Yeah once an item is listed as defect or faulty they can write whatever they want, unless they say "just doesn't turn on" with a normal picture while it's broken into 15 pieces.
@@clydedanger5932 eBay has buyer protection against sold as parts and faulty listing aswell. You can't say things like "item looks in good cosmetic condition but doesn't turn on" and when it arrives you get broken scrap you can file a dispute. I've won a case against a buyer who listed a faulty ps4. He claimed it suddenly stopped working and no attempted repair and I was willing to take the risk. The ps4 came with no hdd and some chips were taken off (clearly a failed repair). I filed a "item not described" and won even though the user listed as parts.
@@bayernsa Yer but you compare apples and pears. The cosmetic condition was good, that dosnt mean the inside looks good as well. My guess the seller didnt know how it looked inside. It is not false advertisement.
Love the new setup Vince! Really good effort on the repair. I can't believe you even got it to slow charge...that was A LOT of liquid damage. Great video.
Haha, you mean with the overhead camera, it is just my normal tripod but tipped right forward and some weights to stop it falling over. I did buy some new lighting though so maybe the videos might look a bit clearer :-) I did get my hopes up when it was charging at 0.4A but as soon as I removed the bigger charge I/C MT????? it would not longer do that, down to 0A!!!! And I swapped it out with other chips and I think it was on good so I don't know what I did there. I was going to contact you but I thought the corrosion was too bad to fault find over email :-) I am hoping your next batch of 8 Switches might have a water damaged one that you can fix so I can revisit this one :-) I do have 2 more to do so I may be in contact! Cheers Steve.
Is it coincidence that my name is steven as well, well you're steve but still same name and we love fixing electronics, I may not have all the tools to fix everything but still I enjoy it, got my fixed after water damage. It was sittin up after 2 years then decided to work on it with the IPA alcohol trick. I learned from you two. Thank you guys! 😊😊
Yeah. Nice touch to the videos. And I’m sure your back is so thankful now. I was wondering why you were filming that way but, now knowing how your camera is placed I supose you could not fit beneath your tripod! Great and resilient job, mate!
Yes, the lighting really helps. I think it looks great. Ha, ha...ya, with that much damage it's pretty much a waste of time (at least for me) to fault find because as soon as you fix one thing you just have to move on to the next and with no schematics on these it's pretty much impossible to trace down some problems. Hopefully none of my next Switches are liquid damaged, ha, ha!
Hi, I have been in contact with the seller for a part refund but it is not happening. I will just leave a negative and forget it. The problem is when something is sold as spares then you have no come back because the seller didn't say it WASN'T dropped in a pool or bath or the sea or a toilet full of urine!!!! You will often find when someone is selling something faulty they are very vague with next to no description of the fault apart from 'it is not working'. In my opinion the seller knew exactly what has happened to this Switch and was motivated by greed. Still wondering why the remains of the sticker was across the back, that also isn't normal. Maybe it was sent in for repair and was told it was unrepairable and the sticker was put on in the repair shop. Still, live and let live. If people want to live their life like that then I wish them the best of luck as they must get a whole heap of grief daily and I wouldn't want that life :-)
So it looks like the seller sold the unit as "parts" and not as "used"...therefore there is no recourse. Sometimes you get lucky and the seller sells something As-Is/For Parts but still lists the item as "used" and not as "parts/not working" - and if this is the case, no matter what they say in the description (they can literally say that it was ran over by a truck) since the item was listed as "used" you can get your money back if it wont work. In the description for something being "used" on eBay, the item must fully function and you can open a request and if the seller wont refund, escalate it to eBay and 99% of the time they side with the buyer in instances like this and force the refund...unless it was listed as "parts." Many sellers dont realize/recognize this distinction and eBay overrides any conditions you may have to the sale listed in the description if you dont list the item properly. Saying the sale is final/as-is/no returns is meaningless if they classified the item incorrectly.
Had one case where I sold a galaxy s6 phone with a broken screen. I sold it as parts indicating that only screen is damaged and everything else was working. After few weeks buyer claimed it had some kind of motherboard damage that I didn't mentioned and disputed it through ebay.. eBay took his side I then accepted a return and it came in with signs of opening but eBay refused to do anything.. so with eBay and electronic sales you can get horror stories for both sides..
@@Mymatevince Appreciate it may come across as vindictive but have you named and shamed the seller in this video? I couldn't see them so assume you haven't but if it would stop anyone watching this video ever buying from them in the future some good would come from this...
Hi fluxflaw, no I don't want to do that. I have left a negative and the seller knows I am not happy with the sale so that should be enough. His feedback is actually pretty good so it could have been just one bad item or lack of judgement on his behalf :-)
I really do hate sellers that have clearly lied. With that much corrosion there is no way they didn't know what happened. Keep up with the awesome videos Vince!!
Looks like this has been left outside in the rain overnight. Maybe a child had been playing on it in the garden and the parent found it outside the day after. Then sold it to Vince for an extortionate amount.
One thing I recommend: check the voltage on the power button line. It *should* be pulled up to 5v via the PMIC (Power Management Integrated Circuit). However, if there's a short somewhere, the PMIC will make sure to turn off all voltage outputs for safety (it can detect shorts through feedback circuits and knows safe/normal levels and will turn off quickly before damage can be done/made worse). If that is present, I would suggest seeing if the main 1.8v line comes on. This powers most devices in the Switch, and can be checked at the volume buttons, again, they should be pulled up to 1.8v so you should be able to see some voltage on them if the 1.8v line is working. If it does come on for a split second but then turn off, that means either the 1.8v line or some power line that comes on after it has a short or possibly a broken feedback circuit. More tips: on badly water damaged devices you may not be able to get under the BGA chips easily (though, some BGA chips are really not that hard with a hot air gun, some solder balls, a stencil, some flux and patience), however, you can reflow them with flux, which will force some flux underneath the chip and this may help to clear any corrosion. Take out the NAND (the little chip on the separate board near the screen connector) and plug into USB; this can kick you into RCM mode (recovery mode) and will tell you if it's something that hasn't been powered up yet or if it's something that's powered on by default The small BGA chips near the processor with all of the larger components near them are voltage regulators for the CPU core voltage and the GPU core voltage. Measure voltages around that area. One is on whenever the processor is on, and one is configured later, so don't worry if you don't see anything in one area but do in the other. You make comments about how it looks like it's been left for a long time, but this video highlights how little time it can take to corrode when there's electricity present: th-cam.com/video/FOgsjd5Uxt4/w-d-xo.html
Wow, I wish you filmed some TH-cam videos on this as I am sure they would help a ton of people out with knowledge on the Switch like that :-) I did have approx 2V on the top pin (from memory) on the ribbon cable that goes off to the power button and I think it comes back on the 2nd top pin (there was continuity when the power button was pressed). On the working switch I think I had 4.2 or 4.something volts. See the problem is because of lack of knowledge I am only checking the caps for shorts against ground so I don't know any other way to check for shorts. Amazingly this board didn't have any that I can see. But because I do not understand the series of events when you power up the Switch then I measure for voltage in different areas but it means nothing to me. I will try popping the NAND off to see if the PC recognises it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this.
