It's really sad to see what's happening to the state. I do understand that people want to move here, but I wish they would do it by getting local jobs and living as "normal" Montanans, not coming in and buying the locals out. We're always hoping for a really bad few years of winter to test the longevity of the newcomers.
Here on Oahu no locals are buying these multimillion dollar apartments that keep being built, all mainlanders who maybe spend a week here a year, or worse foreign investors who never even come here. I have seen so many friends move due to the ridiculous prices of housing, Montana looks like a beautiful place but unfortunately with that cones demand and the people with money will eventually weed out the locals just trying to live.
Partly Yellowstone and the other part the pandemic. People are starting to realize living in the big cities ain’t all it’s cracked up to be and looking for places like Montana to escape to. The problem is when you import big city money into smaller places, all of a sudden the locals can’t afford to live there anymore. And this is becoming a problem pretty much everywhere. So yeah, a lot like the theme of Yellowstone ironically enough 🫠
Depends. If people own already and rates are locked they will be ok. Their property will go up in value which is good. But what do they do with it if they are gonna stay and die there. Will taxes and simple necessities go up so high they cant afford to stay. Gentrification can benefit property owners but then the builders get greedy and see opportunity to start turning gods country into housing communities and suburbs. Theres good and bad. If i had enough liquid and overhead I would love have a survival homestead type of location in the middle of nowhere but the cost of supplies tools and property it will never happen unless I win the lottery
@@Animal99Motherproperty value skyrocketing isn’t necessarily a great thing always. Property taxes can get so high they can’t even afford to pay them anymore
Probably more to do with the fact that everyone is moving out of California and many employees can work remotely these days. The invasion from California has ruined every town in Colorado. Home prices have skyrocketed, the highway to the mountains is a parking lot every weekend, and the newcomers are voting to change Colorado into the disaster they left in California.
I live in California, there are still too many people here, there is still too much new construction going on in my little rural town of Placerville. I'm not sure where all of the people moving into Colorado are coming from, maybe L.A? But I'd like to see some more people leave.
I remember when there was undeveloped land between Darby, Hamilton, Corvallis, Victor, Stevensville, Florence and Missoula. Nine years ago my father came to visit and insisted on seeing that stretch because his parents had lived and passed away in Hamilton. I tried to talk him out of it but we did the road trip anyway. It had been at least 12 years since he saw it and boy was he disappointed. He was blown away because he couldn’t tell where one town ended and the other started. People leave the big cities for small towns only to make small towns into big cities. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some think that stretch is beautiful and others believe the beauty and heritage of Montana small town and country has and is being destroyed. Me? I just keep moving away trying to find those undesirable small towns with nothing to offer but good people who love the slow pace of living.
I'm in Mineral Wells Tx, and they did a lot of filming for the different shows down here. 1883, Yellowstone, 1923, Bass Reeves, and now Landman. My son lives in Big Spring, so he'll be seeing some of that going on out there. The 6666 Ranch is just north of us and Weatherford just east of us. They filmed some right outside my buddies place in Milsap. I still kinda smile as I drive past it. For the people of Strawn Tx, it brought a bit of a boom because they filmed a lot of the Bass Reeves film there. This little town of Mineral Wells has been trying to become a tourist destination for the past 20 years now and with the Baker hotel, they think they will make it. I've watched the house I bought for $17000 jump in value from $25000 to $130,000, and we hadn't even painted it yet! SO yeah I feel your pain, and many of my neighbors do as well.
Half those Yellowstone actors live in or have homes in California. My wife and I (Natives) live in California (the Sierra Foothills) and this is exactly where we will stay. Look, Montana is amazing but the winters are way to long and damn cold. I have no desire to create any hardships or other issues for native Montana Residents. We will come to visit with our RV, spend money and then we will leave. We fully understand what people flocking to a hidden gem and bringing their BS Progressive policies can do, it's not good. We see that here with SF Bay Area and LA residents. To me Yellowstone is entertainment and thats it. I hope native Montana residents can keep what they have and that any idiot that can be influenced by a TV Show moving in does not destroy that. We feel your pain!
I live in Darby and I'm glad that clown show is gone. I think it presented a bad image of how we live here. It gave this area a little more attention than we really needed. Everybody flocked here to see were it was filmed. Idiots parked in the highway to take their pictures in front of the gate to the ranch. The traffic from the hundreds of people and trucks on the highway from filming was crazy. It drove rents up for housing. My property value went up but so did my property taxes. I knew a few people that moved here because they watched the show. They have all left because this place is not as glamorous as the show made it seem. In the end I don't think the average person benefited at all from the show being filmed here. I do like how you represent our state in bringing out the real truth about living here. Thank you.
My brother lives right down the road in conner. I went to visit him last year just like you said idiots taking pics of a gate and maybe the peak of the roof of the house. I hated seeing all the California plates and Subarus everywhere but told him better here than in my state of Tennessee he didn't think that was very funny. We get them moving here from Montana after their first winter there.
Very well said. Anyone stupid enough to move to a place based on a TV Show is not who you want for a neighbor. My wife and I are native Californians living in the Sierra Foothills. We love to visit Montana in our RV but rest assured we will go back home. We will spend out tourist dollars and leave. We fully understand what newcomers from places like the SF Bay Area and LA bring and it sucks. They are too stupid to realize that they leave because of policies they created and will do the same to their new home. I wish you all the best in getting rid of transplants.
I stopped watching the show during the 2nd season-way too violent for me(whether life is really that way out there or not). I’ve been all over Montana for many years and thought it might be nice to live there. Two COLD winters convinced me to just visit in any season but winter.It’s a beautiful state. I’ll be back for a visit soon. Thank you for the information. Keep going…
Absolutely! Californians move to Montana because it’s a farytale and less restricted than their home state but then they make changes to Californiaize it!
It boggles the mind that folks from Kalifornia, etc.. move away to escape the commie BS. Then continue to spread the plague that they are supposedly escaping to the states they move to. Texas is now 'purple' instead of a strong 'red'. All of the larger cities in Texas are huge liberal democrat bastions. DON'T KALIFORNIA MY TEXAS!
I have Montana roots on my mom’s side, all up and down the beautiful western mountainous part of the state including Hamilton. My cousin lives in Polson, another lovely Montana town, and while I was staying there we talked about the California phenomenon. Yes, there is resentment. People want to live in quiet small town places but why is nobody moving to, say, Nebraska? Because they also want to live in spectacular beautiful places. Like Colorado, Montana and other places in the mountain West. And has been pointed out, not only do places get built up and unaffordable, the politics changes away what the original residents had because they become outnumbered. Colorado being a resounding example.
Your commentary about housing costs and inventory would have been better if you had compared it to the national average for the same period. Because at the same time that housing prices in Montana were no doubt increasing because of the show, housing prices in general across the country have gotten really out of control, and comparing the two would have given some much needed context.
They (Californicators , Washington , & any State East of the Prairie ) need to stay out of Utah also, they have done nothing but ruin the small towns! They drag there failed politics and Ideology with them!
