Big Bench WITHOUT Benching? Here's How.

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  • @jtsandig
    @jtsandig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +365

    I started doing weighted dips back in college because all of the benches were constantly taken, the movement is no joke and the gains are too real. super underrated movement

    • @ronburgandy7571
      @ronburgandy7571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Do you only do weighted dips instead of bench?

    • @jtsandig
      @jtsandig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@ronburgandy7571 yeah I don't own a bench. I do ohp and I started doing landmine press to get more upper pec gains since dips are quite lower/mid pec dominant. I haven't benched in over a year.

    • @ronburgandy7571
      @ronburgandy7571 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jtsandig ill have to look up a landline press. I’ve never heard of it.

    • @tommydreamer101
      @tommydreamer101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @jordan Standig same for me, my college gym had one rack and for every thing and it was always taken so I started doing dips instead

    • @MentalGains
      @MentalGains 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      So true, I didn't bench for 6 months. Just did weighted dips and my bench blew up quick while losing weight.

  • @DrSwole
    @DrSwole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +870

    Shoutout to everyone who wishes their OHP was stronger lol

    • @nathan4243
      @nathan4243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If you have the mobility, doing the btn press has helped me a lot with the main ohp.

    • @TheNetrunner_
      @TheNetrunner_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@nathan4243 too risky tbh

    • @nathan4243
      @nathan4243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@TheNetrunner_ Just like anything else, form is key. But if you go into anything with doubts, nothing will change.

    • @sourikray1997
      @sourikray1997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The best I can do... is 10reps with the bar😔

    • @garrettbaratheon567
      @garrettbaratheon567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I lost all kinds of overhead press strength out of nowhere and can’t get it back... I swear I blink and I lose 40 lbs on my presses :(

  • @ArGPaBloSaR
    @ArGPaBloSaR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Legit. Did 185 for 3 reps on OHP before ever hitting 225 on bench. Then learned to bench properly and got 260 bench for 3 reps in one month.

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      That's CRAZYYYYY MAN!

    • @ArGPaBloSaR
      @ArGPaBloSaR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@AlexLeonidas OHP movement always made more sense to my brain than bench, so I sticked with it. But once I got bench form down, weights that I used to struggle with started flying. Now I'm focusing on pec development which is my weakest link in the bench press.

    • @DDB-91
      @DDB-91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same here. I strict ohp 92.5kg before I benched 100kg lmao. My bench is awful, it's something I'm just not very good at even with great form, great training methods etc. Yet my ohp strength has always been a natural gift even from day one of training.

    • @Jnikola97
      @Jnikola97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DDB-91 same man, bench is my weakest lift at 105kg xD

    • @Phi_LongHo
      @Phi_LongHo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wtf

  • @markymarkeaton
    @markymarkeaton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Micha Schulz is another great example of a weighted calisthenics athlete who can hit a fairly big bench for not training it much. Competes in weighted dip competitions and benched 145kg after doing Planche work

    • @rodrigodelgado4766
      @rodrigodelgado4766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That dude trains bench regardless of what he tells ppl. I just saw the vid bc I'm always interested in those types of stories. His technique is almost impeccable, you don't achieve that just with general strength but practicing the movement. Bench is probably one of the lifts in which technique deteriorates the fastest

    • @Wiizardii
      @Wiizardii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Then again, you could make the case that an optimal test of carry-over strength from non-benching movements to benching requires atleast a few weeks of doing the bench itself, to get the technique down. It's still a legit showcase of carryover because you don't get super strong in a few weeks. I'm sure Micha didn't do heavy benching for months on end before attempting 145kg.

    • @rodrigodelgado4766
      @rodrigodelgado4766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Wiizardii still. I think what this guy does is using bench as an accesory to dips, instead of the other way around. I know this bc I do it myself. His technique is to crisp for me to believe that he just peaked after a few weeks of benching. I'm not saying the carry over isn't there but for sure it's not just carry over without training the lift

    • @Wiizardii
      @Wiizardii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Valid point

