Is this racquet only for pros? HEAD Prestige Pro 16/19

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  • @randrothify
    @randrothify 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I play with the 2021 Tour 16x19 with Auxetic 1.0. I think that the key with these frames is to string them at a tension that you can handle. The reason that these can feel difficult to play with besides the small head size is that people try to emulate the pros in every possible way without considering their ability. It’s already tough enough using a frame designed for advanced players, but then stringing it too tight with an unforgiving poly and adding weight that reduces the headlight balance makes it unplayable for most. Instead, swallow your pride and try a softer poly or hybrid setup in the 40s tension-wise. And if you want to add weight to boost the swing weight, add it to the handle so that the maneuverability is still there, which is what I expect is what most people playing prestige’s are after since it seems like anyone that plays them has a one-hander and an attacking all-court game. I’d wager that most people have enough weight in the head because of the CAP grommet/bumper system. I usually go with a hybrid setup at 44 pounds in the mains and 46 in the crosses. It still won’t be as forgiving as a tweener racquet or a spin/power frame but it will feel plush and comfortable and you should be able to get decent depth and pace.

  • @matteo4413
    @matteo4413 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    After ~3-4 years with the 2019 Prestiges, I am finally giving in and moving to an easier frame 😅Love the Prestiges but so difficult to get the most out of them (i'm only NTRP 4.5) and i'm not as young as I used to be lol

    • @JD-767
      @JD-767 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Going to the Gravity Pro from 13 years of various Prestige racquets, I can honestly say it’s changed everything for me. So much better in defence and digging out of the corners. So much more forgiving and faster through the air too.

    • @Stu49583
      @Stu49583 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@JD-767"gravity pro faster through the air" - said no one ever before

    • @JD-767
      @JD-767 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Stu49583 compared to Prestige i was using yes. Lower stock swingweight

    • @Stu49583
      @Stu49583 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JD-767 wow, okay, so older prestige models have that much higher SW than newer ones? My 2019 and 2021 prestige models have a swingweight around 327, so they felt easier to swing compared to the gravity pro, especially the 93sq mid.

    • @JD-767
      @JD-767 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Stu49583 mine are 340 SW stock. Gravity pro 330 SW and a lot more forgiving. Overall better racquet for today’s game

  • @CuongNguyen-do6qs
    @CuongNguyen-do6qs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After watching your review of the prestiges 2021, I switched from my blades v7 18x20 to prestige mp 2021 18x19 (310 grams). Right off the bat, I already found prestige mp to be more controlled and stable at the net and for return of serve than my customized blade (4 grams each at 3 & 9).The feel is much livelier and more buttery than my blade. Prestige mp has slightly more spin than blade, so I could hit flat and topspin shots more consistently I could from the baseline without sailing the ball out. The downside is that it lacks power for serve, quite stiff and has smaller sweet spot. Stringing Solinco hyper G at 22.5kg, I often got some shoulder pain after playing intensively for a long period of time. I decided to put lead tapes like Djokovic's set up (1 to 5 and 7 to 11), bringing the racquets up to 359grams total. My opponents said that my serve has way more pace and my groundstroke is much heavier. The lead tapes enlarged the sweet spot and seemed to remove the vibration and shoulder pain. My only problem now is swinging the racquet without getting tired in competitive matches.

  • @pixlmyst
    @pixlmyst 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've been playing the Prestige Tour Auxetic 1.0 with a 16x19 for a little while now (stock), and I have to say that I absolutely adore it. As long as I keep my feet active to hit the ball in the right place, then the ball drops in the court exactly where I want it to. It's a racquet where you only get out what you put in to it, but you'll be rewarded if you put the effort in.
    I wouldn't be recommending it to most players I know, but for someone with a long swing that knows how to generate a lot of power and spin from technique, there is no better racquet.

    • @steveschaeffer5999
      @steveschaeffer5999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I play the the 18x20 version and I love it but feel I need a little bit higher launch and more spin. Do you feel that it is different enough to make it worth it to try the 16x19?

    • @Dabnaa
      @Dabnaa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@steveschaeffer5999 for sure

  • @badmice1
    @badmice1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm from the US and imported this racquet from TWE. Compared to the PT630, this racquet provides less free power or spin, and basically, swinging anything less than 80% of your typical speed will result in a short ball. Having said that, if you are a fit player who commits to full swings, the precision is unreal. To compensate for the lack of free power, I have strung down about 5-10%, and added about 3-4g of lead at 12 o'clock. This racquet may benefit from much lower tension.

  • @kylem.4114
    @kylem.4114 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I actually prefer the Prestige Tour or a customized Prestige MPL over the pro. I think the tour has a thicker or stiffer hoop that gives it a more connected feel.