Having lived in Whitefish for 5 years during early mid 1990s, I witnessed the impact the movie "A River Runs Through It" made on growing populations and the illusion that it represented what living in Montana was like. Many out of staters began pouring in in search of that idyllic life and the consequence was increased property values and property taxes to such an extent it squeezed out the locals.
I was born and raised in Bozeman, 4th generation...the silicon valley tech (elites & famous) peeps came creepin' in (1990's) and pushed a lot of locals out. That was a true beginning of the 'Rocky Mountain Boom', that started the big chain of developing (causing the cost of living to rise for the regular folks) and pushing people away from their lands...bringing in celebrities and rich who also made it worse by posting social media and publicity info about Montana...that never stopped to this day
I moved here from northern CA seeking constitutional rights that CA wasn’t willing to allow me to maintain. I am still treading lightly because the people who live here are deeply connected with there land and way of life and I intend to respect that. I didn’t even vote for 2 years until I understood more of what MT needs from me. Never watched a single episode of the show.
I lived in the Bitterroot when those self-absorbed, narcissistic, entitled A-holes from Hollyweird came to our valley and wrecked our cost of living and our real estate market. I had a few run-ins with their "people" and as a Montanan...they represented all that is contrary with Montana way of life. I watched exactly one episode of that rubbish show and in the one episode is all that I need to see. I am glad that they are gone, regrettably the damage is done. I work for an international company and my colleagues all know that I am a Montanan that lives in Montana and it is very strange what people's perception is of The Last, Best Place is as they are drawing their opinions from this garbage show. Good Riddance! I left the West side and my family and I now live East of The Divide and we could not be happier.
My girlfriend and I took a month-long road trip out West from Maryland a few months ago. We wanted to see Montana but had no interest in getting caught up in the Yellowstone/Western Montana hysteria. We entered the state from the eastern border and enjoyed a few days there. Yes, it was flat and unassuming, but we totally enjoyed it for its own unique beauty. No regrets!!
If you get back out there take a ride from Livingston to Gardiner thru Paradise Valley! It will not be flat and unassuming!!! It has it's own unique beauty!!!
I saw the same thing playout in Idaho. No, there wasn't a TV show, but word got out about the quality of life, and yes, we had a lot of celebrities that lived there, and it eventually ruined that space. I would travel up to Montana each spring and fall to fish, and I could see what was playing out. I didn't watch the show, just can't, but when I saw the advertising for it, I knew immediately what was going to occur, and now here we are. I hate it, absolutely hate it. It's ruining the lives of the locals, and what's more frustrating is that many don't grasp it, more importantly those in the real estate market.
Good job on showing the actual numbers. I first stayed in Darby in 2019 and wanted to move there when I retired in 2021. Sadly by that time it was already over my budget and very little inventory was to be found. I still try to stay for 10 days or so a couple of times a year. Cheers, Kevin
Will, we have 3 offices in the Bitterroot Valley. We have a very large market share. When we interview buyers, a VERY small number cite Yellowstone as a factor in their motivation for making the move. A larger percentage,yet small, cite Yellowstone in our markets and offices across the state. Now that can’t be said about the rental market including single family homes and commercial properties. The Yellowstone Effect is more romance than reality.
The only way to live in Montana for regular folks is to be homeless.. Move to Bozeman and just park your camper on a side street. Sounds tempting.. I love Montana but can't afford to live there.
I don't think you can attribute most of the property increases to Yellowstone. I live in St Louis and we have also experienced great property increases.
I have lived near the ranch where Yellowstone was filmed. The money that came in 2017 is still damaging the local population. Rent used to be cheap now its unobtainable for many locals. It's very sad to watch what has happened in the past 10 years to beautiful Darby
The other thing to remember for the locals that lived in these areas before Yellowstone became the popular series is the fact that although their home values may have increased that also means their taxes have also increased... Then you think well maybe they could sell their place and keep the money as profit and then buy something less expensive... Except for the fact that everything is now more expensive so that means they have to move someplace else...
When I lived in the high country of the Rockies a bit south of Montana many years ago we would always see the fully loaded moving trucks coming up the canyons in the summertime. The following spring after a normally occurring hard winter before all the snow melted off we would see fully loaded moving trucks going back down those same canyons. A huge percentage of people that move to the mountains because of the beauty they see when they visit in summer aren't mentally or physically prepared for the sub zero temperatures and the 3 and 4 foot deep snows. Winters are much worse further north up there in Montana. These people come in and stay just long enough to drive up the real estate prices then leave. We used to call them, "ear mites" because they have the same effect on an area as ear mites have on an animal if left untreated.
Let’s not forget, housing and real estate is nuts all over the country. This bubble NEEDS to burst! Back in 2013 I bought small house in Arizona about 50 miles out of Kingman. Stick built, stucco, on a couple acrea of ground. Paid less than 50K, sold if a acouple months ago for 180 K. Still came up with a negative because in Texas I bought a home on 1/3 acre for 235K. But I am closer to shopping and health care, which was a must. Also, Kevin Costner and dances with wolves turned Deadwood and the Black Hills into a shithole too!
Never even watched that show but we've been eyeing montana anyway. The swings in home prices are similar to other areas (I'm in PNW) and we've had similar trends in home prices so I wouldn't blame the show for the increase in home prices necessarily. I think in general post pandemic more people are looking to move to more rural areas and smaller towns.
In the bustling of things, we didn’t have a chance to get into the series until it was too late. Assumed it was being filmed in Bozeman. It’s interesting that Rip/Beth moved to Dillon which will now be the next boomtown. And Kayce’s character mirrored real life. He and his family have a place in the bitterroot.
Thank you, I am noting the episode. By the way, this episode was very informative. The money amounts are staggering but the biggest surprise to me are the number of people involved that are never seen. That number sounds like a major movie set, I wonder what those numbers would look like.
Now that Yellowstone show is over the area can get back to the way it was. It will be interesting to see what direction the Chief Joseph ranch goes now that production is finished.
The next year will be interesting what with interests rates, insurance rates, natural disasters (fire/drought), MT taxes, challenging infrastructure, Kalifornia migration, investment groups building new MT resorts/master planned communitues, ... We were planning to buy a second home there a couple of years back. I'm so glad we decided to take it slow and just keep an eye on things. It turns out we really like where we live. No insurance issues and have more flexibility to travel the world.
We live in Northern CALIFORNIA. This past fall we spent a month in Montana while driving back from Michigan. We were SHOCKED at RE prices around Kalispell and Missoula.
