🍊 Persimmons 🍑 Why YOU Need To Grow Them ✔️ Raising Persimmons In Texas
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Persimmons are one of the easiest fruits to grow. There are very few pests that will attack a persimmon tree and I've found the fruit to be relatively pest free.
I think everybody that is in a zone where it's possible to grow persimmons should consider them. They are one of the sweetest fruits that I've eaten.
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This is my hands down favorite fruit to eat And tree to plant. I’ve been growing them for years. This tree needs NOOOO baby sitter. I love them because they are truly the most pest resistant, low maintenance tree I’ve ever grown. I have 7 trees now. I love them so much that I have started removing plum trees so I can replace them with even more persimmon trees 😉
I always liked your videos my friend. Thank you. Oh yeah! By the way!!!! I remember the video you did about your tree being so loaded that it broke. 😂🤣😂 that video cut me to the bone !🦴 I was hurt for you brother 🤣😂🤣😂
Wow... You are a great resource for me!
I'm looking at buying several persimmons in a couple of months.
I will also probably be replacing other fruits in favor of persimmons.
What I need to know is this:
What varieties do best?
What are the taste differences? (i read one of them tastes like butterscotch- yuck)
What are your favorites (for taste and other reasons)?
Are there varieties that are dwarf? (i will do some in large containers)
So... taste differences, personal preferences and growth patterns...
Also... What zone are you in?
Any info you can give me would be very helpful.
thanks,
alan
What Do This Fruit Taste Like?
@@PimpingOutPain699
Hard to compare it with anything else... but very sweet and good.
See if they have any at a store near you.
I think you'll like it.
Just ordered some !
From my own experience, and I can only speak from my own. I have 5 different varieties
1. FUYU
2. JIRO (⭐️ MY FAVORITE)
3. COFFEE CAKE (2ND FAV)
5. CHOCOLATE
5. TAM-O-PAN ( ASTRINGENT SHOW PIECE)
they all seem to grow the same way on my land. Slow, then FAST 💨 slow then FAST💨 some years they take a break on fruiting and go bare but those are the years where they put on the most new growth, height and girth.
TASTE- as far as tase, they only persimmon that I’ve tasted that is really mind blowing is the coffee cake persimmon. ( it taste like a real cinnamon coffee cake!) ThAts one of my favorites. Besides that the others pretty much taste all the same. The chocolate is a fresh eating acorn shape that looks like chocolate inside. (DOESNT TASTE LIKE CHOCOLATE) but it’s a good show piece. I have the other varieties, pretty much just to help with pollination.
Dwarf Varieties- I have only seen dwarf varieties offered by “Dave Wilson’s nursery” hard to get any of his trees here on the East coast. I’ve honestly never seen one in person. I’ve Only seen them on his videos.
FAVORITE VARIETIES- One of my favorite trees is the “JIRO” because its fresh eating, non astringent, self pollinating, it’s as hearty, Maintenace free, and pest resistant as the standard “FUYU” but the only difference is that (in my own opinion) it seems to bare double or even triple the fruit over all of the other varieties that I have.
ZONE- I’m in zone 8a east coast but not far from ya in Columbia South Carolina 😉
I hope this helped a little. I’ve done several experiments with these trees and here are a few things that I’ve learned
1. Almost impossible to grow from cuttings. Never been successful at it 🤦🏽♂️
2. You can air layer them but it takes double or 3xs the time to root over a apple, citrus or peach etc. I’ve been successful 👍🏽
3. They don’t like to be babied ex... watered, fertilized, they just don’t seem to like it. I just throw grass clippings, leaves, chicken poop, old road kill around them and they are good to go.
4. All of mine seem to do better in direct sunlight all day. They say that they need shade but that doesn’t seem to be the case here on my land. Tried that and it didn’t do very well.
5. I’ve grown them in large containers before but after the 3 year mark they start to fail rapidly.
6. Last but not least...... sensitivity! These are the most temperamental trees that I’ve ever seen besides a paw paw. They don’t like being dug up and moved, roots disturbed, too much fertilizer, too much water, pruned NOTHING! I’ve found that just leaving them the heck alone works out better for them. Every blue moon I may prune a crossing or dead branch but other than that, I just leave these babies alone.
Hi Lead, I watch your videos and this response has given me more insight on growing persimmon than any video.
I will switch over to your channel now to see a video on Persimmon.
Thanks!!
I'm getting my persimmon trees now.
Is the ICHI KI KEI JIRO the same as the "Jiro" you listed as your favorite?
