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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มิ.ย. 2014
  • A film by Artem Ivantsov from "Between Two Iberias" project, proving the Kartvelian (Georgian) linguistic past of Spanish Iberia.
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  • @shentsaceve5642
    @shentsaceve5642 7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Finally! Great video! As a native Spanish speaker, my Georgian friend and I were wondering the vast correlation of kartulad and Español! dzala ertobashia indeed! didi madloba zmao!

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Араприс!

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Приглашаю на фейсбук. Там каждый день что-то новое. facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011149625225

  • @georgeswift984
    @georgeswift984 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    viva a los dos Iberias!

  • @FreshPrincce
    @FreshPrincce 9 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thank you very much for this!

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FreshPrincce Don't mention!

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Приглашаю на фейсбук. Там каждый день что-то новое. facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011149625225

    • @leopard2tamara136
      @leopard2tamara136 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      apxazetis drosha)) mec ese vpikrob.

  • @besikgurgenidze191
    @besikgurgenidze191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You made me even prouder of being a Georgian 🤘❤️

  • @lestatdelioncourt5550
    @lestatdelioncourt5550 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video.Hail Iberia!

  • @josevicentejimenez9070
    @josevicentejimenez9070 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    MUCHISIMAS GRACIAS POR ESTE REGALO, me enseñaste aun mas cosas de mi tierra, me enorgullece saber que tal vez tenga antepasados georgianos, no en vano esto es la península ibérica, tiene sentido, pues los celtas eran indoeuropeos

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      De nada, amigo

    • @TommyFenyx
      @TommyFenyx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nuestra tierra es muy afortunada por tener una mezcla cultural tan rica, deberíamos profundizar más en todos nuestros orígenes. A mi me maravilla y me encantaría descubrir mucho más.

  • @christian78478
    @christian78478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really interesting. Great Vid.

  • @maverick7873
    @maverick7873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    the first in Iberia peninsula were the Iberians from Georgia.

  • @dinaramachaidze88
    @dinaramachaidze88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If anybody still don't know: It is well known fact, that the first European was GEORGIAN.

  • @chetosco
    @chetosco  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The HQ copy may be downloaded here. Feel free to distribute:
    mega.co.nz/#!0toxma4T!e0LU5lsuleXYv4ofJCJQbFTEpJArXKSYXOnAqeZxwFk
    www.4shared.com/video/GlpuLrJqce/BTI_eng.html

  • @merani2011
    @merani2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    გაგიმარჯოს!

  • @oliverheldens1046
    @oliverheldens1046 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Iberia 😍 empire 😍😍😍😍

  • @GiorgiGachechiladze02
    @GiorgiGachechiladze02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Georgians have both Eti and Ani. Like villages Gurjaani, Jughaani , Melaani, Mukuzani, Niniani, Kutchatani and so on... mainly in Kakheti region. Oh and Artaani in Artvin region ancient Iberia and Diaokh, Now in Turkey and etc.

    • @grawakendream8980
      @grawakendream8980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      -iani is the suffix of svans name, probably closer to proto-georgian than other kart langauges

  • @PattyFan01
    @PattyFan01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Wow! Wow! So enlightening. Thank you.

  • @TommyFenyx
    @TommyFenyx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Es impresionante todo lo que he aprendido aquí en este video. Muchísimas gracias por el trabajo de investigación que habéis hecho. Espero encontrar muchas más conexiones entre las dos Ibérias.

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      De nada, amigo!

  • @hordadourada4538
    @hordadourada4538 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another question that must be analyzed is the fact that the names of the Iberian tribes are only conjectured in the Greco-Latin observations in the confused words of the haitantes using their own dialects of their identification languages ​​and not native in itself. Prefixes - '' Ani and Ati '' are present in many Indo-European languages ​​and not in the pre-Indo-European languages ​​in which the Spanish Iberian languages ​​are belonged. Another question is the names of places in Georgias using the same prefixes of the names of the Hispanic tribes, which may be coincidences because the words are almost alike, but their alphabetic and dialectical syllabic meanings are different from the Spanish Iberians. It was as I said earlier that there are similar prefixes in many different languages ​​with almost the same syllabic sounds but not with the same meanings of identifications with each other. Another issue is also the fact that most of the names of Spanish Iberian city-states already exist from the beginning of the Bronze Age until the end of the Iron Age, being modified in the archaic period up to the height of the full Iberian Spanish period, as the kingdom Kartly and most of the Caucasian Iberian cities have only existed since the end of the Bronze Age or the beginning of the Iron Age lasting until the period of Persian domination without any parallel connection with the Iberian cities of Spain which are older.

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't retell the bullshit from the historical textbooks here, please. I'm not even to get into all that stuff.

    • @iberianbeats
      @iberianbeats 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      from the word e-sp-an-ia sp=37 37-laz and gza-way.Lazeti is one of the kingdoms in Georgia.
      an =1 The first letter in Georgian alphabet
      .
      The word Spain in Georgian alphabet means "this is the first way".
      Also the word denoting the "spa" army. The spa is also a word for many people.
      and
      Digit 147. Road pyramid height 147 meters
      147 to convert to digits
      , 100 Rae +40 man +7 Zen
      =RAMZE.