Air cooling boards without heat, may not adequately dry water from behind components and between chip legs, thus causing short circuits and damage to components. U.V. lamp is used to ensure that all moisture is dried away from the board. U.V. lamp is better for drying boards as it applies a uniform heating in a controlled gradual manner that doesn't cause thermal shock, it doesn't degrade the gloss of the conformal coating on the board as opposed to the using a hot air gun which can cause thermal shock to the board and its components and also degrades the gloss on the conformal coating. Degradation of the conformal coating may lead to further corrosion, broken traces or short circuits.
It's a way to try and get it working (for a short time) multilayer boards with liquid damage are not repairable because corrosion will get between those layers and can't be cleaned, even with a ultrasonic cleaner. So yes it may work but it's never gonna be a solid fix for a long time. If you buy stuff like that fix it in a ultrasonic cleaner and sell it that way , you now know you sell crap!
If they were using bath salts or some other additive to their bath water and dropped it in then it would definitely look like that after a few days. Same thing for a pool/hot tub or the ocean. Distilled water wouldn't cause much damage (possibly none) at all. Corrosion doesn't usually happen until it's exposed to the air (outside of a saline environment) and once it starts it needs to be cleaned off ASAP if you want to save the device because it will continue to grow along the traces and damage other chips. If you had a reflow oven that may bring it back to life but it's a crap shoot at this point. If you drop a device in water you need to power it off immediately if it is still on and disconnect the battery if possible. If you immediately clean it with IPA then it likely will be fine, but don't attempt to power it back on until all traces of moisture have been removed. If you just let it dry out but don't clean it it will likely work for a time but it will corrode and it will likely fail eventually (unless it was dropped into distilled or deionized water, which is pretty unlikely to happen by accident). I've used distilled water as a first step to clean corroded electronics before, followed up with IPA and electronics parts surface purifier. Sometimes they come back to life, sometimes they don't. You really need an ultrasonic cleaner to be sure you get all the corrosion, though.
Love your vids, Vince! You really gave it the ol' college try on this one. The seller is probably snickering while he watches this video. Let's hope that what comes around goes around.
Louis Rossman has a video where he demonstrates what happens with water and some sort of sugary drink on a board with power - which laptops and other battery powered devices practically always have when they get wet. You can literally watch contacts on chips and passive components get eaten away in mere minutes. Worth checking out. Of course this one’s damage is something else - as you said it was probably submerged for quite some time.
What a shame =( Epic attempt to fix it though! I feel like you got conned there! One reason why its sometimes not worth the risk with expensive faulty systems like this on eBay. It was probably submerged for just a few seconds, but then the liquid sat in there and you see the results. It would probably take a few weeks to get to that state though I would think. As others have said - looks like salt water or chlorine water (pool). It has that kind of salty look to the corrosion.
Thank you Chris. Yeah, the corrosion reminds me of that hoverboard that also had liquid damage, looks very powdery. That is the risk you take when you buy spares or repair on eBay. They can sell whatever junk they like as they have said it is not working. I tried to get a part refund but in my opinion the seller is more concerned with money more than doing the right thing, you know the sort :-( Neg has been left as I believe dishonesty is at play. Could you check your emails for me please :-)
He was peeing and fell into the toilet. Realized like 3 hours later. The whole family peed during this time as well. I dont know why it stopped working.
Could you do a video on all of the Nintendo Switches you have bought and all the various problems and issues you have had, also if you can build a working one out of a couple of broken ones with your new knowledge and skills?
Indeed, I have a semi-pro Hilsonic 3MX for cleaning the moving parts of my Beretta Semi-auto 12g, 1 hour later sparkling clean trigger group and filthy black water... nice
@@amigaman9433 you are right most of the time all what you need for repairing water damage is only cleaning with ultrasonic but dont forget but dont forget to use it right its can be killer to for your board and smd's
Thanks. Any recommendations for a cheap Ultrasonic cleaner, maybe under £100. Would be nice if it could fit a PS4 or Xbox One board in it but I would settle for something smaller. Maybe the cheap ones are rubbish???? if you have any info or recommendations then I would be interested in hearing them. Many thanks, Vince :-)
@@Mymatevince I just write ultrasonic cleaner in ebay and you will find alot of choice but it must have heating System and i think 10 litre or more will fit all kind of bord .Vince you really need before you order anything to know exactly how its working and watching louis rossman video talking about ultrasonic cleaner for macbook board or any board has help me alot .i wish for you luck and i will waiting your video talking about ultrasonic cleaner and how to use it 😊👍
That’s the trouble with consoles,the non working ones are mostly owned by kids that don’t understand the meaning of money or looking after things until they have to get a job and buy their own stuff.
Haha, but did I do it correctly or not we will never know :-). I did gain a lot of experience on this one so in the long run hopefully it will pay off :-)
Such a shame on that one vince but really good effort! For £120 while expensive at least you have a good amount of increased knowledge and confidence on these now! Plus that much corrosion I bet someone has been playing it in the bath or dropped it in the sink. Dropped it in, switch has then died and then it has been attempted to take apart hence the couple of dodgy screws, failed that. And then ultimately left to corrode. With that much water and corrosion in there it’s unlikely it worked again once it had gotten that wet. I bet a lot of components on that board are damaged, Traces damaged, contacts corroded etc. And while water damaged can be fixable, it’s usually not practical because of how much damage it can do as seen here.
If there’s current running through it at the time Of coming in contact with the liquid it takes seconds to cause corrosion like this, also has a habit of killing resistors/capacitors and similar components
I repaired mobile phones for along time and I had one similar come in. Long story short kid dropped it in pool and hid it from parents in his closet for a week. It never got dried off good and some water stayed in it for a few days to a week. Dad found it and it was a lost cause. Bummer man better luck next time.
My best suggestion would be to leave the board soaking in 99% alcohol / acetone for a good half hour this method has worked for me previously on water damaged iphones.
Hi, I haven't tested the battery or screen yet. Next time I have a working Switch apart I can pop the motherboard into the Titanic Switch and see what happens :-)
Quick question, new to electronic repairs here. I understand from the comments that you can use ultrasonic cleaners for liquid damage. But if the liquid damage is on a small patch on the board, what's the best thing to clean it up?
