Nasu becoming one of the most influential people not just in anime but also game industry, cus he just decided to make an eroge one day is really funny to me lol
So, when it comes to the Fate series, Nasu wrote Stay Night and everything else is a spin off written by a different author, but supervised by Nasu. Nasu is a really chill guy. He's always more than happy to let other writers use his universe to tell their own unique story. Hell, he becomes best buds with most of them. He quite literally tells them to fuck his canon and write the story in their style; It's Nasu who goes back and finds ways to implement their canon into his, whether it initially fits or not.
Just know that technically, Zero is in its own timeline due to some inconsistencies with Stay Night like Saber's character. The general story of Zero happened for Stay Night but the details are original
There's a part Nasu and Takeuchi's was not included in this. When Takeuchi got went to Tokyo and reunited with Nasu, they went into their usual hanging out routine, but Takeuchi had a one-on-one conversation with Nasu. Takeuchi wanted Nasu's work to be well known on public and told him him that he shouldn't be self-satisfied within his circle of friends and think seriously of his future and his talent. What he told shocked Nasu because he interpreted it as "What about you compared beautiful golden sunset." And rhis is when Nasu started to get serious on writing.
5:27. Kara no Kyoukai is the very first official work of Nasu and Type Moon. But the Nasuverse's first work is actually Mahoutsukai no Yoru/Witch on the Holy Night as Nasu wrote it first as a novel before the formation of the doujin circle. It was soon became a visual novel in 2012.
Fate/Stay Night consist of three story routes and has three main heroines that Shiro (MC) can romance. Fate Route - Saber Route (Deen/Stay Night) Unlimited Blade Works Route - Rin Route (Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works) Heaven’s Feel Route - Sakura Route (Fate/Stay Night: Heaven’s Feel Movie Trilogy)
Little correction: The first piece of novel that Nasu wrote aren't Kara no Kyoukai, it was Mahoutsukai no Yoru, which got adapted into a Visual Novel wayyyyy later and recently got picked up by ufotable KnK was actually the second
7:54 You should try to read Notes. It's a fairly short story but very melancholic and thought-provoking. Just to explain, Types are the names of some of the out-worldly entities in this story. There's Type-Venus, Type Mercury, Type-Saturn and many others based on the name of the planets. That's why the company is named Type-Moon as it is based on these monsters in this short story and they commerate Nasu's first story by naming their company based on the creature of this first work.
Watching fate zero before FSN(alll routes) is like watching no game no life zero before no game no life lol, yeah fate zero is a "prequel" but FSN is the beginning of everything including the main lore
@@Chronox-x8gUBW isn't that bad of an introduction though. While Zero's also a good introduction, it unfortunately has spoilers for Heaven's Feel. (Also regarding the Fate route, he's probably going to play the VN at some point anyway.)
I don't remember where I read that one of the creators said, "starting with Fate/Zero is like eating the main dish first," and thinking about it a little, it really is like that. The anime casually reveals the solutions to the mysteries left by the other Fate series. I'm not sure if it was one of the creators who said this, but I agree
Oh boy here come the comments. Its perfectly fine to start with Fate Zero and I loved watching it that way. If you want to watch it differently thats fine but the idea of trashing or making fun of starting with FZ first is so stupid. There are pros and cons to both
15:26 Apocrypha is written by Yuichiro Higashide. Who also wrote many chapters(also beloved by readers) in FGO, is one of the writers of Samurai Remnant, and also the writer of the Date A Live's Kurumi spin-off, Date A Bullet. Zero is written by Gen Urobochi who also wrote he Zero collab and Lostbelt 3 chapter of FGO(as a guest writer). He wrote Saya no Uta, Madoka Magica, Psycho-Pass, Kamen Rider Gaim, and Thunderbolt Fantasy. FGO have many writers. Both the main and guest writers(which also changes as the years goes by). Currently, the main writers of FGO are: -Higashide -Hikaru Sakurai(also wrote Fate/Protoype Fragment of Sky Silver and Fate/Lost Einherjar, and one of the writers of Fate/Samurai Remnant) -Meteo Hoshizora(also writer of Fate/Requiem) -And Nasu while also supervising them For guest writers, some of the credited ones are: -Jin Haganeya(writer of the VN, Demonbane) -Ryohgo Narita(Durarara, Baccano, Fate/Strange Fake, and Dead Mount Death Play) -Makoto Sanda(writer of the spin offs, Case Files of Lord El Melloi II, and it's sequel, Adventures of Lord El Melloi II) -Ukyo Kodachi(Boruto) -And last but not the least, Koushi Tachibana(Date A Live and King's Proposal)
@@Exalter06 Sadly, we don't know. But he's been credited in the official site as one for like 6 years. Not surprised if he wrote some comedy events tho
@@brotheris33 I could only put so much. Hiroshi Hiroyama is great and Prillya is one of the best Fates of all time, but pretty sure he only wrote in FGO once and it's the collab. Type Redline is written by Ryoji Hirano and is not credited as a guest writer on FGO.
