I've got an XL and the new filling procedure significantly improved my smarties upper body. I think if I were going to do it a third time these are my lessons learned and what improved the upper body. Everything the video says is spot on with the toroso head and joints. No complaints. Much more resilient, flexible and lighter which is actually much more usable without making it feel like it too light (like it doesnt have mass). I used a stuffing tool which was basically a golf club shaft which gave great reach. I cut off the club head, wrapped it in duct tape to get rid of any edges that might tear stuff and the club grip made it really easy to use. For the limbs I would suggest a different type of fabric. I think its nylon or polyester but its the very light synthetic kind of dress material that you see on fancy dresses. I also found thin jersey material to work well. This stuff is super slippery and fills the limbs well. I thought it would not be soft enough but it works great, fills easily and is soft but not bouncy. I made the mistake of trying to use "softer" material in the legs but it never really spreads out well and the legs ended up too stiff and lumpy. Material like terrycloth towels should never be considered for legs and I would avoid it due to weight in the toroso. Material like the fleece wipers seemed to yield a lumpy result and was still harder to push in around the pool noodles even with my tool. It seems like anything cotton is heavier and lumpier than a thin synthetic material. I could really get the slippery material to continue spiraling and wrapping around the noodles which I think is the key to reducing lumps. I found a 3.5" pool noodle to be too thick for the legs and wish I had used the 3" ones I had in reserve. If I could do the legs again I would use the slippery material, 3" pool noodles to help with filling and also with final flexibility around the knees. In addition it might be worth considering polyfill at the knees since it helped so much with the other joints.
I’d like to personally thank you for taking me in until I quit in 2020, thank you Patrick for having taught me to defend myself as a boy. I will miss Effective Martial Arts for sure, but I know that if you will ever go back it will be great
Thanks for the video. Your fill procedure is great, lots of good ideas. I filled mine with poly and clothes rags only a while ago so it's going to stay like this for me, but for your future customers, pre filled looks like a great option. I personally really like the dummy.
Thanks for the new video. Mine has always felt a little difficult to move around the arms and legs (I stuffed it myself), so it looks like a lot more Poly is needed (I only have it in the hands and feet), and maybe I'll add the noodles as well.
I got mine prefilled and within less than a month the shoulders are so floppy he can’t stay in turtle anymore… I hesitate to put extra stuffing in but… idk how else to fix it
I’ve refilled my 2.0 about 3 times now and have resigned myself to the fact that the joint areas will always become ‘floppy’ over time as the material separates. This is probably the only flaw in the dummy.
@@bensouthwest Yeah this is super annoying. If I were rich enough I’d buy a Roll Bot no questions asked. Too bad there’s no “low tech” roll bot style dummies out there that don’t need stuffing
I have refilled mine about two times but I always have the same issue. The area by the hip joints always become divided and so the legs start hanging down. It looses stiffeness in the hips after one training session..
It’s normal for all the joints to loosen up with training. That’s why we strive to achieve the optimal compression that will not be too stiff when new, but still offer good durability over time. Hope this helps!
Are you serious. I’ve purchased the unfilled version of the extra large and there was no videos explaining about the poly fill in the shoulders and hips area. I was told to put it in the hands feet and head. I’ve put 60 pounds of shredded material but the shoulders and hips separate the material inside. which then makes the arms and legs lie limp in the joints for the shoulders and hips. There wasn’t any information about pool noodles. I now have to purchase more material and repack it for the third time this product is just a leather version of the canvas version ring to cage, grappling dummy definitely overpriced. Wish you would’ve came out with this information. About three months ago. It would’ve helped me out tremendously.😢
is it not bad work way your guys sitting on floor the whole day do this , why they do not work on large table like everywhere production / assembly line work ? thanks
accept the packing slip for mine Cleary said "Pakistan". I've had it for a few months, and i am finally starting to think i have overstuffed it. it won't sit up, and FORGET guard you can do nothing.
Crazy to think you shut down your school and turned away all your students just so you can make these. You could have found a way to do it without closing the school.. maybe u lost your passion for teaching. Very greedy. I guess that’s what society is making of us all.. all that counts is the dollar
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I've got an XL and the new filling procedure significantly improved my smarties upper body. I think if I were going to do it a third time these are my lessons learned and what improved the upper body. Everything the video says is spot on with the toroso head and joints. No complaints. Much more resilient, flexible and lighter which is actually much more usable without making it feel like it too light (like it doesnt have mass).
I used a stuffing tool which was basically a golf club shaft which gave great reach. I cut off the club head, wrapped it in duct tape to get rid of any edges that might tear stuff and the club grip made it really easy to use.
For the limbs I would suggest a different type of fabric. I think its nylon or polyester but its the very light synthetic kind of dress material that you see on fancy dresses. I also found thin jersey material to work well. This stuff is super slippery and fills the limbs well. I thought it would not be soft enough but it works great, fills easily and is soft but not bouncy.