  • @kenmccarthy5025
    @kenmccarthy5025 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I`m a Prestige player but I play with two older 2019 red pro, 95 in models, It`s what I prefer, and yes it`s a demanding racquet, but to me, it`s worth it for the precision and yes, I prefer to play with a one hand backhand, which I believe this racquet excels at. I have a 2019 MP, 98 in Prestige also which I like when using the two hand backhand.

  • @PrecisionPointTennis
    @PrecisionPointTennis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I agree with you fully. One thing: the 2021 Head Prestige Tour (with a bit of added weight) is WAY BETTER even if it’s a smaller head size. I’ve tried them all and I love my 2023 Head Gravity Pro (lots of lead tape added and a SW of 360) with Alu power at 26/25 kilos. Now we’re talking!

    • @makaan5516
      @makaan5516 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Prestige Tour 95sq in Auxetic (2021 and 2023) is a fantastic racquet. On par with RF97A in terms of control but much more forgiving and easy to use. The power level is a bit lower though

    • @murilo3123
      @murilo3123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I play with Gravity Pro 2023... I love it! I only would like to have a better OHBH... i can handle it, but it's a little bit slow... How do you compare Prestige Pro 16x19 to Gravity Pro? is it too much more demanding?

    • @makaan5516
      @makaan5516 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@murilo3123 Prestige Pro is very underpowered, even 16x19. Prestige Tour plays better IMO

    • @murilo3123
      @murilo3123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@makaan5516 thanks!! But how do you compare both to Gravity Pro?

    • @makaan5516
      @makaan5516 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@murilo3123haven’t played with gravity pro, only with its grandfather - 2011 IG Speed Pro 98 (335g, 18mm beam), but not sure these are comparable. Never liked its head shape. I played with Wilson Six One Tour 90, shifting to RF97A and now moved to Prestige Tour (2021 and 2023 in my bag). I tested Pro Staff 97 v13/14, Prestige pro 18/20 and 16/19, Radical Pro and some Babolats (which are immediately not my thing at all). Of all, Prestige Tour is my favorite. I’m a lefty all-court with 2 handed BH.

  • @lucamolenhof3747
    @lucamolenhof3747 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Big fan from Argentina

    • @mattiastennis
      @mattiastennis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And there is many here who are fans of Argentina

    • @matisms
      @matisms 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      +1

  • @movdqa
    @movdqa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been playing with the Prestige MP 18x20 since 2011 (though the MP could now be the Pro with the renaming a few years ago). Part of the reason for the Prestige, though, is the precision and why. On Andy, he's getting more easy depth on his groundstrokes with the Ezone and he probably should have switched some time ago. I don't think that I'd want a 16x19 Prestige. If I wanted more spin or power, I'd go with something that was designed for it like the RF97. On the lady hitting - I don't see very many forehands that aren't modern forehands anymore.
    I have weight between 10 and 2 and it works well. I think that the Prestige is already stable so lead at 3/9 isn't as efficient in using the least amount of lead tape. The paint job looks great. Dark maroon is classic.
    I just looked at the price of these - quite the shocker. That's what happens when your racquets are 13 years old and you haven't bought one in ages.

  • @mteca5093
    @mteca5093 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    58 RA WITH dampeners all over the frame. .what were you expecting,??? Try 360+ or auxetic 1. In the tour 16x19 95inch or the MPL

  • @余承恩-l8r
    @余承恩-l8r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Added some weight to the 1619 2021 prestige S and it became the best racquet i have ever played. Got the stability, power, and manuverbility. The prestige 2021 mp was a totally different racquet though, would like to try the frame with 1619 pattern

  • @wlkdesign
    @wlkdesign 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    String the Prestige in the low 40s and feel it come alive! .. im playing with Head Velocity at 40/42lbs .. it makes the racket usable for a good club player, give it a go! you wont be disapointed

    • @rikkipapa384
      @rikkipapa384 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is true. I've had this racquet for a few months. If you string it at your regular tension you will wonder if you should be lifting weights, but string it 45 or sub 45 and you will have something more in line with 50 on other racquets.

    • @randrothify
      @randrothify 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. Unless you are a very strong player there’s no need to string a racket like the Prestige in the 50s, especially if it is one of the models with a 95 head. String it a reasonable tension and with thin enough gauge and the sweetspot should expand to make it more forgiving. In terms of adding weight, the frames should have enough mass concentrated in the head due to the smaller head size and cap grommet/bumper that you don’t need to add lead tape. This should help with keeping it maneuverable enough that you don’t have to overhaul your footwork, stroke length, or timing to make these playable for most players if they like the feel or look of the racket.

  • @neertw
    @neertw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Microgel Prestige MP 18x20 was amazing.

