nothing that's going to shake the radio stations and bring a ton of new fans in. Their label and management has failed them terribly...
This group is successful, but I honestly could've seen them getting as big as *NSYNC, Spice Girls, or BSB. I'm an older fan, so I remember how huge those groups were...why isn't 5H reaching older audiences in the way those groups were?!? I'm always a bit confused by how their popular and not quite at the level they should be at the same time...they have all the skills, looks, and talent to be HUGE! I stumbled upon them earlier this year after getting sucked into DWTS and wondering who that Normani girl was. It's crazy that they've been out for 5 years and I've never heard of them prior to this year...and I'm a huge music head!!
I hope someone on their team gets it together and they have a huge hit song that reaches more than their current audience...
What's the song at the start called....?
I've been waiting
It's going to end.. What if this is da last album 😢😢😢
I love you guyyysssss reallyyyyyy
Your rating is so accurate, and so frustrating because it’s true. That’s fucked up
I have watched this video a hundred times and I never noticed Josh get weird tour hat
Completely agree with 13:30 cause I feel like this fandom only cares about charts and other stuff when the most important thing of fifth harmony is their music. Like who cares if it isn't doing well or whatever, just enjoy the music. Personally I love artist more when it's they work genuinely for the music and not to be just #1
y'all change like the wind it seems. one second you're bopping to the album... the next you're knocking it saying it isn't that great. I can't keep up! love you guys tho
*PLEASE* get zube to rant with you ab everything going on w/ 5H. Like drama within the fandom and epic putting a while bunch of money into C. I need it in my life.
I blame management with how messy this is going 🙄 but I love the girls
the amount of promo and push Camila getting is actually ridiculous, she's on *everything*
Someday Ikr when I went to ask my sister if she wanted to go watch a movie with me she was watching Disney channel and I just see Camila . I like was wtf
disney nbt lol
What is Camila getting that 5H didn’t get already this era ?
FOR REAL. she’s *everywhere* on billboards, on magazines, on fucking disney channel, etc. and fifth harmony? dust. nothing. the only promo they’re doing so far is for He Like that in radio stations, which isn’t bad, but bitch there is more to promote than just a damn single. do what epic is doing and over promote everything.
i love fifth harmony what about you? They literally performed he like that on GMA, the late late show and got massive promo from vmas and Kelly and Ryan. Sponsorships come down to management not really label. Harmonizers just cant handle camila winninh
That was some real talk at the end there
Me: Say lil bitch you can't fuck with me if you wanted to *clicks on video*
video: *plays Bodak Yellow*
Laura: in honor of Bodak Yellow being no. 1
EXACTLY. They stepped up, but it was like one teeny tiny step forward and they were just too satisfied with that itty bitty leeway they were given. Like why were they so happy with being able to write HALF of the album instead the whole thing? Why are they satisfied with working with the same choreographer every single time? They improved a little but they have yet to find their sound and it's just 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 I support them, but they have yet to really BRING IT.
When did the girls say they ever wanted a #1?
I remember them saying they didn't care. That they were proud of the work regardless.
The #1 shit came from harmonizers. The fans are the ones in competition.
The girls are grateful for whatever certification or chart position they get. but I've never heard them say those are their goals. The only goal I've heard them talk about is getting a grammy. This isn't a grammy worthy album but it's better than the other two. And they obviously want actual fans to buy.
What's there to be tired about? If you like the music, listen to it. If you don't like the music, move on to something else. Why does this have to be complicated?
someone gave me the receipt. The A&R guy said it and Lauren cosigned. no one is being realistic.
Yall should also react to Lauryn & China's videos. You guys would like them
Haha the best part ever when Josh said "SIRI CAN I CALL YOU BITCH" hahahaha and when siri said no hahaha
what is the name of the song at the start
React to demis album
Boneless pizza ?
I think the problem is the group keeps settling for mediocrity
Chaotic Girl111 thank you!!! They gotta stop being complacent
You're not wrong. -L
the problem is the damn label if they were with interscope or even capitol the bitches would be everywhere like camila and actually get intense promo girlll
Preach🙌🏼🙌🏼
They don't settle for it by choice or want. If you had to fight in a legal battle with your label to stay a group chances are that label isn't gonna give you the best it has to offer
I agree with what y’all said in the sense that 5H is the only musical act I have to defend. I stan some really popular artist but also underground ones, and even semi-popular with the same level of popularity as 5H but I don’t feel the need to defend or prove their worth (frankly I don’t have to cus no one comes for them on the same level as ppl come for 5H) I just feel like 5H has a lot of enemies. With label heads and fandoms. They have a lot of people wishing for their failure.
ya'll should react to Norminah Legendado
Every time Laura goes off on Tori Kelly I crack up cuz like same
The fact that they think Camila is getting more promo than Fifth Harmony when they had VMAs, Jimmy Fallon, James Corden, Today Show, 4 music videos and Kelly and Ryan is ridiculous. If fans actually bought and streamed the album, it would be more successful. Sure the label is shit but at the end of the day the songs are not connecting with the mass audience. Camila is not the problem, she barely had any promo until now but was still consistently on the charts and has been successful. If the songs are not connecting why would the label invest? I hope for better but at this rate I unfortunately don't see it happening.