I made the mistake of trying to use "softer" material in the legs but it never really spreads out well and the legs ended up too stiff and lumpy. Material like terrycloth towels should never be considered for legs and I would avoid it due to weight in the toroso. Material like the fleece wipers seemed to yield a lumpy result and was still harder to push in around the pool noodles even with my tool. It seems like anything cotton is heavier and lumpier than a thin synthetic material. I could really get the slippery material to continue spiraling and wrapping around the noodles which I think is the key to reducing lumps.
I found a 3.5" pool noodle to be too thick for the legs and wish I had used the 3" ones I had in reserve. If I could do the legs again I would use the slippery material, 3" pool noodles to help with filling and also with final flexibility around the knees. In addition it might be worth considering polyfill at the knees since it helped so much with the other joints.
I’d like to personally thank you for taking me in until I quit in 2020, thank you Patrick for having taught me to defend myself as a boy. I will miss Effective Martial Arts for sure, but I know that if you will ever go back it will be great
Thanks for the updated filling method ! First time I'm glad to have procrastinated, will take the weekend to fill mime correctly !
Ripped my biceps tendon and you guys keep me doing what I love. Much gratitude!
Back to the drawing board. I’m going to refill mine this weekend.
Perfect! Refilled the Smarty and it looks and feels much better. Congrats on your success!
Thanks for the video. Your fill procedure is great, lots of good ideas. I filled mine with poly and clothes rags only a while ago so it's going to stay like this for me, but for your future customers, pre filled looks like a great option. I personally really like the dummy.
Thanks for the new video.
Mine has always felt a little difficult to move around the arms and legs (I stuffed it myself), so it looks like a lot more Poly is needed (I only have it in the hands and feet), and maybe I'll add the noodles as well.
Hmm... I might have to refill mine now.
I got mine prefilled and within less than a month the shoulders are so floppy he can’t stay in turtle anymore…
I hesitate to put extra stuffing in but… idk how else to fix it
I’ve refilled my 2.0 about 3 times now and have resigned myself to the fact that the joint areas will always become ‘floppy’ over time as the material separates. This is probably the only flaw in the dummy.
@@bensouthwest
Yeah this is super annoying. If I were rich enough I’d buy a Roll Bot no questions asked.
Too bad there’s no “low tech” roll bot style dummies out there that don’t need stuffing
Y’all need to invest in one of those build a bear machines to fill this
Thank you for this helpful video!
How many pounds of fleece wipers do you use per smarty?
Check out the table of materials below the video right here!
grapplingsmarty.com/pages/how-we-fill-the-grappling-smarty
that's pretty damn cool, thank. is it heavy enough though?
Do you provide refill services? Would like my 2.0 refilled with the new improved method.
My existing dummy is stuffed with a ton of old tshirts - could I use that to stuff an unfilled version without being too crazy?
I have refilled mine about two times but I always have the same issue. The area by the hip joints always become divided and so the legs start hanging down. It looses stiffeness in the hips after one training session..
It’s normal for all the joints to loosen up with training. That’s why we strive to achieve the optimal compression that will not be too stiff when new, but still offer good durability over time. Hope this helps!
@@EffectiveMartialArtssaid a whole lot of nothing lol
Are you serious. I’ve purchased the unfilled version of the extra large and there was no videos explaining about the poly fill in the shoulders and hips area. I was told to put it in the hands feet and head. I’ve put 60 pounds of shredded material but the shoulders and hips separate the material inside. which then makes the arms and legs lie limp in the joints for the shoulders and hips. There wasn’t any information about pool noodles. I now have to purchase more material and repack it for the third time this product is just a leather version of the canvas version ring to cage, grappling dummy definitely overpriced. Wish you would’ve came out with this information. About three months ago. It would’ve helped me out tremendously.😢
is it not bad work way your guys sitting on floor the whole day do this , why they do not work on large table like everywhere production / assembly line work ? thanks
I live in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Can you deliver an adult size pre-filled dummy to me?
@EffectiveMartialArts Is it good to use grain leather offcuts to stuff mannequins? Is that a good idea?
Are these available in the UK as well?
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Do you put fabric in the middle of the pool noodles? Or are they left hollow?
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accept the packing slip for mine Cleary said "Pakistan". I've had it for a few months, and i am finally starting to think i have overstuffed it. it won't sit up, and FORGET guard you can do nothing.
I called and left a message to do a trial basis bu they never called back . Do you hire females
Crazy to think you shut down your school and turned away all your students just so you can make these. You could have found a way to do it without closing the school.. maybe u lost your passion for teaching. Very greedy. I guess that’s what society is making of us all.. all that counts is the dollar