Ahoy my mate Vince, as always loved the vid, keep uploading. What I would like to tell you. First of all corrosion doesn't happen instantly. It takes times and current flow for it to be any hazzard. You can run nintendo switch in distilled water and it will be fine, but once you introduce minerals, boy then happy pixies have extra paths to go, and wrogs stuff starts to happen. In my opinion, this much corrosion is only possible if it was left on charge, (like hoping it will get zapped back to a reality). Another thing is that you have to get a untrasonic cleaner for this kindf of a damage, I use one in my lab and it makes a ton of difference. (be sure snap a pic of corosion before doing that, just to have some reference for really bad parts of the board). Soldering those QFN chips is not hard, but you have to get really good flux and basic microscope. I would love to take a look at it, Maybe it's still fixable. I work as a IT/Electronics Engineer so have some knowledge that could be used for reviving this puppy. Currently I'm working on my own channel that will be called RokasLab, and there I will be fixing and creating stuff, so I think you could really get a blast of a video out of this. Send it to me, I will pay any shipping cost, and then I will ship it back to you, either fixed, or just as you sent it to me. Will document any progress like your self and provide it to you for you videos. I would really like to try to solve this mystery. If you want to do this, please contact me: rokasraulinaitis@hotmail.com, or if just want to talk about repair and share knowledge, drop me a message. best wishes mate! And may the fixing gods be with you :DD
A good way to find shorts on boards like this is plug into power and add lighter fluid. Any shorts will either a heat up and be seen or b you will see the liquid moving
I'm sure your well aware on how PayPal works but you could open an item not as described case you could return it and they'd have to pay the return postage
Great video. You should report the seller for a fraudulent listing. Its obviously been standing in water for quite some time. We can't allow these scammers to continue to get away with this.
you can fully disassemble it and put PCBs and coroded parts in ultrasonic bath cleaner, this will wash it perfectly and shiny, just make sure you don't use conductive cleaner. You've put too much solder on the heat transfer pad under the chips and this can cause shorting on pins under the chip with pad
@@Mymatevince Sorry for long link and comment. Any one can do the job, it depends on cleaner you put, must be non conductive and suited for PCBs here is one similar to what i use in phone service -> www.aliexpress.com/item/Skymen-600ml-Digital-Mini-Ultrasonic-Bath-Jewelry-Watches-Dental-Ultrasonic-Cleaner/32820623996.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.14.5aa9514cafejyN&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_10_10065_10068_319_317_10696_10084_453_10083_454_10618_10304_10307_10820_10821_537_10302_536_10902_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_6,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=56f374de-fb50-4c48-aa91-da5ebc96efb4-5&algo_pvid=56f374de-fb50-4c48-aa91-da5ebc96efb4 After cleaning the board you should wash it and dry it good so no resedue left. No need to desolder parts. The corosion occured after the water dry inside, calcium and acid from some drinks can leave oxidising corosion like this, Coca cola make it even worse, when combined with electricity becomes electrolize with tin and coper.
@@technixbul Thanks, I have my eye on a £75 6L one 6000ml. It won't fit the Xbox One or PS4 boards but it will do all the handhelds like the Switch etc. and they are probably more likely to get liquid damaged. I can also use it to try and fix up automatic watches. Thanks for the help on this :-)
My Mate VINCE - I know the crest ultrasonics is very good, but it's very expensive. You can always buy a cheaper one on eBay, It is important to pay attention to the size of the container, you need a relatively large size (the motherboar must be completely submerged in water), on supersonic clener it is enough to use distilled water and join a expecific fluid, then it is important to put the motherboard on IPA to eliminate the water it may contain and let it dry.
@@tiagomarques9997 Thanks for the tips. I think Louis Rossman has a video on the Crest version. I have to be a bit careful with money as it will not be getting used very often and I am also tight on space. I have bought a budget £75 6L one so it will do for the smaller handheld devices and watches etc. It won't fit an Xbox or PS4 board but hopefully it will be good for other items :-)
@@Mymatevince :o you replied! i've been watching your videos for months since you started repairing stuff on your carpet! Inspired me to start repair stuff on my own! Cheers mate!
I'm no expert but it looks to be flood damage. Like it was in the flood water and was recovered after the waters subsided and the poor homeowner was allowed back in.. I don't see tap water doing something like that in a quick dip.
Unfortunately it wouldn't have to be in water very long to sustain this sort of damage and as a switch is slightly bigger and has more entery points than a phone water will easily and very quickly rush in. Also the quality of liquid it was submerged in plays a key role for instance had it been dropped in coke the damage would probably be slightly less. But bath water or tape water have many impurities that attack the solder and copper very quickly and would only need a small amount to get the results that you see on your board. Great video buddie
my guess is this particular switch was left outside in the garden overnight during rain, rain is actually quite acidic and a few hours with it coating the components will seriously corrode them, especially if it was just left sitting in the system for days/weeks
Hey Vince where do you find info on repairing NS? Bough couple joycons and have problem with one, posted already on ifixit, on reddit and on one of polish sites but zero interest. Also cant find any info on it. Do you have any sites or forums with active people who repair electronics and are kin on helping?
@@Mymatevince ahh it's Chopin is it. Couldn't place it at all. Thank you for taking the time to reply. I really enjoy your videos. I would love you to do a video on your kit and give a review on what you would change about it if you had a chance. I think it would be really helpful for enthusiasts looking to get into the more intricate repairs. Just a suggestion, either way please keep up the great videos!
Take a look at Louis Rossman videos, tiny droplets of liquid can cause massive amounts of corrosion when voltage is applied, my guess is the switch was running while it was still wet and that's when the corrosion occurred.
I think that maybe because the switch has the air vents, if it was dropped in water for a few seconds, water could get inside it through there, and stay inside it for quite a while, which is what I think might have happened to this one. I’m not sure, but it’s a possibility.
That is true but as he somewhat hinted at and me sort of using the vent theory, if water would get in that way, surely it would come out fairly as easily as it went in. I may be wrong, but just my understanding / theory to debunk that reasoning.
Hi Vince. Good try to repair that Switch. I think the switch was taken to the bath i took a good "clean" in it -_- if you buy faulty electronics off ebay do you ever ask the sellers some questions beforehand like "was the device opened before?", "was the device dropped into water or got any other fluid damage?" ? If those people doesnt want to answer such questions i would never buy anything from them. other than that, nice video! sorry for my poor english, many greetings from germany!
Thanks Tenjio79, I don't normally ask questions beforehand. If I like the look of an item I tend to just buy it. That is probably half my problem, if more research was done I could potentially get better items. No need to apologise for your English, it is very good :-)
It's still sometimes worth getting a water damaged device if you know what sort of faults to look for and can tell by the pictures. I just recently got a Switch (no joycons) for about £85, the listed fault was that it had been water damaged, been opened up and dried out carefully, still turns on but no longer detects the right joycon. I took a gamble, and as it turns out the water damage is absolutely minimal. The real cause of the right joycon fault is that they put the ribbon cable back in the wrong place, so it pulled tight and ripped off at the joycon end when they reassembled the Switch. Just £4 for a new side rail assembly and it's now working absolutely perfectly, though I may replace the digitizer and back cover because of scratches, and should probably clean up a bit more of the corrosion if I can just to be safe.