Camila is getting more promo but we don't think she's the problem. Everyone agrees that the music isn't appealing to the masses. -L
ShortyStreet Bloopers camila has a guess and sketchers and l’oreal campaign. she went to fallons more than once, billBOARD awards, today show today et cetera.. she has such a high budget and you see 5H’s music videos. I would be so happy if they even did another tour.
so excuse me.. but I don’t really agree with you. (also 5H would already be history if ally hadn’t begged for a chance)
The Incoming i agree 100%
I respect your opinion and I understand as a fan it can be frustrating to see the music not get the recognition it deserves, and the fandom needs to stop fighting because I feel like that is distracting people from doing streaming parties and other fandom promo etc. I do not agree that Camila was getting more promo but we can agree to disagree. As of now they are finally promoting Havana, but 5H were getting a lot of promo from different TV shows. I think management kind of fucked them over. They should have let the singles settle for a while before randomly releasing different music videos for different songs that were not singles. I hope things improve but they seem done with their promo cycle so idk. Maybe the next album will see more success.
ShortyStreet Bloopers i agree 100% the management annoys me so much and the fandom is too busy fighting a war which is not worth fighting instead of streaming Camila’s and 5H’s music (what’s the fandom for lmao?)
also i am v happy that this is the first discussion i could actually have w a person without them attacking me
Please react to the Lauryn and China singing our childhood songs
@9:56 it was actually the x factor
Didn't fifth Harmony signed a record deal with Sony? Or is it just a false rumor?
What's the point of fighting if you lost the thing you're fighting for
Y'all were feeling Bodak yellow 😂 who you throwing shade at?
OMG WHEN YA'LL WERE DANCIN' TO TOUCH OMG.... XDDDD #FifthHarmonyandLittleMixstan
I swear, Josh only has shirts with random shit floating around on it
A bit confused with the back and forth with the Fifth Harmony discussion at the end. Yes I agree their promotion isn't on par with what it used to be, but the way y'all seemed to just do a complete 180 on your thoughts concerning their self-titled album (which is still, without a doubt, their best one), was unexpected and rubbed me the wrong way.
This may or may not be the last 5H album (which sucks for me because this was the era I decided to become a faithful fan). However, few female groups maintain their popularity for the span of their careers because the targeted audience (mostly teenaged girls and young women) are more likely to be loyal to their favorite boy groups and solo acts (One Direction, Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift, etc.), which is why Camilizers were so thrilled when Camila left. The fact that 5H even lasted five years is noteworthy, especially in an industry that hasn't seen several groups (male and female) promoting at the same time since the late 90s. 1D is on hiatus (most likely not making a comeback), and the groups with the most buzz right now in the States are Korean (BTS, EXO, BLACKPINK, etc).
Also, that shot at PRETTYMUCH was unexpected and a bit much. Yes, they're Simon's new playthings, but with 1D most likely over, it wasn't too hard to figure out that Simon was eventually going to create a replacement. And at least PRETTYMUCH can dance. Not too many American boy groups nowadays can say the same. I think people can enjoy both Fifth Harmony and PRETTYMUCH without turning it into some bloodbath feud. But whatever. Thanks for the reaction.
I understand that we have to work too hard as a fandom to keep the group successfulin the slightest. but yeah this era is good in so many ways. I love the girls, the music, and their new friendship but yeah they are no doing so well right now and it is really sad
So you don’t like the album I am confused. Then what was the album reaction about?!?!
You guys are finally realising that Camila was not the problem. The problem is their shitty label and shitty management. And the fucking music industry that doesn't praise/like girl groups much
Litterally watching this in class who needs reading that's what audio books are for
Get weird tour Salute I'm lowkey trigged 😂
I thought Josh left the incoming
it was clickbait 🙄
You're the best ♥♥
You could react to "Norminah: Gay moments"
Please react to Camila performing havana on the jimmy fallon show!!!!!
do you guys still like camila honestly? i just feel like she's a burdon now and i will always love all 5 and continue to support them but i loved your reactions to all 5 and i'm curious if you will continue because camila just did fallon and she has lots of new very cool interviews and performances and it would be cool to know if your just not gonna react to her anymore?
Iris ikr i subbed this channel cuz am ot5 af and its so sad to see that they no longer like her 😢😢 i still watch their videos because they are funny and its their channel so they can do what they want but its not the same :'(
Its a fifth harmony reaction channel. She's no longer in the group so its pointless to do reactions of her
sopranoshelley they don't just do fifth harmony ?? they do do other stuff, yeah the majority of it is but it ain't harming anyone asking.. I just miss the reactions but i would continue to watch
if they didn't react to camila bc they are funny and i've watched their account grow and i'm happy for them... lmao
Reacts Havana Today Show..please
I love fifth harmony new and old music and if they don't make the charts i see they performance live. There more to come don't give up on fifth harmony 😏
It’s all about marketing and who ever is marketing this album doesn’t no wtf there doing the album has more of a R&B HipHop feel but I don’t hear any of the songs on those stations instead they’re being played on pop stations there fan songs aren’t very loyal quick to jump ship this album hasn’t been out long enough to be a flop a good artist can sell a album as long as 2 years if there fans get on there jobs and help promote it like other fans
@8:50 she was no doubt joking wth were y’all trippin on? ?. lol
And there is no pre-fifth Harmony
Camila cabello IS in fifth Harmony,
was in fifth harmony and will be known as a top member in fifth harmony and there would’ve not been a fifth harmony without her included so. . . yeah.