17:13 fun fact about mordred it is literally canon that he is the futanari baby of King Arthur as in order to produce an heir Merlin used magic to make him grow a dingaling so he could do the deed with his wife the queen however the deed didn’t work as Morgan le fay stole da seed for herself making mordred their child the illegitimate child which is why he has daddy issues. Also the reason mordred was treated as a “son” despite being a girl was because Arthur’s heir was always going to be a girl but treated as a boy both because the heir “had” to be male, but even with Merlin’s magic shaft maker king Arthur and his wife still both had only two X chromosome so they could never get a Y chromosome in the mix… fate lore is wacky 😵💫
I was introduced to Fate via Learning with Manga lol, but then the first Fate anime that I watched was Apocrypha then, Carnival Phantasm while playing FGO but still until today, I'm thirsting for more Fate content.
7:40 Originally, the doujin circle is called "Takebouki" before Type Moon. 7:47 Type Moon's name is based on a characters name. Angel Notes is Nasu's short story and the Nasuverse's third official work. Nasu weote it as he was requested to write a story about Angels, and I'm pretty sure this is inspired by both Evangelion and Trigun.
16:33 It's perfectly fine to start with Fate/Zero, if we are talking about the anime. It would be different if it was the Fate/Stay Night visual novel (and you didn't know anything about the story and the characters), but the anime of Unlimited Blade Works (which is one of the "routes" of Fate/Stay Night) is made to be basically a sequel to the anime of Fate/Zero, despite the fact that the original light novel of Fate/Zero was written (by Urobuchi) as a prequel to the original visual novel of Fate/Stay Night.
Thank you, most people when having the "what to watch first" argument and recommending UBW forget that Ufotable absolutely assumed people would be watching UBW after watching Zero, since Zero came out several years before and they were basically ignoring the Deen FSN. The Ufotable animes should really be considered their own separate version of events more often.
Tsukihime Remake is pretty good. Even the metacritic scores gave it a 94 and 89. 89 on switch because it has a bit of a problem i guess. It has problems loading the Images because it's too high quality. It crashes if you hit fast forward too much.
Objectively correct Fate watch-order is Deen's 2006 FSN < UBW < HF < Zero, but 2006 FSN is a poopoo adaptation so you should... PROBABLY start with Zero, even if it spoils aspects of UBW and HF, its way better than starting UBW which presumes you already know the basics from 2006. Zero atleast tries to explain what's happening in a way that newbies can understand, disregarding any writing issues or continuity problems (Kirei, Saber)
At that point you’d be better off just watching the first episode and dropping it afterwards or just raw dogging it with ubw because if I’m gonna be honest most people who watch the fate anime rarely actually pay attention to how the magic system works so it doesn’t matter
In Japan Doujinshi means self published work. But here, most of us outside japan, I guess we can agree, we call it Hentai 😂 because most doujinshi's are hentai anyway. Tbh.
The fate spin off writers Fate/Zero Gen Urobuchi Fate/ stange Fake Ryogo Narita Fate/ Apocrypha Yuichiro Higashide Fate/type red line Ryoji Hirano Fgo a verity of many other authors! The list goes on but it’s to long! Yeah these other authors were amazed by Nasu unique writing that they even made their own fate spin-off and prequels and so on, approved by Nasu of course.