    • @FHslicefan
      @FHslicefan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Microgel series were the best. Head even relaunched the radical microgel a few years ago, so I bought 5 and will never go back again hahahaa

  • @sean9267
    @sean9267 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I played a 18x20 Prestige since juniors in 2004; believe it was a Liquidmetal. The new lineup is confusing at best. I miss when the 16x19 was the 'Pro' and that was really the only difference from the MP. Head Graphene Prestige Pro 2014 Model G2 was probably my favorite of the bunch with a leather grip and little lead at 3/6. Kinda moved on to Yonex for easy power. Played a Vcore 95 with lead and now a stock Ezone 98 Tour. Still hit sometimes with a 2021 Prestige Pro (18x20) for the nostalgia and may go back to a 16x19 Prestige when the next gen drops.

  • @Bambotb
    @Bambotb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do you compare it to prestige tour

  • @ahjonjon
    @ahjonjon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the 360+ MP and its good. But after getting an old Microgel Mid, then the classic 2.0, the MP felt way too sluggish with that 98 head.
    Definitely takes more work, but my serving feels way better on those small heads. And the control is noticeably better too. And you really know when you mishit.
    When i tried Auxetic Pro, it was way too mushy. For a bit more forgiveness i picked up a 16x19 360+ mid, and man, that has THE best feel for a 1hbh (and I'm a 2hbh user). Also appreciate the extra margin over the net, and still fast swing speed with the 93 head.

  • @SaqibSheikh
    @SaqibSheikh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks like a beauty. Would love to try it.

  • @OG_Arken
    @OG_Arken 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Jonas, the problem I see with the 16x19 Prestige is the lack of swingweight, Tennisrally also said it. I also have a 2019 Prestige mp and I'm trying to make it more competitive. I recently tested it using Yonex Poly Tour pro 1.20 at 20kg and now it's very good for topspin mantaining the precision, also I can play flat whenever I want. The only problem is that it's still a Prestige, sometimes my ball lands short or at the net but that's not the racket fault. I probably will try adding lead at 3 and 9. I'm also using a Prokennex Black Ace 315 and I can't choose between these two 😅

  • @Limekiln100
    @Limekiln100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing review .Best by a long way.

  • @BillyWander-k4m
    @BillyWander-k4m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2023 Prestige MP is massively underrated. 18x19 pattern, 21.5mm beam, 62 stiffness and a 99sq in head. Sw is about 330 strung. God tier frame

  • @aguliner
    @aguliner 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big fan of your videos. My comment is unrelated to the prestige… I’m from the US and noticed you are wearing a nordicdots shirt. And wanted to call out I have their white tennis bag - which I love and get tons of compliments on! They have a very small presence here in the US wondering if you have seen their bag? Anyway, Keep up the good work - Love your videos!

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! I have not tried their bag, but I will check it out. They do very high quality stuff, so I am not surprised.

    • @gregorydeandrade1420
      @gregorydeandrade1420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @tennisnerd great video! I have a question, I also loved the red prestige pro stock 345.2 ( 16x19) set up. I got it from ringroll. I recently purchased the new prestige’s from them same pro stock 345.2 but it does not feel the same as the red prestige from 2019. Michael from ringroll said is the same racquet but I could definitely feel the new ones way more stiffer and stable. I even start to feel my wrist hurting with the new ones. Do you also feel the same ? And do you know if the 2019 TGT 345.2 is the same as the newest TGT 345.2 ? It supposed to be the same but is definitely not. Thank you

  • @trenerpotennisu
    @trenerpotennisu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I play with classic 600 or Pro Staff 90 (sometimes with wooden) and all new sticks with bigger head size have a lot of power for me))

    • @Alan-q3c
      @Alan-q3c 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too man. I play with I.prestige mid or ps 85s. Newer raquets feel like hitting with a garbage can lid.

  • @gregorydeandrade1420
    @gregorydeandrade1420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Jonas,
    great video as always!!I have a question, I also loved the red prestige pro stock 345.2 ( 16×19) set up. I got it from ringroll. I recently purchased the new prestige’s from them same pro stock 345.2 but it does not feel the same as the red prestige from 2019. Michael from ringroll said is the same racquet but I could definitely feel the new ones way more stiffer and stable. I even start to feel my wrist hurting with the new ones. Do you also feel the same ? And do you know if the 2019 TGT 345.2 is the same as the newest TGT 345.2 ? It supposed to be the same but is definitely not. Thank you,
    Greg

  • @jordanbalint2031
    @jordanbalint2031 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder what it’d be like to go to this from a liquid metal prestige mid. Mine are around 350-60g which is a lot to slug. Feels great..for an hour haha

  • @TheTennisDaddy
    @TheTennisDaddy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven’t tried the 2023 Pro as by all reviews it just sounds a bit too demanding compared to the Tour, I love the Tour however, 95sq head is quick though the the air and it’s quite manoeuvrable..44LBS with Lynx👌They come strung way too tight, still felt soft off the ground with the higher tension but was an arm shredder on serves

  • @astoica83
    @astoica83 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The grip seems to have gotten bigger, correct? Compared to the prestige 2019. I also don’t like the feeling with the new prestige.

