Will A $50 Sub-Zero Sleeping Bag Keep You Alive?
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- Will A $50 Sub-Zero Sleeping Bag Keep You Alive?
The Browning Endeavor sleeping bag is rated for -20° but it only costs $50 so, will it actually help you survive sub-zero temperatures? Let's find out...
If you live in a cold environment, it's important to be able to withstand a power outage or even a vehicle breakdown when there is suddenly no access to heat. And although having alternate heat sources are an important part of preparedness, depending on the emergency, you might not be able to have a wood burning stove or propane heating unit. However, for $50, you could have at the very least, a sleeping bag that is rated for negative temperatures. But would it actually do the job? In the video, I used an infrared thermometer to try and demonstrate the temperature change from inside of the bag and on the outside surface. And I only spent an hour outside as it was very cold and I was not using any shelter which you would obviously be using in conjunction with the bag. Either way, this was a non-scientific test to give you some insight regarding what a $50 -20° sleeping bag can do.
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Consider leaving your mouth and nostrils exposed in cold weather. It’s tempting to cover your face entirely, but you might wake to a cold and wet bag from the moisture of your breath, and drying a bag in cold weather may not be easy, depending on the situation. Bag temperature ratings vary wildly. Some are more official than others, and some companies outright lie. Survival rating is not the same as comfort rating. Thanks for doing this, Magic! 😊
Get out one of those spare N95 masks, no sweating in the bag.
I cant stand having my face covered so that's not an issue for me
Yep always had to have my face uncovered in a sleeping bag, atleast a small opening helped…
I sleep every night in a unheated tiny house down to about 20 degrees, and about three times a night I must dry my mustache off from condensation.
Haven't figured out a real good solution for that aspect.
@@destinywilliams801 until it gets COLD 🥶 ! ! !
Watching this I imagined a neighbor couple looking at your deck through a telescope lol. Honey, I'm telling you he's been laying on the deck for almost an hour in a sleeping bag. What? That's just insane! Who would be outside in a sleeping bag in this weather. I'm telling ya; he's taking a nap on the deck right now. Lmao
Haha I hope that actually happened!
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Nice bag. Couple that with a pad and tent (or other shelter), you'd push that comfort level right up. I'm strongly considering this for as stated a car bag. Nice review. Thanks.
Yup I think it's perfect in a vehicle roll.
Add a pair of wool socks and a watch cap or balaclava (in addition to what the commenter suggested), and sounds like you would be toasty. Looks like a reasonable bargain.
A "puss pad", foam pad definitely helps a lot! It blocks the cold air from underneath. Sleeping on a cot in the elements in -10--30 without one makes a HUGE difference. It does so much to make a good bag, great! Good point!
A lot of the times the rating means it will keep you alive at that temp, regardless of comfort level. Looks like an incredible deal!!
The military taught me to, never use a sleeping bag without a bivy bag. Keeps you warm and dry, plus it is much easier to clean than a sleeping bag. In the field PJ's are No-Go.
I'd look for a gortex cover. That makes a bag windproof, water proof and increases warmth.
I prefer the military sleep system. It consists of 3 bags. Summer/winter and gortex cover and a stuff sack, the cinces down the bag to a smaller profile.
I've looked at some of the Snugpak sleep systems that are like what you're describing and they look pretty solid for just about any climate.
@@MagicPrepper I live off grid and most nights I wake up at around 1 am and have to put wood into the M1941 tent stove. I'll be up then till almost 3am. Then go back to sleep. I'm retired also, so I end up cat napping during the day, also for a few hours. Currently our winters have been pretty cold . But not as cold as you showed. There are nights where I don't wake up and my sleep system is what I use during the winter. So, some nights the fire goes out and I wake up nice and toasty in the bag in the morning.
Some nights the bag is too warm and I must get up and dry off from sweating! I kid you not! I let the bag air out, restart the fire and wait awhile for the bag to dry out. It airs out pretty fast so it isn't wet inside.
I do have a second one, as well as extra gortex covers put aside.
Rather have thermal underwear, goose down sleeping bag, bivy bag and a tarp
Add a hammock and you're shitting in tall cotton. 👍
You should also conduct a test laying directly on the snow. Just in case you get stranded, and you’re not with a vehicle.
@@codyp587 only at the beach
I thought about it but it was already very cold haha.
@@codyp587 yes, I have a sleeping bag in my vehicle, also a 90% wool blanket. A jet boil stove. United States Coast Guard approved ration bars. As well as a marine flare gun. Last week it was -18 below zero with a 45 below zero windchill. You do not want to break down in North Dakota and be alone. Also, Matt knows I like giving him a hard time.