"Ruining Montana" is a much more broad and complex issue than just some Hollywood-type television series. i see two major questions here. (1) Is the immigration of political refugees from leftwing fascist/socialist tyranny a good thing or a bad thing on balance? (2) What role did Yellowstone play? It would seem to me that, in the larger perspective of history, Yellowstone is a relatively minor influence. Yes, there are many pretty pictures in Yellowstone that inspire the imagination. On the other hand, Mr. Dutton seemed to me to reflect accurately the pig-headed, tin-god cattle barons that I have known in real life. In the overall individual decision-making process, Yellowstone has a value. I would guess it to vary up to ten per cent. Starting at the beginning of this year of 2024, I actively embarked upon mine own personal project to escape over the eastern border of the totalitarian, leftwing fascist Democrat State of Washington and unto the banks of the wild Missouri. Job one was selling my home in Renton, Washington and banking my share of the proceeds. Job two was arranging the purchase of my new home here. Interspersed with job two was job three of relocating most of my personal junk, two old vehicles, and mine aging carcass. The last consisted of two round trips with junk followed by one one-way drive in my late wife's old Subaru loaded down in dustbowler fashion. The first thing that I noticed when crossing over the western border of Montana was that I could legally throttle up to 80 miles per hour on I-90. The next thing that I noticed was that petrol was a dollar per gallon cheaper. I could buy a snack from a roadside store without paying ten per cent sales tax. Almost everyone here speaks good American Engish that I can readily understand if they talk loudly enough and slowly enough, which almost everyone does. Everyone has been nice to me except for one native Montanan in the Havre area who is afflicted with Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) and generally does not approve of the presence of non-Democrat foreigners from out of state. So what are we doing to "ruin Montana"? Well, the arithmetic is clear. Our presense and our cash from the sale of our homes in the foreign lands has been driving down housing availabiltiy and driving up housing costs. Sorry about that. On the other hand, the housing shortage here is being met with a construction boom. Passing by Missoula en route to here, I saw hundreds of acres of new homes and apartments on the outskirts of town, and that was on just one side. The money that we bring pays for those homes and the income of the people who provide them. A few months after mine arrival, I traded in mine old 2006 Ford Ranger and my late wife's old 2005 Subaru Outback on a new Siliverado and saved in excess of $5,000 on just the burdensome Washington sales tax alone. Hundreds more were saved on vehicle registration costs. Last month I voted to relieve Montana of its typical Democrat US Senator and his attendant demons with a probably somewhat flawed but also probably essentially decent human being. I wish unto him all success. Most of us sacriced much to escape the cruel political tyranny of the venues from whence we are come. We are hyper-vigilant against corruption and subversion and general social and bureaucratic rot. We are good citizens. Peradventure that you have not done so already, you will learn to appreciate us.
Enjoyed the video. Highly educational, and answered questions I (and I’m sure others) had. For endless content, if I was you and would start at season 1 and find filming locations of the show and give historical context. With the end of the show, now is when fans want more. And your proximity is unmatched. I run a wrestling channel so I know how vital relevant content can be. All the best, you gained a new sub. -Maven Huffman
I bought a Dutton Ranch cap at Tractor Supply 3 or 4 years ago. I didn't know what it was. People kept complimenting on it. I still haven't watched even 1 minute of that show. Wouldn't mind having 100 acres in Montana, and a well though.
Once your state shows up on the ''best states to move to '' list it is already game over. New York and New Jersey retirees,...plus ''halfbacks'' have become the death knell for your state. Selling their homes for armored car-worthy amounts of cash,...and driving up prices has made it impossible for locals to compete. And it doesn't even feel ''southern '' there anymore.
Basically what happened to Montana only a decade sooner. The Northerners ruined it by bringing their politics with them. Turned a red state purple. Trying to get out of here…
This is not just one state having issues. It's nearly every state. Ny and California move to every state. Texas Montana Colorado Arkansas..the Carolinas. Florida Georgia..it never ends. Add in illegals moving to every state. It will continue forever. Population growth will ensure even Montana will become ny
We bought our house in Dillon in 2002 for $100,000 it was our vacation cottage. We sold the house in 2018 for $185,000. Now I bet the house would sell for close to $375,000.
Left the Bitterroot Valley in 1979. The funnel of people started coming soon after. If you can shut out all the busyness and politics and enjoy its beauty for what it’s worth, it is one of the most amazing places on earth. The best memories ever. Enough said
We in Nashville Tennessee fully sympathize with Montana! We have been going thru this ever since the show Nashville. the pandemic just intensified our growth!
Great way to tie in RE stats with the popularity of Yellowstone! Only go to Zootown when absolutely necessary 😂 Bitterroot is nice but seems like everyone is stacking up on top of each other there. Thanks for sharing ✌🏻
I've seen the news reports about the concerns about no affordable housing in Bozifornia and how the state needs to address this "problem". To me this "problem" is the solution to unfettered growth in the state. Maybe if there is no where affordable to live here, less people would consider moving here in the first place.
I live in SW Florida one mile from the Gulf and we bought our house new in 94 for $165,000. Developers have now made the area untouchable for young people to move here . There’s not a house within 1 mile of us now thats under a million dollars. I’m talking old homes, not new construction.
I got a bad taste regarding Air Bnb’s two years ago when we vacationed in a certain town (to protect it, I wont name it). A local told us he and his family live paycheck to paycheck now, even though they grew up there. He said the Californians buy up every house they can in the town, only to rent them out as Airbnb’s, which leave nothing for those who grew up in what used to be this small town. The locals have no homes to buy, due to the Californians renting everything out. Ever since I had this conversation with him, I’ve preferred to only stay in hotels. The Airbnb and other vacation home rentals have gone too far.
TV shows are often promoters of real estate booms. For Boston it is Cheers. For Minneapolis it is the Mary Tyler Moore Show. For Seattle it is Frasier. For Dallas it is Dallas. For Miami it is Miami Vice. Other real estate promoters have been Sex and the City; Friends, and Beverly Hills 90210. It is really endless. The only thing different with Montana is the show is not in a big city, yet market forces were happening even before the show Yellowstone, with Hollywood stars taking refuge in ranch properties as well as billionaires.
I remember back in 1996 I took my family to Yellowstone N.P. On the way home we drove through Jackson Hole Wy. I thought "Wow, what a beautiful town, I wonder what homes cost here? " When I got home I looked at Jackson Hole homes for sale. I nearly fainted.
I’ve seen bits and pieces of the show. My family loved it, but doesn’t like the cost affect. All homes are much more expensive. When we moved here 25 years ago from the east, housing was expensive here. That hasn’t changed. It’s beautiful. Quite a few stars have homes here as well which contributes to the high cost.
so does the cost of lumber and building materials for new homes , those cost a lot more now so the cost of used existing housing goes up too. there worth more now. thank the great price reset of 20-21. itll happen again when the owners of this country feel its warranted. carry on tho
I live in Mesa Arizona. I wish it wasn’t true, but we are in the same boat. They say we are fastest rising housing cost in America there is apartment houses going up on every spare piece of property there is. I don’t think they build houses anymore except for million plus so it’s driving the housing price up and up and up.
Its not just one state. I was living in Dallas ft worth. I bought a house back in 2013 for $125k. That house later sold for $375k. ( not by me) I got out of there. I moved to Arkansas. Now Walmart who owns the state brings in nearly 500k people per year as employees. So guess what. Homes go from $200k to $750k over night. And everyday more and more move here. They have big money coming from California. They retire to here and build $2 mil homes. So it's not just your state or anyone else we.
I wanted to move to Hamilton or Missoula to be closer to my mom in Kellogg, ID. Then I heard about Yellowstone and what it did to the area. Nope! Never mind. Not gonna be part of the problem.
What I’ve learned about a large majority of people coming to Montana to escape the craziness in their state is that they have no understanding of rural life. If the closest Starbucks is more than 15 minutes away, it is too rural. They will be fine in Bozeman or Billings, but not so much anywhere else. Many of them just move somewhere else. Rural is having your closest neighbor at least a couple of miles away, not 50’ like in the cities.
