Zuma's lawyers seek leave to appeal Judge Chili's decision on Advocate Billy Downer

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  • Former President Jacob Zuma's lawyers seek leave to appeal a decision to not recuse Advocate Billy Downer from arms deal matter.
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  • @AntonyMmushi-u6i
    @AntonyMmushi-u6i 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This is the delaying tactics! Nothing much🙌

    • @MondeRaseobi-s4v
      @MondeRaseobi-s4v 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nje

    • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
      @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us วันที่ผ่านมา

      AntonyMmushi-u6i....2025 is already gone by 2026'this application will be still being dealt with ....so as 2027 ....then 2028 a brand new application will be thrown and that brand new one will last till 20231, and even that one will not be the last....they (applications and Appeals) will come one after the other ....this strategy is working perfectly and NPA is obliged to follow the line of the defense no matter how spurious the application/appeal can be it can take up to 03 yrs and when that ends a"Brand New Shining application" from the box comes...in and NPA must draw papers and oppose it.... SESITHEMBELE KININA MADODA....9/2/2025

  • @sandrabrandt4632
    @sandrabrandt4632 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Zuma get a life pls leave Billy aline

  • @hardrockenterprise2
    @hardrockenterprise2 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Dali is fighting evil... I see a light at the end of the tunnel. Nothing stays the same.

    • @velimasuku8808
      @velimasuku8808 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who's the evil?

    • @hardrockenterprise2
      @hardrockenterprise2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @velimasuku8808 exactly the guys that are selfish.

  • @sechenegololo531
    @sechenegololo531 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Mr Mpofu is making important points, but the powers that are being with sway the judgement against him

  • @Mistyb118
    @Mistyb118 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Zuma must leave

  • @KevinDavis-op3qp
    @KevinDavis-op3qp 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Dali poopol mphofo Makes a clown of himself every other day shame on them

    • @macmandla3582
      @macmandla3582 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tsek

    • @MfundisiMotaung-d4n
      @MfundisiMotaung-d4n 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Could you listen to what he says, check the research he presents from previous cases by the same coutrs. I find your argument hollow and quite shallow.

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There will be another argument based on the same facts in another court. Drum it Zidwe (Adv Masuku SC ) and Mpofu SC drum it guys until it bends....you are not wrong guys carry on even if you repeat same argument 10 times....you are on the right track....6/7/2025

  • @sburger1146
    @sburger1146 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Our NPA is failing us😢🇿🇦

    • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
      @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      sburger1146....NPA is not failing us by design or lack of diligence or care....the main challenge that they can not overcome is the appeal and appeal and appeal and application and application and application plus leave to appeal and leave to appeal....they can't go around that.....these appeals come from 2018 April....7 yrs is gone now....and other "Brand New Shining applications" are still to come....So there is nothing better that NPA can do other than to allow itself to be dragged left right and centre by its nose...11/2/2025

  • @charliepepper3039
    @charliepepper3039 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    He must go to meet his maker. The country will be 100% better off.

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If this goes to appeal it will be heard around August or September 2025 and ruling be returned March 2026 and leave to Appeal to the Con Court and by Oct 2026 Ccn Court postpones it to March 2027 and is heard July 2027 and decision comes January 2028 and by April 2028 a "BRAND NEW SHINING"! application is brought...till 2031....NPA guys just give up...8/2/2025

  • @MethodistChurch-ef6vk
    @MethodistChurch-ef6vk วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zuma said" I want to have my day in court" I was the only person in my entire family who supported him. But Zuma mis used my support and many others. To this day he is applying any trick in the book to come clean. The guy is guilty as charged

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Adv D Mpofu SC and Masuku SC guys don't despair carry on waya waya we kno the points you are coming up with them were dismissed by Koen J in toto but this is another Judge it may take a different view so throw everything to him he may be swayed.....in your favor....or this Judge will one day be recused or recuse himself, then when the next Judge (3rd one) comes revive all the points dismissed by Koen polish them "anew" and throw them and NPA has a duty to respond, and it doesn't matter as to how many times should they respond just carry on guys as many times as you can coz the whole process yields the desired result to "Exhaust and frustrate" the NPA to a point of giving up.... exactly what we want .. ....."SESITHEMBELE KININA MADODA" ...niqine (be strong) you are developing the jurisprudence...the one of TIRING the NPA is "BRAND NEW...8/2/2025....

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us วันที่ผ่านมา

    Blame them (NPA) they are doing Stalingrad you are correct Adv D Mpofu SC, the state is responsible for all the delays...10/2/2025

  • @StephenGoliath
    @StephenGoliath 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Jacob Zuma is wasting the courts time,,

    • @DennisGowaseb-yj1xz
      @DennisGowaseb-yj1xz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think the court is wasting Zuma time ,I wanna know what South Africans want to gain from prosecuting an 83 year old 🤔

    • @moeketsitsholo7573
      @moeketsitsholo7573 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@DennisGowaseb-yj1xz, Then what is he gaining from insisting on private prosecution a sitting President, Prosecutor and a journo? He's right, this is HOPELESS case and costs should be set on him.

    • @DennisGowaseb-yj1xz
      @DennisGowaseb-yj1xz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@moeketsitsholo7573 Cyril is the one putting Zuma on trial, he can make a political decision and scrap the arms deal because it's even irrelevant now

    • @mphorakabe8463
      @mphorakabe8463 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@DennisGowaseb-yj1xzirrelevant to who?to Us it's still very relevant.