Fate Grand Order had a different writer, and it was shit. The game was a complete cash grab and was supposed to die along with other dead gacha games. But then Nasu was like "Hol up, lemme just do one chapt-" And then boom, the fucking game was on the top charts, Nasu is now the lead writer, the game still had shit quality but the story itself carried it so hard it was still topping in today.
I would recommend watching FSN first. Spoilers don't matter because both FSN and Zero spoil each other. Also according to what i heard , even creators themself recommended to watch FSN first over Zero, whinch makes sense, because there are many fundamental things that were explained with more detail there so starting with Zero can be confusing
1. Fate Zero (2011) 2. Fate Zero Season 2 (2012) 3. Fate Stay Night (2006) 4. Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works (2014) 5. Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Season 2 (2015) 6. Fate/Stay Night: Heaven's Feel I (2017) 7. Fate/Stay Night: Heaven's Feel II (2019) 8. Fate/Stay Night: Heaven's Feel III (2020) 9. Fate/Apocrypha (2017) 10. Fate/Extra: Last Encore (2018) 11. Fate/Extra: Last Encore Season 2 (2018) 12. Fate/Grand Order: First Order (2016) 13. Fate/Grand Order: Shinsei Entaku Ryouiki Camelot (2020) 14. Fate/Grand Order: Shinsei Entaku Ryouiki Camelot 2 (2021) 15. Fate/Grand Order: Absolute Demonic Front Babylonia (2020) 16. Fate/Grand Order: Shuukyoku Tokuiten- Kani Jikan Shinden Solomon (2021) 17. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya (2013) 18. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 2wei (2014) 19. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 2wei Herz (2015) 20. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 3rei (2016)21. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 3rei: Sekka no Chikai (2017) 22. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 3rei: Licht - Namae no Nai Shoujo (2021) (1-8) Main story 9- spinoff (10-11) different timeline (12-16) not related to main story, but important to watch (17-22) different timeline, but related to main story (3), (4+5), (6+7+8) these are three routes... At first, you'll think that those 3 are the same.. But don't skip, those are different from each other
If you start reacting to Nasu verse stuff or at least Fate, then you won't be running out of content in years. The Nasu verse as a whole is amazing and I hope you enjoy the ride into hell.
Nasu becoming one of the most influential people not just in anime but also game industry, cus he just decided to make an eroge one day is really funny to me lol
@@anujmane2005Not really
Compared to the others
Ngl, many of modern series for the past few years, if they're not inspired by the Big Three, they're inspired by either Nasu, or Kamen Rider Ryuki
@@anujmane2005seethe harder middle schooler
@@miteigi8334 also Monogatari/NisiOisiN
@@foultarnished3134 Yeah, but pretty sure it's also inspired by Tsukihime so it roots back to the shroom.
So, when it comes to the Fate series, Nasu wrote Stay Night and everything else is a spin off written by a different author, but supervised by Nasu. Nasu is a really chill guy. He's always more than happy to let other writers use his universe to tell their own unique story. Hell, he becomes best buds with most of them. He quite literally tells them to fuck his canon and write the story in their style; It's Nasu who goes back and finds ways to implement their canon into his, whether it initially fits or not.
So it's kind of like SCP foundation?
Nasu also wrote Hollow Ataraxia himself
@@Jalter07 pretty much
More like work his ass off with tsukihime after writing mahoyo and then said you know what? lets make another eroge xd
@@foultarnished3134 not all, the ecchi scenes were written by a different writer (that's how it's better than fsn h scenes) uhmm
Just know that technically, Zero is in its own timeline due to some inconsistencies with Stay Night like Saber's character. The general story of Zero happened for Stay Night but the details are original
For reference tsukihime was relatively huge. Fsn then blew it out of the water
There's a part Nasu and Takeuchi's was not included in this.
