Your thoughts and actions are a construct of. society and your upbringing. Reminds me of the girl who was forced to live with the dogs from a very young age and as an adult walked on all fours and barked. So what I think and say is just a regurgitation of whatever the mind was programmed with. Whether barking or speaking. There is no one doing it.
...@12:30 as long as the listener is listening, his only interest is to give continuity to that listener !... ...@19:32 the language is a divisive movement in this living organism. (this organism) is a unitary movement, it cannot separate itself from anything that is happening out there or inside here and to divide and say 'out there' and 'in here' is also a divisive moment there ... (and listen to what he says about peace just after this !)
When we have hunger of knowing reality , it's very easy to gain knowledge but it's very hard to say ... I searched for it everywhere but i do not know the answer yet . U G Krishnamurthi and many people seems to come to conclusions ... And making error. I have strength to say I do not know!!
@@krissifadwa I have seen so many people speaking about spritual realm , transcending ego , all of them were in illusion , UG is right that all gurus , spiritual institutions are wrong . I even say that UG is wrong in several things but he is perfectly right when he says we are trapped in this reality,we can't really go outside of this illusion of self and free will so it's better to accept these illusions as reality
"There is only really one exercise of your free will and that's your choice of what you're going to pay attention to. So in all circumstances your free will boils down to what you choose to pay attention to." Ian Xel Lungold So UG is mistaken. You do have free will.
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 Yes, but some of them are not. My babysitter of my childhood is now 85. Never questioned anything. Well, she prays, still do charitable work, travel. No issues...
@@Beyondabsence Yeah, people gradually stop resisting as they age. Which is why many old folks are either embittered or really easygoing. In her case, she must have just gotten it over time.
@gamer cat ur questions are just empty words. u r just repeating memorized empty words and asking for confirmation. that is ur question. nothing related to normality.
Thank you again Lecturesbeyond for yet another excellent video and thanks for all your work in getting all these videos and audios out. UG 's clarity is so humbling and reassuring and in such a beneficial way.
22:22 "When something hits you that there is NOTHING there to be free from. It will hit you so HARD. That you wouldn't know what is happening there. You will NEVER know what you are left with... Is that my statement? There is nobody who is talking... There is nobody who is listening. Are you listening? I don't listen. Y'see?"
51 years old and still asking the childish question "why am I here?" Such a delusion inducing question. Stop asking such questions and just get on with the business of living.
All that UG was pointing out was missed by the interviewer (may be listerners also), by asking the question,"then who is translating?" check it out at 23:03 minutes of this video. With that question "then who is translating" thought (the 'I') lives on and on and on.
@2:33pm Life is not something that we do, it unfolds on it's own like music. We do feel that we have a say, but really what you Can do is stop Trying. Stop trying to fix yourself, Stop trying to change... This is the beginning of true surrender... Of giving up the false, imaginary character that you take yourself to be.
@2:33pm 'The Master keeps her mind always at one with the Tao (way); that is what gives her her radiance. The Tao is ungraspable. How can her mind be at one with it? Because she doesn't cling to ideas. The Tao is dark and unfathomable. How can it make her radiant? Because she lets it. Since before time and space were, the Tao is. It is beyond is and is not. How do I know this is true? I look inside myself and see.' TAO TE CHING - Lao Tzu
I caught the typo before you fixed it. it is actually not a bad thing to make a typo, shows your human-ness is in really good form :) thanks for new ug video, been listening a long time but have never heard this interview before.
That's not what he's saying. What everyone else means by liberation he would not. He doesn't even believe a liberated man exists or if he does he does not know it.
@@daviddeida yep, you used the word "valuable" if it is something to do without making MONEY. Everything you are taught has the goal of making MONEY nothing more.
@@MikenNinginThai Your comment is a clear projection of what you value in life...lol.Go on entertain me ,what use has it got and UG also said whatever he is saying has no value.
@@daviddeida We can only project what we "see" as value in life. All projections are the out come of thought and this thought the mind is the source of all problems. Any and all things has to have a value, a purpose, a meaning, that was created by thought/mind so nothing matters like U.G. says we all live in hope and die hope the end. Even U.G. could not escape the thought it is impossible as long as the brain is functioning he was merely pointing out the obvious there is NOTHING to change we are all products of culture then we die nothing more nothing less.......
If there is nobody....then who or what haves these thoughts of awakening ? ....but also if there is no awakening...then why I'm struggling with these thoughts? If the listener doesn't care about awakening....why are these thoughts persisting?
@Carla : Repetition is the secret. As long an assumption gets repeated insistingly enough it will turn into a fact for those who buy/believe the doctrines. Same is valid for all mental projections... Repeat and convincing delusion enters .•°
@@jimporter4799 The ego can never really die though. Becoming aware of the ego and experiencing intense ego dissolution has left me with an empty void. It’s a eerie way to live but I have no choice now.