I identified with Yellowstone because the same thing is happening in little Rhode Island. My father owns 33 acres of forestland that he inherited from his father. For decades the town charged a minimal amount of taxes because it is open farmland. Now, the town government want to drive out people by skyrocketing taxes on people who own open land to make way for the rich who have built mansions on this cheap land.
I live in a rural area . An because of the pandemic we were flooded by city dwellers. The Real Estate price had gone through the roof . Seems to be leveling out now .
Quite a few people moved all over the U.S. during and after Covid. Many moved from sunny California, for example. However if they moved to Florida they couldn't adjust to the humidity and moved. A lot who moved to Montana, the Dakotas, Wyoming, Alaska couldn't cope with the winters. If they paid 500 thousand for a 190 thousand 😮😮 when they move their going to want more than 500 thousand for it.
I marveled at “Yellowstone’s” popularity. The Duttons were the lawless, greedy, vicious big landowners who were the villains in so many western movies.
YES. the movie Yellowstone absolutely ruined this once beautiful state. AND IT WAS NEVER FILMED IN BOZEMAN. So anyone who is wanting to move here stay the hell out of Bozeman.
If you compare these prices to Boise Idaho, home prices in these towns has gone up a bit more, but not a whole lot more. Many states are seeing population booms. I live in California, there are still way too many people here too.
Have thought about moving to Dillon for hubby’s work. Saw what 400,000$ gets in a home and changed our minds. Took a drive up to chief Joseph ranch and had lunch in town. The people were wonderful!
I'm certain you are principally correct in your assessment of the overall effect of the infusion of new money into the area. However, during this same time frame urban areas have become significantly less stable and until November 6th there was no hope for improvement. Also, rich people have been "escaping" to Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, etc for decades (Robert Redford amongst others). It probably just accelerated due to the "Yellowstone Affect".
Our home was recently wiped out by hurricane Helene…we were considering Montana for our next home however the local response to newcomers has us looking elsewhere.
I read many comments about the show ruining the state. But there are also tons of comments of those saying they wanted to move there before the show. EVERYONE is trying to get away from everyone else. So they move to small towns and those towns become big cities. They in turn have huge fanilys and they in turn move to othe states with " small " towns. And the cycle continues. In other words get used to it. Everyone complaining but its not gonna change
Im sure the show caused some of the price hikes, but I think you are forgetting inflation ( the real numbers), and real estate in general have skyrocketed in most places. I don't think the show caused as much change as you are thinking it did.
We live in Victor and our property value has gone thru the roof. It is getting crowded and most people that live there want to sell but wont be able to afford another house in the valley. It funny, you will drive thru Hamilton and see California plates on some vehicles with "Go Home" written in the road dust on a vehicle. Like the Penn State pullover repped in the video! WE ARE!
Nicely done. All I can say is when people move they do not assimilate and want to change their new environment. They'll say, where I came from we did this or had that, in reply, I say MOVE BACK! Don't ruin these towns.
Well... For the last 15 years, I have had a plan to move to MT. Before the show hit, when people asked me about my future plans and I would tell them, they would respond with "That sounds like a beautiful plan, but it's so remote" Now... If I mention that same plan, people refer to the show😄 and this would typically take place at a bar where I would be drinking my typical go to, which is Bulleit, not to mention I'm a blue collar guy where my go to apparel reflects that😄 Now.. I have to add "And NO!! It's not because of the F☆☆KIN show😂" IMO, the show did ruin it 💯
I was in Yellowstone National Park and couldn't stand the tourists stopping, blocking my journey on my motorcycle with a sidecar viewing the wilderness and wildlife. Too many idiots have no respect for the common people anywhere, no matter where you go. I loved the landscape and wildlife and common residents. Not the idiots that show no respect. I think Yellowstone Lake needs a volcanic eruption to help straighten things out for the future.
definitely a perfect storm of factors but it’s happened nearly elsewhere across the west in scenic areas, as well…..coof19/blue state refugees,remote working from home going big,investment real estate in mtn areas blowing up everywhere and I’m sure the show played a small part in your area, as well. I’m going to miss that show. I don’t think the spinoffs are going to capture it again. We’ll see.
Let's talk about how Yellowstone talked so bad about people from California. If you look at the amount of Federal taxes paid and the return to California it's $400B paid with $100B returned. Montana paid $6B in federal taxes, and $8.8B was returned. Where would those extra funds come from if it wasn't for those " Blue " states? In the future, you all should remember who is paying for your extra Federal funds. Based on 2018 data.
It's really sad to see what's happening to the state. I do understand that people want to move here, but I wish they would do it by getting local jobs and living as "normal" Montanans, not coming in and buying the locals out. We're always hoping for a really bad few years of winter to test the longevity of the newcomers.
Here on Oahu no locals are buying these multimillion dollar apartments that keep being built, all mainlanders who maybe spend a week here a year, or worse foreign investors who never even come here. I have seen so many friends move due to the ridiculous prices of housing, Montana looks like a beautiful place but unfortunately with that cones demand and the people with money will eventually weed out the locals just trying to live.
That would do it!
A week of deep snow and 30 below would send them running south!
We have the same issue in Florida
Well as a Floridian I feel your pain, but believe me, it could be a lot worse, as it is here.
@@JohnMoore-xf5wy they don't stay in Montana in the winter.
Partly Yellowstone and the other part the pandemic. People are starting to realize living in the big cities ain’t all it’s cracked up to be and looking for places like Montana to escape to. The problem is when you import big city money into smaller places, all of a sudden the locals can’t afford to live there anymore. And this is becoming a problem pretty much everywhere. So yeah, a lot like the theme of Yellowstone ironically enough 🫠
I checked real estate prices up there. Holy crap, it's pricey. I feel so bad for those locals.
Depends. If people own already and rates are locked they will be ok. Their property will go up in value which is good. But what do they do with it if they are gonna stay and die there. Will taxes and simple necessities go up so high they cant afford to stay. Gentrification can benefit property owners but then the builders get greedy and see opportunity to start turning gods country into housing communities and suburbs. Theres good and bad. If i had enough liquid and overhead I would love have a survival homestead type of location in the middle of nowhere but the cost of supplies tools and property it will never happen unless I win the lottery
💯 Lockdowns & vaxx mandates ruined affordability.
Same happened to Idaho!
@@Animal99Motherproperty value skyrocketing isn’t necessarily a great thing always. Property taxes can get so high they can’t even afford to pay them anymore
Probably more to do with the fact that everyone is moving out of California and many employees can work remotely these days. The invasion from California has ruined every town in Colorado. Home prices have skyrocketed, the highway to the mountains is a parking lot every weekend, and the newcomers are voting to change Colorado into the disaster they left in California.
I live in California, there are still too many people here, there is still too much new construction going on in my little rural town of Placerville. I'm not sure where all of the people moving into Colorado are coming from, maybe L.A? But I'd like to see some more people leave.
Idaho has been ruined also. Gavin Newsome has been a wrecking ball to many states not just California.