Even if I get stranded, I STILL know how to put leaves under a sleeping bag.
@@litsci4690 ha ha, ask Magic Prepper how many trees there are in North Dakota lol. Good luck finding leaves. The old joke in the oil field is there’s a beautiful woman behind every tree. You get out here you find out there’s no trees. Everywhere you drive and look all you see is snow piled up. You will not find no leaves. You be better off, digging a hole in the snowbank and making a igloo.
Something to know guys , some sleeping bags are rated for Celsius . So a 0 degree bag is 32. I learned that recently lol
Good thing to mention!
A silk liner (like people buy for travel when sleeping in hotel beds) are pretty cheap but make a huge difference with keeping you warm. Probably an additional 15-20 degree rating in my opinion.
Throw a good heavy wool blanket over that thing and you’re going to go! Thank you, Magic, for enduring the temps to help us with preps!
That’s what I do but I move a lot while sleeping and if the wool blanket moves away from the sleeping bag I can definitely feel the cold. Also I think being 66 years old makes a difference in a sense that you get colder easier. IMO. Wool blankets are great.
Tested all of my gear the last cold spell we had, even got lucky with wind taking it to 0, bag rated to -40 for $75 (Teton on Amazon). Foxelli boots also worked great.
For the price it is definitely worth the money. I do go winter camping quite a bit and have a few different bags and the two I have that are rated to -20 and -10 cost about $350-400. Now they are a lot different and made for hiking but for $50 something to have for just in case you can't go wrong.
I got a Marmot 0°, extra long mummy bag, for a great deal during the year end closeouts a 8 years ago. It's been to Iceland 6x since then, and has never failed to keep me warm.
Marmot is good stuff.
You know what. You stuntmaning this kit is pretty awesome. You can be the "Super Dave Osborne" of the Prepper world. Lol
Get in cold, stay cold. Get in warm, stay warm. Do jumping jacks, run in place, or if camping cut firewood prior to getting in. It really does help. Remember, sleeping bags try to hold in heat, not generate it. A warm body in the bag will help initially get the bag warmed up faster.
Just don't get sweaty.
That's a zombie. A living mammal generates heat...stuff a cat into the foot space as kindling for the inner furnace, feet are warm, body gets warm.
Eating carbohydrates before going to bed helps keep you warm all night as well.
@@Schmitz3 is that why I crave them before bed? I always wondered about that.
Thanks! Just bought one from Midway!
No worries Patricia! A pretty solid value if anything else!
That deck is dad goals lol
As I am a Dad, I agree.
Thank you! I've been looking at sub zero bags for months not really knowing much about them or trusting Amazon reviews. The reviews on midway are great for these. 4 on the way
As a former resident of North Dakota, this was a great video! Thanks for taking the time and putting in the effort on this subject!
Thanks for the content man, I'm from liverpool uk and I'm into my prepping too. I'm currently looking for a new sleeping bag so I might consider getting this 😌 thanks again 🙌
It's definitely a base camp. vehicle or home base sleeping bag. Not for backpacking. But for the price, kind of hard to beat!
3 layers under for every layer over is how we tent camped in sub-zero weather in the boy scouts. I'm a wool blanket fan, so double that over and put the bag on top.
You can use a flannel sleeping bag liner which will bring you more warmth and it will help keep the bag itself cleaner and dryer. Silk also makes a good liner and it will wick perspiration away from you as you sleep.
Pro-tip: If your sleeping bag isnt warm enough, just throw on some thermal underwear (wool not cotton)
Yup, I have that sleeping bag. Have used it several times in -0° weather for winter camping. Love it
I also use a thermal pad underneath
I got a -40 rated sleeping bag on clearance a few years back. It was regularly $450. It was missing the bag for storing it so I got it for $100. I’ve slept in -35 c in Canada’s Yukon and it was very warm. It’s a large bag but I love it.
What brand? Im hiking across the USA in 2 months, im looking for the best brand.
Thanks for your pain and ⏲️
I still would be wearing layers even in a good sleeping bag in cold weather. Got a couple of Russian military cold weather bags before the war and they are amazing.
The things you go through to bring us good videos 😂 thanks, I have been wondering about the validity of these ultra warm bags.
Good test , thanks for sharing , God bless !
yes agree a good bag is important ... but even having a reasonable bag is a life savour
I ordered 3, thank you!
Thank You for suffering on our behalf, I would now consider buying this where doubts may have existed for cost/rating, etc.