    • @popcornto6032
      @popcornto6032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@rodrigodelgado4766 Bench isn't a technical lift unless you're arching to the max and using a max width grip.
      I bench with a medium-close Grip, and even after 18+ months of only Pushups, whenever I occasionally go to a gym when a friend invites me, ie once every few months, I have perfect form.
      Recently I broke my Rep PR for 100Kg on Paused Bench, went from 5 reps to 10 reps. Before this session, 7 months no Gym, only Push-up variations and weighted Pushups as my Chest exercises.
      Once you learn the form, it never goes away, it's like riding a bike, of course barring a long layoff where you stop training anything at all (which isn't the case in Calisthenics athletes). 😊

  • @stelliumeleven2889
    @stelliumeleven2889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    You always provide content that is extremely relevant to the general trainee , especially during this time. With limited equipment

  • @lolfirepoisonftl
    @lolfirepoisonftl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Alex is spot on with this! When I injured my AC joint, I pretty much had to stick with OHP (oddly didn't hurt my AC), Floor Presses and Weighted Close and Reverse Grip Push Ups. It took months but my AC joint finally got better and I broke past a bench plateau that I previously had. Strength is strength!

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Now that's what's up!!

  • @collegegymgains1012
    @collegegymgains1012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Finally, someone who knows about Bill Starr. I have his Strength Training for Football book. That guy provided better information than 90% of people in the fitness industry, even by today's standards.

    • @EnkiriElite
      @EnkiriElite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Only the strongest shall survive! Bill starr was one of my idols as well!

    • @collegegymgains1012
      @collegegymgains1012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EnkiriElite Yeah, exactly what I'm talking about. I'm fortunate to have two copies of that book since it's nearly impossible to find for a reasonable price these days. It's going for upwards of $300/400 these days.

  • @NLLeFa
    @NLLeFa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Never been a fan of regular benching myself. Always found it weird for my built and I'm pretty obsessed with shoulders so I focused on OHP and dips for pushing movements over the last 2 years. Results have been insane in terms of aesthetics, but also my bench has gotten so much stronger than the last time I did it. I only test it once in a while to see where I'm at and I'm at a good level for somebody who doesn't bench at all. Not even dumbells which I liked in the past. Heavy weighted dips and OHP really builds your body for one, but also gives you that general strength to go with it.

    • @Ac-he1mg
      @Ac-he1mg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to do something similar. Do you have pictures of the progress that I can see?

    • @NLLeFa
      @NLLeFa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ac-he1mg Well, I have pics from when I started and today, but those are not appropriate for comparison between dips and bench. I started training long ago.

    • @gtrrohit5078
      @gtrrohit5078 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      well this is a relief for me because everytime I bench the wrist pain just feels really uncomfortable and for some reason doing OHP instead does not aggravate pain to such a great extent.

  • @regentlouis3678
    @regentlouis3678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    1.) OHP
    2.) Weighted Dips
    3.) Floor Press
    Bonus: add at least one tricep extension per workout.

    • @Jay-we2ek
      @Jay-we2ek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd say, only tricep isolations needed are overhead ones or a pulldown with your elbows behind you. (long head stuff)

    • @Jay-we2ek
      @Jay-we2ek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think all other tricep mass can be got by pressing or some form of dip.

    • @warriorstrength6797
      @warriorstrength6797 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, weighted push ups

    • @ΚΑΤΑΣΤΡΟΦΕΑΣΜΠΛΕΝΗΣΙΩΝ
      @ΚΑΤΑΣΤΡΟΦΕΑΣΜΠΛΕΝΗΣΙΩΝ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@warriorstrength6797yes it’s good

  • @kylejarmolych
    @kylejarmolych 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    When I had a very minor pec strain I stopped benching entirely and got my dumbbell overhead press from 55 lb db’s for 6 reps up to 75 lb dumbbells for 6. My bench before the strain was 225 for 5, afterwards recovering and no training chest for 3 months I got 225 for 8. Alex is spot on right here.

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's awesome man!!

    • @kylejarmolych
      @kylejarmolych 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AlexLeonidas thanks. My decision to emphasize OHP in that time was solely thanks to your videos. Keep up the great content, man.

    • @rafaeldutra7739
      @rafaeldutra7739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man, HOW did you manage to improve your dB shoulder press so much in only 3 months?
      I'm stuck on the 55 lbs dB for 2 months.

    • @kylejarmolych
      @kylejarmolych 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rafaeldutra7739 I think my potential was suffering because I would always do OHP after bench when my front delts were already gassed out. My best guess is that they were stronger than I had previously thought but never gave them the time of day. Thus, by training them hard and as my only pushing movement I got some decent strength gains.