Thanks,
alan
Hi, Leadfarmer73...I am in Columbia area as well, and would like to buy a couple of cutting from you to try the ones you like....My experience in growing persimmon trees are a little frustrating at best...Firstly, I bought two fuyu trees from two different sources, which were doing fine till I transplanted them due to moving. Then I bought another fuyu from local Lowe's that was dying after a few months (which I got refund), and another fuyu from Homedepot which after three years it fruited, and turned out to be astringent type. The fruits are a little smaller than the fuyu and rounder, much like Eureka, but I'll call it unknown astringent persimmon tree. Last year, I bought a giant fuyu tree from a nursery and it fruited this year with large persimmons, though I noted that the stem of the root stock appears to have a decaying hole in the wood. It does does not appear to be decaying further inside(likely healed), so I will have my finger crossed.
I agree with you that they taste similar in general when fully ripened...though I'd like to try grafting the jiro and coffee cake persimmon scions onto my astringent tree (and on to the root stock of the fuyu which had died after transplanting). If you are interested, please let me know I can either pay or trade with you what I have, not necessarily limited to persimmon. Thanks...
Agreed. Steak and potatoes. No muss; no fuss.
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Persimmon preserves are awesome
I always want to grow persimmon tree. Persimmon is my favorite fruit. Admire you have lots!
They are so easy... not many bugs or diseases attack them
Thank you for the video!
You bet :)
By far my favorite fruit!!!
I planted one persimmon and 3 peach trees which I feel was a mistake because of how low maintenance the persimmon is with good production. I lost all my peaches to brown rot this year. Thanks for posting this video
I'm headed toward a LOT of persimmons.
A lot of the varieties ripen at different times, so that I can have fruit for several months instead of all at one slam.
alan
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@@BIGALTX I'm definitely going to go that same route
@thatpat1 I'm going to them back real good to open up space and use an fungicide spray. I haven't found any organic ways to treat brown rot yet.
@@regrob16 Good for you.
Let me know how it goes.
alan
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I have two trees for over three years and have not grown much.
Persimmon are a little fickle.
Give them a few more years and see what happens.
STRONG BUG
Yeap! Dadgum it, do the wine video! That would be interesting!
I have a Texas persimmon and in the last 22 yr, it’s never bared fruit.
Wow... I'd give up on it.
Or... plant a different variety that might need the AP to help pollinate it
According to folklore, if you crack open a persimmon seed from a ripe fruit and the shape inside (called a cotyledon) looks like a fork, winter will be mild; if you see a spoon, there will be a lot of snow, and if there is a knife, winter will be bitingly cold and “cut like a knife.”
Thought you might like to know. Here we see the spoon.
I tried that. It did the opposite. Old wives tale.
I made wine with wild Persimmons , a few years ago and everyone that tasted it said it was awesome. It smelled like bread, baking and was really smooth. Did I mention that it was strong ? It would make a rabbit hug a hound ! Y'all will really like it !
Wow... sounds good... thanks
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Make that wine cuz 💪💯
Yes! Make wine with them! I just bought three Persimmon trees today.
I grow about 15 varieties of kaki, Giombo is by far my favorite. It is astringent. My favorite non-astringents are Izu and Tam Kam.
Thanks for the info. I'm picking varieties now :)
alan
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Picked a bunch off some I found growing wild. Ate the good ones and gave the damaged to the hens. Hopefully ten years down the road I'll have a heck of some tough trees around the hen house.
We have common persimmon here in Oklahoma. They grow wild. Our trees have been producing for over 30 years. With the wild persimmons, there are male trees and female trees. They both have flowers, but only the female trees produce fruit.
I think I have 2 on my property too.
alan
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Hi TP 2 I live straight east of you in Ms.have you ever seen fuyu persimmons put up sprouts off their roots?
Yes, they are coming from the "graft"
I would cut them off
My 50 year old persimmon tree died last year. It’s was a great producing tree.
FIFTY YEARS OLD!!
Wow... that is longevity.
alan
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Yes....I would love to learn how to make the wine.
Supposed to be able to predict the winter by cutting open a persimmon seed. If it looks like a fork-mild winter, a knife-cold with cutting winds, spoon-youll be shoveling snow all winter.
Hi TP2 try taking a banana bread recipe and use persimmon instead of banana.Add a few chopped pecans,you will love it.
I've got an amazing banana bread recipe: th-cam.com/video/lKBIeTyS_4Q/w-d-xo.html
I may have to try persimmons.
Thanks,
alan
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I like Fuyu,?but I don't have no persimmon tree,just one fig tree.
Figs are GREAT to grow... and so easy.
I love figs!!
Alright alright alright
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Since vanilla beans are SO expensive now, perhaps you could start making homemade vanilla extract.