Very good subject (sleep) that can't be over stressed. A little better prep next time on sleep. THANKS.
I think you just help midway sell a chit load of these sleeping bags. Thanks man for taking one for the team. Great review
I went ahead and ordered one of these bags today. Needed to order a few other things from Midway. So got a bag also.
I have a Browning sleeping bag. Very heavy but use when I go hunting in a cabin. That thing is very comfortable and super warm. Had it for 12 years too and zero problems.
Nice video. Wiggy's sleeping bags are more than $50 but they will keep you warm at their rated temp. I tested 0 degree bag in 3 degree weather, once I figured how to keep my face protected I was comfortable.
Did you wear a ski mask or something?
I didn't think of that, but that I'll have to try. I used a thin layer of Vaseline
Yes! Thinking of sunny southern Salifornia!😎
I've only ever bought The North Face bags for backpacking. They use to make a model called The Inferno that was forty below used for high altitude climbing.
Has Blue's Clues become so ingrained in our culture that "our handy dandy... ___." just slips into everyday speech, or did I just watch way too much Blue's Clues as a kid?
8 months later it's still marked down to 50 and I'm actually considering it so hoping this review is revealing blunt open amd honest!!!! Thanks for the video
Thanks for the sacrificial test. Your temp gun is questionable though. The bag is decent, but Hypothermia starts to set in @ 95 degreesF. In my younger days I through hiked and collected quite the collection of expensive gear. Lots of plus's and negatives to each kind of bag. This would be for a short term situation, and adding a Mylar full suit would greatly help until professionals arrived to save you.
That surface temperature does not give accurate ambient readings unfortunately. But it is also instantaneous so it was a compromise. Good point on the mylar addition.
WHY is the infrared temperature thermometer a problem?
I bought one on black Friday. Seemed like a good deal. Even for a cheap sleeping bag it's not a bad price
Thanks!
Thank you as well!
Thanks for the video, I ended up getting a Rab Ascent 1100 rated for -13° F (lower limit sleep temperature) for $229 (discounted sale price) here in the UK. Weighs in at 3.84 lbs so can be used for hiking and for a Bug Out Bag. Made in the UK as well.
-25° C, 1.75 Kg and £190. So many conversions. LOL
Could you please link the sleeping bag? Thanks for the awesome video from Fargo ND
Would love love to have one of these sleeping bags...love your videos 😍
The temp flux inside was probably due to going out & in and allowing cold air in which changes the 2nd reading.
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Fun video. I like u doing an actual gear test, to see if it works.
For that price you really can't go wrong if it's doing that well.
I have paid more for bags that weren't that good.
I think I will add a couple of these to my list of items to get.
A good buy for COLD temps, above 0° I have to open the zipper, as it gets too hot. I wear a wool beanie, wool base layers, and wool socks to bed, so unless it's cold, meaning below 0°, the bag is too warm.
Isn't there a web page for 'R' value for sleeping bags? I'm trying to find a decent winter sleeping bag. Rated to at least 0°. As well as a winter sleeping pad. Any info would be helpful. Thank you!
I need one, but my wool blanket roll and about a foot of leaves for cover in a depression makes me sweat.
great info thanks
No problem. I appreciate the support!
I bought a Browning mummy bag in 2017 from Midway and it was clearance priced at around 50 bucks, and it works pretty well.
In winter conditions you would want a matt and to be on the ground for insulation. Cold air underneath you will affect temperature
I’d probably put that bag inside another one, or visa versa. Oh boy…just wait till the wind blows. That’s the bad bad thing
Fyi,Amazon same bag 190 bucks. Not 50. I really hoped u and Amazon were on same page but Amazon is good but there a rip off. ✌
Oh so it's just Midway then? Good to know.
I've got 2 bags I use, A cheapo (~$50) bag and an ultralight ($400+) bag. When it's really cold you can bet I use the cheap / heavy / bulky one, and if needed add a liner, make sure i'm on top of some sort of pad and maybe throw an extra blanket on top if it's really bad. Oh and wear a hat too !
As a 6'4" 229lb Mexican who never fit into his military sleeping bags... and have gone through a few higher end ones (miss measured) once you're past that 6'3" range.. if it's not an XL sleeping bag. It won't work. Sadly REI (cost wise) tends to be my go-too as you can try them out at their stores.
It's a rough life for big & tall. I wear a size 15 boot so I feel your pain.
What was the negative temperature?
there are military extreme cold weather surplus bags. They are heavy but man they are warm and very rugged
If you are looking to stay warm you MUST have insulation between you and the ground. The best bag will not stop cold from beneath you
Thanks for your sacrifice ✌💯🇺🇸
Thanks for this video. Got a bag just like that, think I'll try it with a bivy but on the ground.