    • @rafaeldutra7739
      @rafaeldutra7739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kylejarmolych Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

  • @omarmamood3256
    @omarmamood3256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Great tips as usual! Please do another one for squat and deadlift.

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Definitely will!

    • @ajithsidhu7183
      @ajithsidhu7183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlexLeonidas hi can you do one on how to build size with only bodyweights

  • @tommydreamer101
    @tommydreamer101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I focused on weighted calisthenics for most of the pandemic, I built up to 135 “3 plates” for 5 on weighted dips. The other day I was squatting and realized it’d been a year since I had done barbell OHP, I repped 135 out for 11 and more in the tank, my shoulders are stronger than they’ve ever been and I do zero overhead pressing just weighted dips. To me the weighted dip is the greatest press of all time, building up chest shoulders triceps to maximum levels, while having carry over to all other presses. A couple years ago I was working a job that had me on the road living in hotels, I would go to the hotel gyms and do hundreds of dips, I would come home every other weekend and hit incline bench prs lol to me the dip/weighted dip is one of the greatest lifts of all time

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Now that's amazing!!

    • @adeelliftsstuff
      @adeelliftsstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got a 80kg OHP first time from just weighted dips too

    • @thelastemplar165
      @thelastemplar165 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the best acessory for weighted Dips???

    • @tommydreamer101
      @tommydreamer101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      BigDaddy tbh I was doing mostly just dips, weighted dips and push ups, pause bench and weighted dips go hand and hand though

    • @thelastemplar165
      @thelastemplar165 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommydreamer101 Thanks man

  • @josephbenuzzi159
    @josephbenuzzi159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly I've watched a couple of your videos lately and man, you are basically the GOAT at making fitness videos.

  • @alihk2290
    @alihk2290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Alex idk if u will see this Tbh man, thank you so much for giving me so much knowledge for free that has helped me so much in my journey. I can express nothing but gratitude. Please keep doing what your doing and never stop.❤️

  • @Matt-ej1mb
    @Matt-ej1mb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    That's why calisthenic is so underrated. With basic or no equipment you can reach advanced level of strenght. Imagine doing Full or Pseudo Planche Pushups and 45 down pushups, bro, i talk for experience. Your dips will be insane and that by default guarantee a strong bench

    • @tvhead7074
      @tvhead7074 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The reason calisthenics is underrated is because it can’t be marketed. How are they gonna sell you your own bodyweight? Only thing I can think is gymnastic rings but that is nothing in comparison to the amount of equipment that can be sold to you with free weight stuff.

    • @user-zq6wx4zo9y
      @user-zq6wx4zo9y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tvhead7074 it needs more coaching than other stuff though.

    • @showrobber
      @showrobber 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah especially high Rep calisthenics is underrated as fck. The Most ppl say thats endurance, but it's pure strength.

    • @iliveinsideyourhouse3943
      @iliveinsideyourhouse3943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tvhead7074
      I guess calisthenics is for minimalist broke people likes me lol

    • @iliveinsideyourhouse3943
      @iliveinsideyourhouse3943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@unnaturalatrophy5377
      Weird how calisthenics is not that popular in my country, a small southeast Asia country. In here, the fitness trend is riding bicycle, which cost a lots of money lol.

  • @burritodog3634
    @burritodog3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    perfect video. my stupid gym taped off all the bench presses for social distancing

    • @ArminEghdamiDrums
      @ArminEghdamiDrums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wtf. Thats so stupid

    • @brandon6101
      @brandon6101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm thankful to live in Texas where only the clowns wear masks to signal their virtue and rest of state is completely scamdemic free. Gyms have been open for almost an entire year now. I'm truly sorry to all of you gym brothers and sisters.

    • @hannibalwantsahuggrande3433
      @hannibalwantsahuggrande3433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@brandon6101 you are lucky dude. I live in Canada, land Of the brain dead sheep......

  • @leakimc
    @leakimc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love your style of videos, informative and straight to the point.

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks Mikael, real recognize 👊

    • @KingAdjust
      @KingAdjust 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AlexLeonidas Great video, I do OHP, close grip bench press, and french presses as my bench press supplement and all of those lifts are going up every week since I'm doing all 4 on a 3 day full body split 🔥

  • @iamkinginmycastle2018
    @iamkinginmycastle2018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Last year I followed your advice no bench just dips and ohp and in age of 39 after few months without bench I did my life best bench it was so great thanks man.