That's looks like salt water liquid damage that's why you have so much trouble. Instead of connecting it to the battery, use a lab power supply with 1Amp limited current to avoid further damage , if needed you can increase current up to 2Amps. Voltage can be set at 4.1V this way you can understand if the unit is responding or in short. You can also take measurements and make further analysis. Take a voltage reading on those inductors in relation to GND see if voltage is present, some of them usually start disconnected but they at least should have voltage on the main mosfets
Maybe you could try and heat up every single component with a heatgun (high heat, low air), including the CPU/GPU/RAM? Not speaking from experience, but I've seen (from your videos and others') that low airflow heatgunning won't blow small components straight off. As for the BGA-components, it could help to reflow them (unless it's so badly corroded that the ball-sockets are ruined). If that doesn't work, you may as well take EVERY component off and get a good understanding of how bad the corrosion is underneath. It's going to make the whole Switch completely trashed... but right now, it's already trashed.
Great video Vince ! - Looks like salt water to me with the rate of corrosion. I would investigate the area where the power button ribbon connects to the motherboard via the zif lock mechanism test to see if there is anything coming from there, i have shorted out pins on a motherboard to start the system before now by the power button socket.. Another tip if you think there might have been water ingress on a system is the small square paper that will turn a solid colour located by the power socket on the motherboard ( usually red dots on white paper ) in your case it was a solid green corrosion colour ! :) THUMBS UP!
Before re-soldering stuff on one of those boards I would have taken a couple good pictures of both sides and thrown the board into an ultrasonic cleaner first then test it. If it didn't work after the ultrasonic I would have started changing parts out at that point. The USB-C Meter is helpful but I recommend getting a schematic and using a multimeter to test components.
Hi, the right joy-con appears to work fine but it hasn't been fully tested for rumble, IR and NFC, the left Joy-Con is dead but it might be repairable :-)
From watching Louis Rossmann I've learned that that sort of liquid damage can happen in a few minutes, or just a few seconds if the console was turned on. Also it would take a while to dry out, giving it more time to corrode.
I managed to revive a 3ds that had massive water damage and mud inside. Scrub and rinse in water then, isopropyl. I was amazed when it powered up. Also it may have been worth checking the fan, if it's jammed/broken it failing to spin may prevent boot.
Got to hand it to you I love the way you will not be beaten, great effort but people are right loads of crooks on eBay, which if you fancy repairing my terrible attempt at replacing a screen on a Wii U controller let me know.
gutted! The seller was definitely pulling your leg there. potentially still can use the good shell pieces and joycons? Hopefully the screen is alright too.
Thanks Elliot, he certainly was :-) Shell does look good. Haven't tested the screen yet. Right Joy-Con, case and charger all look fine so it is not all bad. You were unlucky with your capacitor changeout on the GameGear. Those glass screen covers look really nice though so the end product looks great.
Hello, Vince :) That was a lot of corrosion, but next time You can just reflow corroded parts with flux, no need to take them out, flux should take care of corrosion :)
You could probably keep/reuse the casing, the gamecard reader (maybe?), sd card reader (maybe?), fan and heatsync/heatpipe would probably be usable if cleaned, that metal backplate heatspreader thing would probably be useable if cleaned, maybe the screen. The motherboard is definitely not reusable obviously xD, and even if it works the eMMC (system storage) is useless as under most circumstances it is non-replaceable
"For sale, 1 gently used Nintendo switch. Extra clean on the outside. For some reason it doesn't turn on."
-Seller: Sponge Bob SP.
Now that is brilliant, made me laugh hard :)
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Brilliant:-)
Q: It is the swiming pool version or the toilet limited edition ?. Thanks.
@@38911bytefree hahaha u funny
This is false advertisement, this switch was soaked in water... i'd report the seller to ebay.
its not its sold as broken point
Yeah once an item is listed as defect or faulty they can write whatever they want, unless they say "just doesn't turn on" with a normal picture while it's broken into 15 pieces.
@@clydedanger5932 eBay has buyer protection against sold as parts and faulty listing aswell. You can't say things like "item looks in good cosmetic condition but doesn't turn on" and when it arrives you get broken scrap you can file a dispute. I've won a case against a buyer who listed a faulty ps4. He claimed it suddenly stopped working and no attempted repair and I was willing to take the risk. The ps4 came with no hdd and some chips were taken off (clearly a failed repair). I filed a "item not described" and won even though the user listed as parts.
@@bayernsa Yer but you compare apples and pears. The cosmetic condition was good, that dosnt mean the inside looks good as well. My guess the seller didnt know how it looked inside. It is not false advertisement.
@@clydedanger5932 except the switch was opened hence why a screw missing. The owner knew what thr inside was like.
Love the new setup Vince! Really good effort on the repair. I can't believe you even got it to slow charge...that was A LOT of liquid damage. Great video.
Haha, you mean with the overhead camera, it is just my normal tripod but tipped right forward and some weights to stop it falling over. I did buy some new lighting though so maybe the videos might look a bit clearer :-) I did get my hopes up when it was charging at 0.4A but as soon as I removed the bigger charge I/C MT????? it would not longer do that, down to 0A!!!! And I swapped it out with other chips and I think it was on good so I don't know what I did there. I was going to contact you but I thought the corrosion was too bad to fault find over email :-) I am hoping your next batch of 8 Switches might have a water damaged one that you can fix so I can revisit this one :-) I do have 2 more to do so I may be in contact! Cheers Steve.
Is it coincidence that my name is steven as well, well you're steve but still same name and we love fixing electronics, I may not have all the tools to fix everything but still I enjoy it, got my fixed after water damage. It was sittin up after 2 years then decided to work on it with the IPA alcohol trick. I learned from you two. Thank you guys! 😊😊
Phone fixed lol
Yeah. Nice touch to the videos. And I’m sure your back is so thankful now. I was wondering why you were filming that way but, now knowing how your camera is placed I supose you could not fit beneath your tripod! Great and resilient job, mate!
Yes, the lighting really helps. I think it looks great.
Ha, ha...ya, with that much damage it's pretty much a waste of time (at least for me) to fault find because as soon as you fix one thing you just have to move on to the next and with no schematics on these it's pretty much impossible to trace down some problems.
Hopefully none of my next Switches are liquid damaged, ha, ha!