  • @tamazveliadze298
    @tamazveliadze298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like!

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Гмадлобт!

  • @tinigiorgadze3203
    @tinigiorgadze3203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do any of y’all speak Georgian? Anyone? I mean, sí, hablo un poco de español, y puedo entender que dice, pero quiero leer los comentarios Georgianos 😂

    • @GEO_ANIMATOR
      @GEO_ANIMATOR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      გამარჯობა hello and yes

  • @jeffreyhawthornegoines8727
    @jeffreyhawthornegoines8727 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is fascinating, but, mysteriously, leaves France completely out. Why? Basque is spoken on both sides of the Pyrenees; so is Catalan. The Aquitanian language also had a rather wide territory. Why are such good authors deciding to leave out a part of this same heritage? This does not make sense to me

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. France is not left out. Here it is waht you are saying about: th-cam.com/users/edit?o=U&video_id=0N_yCRM_Xrs
      th-cam.com/video/48pd4Kkv4oY/w-d-xo.html

  • @maverick7873
    @maverick7873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:46 TARTESS...TARTESSOS old people in Spain ...got it?

  • @giorgieliashvili5076
    @giorgieliashvili5076 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Suaridze-Suares 😂

  • @giogvarianashvili6309
    @giogvarianashvili6309 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really great research done, but... I doubt it has any scientific basis.

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You are killing me, my Georgian friend. The research destroys totally the very academic paradigma in both linguistics and history. What basis are you seeking? On this same profile you'll find the 18-hours lecture of mine overwhelmed with scientific stuff. The approach is fully scientific being strictly morphologic-semantic. Words are split into morphemes (which are Kartvelian) and the meaning of the revealed root is explained semantically (again, only from the Kartvelian point of view). Don't doubt anymore.

    • @giogvarianashvili6309
      @giogvarianashvili6309 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      chetosco​ I will watch it... May be my Armenian friends got to me... and I lost faith... Sorry I do respect all the work you did here... You did several tranlations as well. Thank you.

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Tell your Armenian friends that all their surnames '-ian'-endings, in fact, are Georgian '-iani'. The root will always be Georgian too. The best example would be ჯიგარხანიან as a derivation from ჯიგარი ხანი.

    • @giogvarianashvili6309
      @giogvarianashvili6309 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      chetosco Thank you I started watching your lectures.

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Приглашаю на фейсбук. Там каждый день что-то новое. facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011149625225

  • @kwanculturel8724
    @kwanculturel8724 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    All or most large countries are made up of numerous smaller entities forced or willingly brought together. that doesnt mean they were totally indigenous. the dominant tribe or people; peoples usually absorbs everyone hence english mother tongue from the lowlands friesia was virtually unknown until fairly recently.

  • @hordadourada4538
    @hordadourada4538 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But a plausible theory that I can also give about this supposed relationship between the Georgians and the Spaniards is the probable question of the Kartvelian Iberians being an autochthonous tribe of Asia correlated with the Spanish Iberians separately as the Basques and Aquitans are unconnected maternally. It may also be that the Kartvelians are cousins of the Iberians only and not descendants or ancestors of the Iberians of Spain.

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They may be unconnected maternally (who has a right to claim so?), but 3/4 of France are overwhelmed with Basque toponyms (ending in -ak).

    • @niconicoo5661
      @niconicoo5661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why are you trying so hard to prove the video wrong

  • @hordadourada4538
    @hordadourada4538 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Or it may be the opposite, because the Spanish Iberians have genes from the oldest inhabitants of Europe, ie genes that inherited from the same people of the Mesolithic and Neolithic Spanish who came from North Africa with both nomadic caravans and sailing through the Mediterranean sea because DNA proves this through biologists. It may be that the Kartvelian Iberians came from Spain from the same period when bell-shaped culture spread from Spain to eastern Europe reaching as far as present-day Georgia near Colchis and not the other way around. The oldest Iberians proven by biologists through archeology, lies in Spain and not in Georgia. Therefore, to say that the Spanish descended from the Georgians is already absurd!

    • @chetosco
      @chetosco  5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The Basque name of Bilbao - BILBO - exists ONLY in the Pshav dialect of Georgian language. Basques themselves have no idea about their capital's meaning. So, who came where?

    • @zuuzuuka
      @zuuzuuka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Im Georgian and I must concede that too often it is assumed that migration stemmed from the Caucasus when discussing these things. There's good reason to reverse the theories. Its just theres such an embedded tradition of ExCaucasian migration, with the whole Celtic, Ginger, Indo-European prevailing theories (none of them fully proven) that whenever theres any affinity between peoples of Caucasus (Georgians being the only indigenous group left in the region) and a different geographic group, its always assumed that migration occured from the Caucasus. But you're right, it could've occured from north Africa or Spain, or maybe, and this is what I believe, there's no real connection, only forcing together of similarities. But I'd be delighted to be related to Spaniards, you guys have an illustrious history, it would be nice to be proud of you as one would be proud of a cousin.