  • @bitkid1041
    @bitkid1041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alex you’re a great example for young men. I think a lot of people, myself included would love to hear more about your mindset, habits, success principles, etc.

  • @cristiancorrea5772
    @cristiancorrea5772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi Alex.
    We need more videos about low back strenght. Glute descompensacion etc.
    Back troubles, etc.

  • @Shennnnnnnnnnn
    @Shennnnnnnnnnn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alex, I’m so grateful for your channel and all the time, effort, and work you put into your videos. Seriously, thank you.

  • @KILLIAN1232jc
    @KILLIAN1232jc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For a 145lb guy what would you say the ratios are for the major lifts (beginner, intermediate, advanced, elite)
    Bench:
    Deadlift:
    Squat:
    Overhead Press:
    Bicep Curl:

  • @ardexis3627
    @ardexis3627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i did only bench for 1 month it went up from 235 to like 255 and my ohp went up from 155 to 160 so yeah carryover is amazing between these lifts

  • @jack8998
    @jack8998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love this video. Haven’t trained bench in 4 years and hit 265 just from a few months of weighted dips. Trying to hit 315 without doing any bench variations

    • @tariqo16
      @tariqo16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Film it when you achieve it please

    • @jack8998
      @jack8998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tariqo16 For sure. I'll make a video and link it to this comment chain!

    • @seanptk8043
      @seanptk8043 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jack8998 have you tested your progress yet?

  • @Wo1fLarsen
    @Wo1fLarsen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    My pressing is stagnant as fuck right now. Thanks for this bro.

  • @raymakerscalisthenics660
    @raymakerscalisthenics660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dip anywhere between 3 and 4 plates, in addition to building up more advanced ring strength variations. I remember when gym bros let me join in on a bench session one day, and remember having a full-blown discussion on proper cues of the bench while I'm slowly moving 275lbs around for reps
    Strength is strength

  • @MuscularMontel
    @MuscularMontel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Always interested to hear what you say. Love your channel.

  • @tlm969
    @tlm969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very informative. I need to take ohp more seriously! Can you make this into a series? So a video like this for improving squat, deadlift and other big exercises without actually doing them?

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Absolutely can brother.

    • @tlm969
      @tlm969 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looking forward to it 👌🏾👌🏾

  • @tyrealest
    @tyrealest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your video timing is impeccable

  • @weakboy6871
    @weakboy6871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Focusing just in strenght for now and im really surprised that you didn't mentioned rows,pull ups, lat pulldowns and pulling exercices in general they helped me a lot for my bench (incline)

  • @thomassalahub8219
    @thomassalahub8219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Alex! Really learned something new!

  • @rmb5355
    @rmb5355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when i first started lifting my bench was my strong point (im only 5’9” with very short arms) and it shot up quick. then i injured my shoulder during OHP and had to take a break from the gym. when i came back i stayed away from barbell excercises OHP and bench specifically, got real strong with dumbell (incline) bench and dumbell shoulder press (strong than prior to the injury) but neither of these seemed to have much carry over to my barbell bench or barbell OHP when i revisited them after my shoulder stopped feeling weird. for me at least it seems like i need to get good at an excercise and be consistent with training it to see improvements in that lift. i have seen this with squats, OHP, bench, deadlifts. only body part that i seem to get stronger no matter what the excercise is in my back. just my personal experience. great video alex thanks for the content.

  • @oliviermedeiros1019
    @oliviermedeiros1019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video my man, ça me rappelle ta vidéo "Be jacked with only 135 lbs"
    Tu m'as remotivé à m'y remettre il y a quelques semaines et je t'en remercie énormément! Je me suis acheté un peu de matériel et je compte faire ce programme, qu'en penses-tu? :
    Push 1:
    Weighted dips (3/5x3-5)
    OHP (3x8-12)
    Pushups (3xAMRAP)
    Behind the neck extensions (4x8-12)+Triceps extensions with a band
    Lateral raises+Face-pull+Crunch (3x15-30)
    Pull 1:
    Weighted chinups (3/5x3-5)
    Bodyweight pullups (3xAMRAP)
    Rowing with dumbell (3x8-12)
    Curl rotation (4x6-10)
    Rear delt flies+Face-pull+Crunch (3xAMRAP)
    Push 2:
    CGBP (3x4-8)
    OHP (3x8-12)
    Pushups (3xAMRAP)
    Skull crushers (3x8-12)+band extensions triceps
    Face-pull+Crunch (3xAMRAP(
    Pull 2:
    Pullups (10xAMRAP)
    Bent over rows (3x8-12)
    Curl EZ bar (3x8-12)
    Rear delt flies+Face-pull+Crunch (3xAMRAP)