So you guys don’t like the album? I thought it was there best album to date.
Wtf is Josh a mixer? 😂😂😂
yasss yusss We all can be both.
wtf why does it matter? 😂😂😂
Self Titled is honestly so good I still listen to it weeks after and I usually didn't do that for 7/27 or Reflection. Plus this is the first time I actually bought a digital and physical of their album because the content was good. Y'all let charts and promo taint your view on good music. If they don't care about chart positions weeks after why should I? I can name so many trash albums this year like Lorde, Kesha, Khalid, Kehlani, and Cashmere cat. I'll give credit where it's due and they deserve it especially for this album.
Jazlyn Rodriguez Khalid's album wasn't trash wtf
Adeolaaa it's his voice or accent which he sings in. The only song I like is the Young, Dumb, and Broke the rest just ain't good.
Finally someone else agrees kehlani album is not good
T Nxumalo of those albums kehlani had the worst. Khalid' s album was nowhere near trash. But kehlani had a horrible album on a 14 track album you only have 3 good songs that's bad
jhene is not coming to texas with lana 😭 jhene is only going to 5 shows
they talking about prettymuch? or whoever they are. lol
React to Norminah Gay Moments 🙏
If all the songs come up for consideration for yays or nays I will flip!!! Kelly Clarkson should be Sledgehammer and Janelle Monae: Write on me not sure who could be. TIHWR or TMG 🤔🤔🤔
BITCH INTROS LIT AF!!
The reason i think people still dislike the girls is because even though they wrote this album it still feels lime that last one just with a different vibe? Like i enjoyed the last album. The lyrics on this one for most of the songs are formulated and i dont like it. Deliver, and angel are the only ones i liked because they really did feel different and i could hear them. The rest seem like some space filler that it was like we could do better but lets just put this album out. I mean Camilas isnt even out yet but shes taken more care and time to actually do something with it. I feel like the girls were allowed to take more part in the process but they still dont have creative control because this shit seemed rushed as hell so they could stay relevant after camila left.
React to Demi Lovato's album Tell Me You Love Me
Issa good album. But nothing i can dance with except maybe down. And i stream down a lot cause he like that is fucking boring. Who chose that instead of Angel as a single? Omg..
Please React ti Fifth Harmony's XFactor Journey!
P.s it's 50 mins long.
Thankss! I'll wair for it!
Yeah that's the difference between 5H and artists like Marian Hill and Solange, it's that those artists make music for the sake of creating music and art, whereas 5H's music is made with the intent of topping charts and that's just not working for them..
HOLY FUCK REACT TO KEHLANI HONEY PLS I KNOW U REACT ONLY 2 5H BUT U MDE A REACTION BOUT SS&S SO I THOUGH U MAY DO IT PLS IS SO GOOD HOLY FUCK
I just feel like it wasn't promoted like 7/27
I can understand your point charting and all...but do you really think that just bcs selena gomez or many others who do chart are like really deserving..nope...none of the actual deserving artist get that kinda recognition bcs they lack money behind them...can you actually compare the selena voice with lauren or dinah or ally or even normani...their live performances are far better....fifth harmony self titled symbolized a lot for these four girls so i disagree with you guys in that....i believe it really was their best album and they reinvented their name "fifth harmony"...obviously camila left after doing two albums..but these girls have to do three more albums together which means these 4 girls are the real "fifth harmony",,which is y they did this..also ppl constantly making comments about changing their names and all so they made a statement actually....these four and us"harmonizers" are fifth harmony..bcs clearly we are more loyal then the former bandmate.
Epic literally has Camila as there bio promoting Havana when they have all these other artist that need promo epic is so messy
Now you don't like the album? So what it didn't chart! It was a great album, their best one. If your an actual fan of a group or an individual artist charting shouldn't matter to you how great the music is should and the music on the album was great. This was the first album they've done that felt like an album, those other albums made no sense basically trash no offense but come on let's be honest. It just seems like just because the album didn't chart you don't like it now? People have a lot to say about fifth harmony when they can't do what they do.
Another hilarious video from your guys, but I am bummed with the way you ended it predicting 1 more album and then a 5H break up because a minute earlier you wanted the fandom to stop comparing or expecting anything from the girls, let them be the artists that they are. Perhaps their record label is aiming for mass-success because like any business they want to maximize profit, I don't think that's the girls though. I do believe that the 4 of them are loyal to the group and attribute their success to date rightfully to it. Their music is meant to reciprocate all the love they get from their following and that is good enough for many of us. Of course I want them to be the best and on top but I wouldn't predict their demise because their album did not rank high on some chart.