Southern California has ruined Oregon, they just keep coming!!!
Colorado has already turned democrat hahahahaha have fun with that
Same happening to Central Florida.
I remember when there was undeveloped land between Darby, Hamilton, Corvallis, Victor, Stevensville, Florence and Missoula. Nine years ago my father came to visit and insisted on seeing that stretch because his parents had lived and passed away in Hamilton.
I tried to talk him out of it but we did the road trip anyway. It had been at least 12 years since he saw it and boy was he disappointed. He was blown away because he couldn’t tell where one town ended and the other started.
People leave the big cities for small towns only to make small towns into big cities. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some think that stretch is beautiful and others believe the beauty and heritage of Montana small town and country has and is being destroyed.
Me? I just keep moving away trying to find those undesirable small towns with nothing to offer but good people who love the slow pace of living.
Thompson Falls
Thebigskyguy Wow that is beautiful!
I'm in Mineral Wells Tx, and they did a lot of filming for the different shows down here. 1883, Yellowstone, 1923, Bass Reeves, and now Landman. My son lives in Big Spring, so he'll be seeing some of that going on out there. The 6666 Ranch is just north of us and Weatherford just east of us. They filmed some right outside my buddies place in Milsap. I still kinda smile as I drive past it. For the people of Strawn Tx, it brought a bit of a boom because they filmed a lot of the Bass Reeves film there. This little town of Mineral Wells has been trying to become a tourist destination for the past 20 years now and with the Baker hotel, they think they will make it. I've watched the house I bought for $17000 jump in value from $25000 to $130,000, and we hadn't even painted it yet! SO yeah I feel your pain, and many of my neighbors do as well.
Half those Yellowstone actors live in or have homes in California. My wife and I (Natives) live in California (the Sierra Foothills) and this is exactly where we will stay. Look, Montana is amazing but the winters are way to long and damn cold. I have no desire to create any hardships or other issues for native Montana Residents. We will come to visit with our RV, spend money and then we will leave. We fully understand what people flocking to a hidden gem and bringing their BS Progressive policies can do, it's not good. We see that here with SF Bay Area and LA residents. To me Yellowstone is entertainment and thats it. I hope native Montana residents can keep what they have and that any idiot that can be influenced by a TV Show moving in does not destroy that. We feel your pain!
I live in Darby and I'm glad that clown show is gone. I think it presented a bad image of how we live here. It gave this area a little more attention than we really needed. Everybody flocked here to see were it was filmed. Idiots parked in the highway to take their pictures in front of the gate to the ranch. The traffic from the hundreds of people and trucks on the highway from filming was crazy. It drove rents up for housing. My property value went up but so did my property taxes. I knew a few people that moved here because they watched the show. They have all left because this place is not as glamorous as the show made it seem. In the end I don't think the average person benefited at all from the show being filmed here. I do like how you represent our state in bringing out the real truth about living here. Thank you.
My brother lives right down the road in conner. I went to visit him last year just like you said idiots taking pics of a gate and maybe the peak of the roof of the house. I hated seeing all the California plates and Subarus everywhere but told him better here than in my state of Tennessee he didn't think that was very funny. We get them moving here from Montana after their first winter there.
Very well said. Anyone stupid enough to move to a place based on a TV Show is not who you want for a neighbor. My wife and I are native Californians living in the Sierra Foothills. We love to visit Montana in our RV but rest assured we will go back home. We will spend out tourist dollars and leave. We fully understand what newcomers from places like the SF Bay Area and LA bring and it sucks. They are too stupid to realize that they leave because of policies they created and will do the same to their new home. I wish you all the best in getting rid of transplants.
@@AppalachianRancher
EXCELLENT POST,
TRUTH 💯👍✌🏻😎
No, it elevated you ignorant people.
I stopped watching the show during the 2nd season-way too violent for me(whether life is really that way out there or not). I’ve been all over Montana for many years and thought it might be nice to live there. Two COLD winters convinced me to just visit in any season but winter.It’s a beautiful state. I’ll be back for a visit soon. Thank you for the information. Keep going…
Absolutely! Californians move to Montana because it’s a farytale and less restricted than their home state but then they make changes to Californiaize it!
As more Californians move to Montana, Montana becomes more Republican.
Californians ruined idaho too
It boggles the mind that folks from Kalifornia, etc.. move away to escape the commie BS. Then continue to spread the plague that they are supposedly escaping to the states they move to. Texas is now 'purple' instead of a strong 'red'. All of the larger cities in Texas are huge liberal democrat bastions.
DON'T KALIFORNIA MY TEXAS!
Easy scapegoat. The Californians moving there are conservatives. Liberals don’t want to live in a repressive red nanny state.
@@megamilyon6111 what does that mean? Lefty wokeness is moving in, far from republican?!
I have Montana roots on my mom’s side, all up and down the beautiful western mountainous part of the state including Hamilton. My cousin lives in Polson, another lovely Montana town, and while I was staying there we talked about the California phenomenon. Yes, there is resentment. People want to live in quiet small town places but why is nobody moving to, say, Nebraska? Because they also want to live in spectacular beautiful places. Like Colorado, Montana and other places in the mountain West. And has been pointed out, not only do places get built up and unaffordable, the politics changes away what the original residents had because they become outnumbered. Colorado being a resounding example.
Your commentary about housing costs and inventory would have been better if you had compared it to the national average for the same period. Because at the same time that housing prices in Montana were no doubt increasing because of the show, housing prices in general across the country have gotten really out of control, and comparing the two would have given some much needed context.
Stay in California, Minnesota., Washington. Montana is full !!
I hear Wyoming is take applications. 😂
They (Californicators , Washington , & any State East of the Prairie ) need to stay out of Utah also, they have done nothing but ruin the small towns! They drag there failed politics and Ideology with them!
Your both goofy 🤪
Idaho is and has bn full too.....
Minnesota is pretty full too
Having lived in Whitefish for 5 years during early mid 1990s, I witnessed the impact the movie "A River Runs Through It" made on growing populations and the illusion that it represented what living in Montana was like. Many out of staters began pouring in in search of that idyllic life and the consequence was increased property values and property taxes to such an extent it squeezed out the locals.
I was born and raised in Bozeman, 4th generation...the silicon valley tech (elites & famous) peeps came creepin' in (1990's) and pushed a lot of locals out. That was a true beginning of the 'Rocky Mountain Boom', that started the big chain of developing (causing the cost of living to rise for the regular folks) and pushing people away from their lands...bringing in celebrities and rich who also made it worse by posting social media and publicity info about Montana...that never stopped to this day
I moved here from northern CA seeking constitutional rights that CA wasn’t willing to allow me to maintain. I am still treading lightly because the people who live here are deeply connected with there land and way of life and I intend to respect that. I didn’t even vote for 2 years until I understood more of what MT needs from me.