  • @ericgenesis5367
    @ericgenesis5367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agree 100%, rarely bench but had a new PR at 120KGs just by doing weighted dips 10 reps @ 40KGs and handstand push ups twice a week.

  • @ddcc3073
    @ddcc3073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always look forward to your vids, thank you!

  • @ajramirez77
    @ajramirez77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently got back into my local gym and training. While training at home I was doing dumbbell over head presses and chest presses. Almost 10 months later, without training standard barbell bench I hit 170 lbs for 10 reps. Before my gym closed I was lucky to hit 135 for 10 reps.

  • @irok818sv8
    @irok818sv8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will definitely be adding floor pressing to my training. Thanks bro.

  • @SluggerStark
    @SluggerStark 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. IMO you picked the 3 top alternate pressing exercises that will blast up a flat bench. I was always a pretty strong benched, and had a year where I had no access to a gym and little expendable income. I had park close by with parallel bars, so I invested in a belt and plates. Lots of weighted pushups, dips and pullups. Not only did it do amazing things for my physique, but when I got back to the gym, my bench was actually stronger after a couple sessions of finding the groove!

  • @joshywashy3453
    @joshywashy3453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely a unique video. Love your content.

  • @publicrestroom5075
    @publicrestroom5075 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Weighted dips + OHP combo is not overhyped. These two exercises build crazy mobility and carryover to many exercises. do all different variations too and gains will be off the charts

  • @adrians5875
    @adrians5875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    First time I hit 100kg for 2 reps PR on the bench was after the lockdown when the gyms were closed for a few months and i was dipping every other day.

    • @fdsafsgrgsdg242
      @fdsafsgrgsdg242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What kind of reps or weight did you dip to hit a 100kg bench?

    • @shaundias6313
      @shaundias6313 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How was your recover if you were doing it every other day

    • @oliviermedeiros1019
      @oliviermedeiros1019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fdsafsgrgsdg242 Interested too, to know your sets, reps and weight on weighted dips

    • @NLLeFa
      @NLLeFa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shaundias6313 I tried every other day for 2 months too and I felt fine. The frequency really allows you to progress fast, but doesn't beat you down necessarily. With dips you can go to failure a bit more often too, just the movement although a coumpound lift, it's not as taxing as bench. But I recommend different variarion for the every other day sessions. Maybe a standart dip for day A and a paused dip for day B and you can play with the rep ranges.

  • @manorovermanor299
    @manorovermanor299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey alpha big fan of your channel. Can you give some tips on those people with poor shoulder health on how to exactly do a proper dip. I always feel pain whilst performing them but then again I might have been doing them wrong the whole time

  • @MutantCyborg001
    @MutantCyborg001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like your philosophie lesson today, bravo my friend, i wish your channel to expand even more

  • @gokublack5831
    @gokublack5831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ill come back to this thanks a lot! weighted dips how did I forget about that i cant use my equipment for 1 week now I know what im going to do

  • @robertrussellmusicministri4975
    @robertrussellmusicministri4975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always great advice dude!

  • @mariotigres1873
    @mariotigres1873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the OHP much more than the Bench press; I use it as a the main lift on every upper body training

  • @AdioParkejrowiec
    @AdioParkejrowiec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this advise, I feel ok now to stop benching, for some reason I hate doing bench but love OHP.
    My friend who is competitive bodybuilder told me that he doesn't know how much he can bench as for past 10 years he is only doing dumbbell presses, so I did my research and stumbled upon this video :D

  • @CooperDoran
    @CooperDoran 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Alex, my max bench is over 350 and my ohp is up there as well, but my weighted dip is horrendous relative to a lot of other guys who bench around the same. While I don’t ever do this lift, so that could be the reason for it lagging behind, do you think bringing up the weighted dip would do much for my bench? I’ve started to implement it after watching this video but idk if it’ll have much carryover if my bench is already pretty high

  • @blazefury5637
    @blazefury5637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I stopped benching for years due to shoulder issues, but I was still able to OHP. When I tried benching for the first time in years last year I was able to do above 300 for the first time in my life. However, I seemed to feel the bulk of the weight on my deltoids/triceps and I barely felt any of it in my pecs. Whereas when I used to bench all the time I mainly felt it in my pecs.