When Takeuchi got went to Tokyo and reunited with Nasu, they went into their usual hanging out routine, but Takeuchi had a one-on-one conversation with Nasu. Takeuchi wanted Nasu's work to be well known on public and told him him that he shouldn't be self-satisfied within his circle of friends and think seriously of his future and his talent. What he told shocked Nasu because he interpreted it as "What about you compared beautiful golden sunset." And rhis is when Nasu started to get serious on writing.
5:27. Kara no Kyoukai is the very first official work of Nasu and Type Moon. But the Nasuverse's first work is actually Mahoutsukai no Yoru/Witch on the Holy Night as Nasu wrote it first as a novel before the formation of the doujin circle. It was soon became a visual novel in 2012.
Fate/Stay Night consist of three story routes and has three main heroines that Shiro (MC) can romance.
Fate Route - Saber Route (Deen/Stay Night)
Unlimited Blade Works Route - Rin Route (Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works)
Heaven’s Feel Route - Sakura Route (Fate/Stay Night: Heaven’s Feel Movie Trilogy)
Fate zero light novel was written by gen urobuchi, the one and only urobutcher.
Oh stay night fans are still salty cause their saber got slapped around in that timeline ( I'm one of them)
@@cuongquan1633 It's more that people think it's a direct prequel to F/SN when in reality it's not really one at all.
Little correction: The first piece of novel that Nasu wrote aren't Kara no Kyoukai, it was Mahoutsukai no Yoru, which got adapted into a Visual Novel wayyyyy later and recently got picked up by ufotable
KnK was actually the second
7:54 You should try to read Notes. It's a fairly short story but very melancholic and thought-provoking. Just to explain, Types are the names of some of the out-worldly entities in this story. There's Type-Venus, Type Mercury, Type-Saturn and many others based on the name of the planets. That's why the company is named Type-Moon as it is based on these monsters in this short story and they commerate Nasu's first story by naming their company based on the creature of this first work.
Watching fate zero before FSN(alll routes) is like watching no game no life zero before no game no life lol, yeah fate zero is a "prequel" but FSN is the beginning of everything including the main lore
Yeah, I kinda agree. It's like watching the star wars prequels before the og trilogy
@@Riu97jbwell there is not a good fsn anime so you start from f/zero there no way you are starting from fsn unlimited blade work
@@Chronox-x8gUBW isn't that bad of an introduction though. While Zero's also a good introduction, it unfortunately has spoilers for Heaven's Feel. (Also regarding the Fate route, he's probably going to play the VN at some point anyway.)
I don't remember where I read that one of the creators said, "starting with Fate/Zero is like eating the main dish first," and thinking about it a little, it really is like that. The anime casually reveals the solutions to the mysteries left by the other Fate series. I'm not sure if it was one of the creators who said this, but I agree
Oh boy here come the comments. Its perfectly fine to start with Fate Zero and I loved watching it that way. If you want to watch it differently thats fine but the idea of trashing or making fun of starting with FZ first is so stupid. There are pros and cons to both
14:27 Iirc, Tsukihime inspired many authors and their works, like Ryukishi07(When They Cry series), and Nisio Isin(Zaregoto and Monogatari)
In the Nasuverse Type is the ultimate being of a particular celestial body, so Type Moon is the strongest being of the Moon.
15:26 Apocrypha is written by Yuichiro Higashide. Who also wrote many chapters(also beloved by readers) in FGO, is one of the writers of Samurai Remnant, and also the writer of the Date A Live's Kurumi spin-off, Date A Bullet.
Zero is written by Gen Urobochi who also wrote he Zero collab and Lostbelt 3 chapter of FGO(as a guest writer). He wrote Saya no Uta, Madoka Magica, Psycho-Pass, Kamen Rider Gaim, and Thunderbolt Fantasy.
FGO have many writers. Both the main and guest writers(which also changes as the years goes by).