Never watched a single episode of the show.
ask not what the country can do for you but what YOU can do for the country
I've never seen a single episode of "Yellowstone", but Montana and I go back almost 50 years, even though I've never been there. But in my dreams...❤
I lived in the Bitterroot when those self-absorbed, narcissistic, entitled A-holes from Hollyweird came to our valley and wrecked our cost of living and our real estate market. I had a few run-ins with their "people" and as a Montanan...they represented all that is contrary with Montana way of life. I watched exactly one episode of that rubbish show and in the one episode is all that I need to see. I am glad that they are gone, regrettably the damage is done. I work for an international company and my colleagues all know that I am a Montanan that lives in Montana and it is very strange what people's perception is of The Last, Best Place is as they are drawing their opinions from this garbage show. Good Riddance! I left the West side and my family and I now live East of The Divide and we could not be happier.
AMEN!!!!
get off my lawn lmao
My girlfriend and I took a month-long road trip out West from Maryland a few months ago. We wanted to see Montana but had no interest in getting caught up in the Yellowstone/Western Montana hysteria. We entered the state from the eastern border and enjoyed a few days there. Yes, it was flat and unassuming, but we totally enjoyed it for its own unique beauty. No regrets!!
If you get back out there take a ride from Livingston to Gardiner thru Paradise Valley! It will not be flat and unassuming!!! It has it's own unique beauty!!!
If you go western montana it's not flat ! I live here
Northwest is corner is not in the chaos
Never watched the show, but thankfully moved here beforehand. Prices are ridiculous now!
I saw the same thing playout in Idaho. No, there wasn't a TV show, but word got out about the quality of life, and yes, we had a lot of celebrities that lived there, and it eventually ruined that space. I would travel up to Montana each spring and fall to fish, and I could see what was playing out. I didn't watch the show, just can't, but when I saw the advertising for it, I knew immediately what was going to occur, and now here we are. I hate it, absolutely hate it. It's ruining the lives of the locals, and what's more frustrating is that many don't grasp it, more importantly those in the real estate market.
Why do so many from Idaho move to Arkansas???
Good job on showing the actual numbers. I first stayed in Darby in 2019 and wanted to move there when I retired in 2021. Sadly by that time it was already over my budget and very little inventory was to be found. I still try to stay for 10 days or so a couple of times a year.
Cheers,
Kevin
Will, we have 3 offices in the Bitterroot Valley. We have a very large market share. When we interview buyers, a VERY small number cite Yellowstone as a factor in their motivation for making the move. A larger percentage,yet small, cite Yellowstone in our markets and offices across the state. Now that can’t be said about the rental market including single family homes and commercial properties. The Yellowstone Effect is more romance than reality.
The only way to live in Montana for regular folks is to be homeless.. Move to Bozeman and just park your camper on a side street. Sounds tempting.. I love Montana but can't afford to live there.
Missoula is as liberal as Bozeman. Homelessness abounds.
@tt600pch I don't like the liberal part, lol.. Poor but proud conservative here..
I don't think you can attribute most of the property increases to Yellowstone. I live in St Louis and we have also experienced great property increases.
Same here in San Antonio.
I have lived near the ranch where Yellowstone was filmed. The money that came in 2017 is still damaging the local population. Rent used to be cheap now its unobtainable for many locals. It's very sad to watch what has happened in the past 10 years to beautiful Darby
The other thing to remember for the locals that lived in these areas before Yellowstone became the popular series is the fact that although their home values may have increased that also means their taxes have also increased... Then you think well maybe they could sell their place and keep the money as profit and then buy something less expensive... Except for the fact that everything is now more expensive so that means they have to move someplace else...
When I lived in the high country of the Rockies a bit south of Montana many years ago we would always see the fully loaded moving trucks coming up the canyons in the summertime. The following spring after a normally occurring hard winter before all the snow melted off we would see fully loaded moving trucks going back down those same canyons. A huge percentage of people that move to the mountains because of the beauty they see when they visit in summer aren't mentally or physically prepared for the sub zero temperatures and the 3 and 4 foot deep snows. Winters are much worse further north up there in Montana. These people come in and stay just long enough to drive up the real estate prices then leave. We used to call them, "ear mites" because they have the same effect on an area as ear mites have on an animal if left untreated.
I played a news camera man in season 5. It was definitely an interesting experience.
How does the price changes look, compared to the rest of the US? It seems to mirror the overall market.
Let’s not forget, housing and real estate is nuts all over the country. This bubble NEEDS to burst! Back in 2013 I bought small house in Arizona about 50 miles out of Kingman. Stick built, stucco, on a couple acrea of ground. Paid less than 50K, sold if a acouple months ago for 180 K. Still came up with a negative because in Texas I bought a home on 1/3 acre for 235K. But I am closer to shopping and health care, which was a must.
Also, Kevin Costner and dances with wolves turned Deadwood and the Black Hills into a shithole too!
Montana was ruined years ago when they put casinos on every corner.
Never even watched that show but we've been eyeing montana anyway. The swings in home prices are similar to other areas (I'm in PNW) and we've had similar trends in home prices so I wouldn't blame the show for the increase in home prices necessarily. I think in general post pandemic more people are looking to move to more rural areas and smaller towns.
In the bustling of things, we didn’t have a chance to get into the series until it was too late. Assumed it was being filmed in Bozeman. It’s interesting that Rip/Beth moved to Dillon which will now be the next boomtown. And Kayce’s character mirrored real life. He and his family have a place in the bitterroot.
Or did Yellostone just pick up where A River Runs Through It left off?
Hi Will, what episode or season were you in? I am just starting to watch the series now.
Season 5, episode 1
Thank you, I am noting the episode. By the way, this episode was very informative. The money amounts are staggering but the biggest surprise to me are the number of people involved that are never seen. That number sounds like a major movie set, I wonder what those numbers would look like.
Now that Yellowstone show is over the area can get back to the way it was. It will be interesting to see what direction the Chief Joseph ranch goes now that production is finished.
The next year will be interesting what with interests rates, insurance rates, natural disasters (fire/drought), MT taxes, challenging infrastructure, Kalifornia migration, investment groups building new MT resorts/master planned communitues, ...
We were planning to buy a second home there a couple of years back. I'm so glad we decided to take it slow and just keep an eye on things. It turns out we really like where we live. No insurance issues and have more flexibility to travel the world.
We live in Northern CALIFORNIA. This past fall we spent a month in Montana while driving back from Michigan.
We were SHOCKED at RE prices around Kalispell and Missoula.
"Ruining Montana" is a much more broad and complex issue than just some Hollywood-type television series. i see two major questions here. (1) Is the immigration of political refugees from leftwing fascist/socialist tyranny a good thing or a bad thing on balance? (2) What role did Yellowstone play?
It would seem to me that, in the larger perspective of history, Yellowstone is a relatively minor influence. Yes, there are many pretty pictures in Yellowstone that inspire the imagination. On the other hand, Mr. Dutton seemed to me to reflect accurately the pig-headed, tin-god cattle barons that I have known in real life. In the overall individual decision-making process, Yellowstone has a value. I would guess it to vary up to ten per cent.