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's actually amazing!! Makes sense about the pecs too, so imagine what's possible if you do serious chest work with this current strength. More hardcore PRs would 100% occur.

  • @wjtek-_-4787
    @wjtek-_-4787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Alex, could you do a video about high rep pullups and dips with 10kg, 20kg, 16kg, 20kg and 32kg? These are usually the weights used when doing the high reps. In my opinion this type of training is not really talked about but i think it can be very effective to build strength as seen by elite calisthenics athletes and yourself. You have knowledge about this and for me it seems very interesting to know more information about, thanks.

  • @Setchuwan
    @Setchuwan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid as always, Alex! Could you give me some recommendations for what kind of home squat rack I should buy or which one you have? Looking to expand my home gym

  • @richcaputo2929
    @richcaputo2929 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is right on and I think in general there is a ton of carry over from lifting to things like rowing even without even doing any rowing training

  • @dbzrules95
    @dbzrules95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't even train flat bench, If your goals are general strength and size I find it to be overrated and prefer weighted dips as a main movement.
    Because of lockdown I've been messing around with floor press and the carryover is strong for sure

  • @Atius8
    @Atius8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Floor press and dips, my faves.

  • @ousamaelghazzali4379
    @ousamaelghazzali4379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t forget accessories ! Triceps and all 3 heads of the shoulder are super important for all pressing. Also very important in order to prevent injuries. (Dips , behind the neck triceps, diamond pushups etc. )

  • @mariansykora5341
    @mariansykora5341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now just wait for the squat and deadlift version, thanks for the video!

  • @joeshmoe7967
    @joeshmoe7967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    59, just getting back to weight training. One thing I noticed is how much my push up routine added to my bench. I have been on and off the '100 push up challenge' for awhile, and even as I trained bench my push up count doesn't rise much, but if I really tuck into a push up routine, my bench jumps.
    Makes sense a heavy overhead press would help the bench. Besides, who doesn't also want a killer overhead press! Imagine if it was possible to bench 3 plates, but you could only shoulder press 95 pounds. I want to be strong all over. Cheers

  • @BenG-rd5wg
    @BenG-rd5wg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @luismauricio914
    @luismauricio914 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff man!

  • @darrenfarmer4185
    @darrenfarmer4185 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is sick advise, gang!

  • @Shiyoken
    @Shiyoken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need to invest in a High/Low Cable Pulley system attachment to your rack. You can have your own plates or a stack of plates as the resistance.

  • @tr0uble2
    @tr0uble2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alpha please make a vid on bodyweight traps, no rings no dip bars.

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Check this out homie!
      th-cam.com/video/pqERUAZhmNg/w-d-xo.html&t

  • @socloseagain4298
    @socloseagain4298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Uploaded: 8 seconds ago! Jeez I'm early! Any food vids coming soon bro?

    • @amkool6135
      @amkool6135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully he makes a cooking/recipe/day of eating video

    • @socloseagain4298
      @socloseagain4298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amkool6135 Yeah man I hope that too :D

    • @omp365
      @omp365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he's a vegan isn't he?

    • @socloseagain4298
      @socloseagain4298 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@omp365 I think so yeah!

    • @omp365
      @omp365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@socloseagain4298 yeah, avoid that.

  • @kaiencrowe4440
    @kaiencrowe4440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you think about Weighted Pushups as a main lift? Dips feel VERY uncomfortable and Pushups with 2 and 3 plates have been a nice alternative for me. I do em in the air with the parallel bars, weight hanging. Thoughts? Surprised you didn't include them in the video

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not a problem, if you have the right setup (which sounds like you do) the carryover will be similar to weighted dips. Though the strength standards will be different.