He even says that the words he uses can't really describe it. These sorts of things are hard to put into words. He's not saying there is literally no one, only that there is no enduring person there. The way I think of it we're like bubbles in boiling water. Gone almost as 9on as we appear, and just as important in the grand scheme of things.
There is a faculty of our mind which is conditioned and another faculty which is unconditioned (objective or scientific).Unconditioned faculty can be objectively aware of the problems created by the conditioned faculty and remain free from its grip. I think U G is free from this grip.
No it's the other way around, the false dialectic linguistic accumulation is the awareness, without that this body is not aware, in the same way the heart does not know it is beating, you may exist, but there's no way of you being aware of your existence without that repetition of memory, which is false a reproduction synthetic, artificial, a copy.
We have come here to experience life in “physical “ form... that’s it! However, we suffer because we have forgotten who we truly are and continue to believe we are the physical form/organism 🙏🏼💜🇨🇦
He's all over it, it's Science. Too many folk have been brainwashed by Religion or so called Gurus. Want to know the simple solution to happiness : ask Me!
People equate flexibility with freedom. Flexibility is again a knowledge building process. It helps but don't help in any more. Interesting, question is an erection! It's a response with predictable results. Like Earth trajectory, it's all same. Still We / I am - amazing.
He is not being asked the right questions. He is calling the body a living organism. But has no idea who created this living organism or what is the purpose of it? He suggests all questions are ultimately meaningless and questions arise out of our demand to get answers. But something must be aware of the existence of this living organism. Who is it that's aware of the living organism? He doesn't define what is Reality itself or what is Consciousness? I have listened to a no of his interviews on TH-cam, he speaks a lot about lot of things but doesn't make sense in most of his assertions. He prefers to criticize some of the spiritual masters and established traditional spiritual practices by misquoting their teachings in many cases. Some of his statements are in conformity with the Vedanta philosophy and Indian scriptures but he seems to deny the existence of ultimate Reality itself.
I'm confused....how did he know that's how the internet works nowadays? LOL....idk why I'm laughing because I feel disturbed lol.... Am I miscalculating? Isn't this paralleling in a way content that is spontaneously created the moment you click certain links online? Those pages that do not exist before the click and even those that are modified WITH"personalized" results/articles/videos/pictures at the moment you interact with/click on them? Am I crazy? Or isn't this happening to other people? Or do others seriously surf along completely blissfully unaware of how the internet is behaving today? WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME LOL I'm trying to figure out some weird experiences online recently sorry
This was recorded back in the days on tape and survived for decades and was digitalized eventually. With that in mind it is good compared to how many other audio recordings sound. Your thought process is bad however. How moronic do you have to be not to realize the context?
Terrible comment given the generosity of the uploadet in sharing this at all. But it did make me laugh! I'll use that, though not when someone has been kind and generous.
Reading the comments on a U.G. audio or any other format of recording is the BEST!
Yes, the golden era was 2016-2020. Lots of wits, stories, banter and som good trolling even. Hope a revival is near 😄
@@lecturesbeyondbeyond 😅😅🤣
"A living man would never ask those questions...”
-u.g. Krishnamurti
U.G. is a sage who destroys all your concepts. He doesn't allow you to hold on to any concept. He makes you empty of all illusions.
UG is shattering and destroying all fake personalities and great illusions that people have created about themselves
Your thoughts and actions are a construct of. society and your upbringing. Reminds me of the girl who was forced to live with the dogs from a very young age and as an adult walked on all fours and barked.
So what I think and say is just a regurgitation of whatever the mind was programmed with. Whether barking or speaking. There is no one doing it.
Watch dogtooth
...@12:30 as long as the listener is listening, his only interest is to give continuity to that listener !...
...@19:32 the language is a divisive movement in this living organism. (this organism) is a unitary movement, it cannot separate itself from anything that is happening out there or inside here and to divide and say 'out there' and 'in here' is also a divisive moment there ... (and listen to what he says about peace just after this !)
I have been ostracized most of my 69 years thinking this way : but OMG a pleasure it is to have discovered this NO BS guru.
UG=Ultra GREAT
It is only one U g
When we have hunger of knowing reality , it's very easy to gain knowledge but it's very hard to say ... I searched for it everywhere but i do not know the answer yet .
U G Krishnamurthi and many people seems to come to conclusions ... And making error. I have strength to say I do not know!!
@@nitishgautam5728 We think the answer are in rational words lol but it's not
@@krissifadwa I have seen so many people speaking about spritual realm , transcending ego , all of them were in illusion , UG is right that all gurus , spiritual institutions are wrong . I even say that UG is wrong in several things but he is perfectly right when he says we are trapped in this reality,we can't really go outside of this illusion of self and free will so it's better to accept these illusions as reality
Ug is real guru the one who dispelled illusions
UG destroyer of illusions
Creator of new illusions
The depth of this conversation is unreachable. Anybody who fully grasp the things ug said would crash his "human experience" software.