Starting at the beginning of this year of 2024, I actively embarked upon mine own personal project to escape over the eastern border of the totalitarian, leftwing fascist Democrat State of Washington and unto the banks of the wild Missouri. Job one was selling my home in Renton, Washington and banking my share of the proceeds. Job two was arranging the purchase of my new home here. Interspersed with job two was job three of relocating most of my personal junk, two old vehicles, and mine aging carcass. The last consisted of two round trips with junk followed by one one-way drive in my late wife's old Subaru loaded down in dustbowler fashion. The first thing that I noticed when crossing over the western border of Montana was that I could legally throttle up to 80 miles per hour on I-90. The next thing that I noticed was that petrol was a dollar per gallon cheaper. I could buy a snack from a roadside store without paying ten per cent sales tax. Almost everyone here speaks good American Engish that I can readily understand if they talk loudly enough and slowly enough, which almost everyone does. Everyone has been nice to me except for one native Montanan in the Havre area who is afflicted with Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) and generally does not approve of the presence of non-Democrat foreigners from out of state.
So what are we doing to "ruin Montana"? Well, the arithmetic is clear. Our presense and our cash from the sale of our homes in the foreign lands has been driving down housing availabiltiy and driving up housing costs. Sorry about that. On the other hand, the housing shortage here is being met with a construction boom. Passing by Missoula en route to here, I saw hundreds of acres of new homes and apartments on the outskirts of town, and that was on just one side. The money that we bring pays for those homes and the income of the people who provide them. A few months after mine arrival, I traded in mine old 2006 Ford Ranger and my late wife's old 2005 Subaru Outback on a new Siliverado and saved in excess of $5,000 on just the burdensome Washington sales tax alone. Hundreds more were saved on vehicle registration costs.
Last month I voted to relieve Montana of its typical Democrat US Senator and his attendant demons with a probably somewhat flawed but also probably essentially decent human being. I wish unto him all success. Most of us sacriced much to escape the cruel political tyranny of the venues from whence we are come. We are hyper-vigilant against corruption and subversion and general social and bureaucratic rot. We are good citizens. Peradventure that you have not done so already, you will learn to appreciate us.
Montana is beautiful but it’s coooooooooold.
Oh yes, but it makes up for it by being super hot in the summer.
Enjoyed the video. Highly educational, and answered questions I (and I’m sure others) had. For endless content, if I was you and would start at season 1 and find filming locations of the show and give historical context. With the end of the show, now is when fans want more. And your proximity is unmatched. I run a wrestling channel so I know how vital relevant content can be. All the best, you gained a new sub.
-Maven Huffman
Great idea!
I bought a Dutton Ranch cap at Tractor Supply 3 or 4 years ago. I didn't know what it was. People kept complimenting on it.
I still haven't watched even 1 minute of that show.
Wouldn't mind having 100 acres in Montana, and a well though.
Don't even get me started on what has happened to North Carolina the past 10 years!
Once your state shows up on the ''best states to move to '' list it is already game over. New York and New Jersey retirees,...plus ''halfbacks'' have become the death knell for your state. Selling their homes for armored car-worthy amounts of cash,...and driving up prices has made it impossible for locals to compete. And it doesn't even feel ''southern '' there anymore.
Basically what happened to Montana only a decade sooner. The Northerners ruined it by bringing their politics with them. Turned a red state purple. Trying to get out of here…
Yea really our way of life is being ruined
This is not just one state having issues. It's nearly every state. Ny and California move to every state. Texas Montana Colorado Arkansas..the Carolinas. Florida Georgia..it never ends. Add in illegals moving to every state. It will continue forever. Population growth will ensure even Montana will become ny
We bought our house in Dillon in 2002 for $100,000 it was our vacation cottage.
We sold the house in 2018 for $185,000. Now I bet the house would sell for close to $375,000.
Probably more unless it was a really run down small house. 425k and up...
Left the Bitterroot Valley in 1979. The funnel of people started coming soon after. If you can shut out all the busyness and politics and enjoy its beauty for what it’s worth, it is one of the most amazing places on earth. The best memories ever. Enough said
We in Nashville Tennessee fully sympathize with Montana! We have been going thru this ever since the show Nashville. the pandemic just intensified our growth!
Great way to tie in RE stats with the popularity of Yellowstone! Only go to Zootown when absolutely necessary 😂 Bitterroot is nice but seems like everyone is stacking up on top of each other there. Thanks for sharing ✌🏻
💯true about Zootown & Bitterroot!
I've seen the news reports about the concerns about no affordable housing in Bozifornia and how the state needs to address this "problem". To me this "problem" is the solution to unfettered growth in the state. Maybe if there is no where affordable to live here, less people would consider moving here in the first place.
I live in SW Florida one mile from the Gulf and we bought our house new in 94 for $165,000. Developers have now made the area untouchable for young people to move here . There’s not a house within 1 mile of us now thats under a million dollars. I’m talking old homes, not new construction.
I got a bad taste regarding Air Bnb’s two years ago when we vacationed in a certain town (to protect it, I wont name it). A local told us he and his family live paycheck to paycheck now, even though they grew up there. He said the Californians buy up every house they can in the town, only to rent them out as Airbnb’s, which leave nothing for those who grew up in what used to be this small town. The locals have no homes to buy, due to the Californians renting everything out. Ever since I had this conversation with him, I’ve preferred to only stay in hotels. The Airbnb and other vacation home rentals have gone too far.
TV shows are often promoters of real estate booms. For Boston it is Cheers. For Minneapolis it is the Mary Tyler Moore Show. For Seattle it is Frasier. For Dallas it is Dallas. For Miami it is Miami Vice. Other real estate promoters have been Sex and the City; Friends, and Beverly Hills 90210. It is really endless. The only thing different with Montana is the show is not in a big city, yet market forces were happening even before the show Yellowstone, with Hollywood stars taking refuge in ranch properties as well as billionaires.
I remember back in 1996 I took my family to Yellowstone N.P. On the way home we drove through Jackson Hole Wy. I thought "Wow, what a beautiful town, I wonder what homes cost here? " When I got home I looked at Jackson Hole homes for sale. I nearly fainted.
I’ve seen bits and pieces of the show. My family loved it, but doesn’t like the cost affect. All homes are much more expensive. When we moved here 25 years ago from the east, housing was expensive here. That hasn’t changed. It’s beautiful. Quite a few stars have homes here as well which contributes to the high cost.
so does the cost of lumber and building materials for new homes , those cost a lot more now so the cost of used existing housing goes up too. there worth more now. thank the great price reset of 20-21. itll happen again when the owners of this country feel its warranted. carry on tho
I live in Mesa Arizona. I wish it wasn’t true, but we are in the same boat. They say we are fastest rising housing cost in America there is apartment houses going up on every spare piece of property there is. I don’t think they build houses anymore except for million plus so it’s driving the housing price up and up and up.
Its not just one state. I was living in Dallas ft worth. I bought a house back in 2013 for $125k. That house later sold for $375k. ( not by me)
I got out of there. I moved to Arkansas. Now Walmart who owns the state brings in nearly 500k people per year as employees. So guess what. Homes go from $200k to $750k over night. And everyday more and more move here. They have big money coming from California. They retire to here and build $2 mil homes. So it's not just your state or anyone else we.
I wanted to move to Hamilton or Missoula to be closer to my mom in Kellogg, ID. Then I heard about Yellowstone and what it did to the area. Nope! Never mind. Not gonna be part of the problem.
North Idaho is way better anyway.