    • @ronnymashaba1189
      @ronnymashaba1189 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cyril is headed exactly for this too

  • @millionairesmile1430
    @millionairesmile1430 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zuma has always said that he wanted his day in court to clear his name. So, what happened? Anyway, we all know what it is.

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zwide (Masuku SC) is correct when he said Mpofu was eloquent in in address to court....but eloquent as he is the courts like to throw his submissions out of the window.....but not this time....he will win HANDS DOWN unless the judge is personal....8/2/2025

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The application for stay of prosecution is warming up along the lines ready to take the field, it has come alive and NPA will be obliged to answer to it and it may take 03 years to finish...it doesn't matter that it (application for permanent stay of prosecution)'had been argued and flogged to death....with Zwide kaLanga (Adv T Masuku SC) and Adv D Mpofu SC we will see it resuscitated and fresh and up and running and NPA comes along an play...11/2/2025

  • @moeketsitsholo7573
    @moeketsitsholo7573 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hahaha... Nice to hear that the founding fathers and mothers of the Constitution are insulted by accused Mr Downer. Technically this would mean that Brytenbach via Downer is insulting Ramaphosa who happened to be one of founding fathers of our Constitution. 😂

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    20 years delay was caused by NPA... Zuma is completely innocent he delayed nothing here.....there is no Stalingrad here if it is there it comes from the state ..NPA....8/2/2025

  • @charlesnyatsanza6845
    @charlesnyatsanza6845 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Is Mphofu a genuine lawyer. He stammers and waffles alot 😊

    • @MondeRaseobi-s4v
      @MondeRaseobi-s4v 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He is not he study law at technical old school during apartheid

    • @malusimkhize9642
      @malusimkhize9642 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro listen to what he says not how he says it. Being a lawyer means, you are able to argue and make your points clear and coherent.

    • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
      @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      malusimkhize642....Khabazele to you at least is he (adv Mpofu SC) making sense when he argues....8/2/2025

  • @JonathanMokaba
    @JonathanMokaba 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zuma must take a gamble and forget about appealing and see if the state can proof their case the case of nearly 25 years.i doubt if they can

    • @gezim6831
      @gezim6831 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don’t you think he would have done exactly that 25 years ago?

    • @JonathanMokaba
      @JonathanMokaba 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @gezim6831 he would unless if his thinking or he knows there was corruption that he committed,and the state has enough evidence to convict him.

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us วันที่ผ่านมา

    We are going to 2031 with only Appeals, Leave to Appeal, Appeal.... Applications, application and another application and fresh application back to leave to appeal and appeal until NPA give up.... SESITHEMBELE KININA MADODA.....You are on the right track Zwide kaLanga (Adv T Masuku SC) and Adv D Mpofu SC......niyibamb'apho....this is the best strategy...no one other than you can master it....10/2/2025

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Argue Zwide kaLanga argue carry on Zwide kaLanga you kno deep in your heart that they will throw your argument out but carry on Zwide don't give up....deep in your heart you know the outcome but carry on Zwide even if you can feel that your argument doesn't make sense even to you...but that is not a ground to throw the towel....Zwiiiideee kaLaaaangaaa ....6/2/2025

  • @mbhikhoza6652
    @mbhikhoza6652 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lizo qulwa kanjani lelicala sekukhona abashona aningisize konolwazi

  • @mosamaseko6726
    @mosamaseko6726 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Useless

  • @cartoonfan__2006
    @cartoonfan__2006 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Zuma must donate the millions he spends on useless court challenges to needy people ,has he paid his vbs loan

    • @gezim6831
      @gezim6831 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mkp parliamentary seats will come handy.

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And plz Zwide kaLanga (Adv T Masuku SC) and Mpofu SC plz plz guys dont be deterred if this application fails as i suspet it will be the case, there is PLAN which is to resuscitate 106 Application and NPA has a duty to litigate and oppose it and it may take 02 full yrs or more to complete more especially to a judge that did not hear 106 coz this judge is Chili and he must entertain that 106 application and allowed it to be argued till cows come home ....this angle is open to you guys.... SESITHEMBELE KININA MADODA...re'litigate and do it time and again NPA must dance to your tune waya waya ....9/2/2025

  • @siphiwenhlapo835
    @siphiwenhlapo835 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why it seems Zuma is scared of Dawner? If he did nothing let the trial begin and proof the state wrong...simple😮

    • @gezim6831
      @gezim6831 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly what is needed. Not this, at least South Africans are learning how to avoid trial by all means possible.

  • @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us
    @ThembaMayekiso-vk7us 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This application starts on 7 Feb 2025 ...the final decision on in will be around October 2026 or Jan 2027....Hay Hay Hay lets clap hands guys these successive application are killing time effectively each application takes 02 years or more to conclude then a new one comes immediately that 02 yrs or 03 lapses and the NPA is being dragged by its 👃 nose to follow and they don't have option....Viva Stalingrad Viva!!!!!! 6/2/2025

  • @moeketsitsholo7573
    @moeketsitsholo7573 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "... When the right is deprived, then the right is deprived..." The Advovo dropping bars now.🫣