No free will.... everything goes down the toilet, everything finished! And UG is right
hahaha
I write what I have to in this comment
Absolutely and that is quite depressing but also liberating at the same time.
"There is only really one exercise of your free will and that's your choice of what you're going to pay attention to. So in all circumstances your free will boils down to what you choose to pay attention to." Ian Xel Lungold
So UG is mistaken. You do have free will.
I know many people who don't ask questions, who are not pursuing anything spiritual or philosophical. They work, laugh, eat, go to parties and sleep.
Many are depressed and suicidal. The suffering is still there.
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 Yes, but some of them are not. My babysitter of my childhood is now 85. Never questioned anything. Well, she prays, still do charitable work, travel. No issues...
@@Beyondabsence Yeah, people gradually stop resisting as they age. Which is why many old folks are either embittered or really easygoing. In her case, she must have just gotten it over time.
They can do both but I know what you mean. Takes time, some folks surprise you
@gamer cat ur questions are just empty words. u r just repeating memorized empty words and asking for confirmation. that is ur question. nothing related to normality.
You ain't got a chance !
"there are so many ifs and buts in our peacefully policy"
Thank you again Lecturesbeyond for yet another excellent video and thanks for all your work in getting all these videos and audios out. UG 's clarity is so humbling and reassuring and in such a beneficial way.
Another fantastic audio from the sage. Thanks for uploading.
Another comment from a fool. Thanks for commenting
22:22 "When something hits you that there is NOTHING there to be free from. It will hit you so HARD. That you wouldn't know what is happening there. You will NEVER know what you are left with... Is that my statement? There is nobody who is talking... There is nobody who is listening. Are you listening? I don't listen. Y'see?"
51 years old and still asking the childish question "why am I here?" Such a delusion inducing question. Stop asking such questions and just get on with the business of living.
Haha...good point
[distant sounds of UG interrupting people talking shit]
WTF LOL (-_-;)・・・
too eat because i am hungry is natural thing but to eat steak is cultural thing.
Ok... and? What’s the point of what you said
A thing is A think 💭 .•°
I could listen to ug all day. I would require very little fucking possessions or services to live with.
All that UG was pointing out was missed by the interviewer (may be listerners also), by asking the question,"then who is translating?" check it out at 23:03 minutes of this video. With that question "then who is translating" thought (the 'I') lives on and on and on.
Specify : *memory*
Specify : *experience*
stand by # blink # blink # . . .
.•°
There is Nothing to be free from... The one that is searching for freedom is the Prisson.
@2:33pm Life is not something that we do, it unfolds on it's own like music. We do feel that we have a say, but really what you Can do is stop Trying. Stop trying to fix yourself, Stop trying to change... This is the beginning of true surrender... Of giving up the false, imaginary character that you take yourself to be.
@2:33pm 'The Master keeps her mind
always at one with the Tao (way);
that is what gives her her radiance.
The Tao is ungraspable.
How can her mind be at one with it?
Because she doesn't cling to ideas.
The Tao is dark and unfathomable.
How can it make her radiant?
Because she lets it.
Since before time and space were,
the Tao is.
It is beyond is and is not.
How do I know this is true?
I look inside myself and see.'
TAO TE CHING
- Lao Tzu
@2:33pm The whole 'teaching' is in that poem...
I caught the typo before you fixed it. it is actually not a bad thing to make a typo, shows your human-ness is in really good form :) thanks for new ug video, been listening a long time but have never heard this interview before.
I caught your stupidity before you will ever fix. It's actually not a bad thing to be stupid, shows your dullness is in very good form
Strange comment.
This comment was caught years after it was posted. It shows something somehow... perhaps human.
Excellent pure excellent!
Awesome!
This is a great bit
M Lienau bit what? Ass?
sunil kami Oh please.
I guess liberation dissolves personhood, so there is none remains to ask ‘how’ or ‘why’.
That's not what he's saying. What everyone else means by liberation he would not. He doesn't even believe a liberated man exists or if he does he does not know it.
Because personhood is part of thought/mind, and there is more behind the mind, awareness which is eternal, mind is momentary
This should be taught in elementary school.
Its of no value whatsoever
Absolutely fucking not
@@daviddeida yep, you used the word "valuable" if it is something to do without making MONEY. Everything you are taught has the goal of making MONEY nothing more.
@@MikenNinginThai Your comment is a clear projection of what you value in life...lol.Go on entertain me ,what use has it got and UG also said whatever he is saying has no value.