What I’ve learned about a large majority of people coming to Montana to escape the craziness in their state is that they have no understanding of rural life. If the closest Starbucks is more than 15 minutes away, it is too rural. They will be fine in Bozeman or Billings, but not so much anywhere else. Many of them just move somewhere else. Rural is having your closest neighbor at least a couple of miles away, not 50’ like in the cities.
Good afternoon from Lone Grove Oklahoma my friend! Great job as always.
Has the supply come back up because people have left or they have built more houses?
Both
Oh yes, Montana is just like the TV show...😮😅
I identified with Yellowstone because the same thing is happening in little Rhode Island. My father owns 33 acres of forestland that he inherited from his father. For decades the town charged a minimal amount of taxes because it is open farmland. Now, the town government want to drive out people by skyrocketing taxes on people who own open land to make way for the rich who have built mansions on this cheap land.
I live in a rural area . An because of the pandemic we were flooded by city dwellers. The Real Estate price had gone through the roof . Seems to be leveling out now .
Yeah, California money is making Montana Great Again! 😮😊
Locals love the new arrivals, their politics taking over😮
We have the same problem in Wyoming around Jackson.
Gavin Newsom has ruined Idaho, Montana, Colorado and Texas right along with California.
Quite a few people moved all over the U.S. during and after Covid. Many moved from sunny California, for example. However if they moved to Florida they couldn't adjust to the humidity and moved. A lot who moved to Montana, the Dakotas, Wyoming, Alaska couldn't cope with the winters. If they paid 500 thousand for a 190 thousand 😮😮 when they move their going to want more than 500 thousand for it.
Montana was hugely impacted by, “A River Runs Through It” long before “Yellowstone!”
I watched part of an early episode of the show... made my skin crawl... never again.
I marveled at “Yellowstone’s” popularity. The Duttons were the lawless, greedy, vicious big landowners who were the villains in so many western movies.
Possibly if that show brought in certain voters from states like California.
YES. the movie Yellowstone absolutely ruined this once beautiful state. AND IT WAS NEVER FILMED IN BOZEMAN. So anyone who is wanting to move here stay the hell out of Bozeman.
Largest town is Billings with 100k
Wow …….not.
The real estate pop is done and
will get real in the next year.😮🤷🏿♂️😁
I worked for the USFS in the Bitterroot valley back in the early 90's and it was ruined then and that was 30 years ago!
As soon as they keep Montana red fair away from all this BS I don’t think property is bad !
By the way need some help
Whitefish x Bozeman ?
If you compare these prices to Boise Idaho, home prices in these towns has gone up a bit more, but not a whole lot more. Many states are seeing population booms. I live in California, there are still way too many people here too.
Have thought about moving to Dillon for hubby’s work. Saw what 400,000$ gets in a home and changed our minds. Took a drive up to chief Joseph ranch and had lunch in town. The people were wonderful!
If you think Dillion area is expensive don't even bother with the Bitterroot.
I really enjoyed this reality-check video! Fascinating first-hand information.
I would love to own a ranch with beautiful highland cows one day 😢
I'm certain you are principally correct in your assessment of the overall effect of the infusion of new money into the area.
However, during this same time frame urban areas have become significantly less stable and until November 6th there was no hope for improvement.
Also, rich people have been "escaping" to Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, etc for decades (Robert Redford amongst others). It probably just accelerated due to the "Yellowstone Affect".
Our home was recently wiped out by hurricane Helene…we were considering Montana for our next home however the local response to newcomers has us looking elsewhere.
Thank you.
I read many comments about the show ruining the state. But there are also tons of comments of those saying they wanted to move there before the show. EVERYONE is trying to get away from everyone else. So they move to small towns and those towns become big cities. They in turn have huge fanilys and they in turn move to othe states with " small " towns. And the cycle continues. In other words get used to it. Everyone complaining but its not gonna change
Disgusting. Montana is now California and Colorado. It is lost.
Man, I wish I could get from the Chief Joseph Ranch to Missoula in a short car ride.
Im sure the show caused some of the price hikes, but I think you are forgetting inflation ( the real numbers), and real estate in general have skyrocketed in most places.
I don't think the show caused as much change as you are thinking it did.
We live in Victor and our property value has gone thru the roof. It is getting crowded and most people that live there want to sell but wont be able to afford another house in the valley. It funny, you will drive thru Hamilton and see California plates on some vehicles with "Go Home" written in the road dust on a vehicle. Like the Penn State pullover repped in the video! WE ARE!
Watched 20 minutes of the 1st episode of Yellowstone when it came out and turned it off. Not even close. Just another late nite soap opera.
Could you do a similar growth chart for Whitefish, Columbia Falls and Kailispell.
Nicely done. All I can say is when people move they do not assimilate and want to change their new environment. They'll say, where I came from we did this or had that, in reply, I say MOVE BACK! Don't ruin these towns.
Yellowstone is filmed in Utah and not in Montana. Seems like similar property in Utah may be the bargain?
Only the first couple of seasons were, then everything was in Montana.
Montana is great like most the Western States. But those winters would drive a man to drink.
Have never watched one second of that show and never will.
Well... For the last 15 years, I have had a plan to move to MT.
Before the show hit, when people asked me about my future plans and I would tell them, they would respond with "That sounds like a beautiful plan, but it's so remote" Now... If I mention that same plan, people refer to the show😄 and this would typically take place at a bar where I would be drinking my typical go to, which is Bulleit, not to mention I'm a blue collar guy where my go to apparel reflects that😄
Now.. I have to add "And NO!! It's not because of the F☆☆KIN show😂"
IMO, the show did ruin it 💯
Wyoming is next. People are spreading out.
Same here in the surrounding countys of Nashville Tennessee.
Excellent video, very informative
Build a wall!!!!
Montana has been a crap hole since the 90s. The Yellowstone show just pushed Montana further down the crap hole.
Glad to see. Now Darby can get back to Normal.
I was in Yellowstone National Park and couldn't stand the tourists stopping, blocking my journey on my motorcycle with a sidecar viewing the wilderness and wildlife. Too many idiots have no respect for the common people anywhere, no matter where you go. I loved the landscape and wildlife and common residents. Not the idiots that show no respect. I think Yellowstone Lake needs a volcanic eruption to help straighten things out for the future.
I would not say "ruined" but it has changed it a bit. I'm hoping that some people move away.
definitely a perfect storm of factors but it’s happened nearly elsewhere across the west in scenic areas, as well…..coof19/blue state refugees,remote working from home going big,investment real estate in mtn areas blowing up everywhere and I’m sure the show played a small part in your area, as well.
I’m going to miss that show. I don’t think the spinoffs are going to capture it again. We’ll see.
Well said
Let's talk about how Yellowstone talked so bad about people from California. If you look at the amount of Federal taxes paid and the return to California it's $400B paid with $100B returned. Montana paid $6B in federal taxes, and $8.8B was returned. Where would those extra funds come from if it wasn't for those " Blue " states? In the future, you all should remember who is paying for your extra Federal funds. Based on 2018 data.
Really liked this video! So glad you did it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I worked on far and away in 1990 for about 16 days , and I made 65.00 per day and they were long days .