  • @Brudda97
    @Brudda97 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey jonas, just wondering how much lead is in 3 and 9 and is that a 4 & 1/2 gripsize or a 4 & 3/8? Cheers!

  • @Bambotb
    @Bambotb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    wow who is lea she plays good one handed

  • @jamestan4165
    @jamestan4165 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Beautiful cosmetic on this generation of the Prestige.
    (btw - don't think we all haven't noticed that that Prince is still there on the stringer!)

    • @richardsong4046
      @richardsong4046 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol that Phantom will never get played

    • @jamestan4165
      @jamestan4165 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@richardsong4046 😆

  • @experientialtennispickleball
    @experientialtennispickleball 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Comparison to the Prince Tour 95 (2015)?

  • @Rick-ou6wy
    @Rick-ou6wy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are some of the best strings that compliment the Prestige pro? I've been using Lynx Tour 1.25. It's nice, but feels a little sluggish and underpowered.

  • @Tennis040
    @Tennis040 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it. Played it for 25 years but now I'm too old and too slow to swing full pace for 3 to 4 hours on a Quick double unbeatable on yolleys but on Singles i prefer the ezone 98 it gives me 30% for free

    • @TheBlessedLion
      @TheBlessedLion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂…same by me…with 55, you need more free power…I switched to Toalson S-Mach 97…

  • @AtisJ
    @AtisJ หลายเดือนก่อน

    2021 Prestige MP L (16x19 ) after 1999 Ti.Radical (18x20) feels like a cheater racquet, same SW at 315g on both, and low 24kgs tension. Used to be Top-10 on National level juniors (U-14,U16) just getting back as recreational player, it`s fascinating how much technical information is now available.

  • @LL-kz1qe
    @LL-kz1qe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The weight it is fine the balance maybe needs to even so to reduce weight to the handle . But is for medium pace swing style whenn the game becomes faast

  • @overdrive_tennis
    @overdrive_tennis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this racquet muted as the Wilson Countervail racquets?

  • @magnusrolandsson
    @magnusrolandsson 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please do the new Prestige MP L too!

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I did, last year 👍🏻

  • @Alan-q3c
    @Alan-q3c 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nowadays raquets feel like trying to hit with a garbage can lid. Ill stick with my prestige 600s and PS85s. Does anyone think one of todays players hit a harder forehand than DelPotro did 20 years ago? The answer is No. Sir.

    • @caleblandin7601
      @caleblandin7601 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea that's fair, I play on pro tour 280's (the made in Austria version), and love them.

    • @Renaud-n5f
      @Renaud-n5f 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No doubt that the quality of modern racquets Is crap but..to win a 3 set match with a ps85 or a pc600 against an opponent with a Pure drive you need to be a very classic or a much better player. And that's reality unfortunately, the average player is not Pete Sampras or Goran Ivanisevic.

  • @Rey_st
    @Rey_st 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i’m still using prestige pro graphene xt😅

  • @bigrobsydney
    @bigrobsydney 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Jonas,
    I've tried a few of these rackets, but cant get past my modified Yonex DR98 (alu power 52 lbs). That is very sweet when freshly strung, amazing power, and good launch angle. For someone 6"4', I'll take the power on the serve any day to set up the +1.
    Anyway, I'm going to be at Sergio's from July 6th for 3 weeks. I would love to finally come and say hi in person, and maybe have a hit if you're around.
    Best,
    Rob

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Rob, sounds good, I am travelling in July but if you are there for 3 weeks I might see you towards the end of your stay and we hit some 🎾

  • @flodar1548
    @flodar1548 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    probbaly good racket to train / rally but too demanding for match

  • @MartynCollins
    @MartynCollins 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My son demoed this in the United States.

  • @syncbox
    @syncbox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer 16x19 over 18x20

  • @brandomaxwell
    @brandomaxwell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This drop is only a day old and already 7 nerdlings have written in to say they prefer the Tour over the Pro as a more forgiving and powerful Prestige. Consider me #8. Is TK291 becoming an underground celeb?

  • @TheBlessedLion
    @TheBlessedLion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You girlfriend is hitting great, good footwork…!😊

    • @Tennisnerd
      @Tennisnerd  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hehe, she is a good friend and excellent player 👏🏻

  • @bushmenaa
    @bushmenaa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I play with the red one 18/20. I like it but i havent tried the new and i have old black 16/19 witch i still haven tried :)

  • @johnnyguitar6697
    @johnnyguitar6697 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Prestige Classic 2.0. End of.