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Hmmm... Interesting :)
@@BIGALTX
Oh, vodka is what most people use. However, if you want a much deeper flavor, try using bourbon, OR, spiced rum.
Just a free tip.
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9:40 Persimmon has it's own unique pesticide with that white coating around the fruit, that's why you shouldn't touch the fruit if you're not going to pick it so you don't wipe off that white natural coating unless the bird gets into it then the doors are wide open for the pests.
Interesting... thanks
alan
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I could get over the seeds real quick those look delicious.
They are sooooo sweet!
alan
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Cut into the seed and see if it will tell you what kind of winter well have like a native simmon.
Thank you for the lesson on Persimmon trees. I have been interested in them because I have heard they do great where I live. Just kinda wondering how to preserve them. Very interested in making wine out of the persimmons!!!
Persimmon bread instead of banana bread. Persimmons cooked in with sweet potatoes is great, too.
Mmmmmm.... sounds good.
alan
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Thanks for the information. I have a few persimmons in my garden.
Good for you :)
alan
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Thank you for sharing video have a good day. !
Thank you too
Beautiful trees
Thanks for visiting
Dadgum yea do it!
Hello from a neighbor in Troup! We have a wild, very tall, small fruited, loaded persimmon tree in our yard. Interested in the wine version of this and also the banana bread idea that a few others commented about.
Hey neighbor. You're not far from me.
I'm hoping to do the wine video
Persimmon bread sounds goooood :)
alan
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Virginiana (American) & kaki do not cross pollinate.
Justin Belt, about right except hybrids exist. Eureka and Fuyu are Diospyros Kaki - Asian persimmons
yes on the wine!!!
I hope I have time to do it :)
alan
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Did you make wine?
I did.
The persimmons break down to such a fine particles, it was really hard to strain out.
I would recommend putting them in cheese cloth instead of just putting them in the water/sugar mix.
@@BIGALTX Was it as good as you expected? Did you make a video?
@@tedhall2277 The taste was ok, but it was sooooo hard to strain I won't do it again like that
Interesting information, ty
7:20 oh man its perfect jelly ripe, yum!
Persimmon is my all time favorite fruit. I have tried growing 3..3 different times. The deer killed the first one😢The second (bought from our local feed store) grew to a beautiful wild persimmon🤨...and the third (a Fuyu) was doing beautifully and then just up and died. Someone commented on a Facebook garden group said Fuyu’s are prone to sudden death syndrome😕. I think I’m persimmon jinked.
Dang.... that's terrible!
sorry,
alan
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Your trees might have scion-rootstock rejection. Try buying persimmon trees from another source. Then graft the variety you like to the native persimmon tree.
Was the third one root strangled (pot bound for a long time before replanting) or bark girdled by a lawn mower?
Maybe plant some aromatic herbs in a guild style for a small bit of pest control? Not sure if guild planting herbs & flowers to repel insects may not reach to the canopy. I Persimmon chutney & salsa is pretty amazing. I would absolutely watch another wine video.
I hope to make that video soon,
alan
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Those that get injury say from bird peck and such will often ripen ahead of the others. I am having problems with the fireants getting into my ripe ones. Without dogs I could not leave ripe persimmons on the tree between the possums-raccoons and just about everything that likes ripe asian persimmons. I prefer the astringent persimmons because the critters usually will not go after them until they are ripen one can pick them prior to that and let them ripen inside.
In my area there are a lot wild american persimmons and with patience and persistence one graft on to them successfully with kaki asian grafts.
Something is killing my fuyu persimmons and I suspect something like ambrosia beetles. The astringent persimmons are being mostly left alone. I do get web worm infestations on the american and asian persimmons.
For me the best so far for northwest FL are tao river and saijo persimmons.
Thanks, I'll look into those varieties.
alan
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I remember my first time eating Persimmons as a child was, Persimmon pudding.
I cut up a small Persimmon tree one time that fell in the pasture. I noticed the grain of wood was a pale white. I worked a small section down on a table saw. (I don’t recommend anyone doing this) It was a beautiful piece of wood. I let some craftsman talk me out of it.
In the south they predict the winter weather from the seeds
It is supposed to be a great wood for "woodturners" and golf clubs and other things.
I would think so for turning. Not very hard though. I don’t know about golf clubs but if you say so. Then it is.
Did you predict your winter with the seeds yet?