I would report to eBay has malicious they knew it was this bad
Hi, I have been in contact with the seller for a part refund but it is not happening. I will just leave a negative and forget it. The problem is when something is sold as spares then you have no come back because the seller didn't say it WASN'T dropped in a pool or bath or the sea or a toilet full of urine!!!! You will often find when someone is selling something faulty they are very vague with next to no description of the fault apart from 'it is not working'. In my opinion the seller knew exactly what has happened to this Switch and was motivated by greed. Still wondering why the remains of the sticker was across the back, that also isn't normal. Maybe it was sent in for repair and was told it was unrepairable and the sticker was put on in the repair shop. Still, live and let live. If people want to live their life like that then I wish them the best of luck as they must get a whole heap of grief daily and I wouldn't want that life :-)
So it looks like the seller sold the unit as "parts" and not as "used"...therefore there is no recourse. Sometimes you get lucky and the seller sells something As-Is/For Parts but still lists the item as "used" and not as "parts/not working" - and if this is the case, no matter what they say in the description (they can literally say that it was ran over by a truck) since the item was listed as "used" you can get your money back if it wont work. In the description for something being "used" on eBay, the item must fully function and you can open a request and if the seller wont refund, escalate it to eBay and 99% of the time they side with the buyer in instances like this and force the refund...unless it was listed as "parts." Many sellers dont realize/recognize this distinction and eBay overrides any conditions you may have to the sale listed in the description if you dont list the item properly. Saying the sale is final/as-is/no returns is meaningless if they classified the item incorrectly.
Had one case where I sold a galaxy s6 phone with a broken screen. I sold it as parts indicating that only screen is damaged and everything else was working. After few weeks buyer claimed it had some kind of motherboard damage that I didn't mentioned and disputed it through ebay.. eBay took his side I then accepted a return and it came in with signs of opening but eBay refused to do anything.. so with eBay and electronic sales you can get horror stories for both sides..
@@Mymatevince Appreciate it may come across as vindictive but have you named and shamed the seller in this video? I couldn't see them so assume you haven't but if it would stop anyone watching this video ever buying from them in the future some good would come from this...
Hi fluxflaw, no I don't want to do that. I have left a negative and the seller knows I am not happy with the sale so that should be enough. His feedback is actually pretty good so it could have been just one bad item or lack of judgement on his behalf :-)
I really do hate sellers that have clearly lied. With that much corrosion there is no way they didn't know what happened. Keep up with the awesome videos Vince!!
Looks like this has been left outside in the rain overnight. Maybe a child had been playing on it in the garden and the parent found it outside the day after. Then sold it to Vince for an extortionate amount.
It is always a red flag when Ebay sellers say "sold as seen","no returns" or "no bad feedback accepted".
or "untested"
Videotubelord untested isn’t bad. I bought a z77 board that was untested and works fine. You just have to be careful who you buy from.
Its not that. They put that so if someone buys it and they thought it was working it saves them time shipping it back and stuff.
One thing I recommend: check the voltage on the power button line. It *should* be pulled up to 5v via the PMIC (Power Management Integrated Circuit). However, if there's a short somewhere, the PMIC will make sure to turn off all voltage outputs for safety (it can detect shorts through feedback circuits and knows safe/normal levels and will turn off quickly before damage can be done/made worse). If that is present, I would suggest seeing if the main 1.8v line comes on. This powers most devices in the Switch, and can be checked at the volume buttons, again, they should be pulled up to 1.8v so you should be able to see some voltage on them if the 1.8v line is working. If it does come on for a split second but then turn off, that means either the 1.8v line or some power line that comes on after it has a short or possibly a broken feedback circuit.
More tips: on badly water damaged devices you may not be able to get under the BGA chips easily (though, some BGA chips are really not that hard with a hot air gun, some solder balls, a stencil, some flux and patience), however, you can reflow them with flux, which will force some flux underneath the chip and this may help to clear any corrosion.
Take out the NAND (the little chip on the separate board near the screen connector) and plug into USB; this can kick you into RCM mode (recovery mode) and will tell you if it's something that hasn't been powered up yet or if it's something that's powered on by default
The small BGA chips near the processor with all of the larger components near them are voltage regulators for the CPU core voltage and the GPU core voltage. Measure voltages around that area. One is on whenever the processor is on, and one is configured later, so don't worry if you don't see anything in one area but do in the other.
You make comments about how it looks like it's been left for a long time, but this video highlights how little time it can take to corrode when there's electricity present: th-cam.com/video/FOgsjd5Uxt4/w-d-xo.html
Wow, I wish you filmed some TH-cam videos on this as I am sure they would help a ton of people out with knowledge on the Switch like that :-) I did have approx 2V on the top pin (from memory) on the ribbon cable that goes off to the power button and I think it comes back on the 2nd top pin (there was continuity when the power button was pressed). On the working switch I think I had 4.2 or 4.something volts. See the problem is because of lack of knowledge I am only checking the caps for shorts against ground so I don't know any other way to check for shorts. Amazingly this board didn't have any that I can see. But because I do not understand the series of events when you power up the Switch then I measure for voltage in different areas but it means nothing to me. I will try popping the NAND off to see if the PC recognises it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this.
Try using an ultrasonic cleaner on those corroded boards and then drying them with an ultraviolet lamp.
Why a UV lamp?
Air cooling boards without heat, may not adequately dry water from behind components and between chip legs, thus causing short circuits and damage to components. U.V. lamp is used to ensure that all moisture is dried away from the board. U.V. lamp is better for drying boards as it applies a uniform heating in a controlled gradual manner that doesn't cause thermal shock, it doesn't degrade the gloss of the conformal coating on the board as opposed to the using a hot air gun which can cause thermal shock to the board and its components and also degrades the gloss on the conformal coating. Degradation of the conformal coating may lead to further corrosion, broken traces or short circuits.
Do you mean infrared (heat) lamp?
You can use either a UV dryer UV curing machine for PCB or a UV nail polish curer.
It's a way to try and get it working (for a short time) multilayer boards with liquid damage are not repairable because corrosion will get between those layers and can't be cleaned, even with a ultrasonic cleaner. So yes it may work but it's never gonna be a solid fix for a long time. If you buy stuff like that fix it in a ultrasonic cleaner and sell it that way , you now know you sell crap!
Hi Vince if you read the comments. Just want to say your an absolute legend and a class guy. Love the gaming related videos btw
If they were using bath salts or some other additive to their bath water and dropped it in then it would definitely look like that after a few days. Same thing for a pool/hot tub or the ocean. Distilled water wouldn't cause much damage (possibly none) at all. Corrosion doesn't usually happen until it's exposed to the air (outside of a saline environment) and once it starts it needs to be cleaned off ASAP if you want to save the device because it will continue to grow along the traces and damage other chips. If you had a reflow oven that may bring it back to life but it's a crap shoot at this point. If you drop a device in water you need to power it off immediately if it is still on and disconnect the battery if possible. If you immediately clean it with IPA then it likely will be fine, but don't attempt to power it back on until all traces of moisture have been removed. If you just let it dry out but don't clean it it will likely work for a time but it will corrode and it will likely fail eventually (unless it was dropped into distilled or deionized water, which is pretty unlikely to happen by accident). I've used distilled water as a first step to clean corroded electronics before, followed up with IPA and electronics parts surface purifier. Sometimes they come back to life, sometimes they don't. You really need an ultrasonic cleaner to be sure you get all the corrosion, though.
Great info, thanks for sharing it :-)
Got real respect for you Vince. No way I’ve got the balls to tackle Switch repairs due to the expense and complexity.