It would likely do alright with a Bivy. Especially in a dugout.
Or possibly some cypress branches... Won't sleep "great " but it'll do the job
@@davidokeefe9303 Agreed haha
Next week. I'll let ya know
I would sat that it was a nice starter test for cold weather sleeping. I hope you take a shot at over night winter camping outdoors. Trust me it can be done, the trick is understanding how to get the best performances from your sleeping gear. There is a couple of Canadian YT guys that do overnighters in the great outdoor with nothing but sleeping bags in -30 temps.
I just ordered 2 of them!
Did you get in your jammies! Great job and test! I like a wide end for the foot room. I can't sleep very good in a mummy bag. I had a excellent military arctic mountain sleep system bag that had instructions on it so you can dry your clothes while you sleep, it worked. Got stolen.
Good video I like it. It's now $219. My GOSH . LOL.
Do you have a discount code for Midway?
Great review. I am a huge fan of down sleeping bags, but wow, for $50... Thous seems great for the price and purpose you stated.
I guess this was in a way just as much a review of that thermometer as it was thd sleeping bag. The thermometer didn't seem to do quite as well.
Very well worth $50
What are the materials? Outer, inner lining and stuffing? Goose down?
Good video! It sounds like the bag did its job. Even in sort of a worst case senerio. I think that you would have been significantly warmer if you weren't laying directly on the lounge chair. Your weight compresses the insulation beneath you, which dramatically reduces its insulating properties. With some kind of pad I think your experience would have been better.
BTW, the reference on the fit with your size was helpful. I'm an inch taller then you, and about 10 lbs heavier than you. I have a very difficult time finding bags that I fit into comfortably. I barely fit into the bag that I use now. Also, I find that a wool stocking cap helps me stay much warmer than otherwise.
Edit: Well okay! I just noticed half the other comments said the same thing! It was still a very interesting video. I'm sure we've all wondered on a cold night "How well is this thing working anyway?"
Thanks for YOU DOING IT, BRRRR 🥶🥶🥶
A thermal break and a wool lining will make the cheap sleeping bag even better.
Sounds like you need old fashioned thermometer!
I had hoped the infrared would at least give an idea of the contrast. But conventional would've given actual ambient temps.
@@MagicPrepper believe it or not, I get pretty consistent ratings from my Ames infrared thermometer which came from Harbor Freight. It reads 3-5 degrees low, but is consistent enough to accurately determine how much of a fever one of my kids have by comparing the difference to everyone else in the family. Used it yesterday to see what part of my kitchen drain pipe was frozen because someone left the damn crawlspace vent open…
Frozen corpse of "survivalist" TH-camr found on his own porch.
That’s pretty good for you having on short sleeves on. In reality you would have on long sleeves.
OK how do I buy that before joining the marines
Body temp during sleep is not the same as how you may feel when awake.
It’s completely different and you cannot ‘rest’ like this.
Also, all bags require a sleeping pad that is rated for the temperatures.
You would have likely been miserable, possibly hypothermic, and not slept at all with just the bag like this.
What were you doing in the sleeping bag ? 114. Or 115 degrees. ??? Jk, that looks to be a good bag. Ty.
Haha I was concerned about a fart possibly.
lol, you need to test your thermometer next video.
Well first, I'd say you always need a pad under you. The bag doesn't have insulation if it's flat. Loft keeps the air. Loft gone: little to no insulation. The foam pad gives you the lost insulation.
Temperature ratings are for survival; not comfort. You will stay alive to -20. In a way, you kind of said that. But always remember, you want a foam pad to lay it on. Knowing that, was your back colder than the rest? Good video. Is that temp gage otherwise pretty accurate? Brand?
I didn't notice my back being much colder than the rest of my body. But I agree, you would use a pad of some kind in general. Or at least be inside some type of structure. The temp gage is from NAPA and it works generally. Surface temperature just fluctuates a lot more than ambient.
@@MagicPrepper
I was going to say the same regarding a pad , but you seem to have done well without it which means a lot considering the cold air that would be coming up from the bottom.
I’d like to see a video of you shooting that crappy thermometer lol
I mean, it still has a good laser pointer haha
@@MagicPrepper 😄👍🏻
Well that disqualified me I'm 6'6 270lbs.
Sorry Rob. It's a solid leg warmer for you though.
Damn! I'm hard to please at only 6'3" and 244. You're definitely a life sized person.