@@MrSanteeclausNot yet :)
alan
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I ordered some persimmon seeds from online a couple of weeks ago. I think there must have been 25 in the bag, and I planted about 7 of them in a large container. I have never in my life had a persimmon. I have no idea what they taste like. I've seen them in the stores, but didn't know how or when to eat them. So I never bought any. I don't see them too often. But it hurts my heart to see seeds go to waste. I know it is impractical to plant all the seeds we come upon, but all seeds want to do is live. I think I have planted a zillion tomato seeds, and I am going to be in big trouble.
Is there a way i could get some eurika persimmon seeds from you
Not sure... but check with me in November or December.
That's when these will be ripe.
TexasPrepper2 thanks, sure thing
What is your hardiness zone with regards to growing this fruit?
Thanks.
I'm in Zone 8
alan
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Here in Missouri some of our persimmons ripened the first week of September very odd...usually thay don't ripen till November. Usually it takes a cold snap to sweeten them but not this year..
I know... Mine were early too !
alan
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Which has the sweetest fruit of the two fuyu or eureka?
I haven't gotten any Fuyu from my tree yet, but I think Fuyu is better.
Yes, a wine video would be of interest.
I'll try :)
alan
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I’ve never had a persimmon...what fruit would you compare the taste to? You mentioned that the skin is thick, do you eat that or peel it? There’s a persimmon tree in a lot across from my grandson’s house...I just might try one!
Beware!!! You may just fall in love with persimmons the way I did!!!
The ones across the road will probably be an American Persimmon (a native persimmon). If so, it won't be ripe till it's soft. It will be very astringent, so you'll probably have to wait till they drop, or pick a few that are starting to look ripe, and let them ripen in the house.
alan
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Sounds Goo
Interesting information, that fuyu told you uhuh 😆, mabie next year..
Dad gum yes
I just dad gum might ! :)
alan
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our wild ones are real small
Yep...
First rule of fruit trees...NO SQUIRRELS. OTHER WISE THEY WILL LITERALLY strip THEM OVER NIGHT
I've got squirrels everywhere. They eat a lot of pears, and peaches, but I don't think I've ever seen them in a persimmon tree.... don't know why.
alan
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I've never seen a squirrel in a persimmon tree.
I don't mean to pry, Just wondering what county you live in? Asking only so I can apply some of the advice for my area, I live in Coryell, TX . I figure county will provide me an idea without you giving up too much info. Thank in advance and thanks for the tips and tricks of the trade!
smith
If the bugs dont like it I dont either.
Hey! Whys that seed moving? 🤣
lol
Don’t forget, they are native to Texas.
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My tree is about 8 years old and never flowered. Do you need two trees to get fruit?
Some do. They come in male and female.
Most of the Asian varieties are "self-fertile" and don't need a pollinator.
alan
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Do you have problems with deer eating the fruit and tree? That would be my hesitation for planting. I’ve seen the deer eating persimmons from the trees in the woods where we camp in north Mississippi .
I'm sure they would, but if the tree gets 20 feet tall, you'd still get a LOT of fruit that they can't reach. There is actually a variety of persimmon called "Deer Persimmon" because it was developed just for the deer population, i think.
alan
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Are there wild persimmons in North East Texas?
Heck yes. I think wild ones grow over most of the US.
alan
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Do you sell the seeds anywhere?
No... sorry
Does your persimmon tree tend to drop many fruits in late spring/early summer?
Mine does it every year and keeps only 30% or less of fruits until fall.
They ripen fantastically, but I would like to keep more of them.
I had a lot dropping in the last couple of months too, so I think it's normal.
alan
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I just read this:
"Persimmons generally do not need fertilizing, especially since most commercial potting mixes are already enriched. Trees respond by dropping fruit when fed with a high-nitrogen fertilizer."
That might be the problem.
alan
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Don't all persimmons have seeds? The native persimmons we have in the Carolinas has seeds. The fruit is smaller than a golf ball. They have to practically drop on the ground before you eat it. My parents have a tree that is about 30 feet tall. They leave it for the wildlife to enjoy.
Most Asian persimmon don't have seeds and get a LOT bigger than native ones, and can ripen ON the tree.
alan,
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“Persimmon trees are the most carefree trees, bugs don’t like em”. Beetle carrying off with fruit while filming “I’m gonna eat around these bugs” 😆😆😆😆 joking with ya, I do love me some Persimmons!
Make a bet...they get aphids really bad...REALLY BAD.
Why not, teach wine making
Make me some wine with perssimon bread!
I hope I can get it done :)
alan
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Your tree needed food maybe??
I don't know... I feed them pretty often :)
If the Good Lord created anything any better he kept it for himself.
Made me smile :)
alan
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Actually, fruit full of bugs is uninspiring, not to mention unappetizing. Yikes.