Don't be too disheartened, Vince as some good fortune is bound to come your way as you definitely deserve some!
Can’t win them all Vince. Well done. Love the classic music in all your videos.
I admire your perseverance and meticulous approach. Also thumbs up for the civilized music to accompany your tinkering.
Awesome! Literally asked for another switch fix in the last video a couple hours ago and boom here it is 😍
Love your vids, Vince! You really gave it the ol' college try on this one. The seller is probably snickering while he watches this video. Let's hope that what comes around goes around.
I really admire your positive attitude, I would've thrown the thing across the room and cursed until I started owing TH-cam money.
Louis Rossman has a video where he demonstrates what happens with water and some sort of sugary drink on a board with power - which laptops and other battery powered devices practically always have when they get wet. You can literally watch contacts on chips and passive components get eaten away in mere minutes. Worth checking out.
Of course this one’s damage is something else - as you said it was probably submerged for quite some time.
What a shame =( Epic attempt to fix it though! I feel like you got conned there! One reason why its sometimes not worth the risk with expensive faulty systems like this on eBay. It was probably submerged for just a few seconds, but then the liquid sat in there and you see the results. It would probably take a few weeks to get to that state though I would think. As others have said - looks like salt water or chlorine water (pool). It has that kind of salty look to the corrosion.
Thank you Chris. Yeah, the corrosion reminds me of that hoverboard that also had liquid damage, looks very powdery. That is the risk you take when you buy spares or repair on eBay. They can sell whatever junk they like as they have said it is not working. I tried to get a part refund but in my opinion the seller is more concerned with money more than doing the right thing, you know the sort :-( Neg has been left as I believe dishonesty is at play. Could you check your emails for me please :-)
Your video production has improved quite a bit over the last year, great to see!
Thanks mate :-)
Put a working motherboard in it to see if the screen works
Not worth it imo.
That's not caused by bath at was either by the ocean or in a pool with chlorine
I would go with the pool, that was my first thought as it happens
He was peeing and fell into the toilet. Realized like 3 hours later. The whole family peed during this time as well. I dont know why it stopped working.
looks to me its been in a washing machine through a wash cycle
Hey Vince, really like the new camera set up. Looking forward to more videos!
Wow, you're making some really good progress in your hot-air rework skills. Nice!
Thank you :-)
Could you do a video on all of the Nintendo Switches you have bought and all the various problems and issues you have had, also if you can build a working one out of a couple of broken ones with your new knowledge and skills?
Even if you don't managed to fix this, you have mastered amazingly the art of fixing nintendo switch
IMHO, 120£ for a faulty console, is quite expensive. And why do people sell it, instead of use warranty, within 2 years from the purchase?
Not sure about the UK, but I wouldn't expect misuse/accidental damage to be covered by the manufacturer's standard warranty.
Hello Vince
I think you need ultrasonic cleaner it's help sometime for cleaning under smd and chips my tip for you
Indeed, I have a semi-pro Hilsonic 3MX for cleaning the moving parts of my Beretta Semi-auto 12g, 1 hour later sparkling clean trigger group and filthy black water... nice
@@amigaman9433 you are right most of the time all what you need for repairing water damage is only cleaning with ultrasonic but dont forget but dont forget to use it right its can be killer to for your board and smd's
Thanks. Any recommendations for a cheap Ultrasonic cleaner, maybe under £100. Would be nice if it could fit a PS4 or Xbox One board in it but I would settle for something smaller. Maybe the cheap ones are rubbish???? if you have any info or recommendations then I would be interested in hearing them. Many thanks, Vince :-)
@@Mymatevince
I just write ultrasonic cleaner in ebay and you will find alot of choice but it must have heating System and i think 10 litre or more will fit all kind of bord .Vince you really need before you order anything to know exactly how its working and watching louis rossman video talking about ultrasonic cleaner for macbook board or any board has help me alot .i wish for you luck and i will waiting your video talking about ultrasonic cleaner and how to use it 😊👍
@@midotechtips7449 Thank you sir :-)
yea....I'd be filing a claim on that....freakin' liars...
That’s the trouble with consoles,the non working ones are mostly owned by kids that don’t understand the meaning of money or looking after things until they have to get a job and buy their own stuff.
Great video as always Vince. To bad you did not make it work , but as you said experience gained so win win annyways
Man that is a huge bummer.
But your skills are seriously impressive!! You were replacing chips all over the place like it's nothing!
Haha, but did I do it correctly or not we will never know :-). I did gain a lot of experience on this one so in the long run hopefully it will pay off :-)
I reckon it’s been left out over night in the rain probably on a trampoline or something. Are there no mosfets or fuses to look at
Such a shame on that one vince but really good effort! For £120 while expensive at least you have a good amount of increased knowledge and confidence on these now!
Plus that much corrosion I bet someone has been playing it in the bath or dropped it in the sink. Dropped it in, switch has then died and then it has been attempted to take apart hence the couple of dodgy screws, failed that. And then ultimately left to corrode. With that much water and corrosion in there it’s unlikely it worked again once it had gotten that wet.
I bet a lot of components on that board are damaged, Traces damaged, contacts corroded etc. And while water damaged can be fixable, it’s usually not practical because of how much damage it can do as seen here.
If there’s current running through it at the time
Of coming in contact with the liquid it takes seconds to cause corrosion like this, also has a habit of killing resistors/capacitors and similar components
Thank you for always making videos vince I love your content so much!!
I think you found Jack and Roses Switch they left on the Titanic 😂 great vid as always Vince
I repaired mobile phones for along time and I had one similar come in. Long story short kid dropped it in pool and hid it from parents in his closet for a week. It never got dried off good and some water stayed in it for a few days to a week. Dad found it and it was a lost cause. Bummer man better luck next time.
That makes sense. Might have happened on holiday :-)
My best suggestion would be to leave the board soaking in 99% alcohol / acetone for a good half hour this method has worked for me previously on water damaged iphones.
Is any part of it still good? Screen, battery, WiFi card? Did a separate motherboard in the Titanic Switch do anything?