@@daviddeida We can only project what we "see" as value in life. All projections are the out come of thought and this thought the mind is the source of all problems. Any and all things has to have a value, a purpose, a meaning, that was created by thought/mind so nothing matters like U.G. says we all live in hope and die hope the end. Even U.G. could not escape the thought it is impossible as long as the brain is functioning he was merely pointing out the obvious there is NOTHING to change we are all products of culture then we die nothing more nothing less.......
I don't think the host understood him at all hehe
Alien Observer I think even you didn't
If you understood anything , you're the biggest fool. Hehe
Who?
It’s not meant to be understood
The host did not understand because he was trying to understand what he already knows. People do it to themselves lol
Truth hurts
If there is nobody....then who or what haves these thoughts of awakening ? ....but also if there is no awakening...then why I'm struggling with these thoughts?
If the listener doesn't care about awakening....why are these thoughts persisting?
@Carla : Repetition is the secret.
As long an assumption gets repeated insistingly enough it will turn into a fact for those who buy/believe the doctrines.
Same is valid for all mental projections...
Repeat and convincing delusion enters .•°
The ego wants to die, to end its seemingly endless suffering, but fights 'tooth and nail' to maintain its continuity
@@jimporter4799 The ego can never really die though. Becoming aware of the ego and experiencing intense ego dissolution has left me with an empty void. It’s a eerie way to live but I have no choice now.
He even says that the words he uses can't really describe it. These sorts of things are hard to put into words. He's not saying there is literally no one, only that there is no enduring person there. The way I think of it we're like bubbles in boiling water. Gone almost as 9on as we appear, and just as important in the grand scheme of things.
Some times it's a mental disorder called OCD/obsessive thinking.
There is a faculty of our mind which is conditioned and another faculty which is unconditioned (objective or scientific).Unconditioned faculty can be objectively aware of the problems created by the conditioned faculty and remain free from its grip. I think U G is free from this grip.
No it's the other way around, the false dialectic linguistic accumulation is the awareness, without that this body is not aware, in the same way the heart does not know it is beating, you may exist, but there's no way of you being aware of your existence without that repetition of memory, which is false a reproduction synthetic, artificial, a copy.
We have come here to experience life in “physical “ form... that’s it! However, we suffer because we have forgotten who we truly are and continue to believe we are the physical form/organism 🙏🏼💜🇨🇦
Huh? lol...
Thanks for sharing 🙂
😋
I wonder freedom of words still exist in the system? because what he's saying is dangerious, that is truth.
He's all over it, it's Science.
Too many folk have been brainwashed by Religion or so called Gurus.
Want to know the simple solution to happiness : ask Me!
🎉😊
People equate flexibility with freedom. Flexibility is again a knowledge building process. It helps but don't help in any more. Interesting, question is an erection! It's a response with predictable results. Like Earth trajectory, it's all same. Still We / I am - amazing.
That's crazy at 7:52
I am nothing
I?
Incomprehensible.
How and Why??
😂😂
He is not being asked the right questions. He is calling the body a living organism. But has no idea who created this living organism or what is the purpose of it? He suggests all questions are ultimately meaningless and questions arise out of our demand to get answers. But something must be aware of the existence of this living organism. Who is it that's aware of the living organism?
He doesn't define what is Reality itself or what is Consciousness?
I have listened to a no of his interviews on TH-cam, he speaks a lot about lot of things but doesn't make sense in most of his assertions. He prefers to criticize some of the spiritual masters and established traditional spiritual practices by misquoting their teachings in many cases.
Some of his statements are in conformity with the Vedanta philosophy and Indian scriptures but he seems to deny the existence of ultimate Reality itself.
This life is illusion it's all maya
if i start torturing you, you will have same philosophy?
I'm confused....how did he know that's how the internet works nowadays? LOL....idk why I'm laughing because I feel disturbed lol.... Am I miscalculating? Isn't this paralleling in a way content that is spontaneously created the moment you click certain links online? Those pages that do not exist before the click and even those that are modified WITH"personalized" results/articles/videos/pictures at the moment you interact with/click on them? Am I crazy? Or isn't this happening to other people? Or do others seriously surf along completely blissfully unaware of how the internet is behaving today? WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME LOL I'm trying to figure out some weird experiences online recently sorry
So the trap we are trying to escape from isn't actually there no is the "trapped" shut up !
Do we have free will?
Chandler C some do
A matter of perspective
No
Free Willy
+Sankaran V
talk for yourself
You call this good audio? What else do you call good, hell?
This was recorded back in the days on tape and survived for decades and was digitalized eventually. With that in mind it is good compared to how many other audio recordings sound. Your thought process is bad however. How moronic do you have to be not to realize the context?
Ok but one can understand it easily😌
Terrible comment given the generosity of the uploadet in sharing this at all. But it did make me laugh! I'll use that, though not when someone has been kind and generous.
what a load of twaddle
That's exactly what UG is saying in a roundabout way.
To addle the mind