Currently, the main writers of FGO are:
-Higashide
-Hikaru Sakurai(also wrote Fate/Protoype Fragment of Sky Silver and Fate/Lost Einherjar, and one of the writers of Fate/Samurai Remnant)
-Meteo Hoshizora(also writer of Fate/Requiem)
-And Nasu while also supervising them
For guest writers, some of the credited ones are:
-Jin Haganeya(writer of the VN, Demonbane)
-Ryohgo Narita(Durarara, Baccano, Fate/Strange Fake, and Dead Mount Death Play)
-Makoto Sanda(writer of the spin offs, Case Files of Lord El Melloi II, and it's sequel, Adventures of Lord El Melloi II)
-Ukyo Kodachi(Boruto)
-And last but not the least, Koushi Tachibana(Date A Live and King's Proposal)
Hollup Koushi Tachibana also writes for FGO!? Do you know which part he wrote by any chance?
@@Exalter06 Sadly, we don't know. But he's been credited in the official site as one for like 6 years. Not surprised if he wrote some comedy events tho
Damn no love and mention for prism Ilya and redline?
@@brotheris33 I could only put so much. Hiroshi Hiroyama is great and Prillya is one of the best Fates of all time, but pretty sure he only wrote in FGO once and it's the collab. Type Redline is written by Ryoji Hirano and is not credited as a guest writer on FGO.
@@brotheris33 Prisma Illya and Type Redline are pretty tbh, if only they would update more consistently lol
17:13 fun fact about mordred it is literally canon that he is the futanari baby of King Arthur as in order to produce an heir Merlin used magic to make him grow a dingaling so he could do the deed with his wife the queen however the deed didn’t work as Morgan le fay stole da seed for herself making mordred their child the illegitimate child which is why he has daddy issues. Also the reason mordred was treated as a “son” despite being a girl was because Arthur’s heir was always going to be a girl but treated as a boy both because the heir “had” to be male, but even with Merlin’s magic shaft maker king Arthur and his wife still both had only two X chromosome so they could never get a Y chromosome in the mix…
fate lore is wacky 😵💫
i don't care what the order is, i started with fate kaleid liner prisma ilya and still did fine
This is what happened to me but I didn't know about the whole spin offs and stuff until 2 years later lol
I was introduced to Fate via Learning with Manga lol, but then the first Fate anime that I watched was Apocrypha then, Carnival Phantasm while playing FGO but still until today, I'm thirsting for more Fate content.
7:40 Originally, the doujin circle is called "Takebouki" before Type Moon.
7:47 Type Moon's name is based on a characters name. Angel Notes is Nasu's short story and the Nasuverse's third official work. Nasu weote it as he was requested to write a story about Angels, and I'm pretty sure this is inspired by both Evangelion and Trigun.
Can you also react to gigguk explaining the fate timeline. There were no spoilers in that video
There's also the first fate video he made
No Gigguk sucks a it he barely qualifies as a casual Fan. The only reliable Type-Moon youtubers are Tsahi and otakudaikun.
pls don't
No. Just no. He is horrible at explaining anything TM related
nah not that garbage
We walking into the fate rabbit hole with this one 🗣🔥🔥🔥(i went down into it 8 months ago and did not regret it 🗿)
7:44 please don’t ask about my the moon god dammit 😖. lol
16:33 It's perfectly fine to start with Fate/Zero, if we are talking about the anime.
It would be different if it was the Fate/Stay Night visual novel (and you didn't know anything about the story and the characters), but the anime of Unlimited Blade Works (which is one of the "routes" of Fate/Stay Night) is made to be basically a sequel to the anime of Fate/Zero, despite the fact that the original light novel of Fate/Zero was written (by Urobuchi) as a prequel to the original visual novel of Fate/Stay Night.
Thank you, most people when having the "what to watch first" argument and recommending UBW forget that Ufotable absolutely assumed people would be watching UBW after watching Zero, since Zero came out several years before and they were basically ignoring the Deen FSN. The Ufotable animes should really be considered their own separate version of events more often.
nasu wrote fate stay night, its direct sequel hollow ataraxia, extra, extra ccc, some parts of fgo
Time to walk into hell with us caw!!
Tsukihime Remake is pretty good. Even the metacritic scores gave it a 94 and 89.
89 on switch because it has a bit of a problem i guess. It has problems loading the Images because it's too high quality. It crashes if you hit fast forward too much.
I like tsukihime the most in nasuverse.