Hi, I haven't tested the battery or screen yet. Next time I have a working Switch apart I can pop the motherboard into the Titanic Switch and see what happens :-)
Quick question, new to electronic repairs here. I understand from the comments that you can use ultrasonic cleaners for liquid damage. But if the liquid damage is on a small patch on the board, what's the best thing to clean it up?
can you tell me what the thing is called that reads the power draw. (the thing plugged into the Power Bank) thanks
If you type USB power meter into Amazon you will find them. I don't know the proper name :-)
I love the irony of that "isn't nice isn't?" at every time to saw water damage :P
Ahoy my mate Vince, as always loved the vid, keep uploading. What I would like to tell you. First of all corrosion doesn't happen instantly. It takes times and current flow for it to be any hazzard. You can run nintendo switch in distilled water and it will be fine, but once you introduce minerals, boy then happy pixies have extra paths to go, and wrogs stuff starts to happen. In my opinion, this much corrosion is only possible if it was left on charge, (like hoping it will get zapped back to a reality). Another thing is that you have to get a untrasonic cleaner for this kindf of a damage, I use one in my lab and it makes a ton of difference. (be sure snap a pic of corosion before doing that, just to have some reference for really bad parts of the board). Soldering those QFN chips is not hard, but you have to get really good flux and basic microscope. I would love to take a look at it, Maybe it's still fixable. I work as a IT/Electronics Engineer so have some knowledge that could be used for reviving this puppy. Currently I'm working on my own channel that will be called RokasLab, and there I will be fixing and creating stuff, so I think you could really get a blast of a video out of this. Send it to me, I will pay any shipping cost, and then I will ship it back to you, either fixed, or just as you sent it to me. Will document any progress like your self and provide it to you for you videos. I would really like to try to solve this mystery. If you want to do this, please contact me: rokasraulinaitis@hotmail.com, or if just want to talk about repair and share knowledge, drop me a message.
best wishes mate!
And may the fixing gods be with you :DD
So looks like everything is destroyed no hope
Vince
At least the case is in good condition
U made my day mate :)
A good way to find shorts on boards like this is plug into power and add lighter fluid. Any shorts will either a heat up and be seen or b you will see the liquid moving
@MYMATEVINCE What's that blue pouch of tools you are using?
Tweezer set
Yeah, as Thomas correctly suggested it is a variety of small tweezers :-)
Another great video Vince shame it was not advertised correctly unfortunately it happens all the best have a great day
Thanks Paul :-)
I'm sure your well aware on how PayPal works but you could open an item not as described case you could return it and they'd have to pay the return postage
Great video. You should report the seller for a fraudulent listing. Its obviously been standing in water for quite some time. We can't allow these scammers to continue to get away with this.
Vince back again with another faulty Nintendo switch!!
Great job vince 👌🔥
Selling Nintendo switch: mint condition case. Some wear and tear but over all its looks good. Inside components not included
you can fully disassemble it and put PCBs and coroded parts in ultrasonic bath cleaner, this will wash it perfectly and shiny, just make sure you don't use conductive cleaner. You've put too much solder on the heat transfer pad under the chips and this can cause shorting on pins under the chip with pad
Thanks, a few viewers have mentioned the Ultra Sonic Cleaner. Do you know of any good ones for under £100 or the cheaper the better?
@@Mymatevince Sorry for long link and comment. Any one can do the job, it depends on cleaner you put, must be non conductive and suited for PCBs here is one similar to what i use in phone service -> www.aliexpress.com/item/Skymen-600ml-Digital-Mini-Ultrasonic-Bath-Jewelry-Watches-Dental-Ultrasonic-Cleaner/32820623996.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.14.5aa9514cafejyN&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_10_10065_10068_319_317_10696_10084_453_10083_454_10618_10304_10307_10820_10821_537_10302_536_10902_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_6,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=56f374de-fb50-4c48-aa91-da5ebc96efb4-5&algo_pvid=56f374de-fb50-4c48-aa91-da5ebc96efb4 After cleaning the board you should wash it and dry it good so no resedue left. No need to desolder parts. The corosion occured after the water dry inside, calcium and acid from some drinks can leave oxidising corosion like this, Coca cola make it even worse, when combined with electricity becomes electrolize with tin and coper.
Thanks for the link. I think I will order up a cheap one similar to your one and then get the correct cleaner for PCBs. Thanks again :-)
@@Mymatevince just make sure it has a big volume to fit PCBs
@@technixbul Thanks, I have my eye on a £75 6L one 6000ml. It won't fit the Xbox One or PS4 boards but it will do all the handhelds like the Switch etc. and they are probably more likely to get liquid damaged. I can also use it to try and fix up automatic watches. Thanks for the help on this :-)
Vince to clean the motherboard underneath the chips you must use an ultrasonic machine, you can buy one on eBay relatively cheap.
Thanks, I don't know anything about them. Do you have any recommendations?
My Mate VINCE - I know the crest ultrasonics is very good, but it's very expensive. You can always buy a cheaper one on eBay, It is important to pay attention to the size of the container, you need a relatively large size (the motherboar must be completely submerged in water), on supersonic clener it is enough to use distilled water and join a expecific fluid, then it is important to put the motherboard on IPA to eliminate the water it may contain and let it dry.
@@tiagomarques9997 Thanks for the tips. I think Louis Rossman has a video on the Crest version. I have to be a bit careful with money as it will not be getting used very often and I am also tight on space. I have bought a budget £75 6L one so it will do for the smaller handheld devices and watches etc. It won't fit an Xbox or PS4 board but hopefully it will be good for other items :-)
What is the gadget that reads the voltage and where can I get that and the Matt with the compartments, great video.
sad to see this one didnt come back on :( but your solder skills are awesome!
Thanks mate :-)
@@Mymatevince :o you replied! i've been watching your videos for months since you started repairing stuff on your carpet! Inspired me to start repair stuff on my own! Cheers mate!
Excellent. Thanks for the views and well done on attempting the repairs :-)
I'm no expert but it looks to be flood damage. Like it was in the flood water and was recovered after the waters subsided and the poor homeowner was allowed back in.. I don't see tap water doing something like that in a quick dip.
When are you going to do the Spectrum ?
what heat-gun are you using? i would like too do some repairs myself.
Just wonder whether a schematics and board view is available for the board - if so, I'd check few test points (voltages etc).
Unfortunately it wouldn't have to be in water very long to sustain this sort of damage and as a switch is slightly bigger and has more entery points than a phone water will easily and very quickly rush in. Also the quality of liquid it was submerged in plays a key role for instance had it been dropped in coke the damage would probably be slightly less. But bath water or tape water have many impurities that attack the solder and copper very quickly and would only need a small amount to get the results that you see on your board. Great video buddie
my guess is this particular switch was left outside in the garden overnight during rain, rain is actually quite acidic and a few hours with it coating the components will seriously corrode them, especially if it was just left sitting in the system for days/weeks
Hey Vince where do you find info on repairing NS? Bough couple joycons and have problem with one, posted already on ifixit, on reddit and on one of polish sites but zero interest. Also cant find any info on it. Do you have any sites or forums with active people who repair electronics and are kin on helping?
loving the music again Vince 😂
Thanks Lee :-)
What is that lovely haunting piano piece at the end, not sure if I missed where it was credited. Any help obliged.
@@alastair3107 Hi, Google Prelude in E Minor by Chopin :-)
@@Mymatevince ahh it's Chopin is it. Couldn't place it at all. Thank you for taking the time to reply. I really enjoy your videos. I would love you to do a video on your kit and give a review on what you would change about it if you had a chance. I think it would be really helpful for enthusiasts looking to get into the more intricate repairs. Just a suggestion, either way please keep up the great videos!