Just found a few sleeping bags on clearance from Walmart they aren't rated for that cold tho
I like sales and clearance. There is definitely a value to performance ratio that I look for.
@@MagicPrepper Yes sir always look in the clearance section I found a water purification pitcher and a bunch of filters so I also pick them up as well as meds and candles
You posted: "And I only spent an hour outside as it was very cold..." From that statement my verdict is, it really didn't work. And it's just an Ad to support your sponsor.
Love Midway 🇺🇸
Kinda non conclusive with your temperature readings. Suggest that you would have had better results if not suspended above the ground on the lounger. Winter sub-zero camping, you need a pad or at least something for a moisture barrier, tarp, wool blanket, emergency blanket, pine boughs, on the ground, not suspended. This bag inside of an emergency sleeping bag, and you would be able to survive -20 no problem. In a building or vehicle, no problem.
A stocking cap is an essential heat saving piece of clothing for winter.
Down filled bags are the warmest, but if they get wet, they are worthless. I think for $50 bucks, this is a good cold weather bag at least to 0 degrees, -20. You better know what you're doing, or you will freeze to death. True arctic bags use a 2 bag system. I've used older military arctic 2 bagbag systems and rated at -40. The outer bag is heavy-duty canvas filled goose down weight about 20 lb. The inner bag is also filled with goose down, mummy bag about 4lb. I still have and use the inner bag. It's over 60 years old. In fact, it may be older than me. I'm 71 and totally avoiding sleeping in -20 degree weather 🙃
Yeah, I'd say 50 bucks vs freezing to death is worth 50 bucks.
A 'good' nights sleep is 'critical' in a survival situation. It is 'needed' to regenerate the body & mind for the next days work. And because a person is IN a 'survival situation', there is also an increase of STRESS draining on the body & mind... If your not 'comfortable' your not going to sleep well (I'm talking REM sleep). It only takes 2 to 3 bad nights on a person where they are in the same situation as being DRUNK. And Drunks make bad decisions.
Garmin solar ?
Don't think about being much larger than 6'3"... like is 6'6" too much?
I have a -20F rated sleeping bag, i’ve brought it to music festivals in the damn desert and that shit works too well 😂 hopefully never find out if it works at the rating level
Where is the link to buy the bag?
I can't post links but it's from MidwayUSA
Use a pad. Helps. Then also go to bed with a jacket and pants on. Helps allot. Nice sleeping bag for the price. I got a couple 20 degree sleeping bags for 20 dollars each. They were on sale at dicks sporting goods. But been looking for a couple negative temp sleeping bags. This one just might do the trick.
When did you buy them? Is the sale still on
Bought two of these bags, they kept me warm down to -18° ,no problem. Had two problems, one the zipper broke two weeks of use, the other, my nose got frostbite, as it was the only thing exposed. The other bag is kept in trk. I bought a wool blanket to go inside the bag for Temps below -20°. The bag is worth having the cheap zipper replaced with a YKK zipper. For the money already bag, for over $200.00, not so much.
Thanks for the info. That was kind of my thoughts as well. For $50? Sure. For MSRP $220? Maybe not.
@@MagicPrepper I bought thee two bags when they were $65 ea.
Still no complaints, but I think the zipper problem is the reason for the price drop. I inquired at MidwayUSA, but got no response.
@@Raya14sleep with a light weight baclava or other face covering to protect your face. So what if it gets wet from condensation as it will dry much faster than the bag.
@graywind4326 one can't breathe into the bag , no matter what one is wearing.
Wearing wool everything, head to toe, helps control body moisture.
My nose was all that was exposed and got bit. -18 was the temp before I fell asleep. I'm pretty sure it got lower, as the inside walls of the trlr were covered in ice.
@@Raya14 your face can be outside the bag or at least vent outside and covered by a separate baclava. You want to be wearing a head and face covering appropriate for outdoor temps and to warm the air your breathing. You just want to avoid venting into the bag. Most mummy bags will create a tunnel for your breath to leave the bag and a baffle around your neck area. But you still need head gear on and potentially a face covering. Its just your breath is not being fed back into the bag.
With a good inflatable pad under you that would have done a lot better. The insulation below you was compressed by your weight and not as effective.
With the Chinese balloon entering over Montana you'd think MP would go live, but since news broke of it entering American airspace my phone has been going bonkers, and I'm in Indiana...makes me wonder if they're jamming, anyone else?
Commenting. Yes.
Yes.
Nice Sephiroth hair bro
You got a link for this?
Can't post links but I got it from MidwayUSA
@@MagicPrepper thank you 🤗