How bold to play FGO without reading stories
thumbnail Shiki Ryougi my beloved
if you get into Fate, you can farm Tsiah IV soooo muuuuuch
Objectively correct Fate watch-order is Deen's 2006 FSN < UBW < HF < Zero, but 2006 FSN is a poopoo adaptation so you should... PROBABLY start with Zero, even if it spoils aspects of UBW and HF, its way better than starting UBW which presumes you already know the basics from 2006. Zero atleast tries to explain what's happening in a way that newbies can understand, disregarding any writing issues or continuity problems (Kirei, Saber)
At that point you’d be better off just watching the first episode and dropping it afterwards or just raw dogging it with ubw because if I’m gonna be honest most people who watch the fate anime rarely actually pay attention to how the magic system works so it doesn’t matter
There's a Gigguk vid "trying" to explain fate and its content to milk.
👍
Just start with the Fate/stay night visual novel. It literally says it's the starting point in the steam page.
Fate let's go
I don't care about the watch order as long as you didn’t start with heaven feel its good for me hell my first fate is fate/extra from psp
In Japan Doujinshi means self published work.
But here, most of us outside japan, I guess we can agree, we call it Hentai 😂 because most doujinshi's are hentai anyway. Tbh.
The fate spin off writers
Fate/Zero Gen Urobuchi
Fate/ stange Fake Ryogo Narita
Fate/ Apocrypha Yuichiro Higashide
Fate/type red line Ryoji Hirano
Fgo a verity of many other authors!
The list goes on but it’s to long! Yeah these other authors were amazed by Nasu unique writing that they even made their own fate spin-off and prequels and so on, approved by Nasu of course.
Tsukihime is a female ver in mc kara no Kyoukai. If you want to know about knowledge, i recommend full Kara no Kyoukai 💕
Do fate series reaction let goo❤️
Fate Grand Order had a different writer, and it was shit. The game was a complete cash grab and was supposed to die along with other dead gacha games.
But then Nasu was like "Hol up, lemme just do one chapt-"
And then boom, the fucking game was on the top charts, Nasu is now the lead writer, the game still had shit quality but the story itself carried it so hard it was still topping in today.
I would recommend watching FSN first. Spoilers don't matter because both FSN and Zero spoil each other. Also according to what i heard , even creators themself recommended to watch FSN first over Zero, whinch makes sense, because there are many fundamental things that were explained with more detail there so starting with Zero can be confusing
Yeah fate/zero is a good place to start getting in to the franchise
1. Fate Zero (2011)
2. Fate Zero Season 2 (2012)
3. Fate Stay Night (2006)
4. Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works (2014)
5. Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works Season 2 (2015)
6. Fate/Stay Night: Heaven's Feel I (2017)
7. Fate/Stay Night: Heaven's Feel II (2019)
8. Fate/Stay Night: Heaven's Feel III (2020)
9. Fate/Apocrypha (2017)
10. Fate/Extra: Last Encore (2018)
11. Fate/Extra: Last Encore Season 2 (2018)
12. Fate/Grand Order: First Order (2016)
13. Fate/Grand Order: Shinsei Entaku Ryouiki Camelot (2020)
14. Fate/Grand Order: Shinsei Entaku Ryouiki Camelot 2 (2021)
15. Fate/Grand Order: Absolute Demonic Front Babylonia (2020)
16. Fate/Grand Order: Shuukyoku Tokuiten- Kani Jikan Shinden Solomon (2021)
17. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya (2013)
18. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 2wei (2014)
19. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 2wei Herz (2015)
20. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 3rei (2016)21. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 3rei: Sekka no Chikai (2017)
22. Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 3rei: Licht - Namae no Nai Shoujo (2021)
(1-8) Main story
9- spinoff
(10-11) different timeline
(12-16) not related to main story, but important to watch
(17-22) different timeline, but related to main story
(3), (4+5), (6+7+8) these are three routes... At first, you'll think that those 3 are the same.. But don't skip, those are different from each other
If you start reacting to Nasu verse stuff or at least Fate, then you won't be running out of content in years. The Nasu verse as a whole is amazing and I hope you enjoy the ride into hell.