Take a look at Louis Rossman videos, tiny droplets of liquid can cause massive amounts of corrosion when voltage is applied, my guess is the switch was running while it was still wet and that's when the corrosion occurred.
I think that maybe because the switch has the air vents, if it was dropped in water for a few seconds, water could get inside it through there, and stay inside it for quite a while, which is what I think might have happened to this one. I’m not sure, but it’s a possibility.
That is true but as he somewhat hinted at and me sort of using the vent theory, if water would get in that way, surely it would come out fairly as easily as it went in. I may be wrong, but just my understanding / theory to debunk that reasoning.
Hi Vince. Good try to repair that Switch. I think the switch was taken to the bath i took a good "clean" in it -_-
if you buy faulty electronics off ebay do you ever ask the sellers some questions beforehand like "was the device opened before?", "was the device dropped into water or got any other fluid damage?" ? If those people doesnt want to answer such questions i would never buy anything from them. other than that, nice video! sorry for my poor english, many greetings from germany!
Thanks Tenjio79, I don't normally ask questions beforehand. If I like the look of an item I tend to just buy it. That is probably half my problem, if more research was done I could potentially get better items. No need to apologise for your English, it is very good :-)
It's still sometimes worth getting a water damaged device if you know what sort of faults to look for and can tell by the pictures. I just recently got a Switch (no joycons) for about £85, the listed fault was that it had been water damaged, been opened up and dried out carefully, still turns on but no longer detects the right joycon. I took a gamble, and as it turns out the water damage is absolutely minimal. The real cause of the right joycon fault is that they put the ribbon cable back in the wrong place, so it pulled tight and ripped off at the joycon end when they reassembled the Switch. Just £4 for a new side rail assembly and it's now working absolutely perfectly, though I may replace the digitizer and back cover because of scratches, and should probably clean up a bit more of the corrosion if I can just to be safe.
Thanks for sharing your experience :-)
That's looks like salt water liquid damage that's why you have so much trouble.
Instead of connecting it to the battery, use a lab power supply with 1Amp limited current to avoid further damage , if needed you can increase current up to 2Amps. Voltage can be set at 4.1V this way you can understand if the unit is responding or in short. You can also take measurements and make further analysis.
Take a voltage reading on those inductors in relation to GND see if voltage is present, some of them usually start disconnected but they at least should have voltage on the main mosfets
How many faulty Switches have you purchased?
Huzzzzsh!!! My new favorite TH-cam channel.
Maybe you could try and heat up every single component with a heatgun (high heat, low air), including the CPU/GPU/RAM?
Not speaking from experience, but I've seen (from your videos and others') that low airflow heatgunning won't blow small components straight off. As for the BGA-components, it could help to reflow them (unless it's so badly corroded that the ball-sockets are ruined).
If that doesn't work, you may as well take EVERY component off and get a good understanding of how bad the corrosion is underneath. It's going to make the whole Switch completely trashed... but right now, it's already trashed.
just a tip you can use contact spray for ribbon cables ends and i used before and had good result
Thanks for the tip and the recommendation to the TH-cam channel :-)
Wht is your model of multimeter ?
what portable charger is he using w/ the voltage tester?
Great video Vince ! - Looks like salt water to me with the rate of corrosion.
I would investigate the area where the power button ribbon connects to the motherboard via the zif lock mechanism test to see if there is anything coming from there, i have shorted out pins on a motherboard to start the system before now by the power button socket..
Another tip if you think there might have been water ingress on a system is the small square paper that will turn a solid colour located by the power socket on the motherboard ( usually red dots on white paper ) in your case it was a solid green corrosion colour ! :) THUMBS UP!
Before re-soldering stuff on one of those boards I would have taken a couple good pictures of both sides and thrown the board into an ultrasonic cleaner first then test it. If it didn't work after the ultrasonic I would have started changing parts out at that point. The USB-C Meter is helpful but I recommend getting a schematic and using a multimeter to test components.
Mate my heart sank when you showed all that corrosion , all that money for maybe a case and possibly a joy con . Do you know if the joy con works ?
Hi, the right joy-con appears to work fine but it hasn't been fully tested for rumble, IR and NFC, the left Joy-Con is dead but it might be repairable :-)
I physically cringed when the main board was removed. I am sorry you have such bad luck the with Nintendo Switch.
I enjoyed this video mate keep them coming as always :-)
Thanks mate :-)
From watching Louis Rossmann I've learned that that sort of liquid damage can happen in a few minutes, or just a few seconds if the console was turned on. Also it would take a while to dry out, giving it more time to corrode.
Is it really possible to turn on the switch without the game cartrige board ? Was thinking about no. Am i wrong ?
I feel you man, some sellers have no scruples... hopefully karma will catch up with them.
I managed to revive a 3ds that had massive water damage and mud inside. Scrub and rinse in water then, isopropyl. I was amazed when it powered up.
Also it may have been worth checking the fan, if it's jammed/broken it failing to spin may prevent boot.
Man, Switch's are so much harder to fix from a lot of repair videos I've seen, Nintendo really knows how to put together some complicated technology.
Love the vids, keepem coming 👍(btw at 2:10 what device is that you're using to check it drawing power and where can I get one?)
Got to hand it to you I love the way you will not be beaten, great effort but people are right loads of crooks on eBay, which if you fancy repairing my terrible attempt at replacing a screen on a Wii U controller let me know.
Vince you might know whats wrong my switch i bought off ebay works but not on the dock my other switch does what do you think is wrong
Would love to see you mail your lot of broken switxhes to tronics fix to see if he could get them going.
Looks to be seawater or chlorinated water , hot tub maybe ? Either will cause accelerated corrosion .
Greetings from hong kong . Nice job ! but I feel sad it just cant boot up. anyway, u win my repect!
gutted! The seller was definitely pulling your leg there. potentially still can use the good shell pieces and joycons? Hopefully the screen is alright too.
Thanks Elliot, he certainly was :-) Shell does look good. Haven't tested the screen yet. Right Joy-Con, case and charger all look fine so it is not all bad. You were unlucky with your capacitor changeout on the GameGear. Those glass screen covers look really nice though so the end product looks great.
You need a sonic bath. Set up a Gofundme, I'll chip in.
It’s not how long in the water but how long till dried out after getting wet.
Hello, Vince :)
That was a lot of corrosion, but next time You can just reflow corroded parts with flux, no need to take them out, flux should take care of corrosion :)
For corrosion like that I heard distilled vinegar works well
Ouch and great video as always
You could probably keep/reuse the casing, the gamecard reader (maybe?), sd card reader (maybe?), fan and heatsync/heatpipe would probably be usable if cleaned, that metal backplate heatspreader thing would probably be useable if cleaned, maybe the screen.
The motherboard is definitely not reusable obviously xD, and even if it works the eMMC (system storage) is useless as under most circumstances it is non-replaceable
It literally takes like 10min Louis rossmon literally did a video about dripping water on the chip on the MacBook Anica Road in like 5 to 10 minutes