  • @SerratusAnterior
    @SerratusAnterior 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always had pec tightness untill I saw your dips video and tried slingshot assisted dips as my main volume exercise this cycle

  • @NoSetbacksTv
    @NoSetbacksTv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pay this guy ! He giving us golden nuggets

  • @lefonwastaken3393
    @lefonwastaken3393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prioritise OHP. One exercise that’s most important to me. My goal is 100 kg/225 lb, currently at 80kg after a one month gap. Hopefully can achieve that goal. Also do close grip bench and incline bench

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You got this bro, especially since you're also doing CGBP and inclines.

  • @RUOK2000
    @RUOK2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Alex. On the dip is there a lifting weight vs body weight standard? 1:1? 1:2?

  • @StaticDreamsEntert
    @StaticDreamsEntert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alex. I spent about a year training my arms 2-3 a week. I’m tired of training arms and want my training to be all compound lifts. If I stop training arms, will they get enough stimulus from my compounds ( pull ups, bench, etc.) to maintain their size?

    • @mariansykora5341
      @mariansykora5341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont know what is your experience, but my guess is that u can definitely maintain the size, maybe reduce it to once a week can actually help promote the growth

  • @littlethuggie
    @littlethuggie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @6:17 "regular bubble bench press" lol

  • @3RShon
    @3RShon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally opposite experience here. I decided to go for OHP/Dip specialisation for 12 weeks, no benching at that time. Before my 1rm bench was 150kg at 71kg body weight. I progressed OHP 1rm from 75 to 85, progressed weighted dip from 55 to 80 (!), then did a taper week for regular bench and my 1rm dropped to 132,5kg. No changes in body weight.
    I even tried to implement floor press for 4 weeks - also progressed from 137,5 to 155, after that my regular bench stayed at 132,5kg.
    So I would say it varies from a person to person, or at a certain level of strength is no longer applicable, as the more elite you are, the more regular bench you need to maintain your strength at this exercise.

  • @lime3620
    @lime3620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the OHP a lot, but I have always done it with dumbbells, yet I see in your videos you are always doing them with a barbell.
    Do you find that barbell OHPs are just generally better than dumbbell OHPs?

  • @Wchen21
    @Wchen21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Alex, do you think weighted dead hanging is a good method to grow the lats? Is it dangerous if you build up to doing crazy weights? There's a video on TH-cam of someone doing ~700lbs

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From a weighted stretch standpoint, possibly. Though maybe doing overloaded negatives would be a better choice. 700lbs sounds a bit intense.. heck even going in the 2-300s is destroying for most. That said, I've never attempted to push my limits on dead hangs so I can't make any strong statements.

  • @slawekmiczalik8167
    @slawekmiczalik8167 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks.
    I do OHP and dips already.
    I'll add floor press to the mix.

  • @donaldkasper8346
    @donaldkasper8346 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would seem to me weighted dips with the belt on your lower back is a great way to have serious back problems. Instead, maybe push down row machine or push forward row machine is better. At 185 bench, getting legs in shape for leg drive appears to be important.

  • @SaintDicc
    @SaintDicc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got my OHP from 185 to 225 and my bench stayed at 245 the whole time so it doesn't work for everyone

  • @NathanielJewell
    @NathanielJewell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need a video on doing dips the right way to prevent elbow pain because sometimes doing dips hurts

  • @adrianmolina6301
    @adrianmolina6301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you think OHP and Ring dips are good combo as well ? Currently don’t have a dip bar but have rings.

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely bro! Ring dips are brutal, especially RTO style.

    • @Nostalgiaforinfi
      @Nostalgiaforinfi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Use wrist wraps for rings when going weighted

  • @burakcanmutlu2181
    @burakcanmutlu2181 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey alpha. My outter quad bigger than right. What do you suggest for this. Or shouldnt i see this

  • @Daniel-rc2zu
    @Daniel-rc2zu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Bro, I have been doing pistol squats 2 sets of 25 reps per leg 2-3 times a week. Recently I attempted 500 bodyweight squats: 250 150 100. Would high rep bodyweight squat develop my leg strength and endurance better or I should stick to pistol squats?

  • @faustodiegomaidana3598
    @faustodiegomaidana3598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Alex, got any tips on neck variations for a concurrent periodization type of program. I wonder if performing the same neck extensions and curls could cause overuse injuries in the future. Thanks in advance.

  • @nicholascauton9648
    @nicholascauton9648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I firmly believe that you can get a solid bench press performance by mostly doing push-ups. Reason being: Both push-ups and bench press literally work the same muscle.
    Speaking from personal experience, my old 1RM was 185 lbs (84 kg) back in high school. Didn’t bench for years. It wasn’t until COVID hit and I started working out again and I began basing my training on calisthenics for the upper body. After almost an entire year of doing push-ups and a whole bunch of its variations, I became curious about what my new 1RM is. And come to find out I went from 185 lbs to 225 lbs (4x 45 lb plates on each side) and I haven’t done bench press even once.

  • @AdamAyub
    @AdamAyub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible that doing high volume push ups on a consistent will increase bench press?

  • @joace8575
    @joace8575 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU KNOW YOUR SHIT BIG DAWG!!!!
    THANKS!

  • @coron6312
    @coron6312 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Alex! What are your thoughts on using cables instead of barbell or dumbbells for isolating triceps? Are they worse then using a BB or DB for skull crushers or extensions?

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I personally love cables for tricep isolation, but the carryover is better with barbell/dumbbell extensions since the strength curve is more specific. For bodybuilding I would not worry about this though, and keep in mind you can always do both. These days I hit pushdowns first, extensions after. This way I get more out of less weight, with less elbow abuse.

  • @markbales8594
    @markbales8594 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you're weaker on floor press compared to bench what is the bottle neck?

  • @swordofhonor2
    @swordofhonor2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    these are great. i always wanted to specialize in the OHP

  • @mikosmi2
    @mikosmi2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Alex, I am trying to improve my OHP and I was wondering if do you think it is a good idea to train it 3 times at week but when I get the chance, do it 2 times at day, once in the morning and the other at the night.

  • @1x1HealthyEnergybyAndrew
    @1x1HealthyEnergybyAndrew 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks
    I just subscribed and saw your 8 bench press tips from 7 years ago. Why did you turn comments off?
    Any bro scientists or educated personal trainers know if this guy is legit? Or where to start watching his best videos.

  • @joeshmoe7967
    @joeshmoe7967 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love dips, but just buggered my shoulders a few weeks back, doing them. Kicking myself now. I am older and just back at it and got too enthusiastic. My chest has always been fairly strong, but my shoulders weren't up to it. I pushed a little too much. I tried going less deep, but then it is not a dip to me.
    I will revisit when i get my overall strength up. Younger guys dip away. Weighted dips 25 years ago were one of my all time faves.

  • @TommyGunzzz
    @TommyGunzzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing. For a potential push day (PPL split), would it be fine to just do weighted dips and OHP consecutively as the prime movements (lateral raises, cables, etc as accessories)?
    Currently weighted dips at my prime push.

    • @AlexLeonidas
      @AlexLeonidas  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh for sure man, those two in one workout already got you covered. With the accessories that's just bonus :)
      Enjoy the gains!

    • @TommyGunzzz
      @TommyGunzzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlexLeonidas huge fan. Thanks man!

  • @hozerberto4886
    @hozerberto4886 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Alex, I hate the bench but people keep asking about it

  • @Janss1234
    @Janss1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can i focus just on dumbell bench, ohp and triceps extensions and improve my barbell bench?

  • @thom8363
    @thom8363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since you're talking about weighted calisthenics athletes, I had to mention guys like Solo Nero and Ranjit from London, and of course french Baki who is a real monster. All of them have huge dip PRs and they have insane handstand pushups (equivalent to a really heavy OHP I guess). They have incredible shoulders and pecs

  • @milos7773
    @milos7773 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my current home setup, the pins cant be setup at a correct height for floor press, i know you have mentioned before that pin presses can be a little tougher on your joints, can pin presses still provide the same benefit?
    Cheers alex

  • @nmnate
    @nmnate 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been putting ring dips / ring pushups in my programming for additional volume for my push work. Love doing a lot of OHP volume at the moment, and Z press is NO JOKE. :)

  • @mendezmichael17
    @mendezmichael17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am small sized guy, 5'5 60kgs, I managed to hit 100kg easily one rep without training it for a year, just weighted dips!

  • @nessingman
    @nessingman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't bench for years but did weighted Dips.
    My first Bench was 260lb 😅

  • @mikec559
    @mikec559 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video bro, I always look forward to watching your next one! Keep the great content coming and God Bless!

  • @barkruffalo9700
    @barkruffalo9700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude your shoulders are looking massive!