If I were FIA, I would try to entice Netflix to show WRC. Kinda like what Red Bull did, and maybe still does. 1 hour episodes that would show the highlights of the day, and then show the super special stages and the power stage live. That's what this series needs. New people excited of WRC and the people behind it. Like Colin! Go have a talk Colin to the head honchos!
Great to see you back at the kitchen table Colin! What a intense rally season it has been. Great hearing your insights. You are my favourite rally journalist by far! Keep up the great work!
I really agree with you Colin on Tänak. He somehow lost what made him so likable in the interviews and was sometimes really arrogant. I know it's been 3 difficult years for him for private reasons but he seems to become more relaxed. Thanks for your work!
The last time we've seen an out of the gate WRC debut like this was Loeb at 2001 Sanremo. Sesks did pretty much a perfect rally and showed that he is both very fast and reliable.
I like the fact that the championship leaders have to clean the road. Makes the championship more interesting in a non-forced way. Kalle and Ogier managed to deal with it, so can everyone else. Regarding Sesks, it is not his pace vs the top drivers that impressed me most (road advantage), butr the pace difference vs Munster. Similar road position, same car, so much faster during the friday.
Stop part time drivers being eligible from scoring manufacturer points. That'll kill the manufacturers putting them in and give the up and coming drivers places to go.
Great to have you back Colin when the WRC first started the running order was just like National rallies are seeded still today that was based on last year’s results so you won you were no 1 starter second number 2 starter and so on and at minute intervals on dusty events no complaints at starting first on the road . Now Mr Neuville is complaining about part time drivers starting behind the championship position order but who started this idea it was his own team that started this he was very happy when it was helping him ,when he is been interviewed why does out ,and finally the power stage should be a stand alone event with everyone on new tires and not the results of the event and be for bonus points only.
its been far too long Colin -- seems like a long time ago that you were cooking with Mr Adamo! Hope to see you do more of these....as a huge rally enthusiast since I was a kid in the early 90s hooked by a peak era of Irish and British rallying, I've gone from never missing an event to sadly finding myself lacking the will to even watch a WRC rally since the sad loss of Craig Breen (something I thought I'd never say)......That sounds daft to say given you knew the guy on a personal level....but you're infectious energy and enthusiasm for the sport is needed now more than ever in the absence of shining lights like Breen and Block!
Colin-with respect to road position, could the FIA not do a lottery drawing before the start of each rally to determine the starting road position? At least it becomes a random process and gives the top drivers a chance for a better road position. Having championship leaders penalized on gravel events is not an incentive for the top drivers to push for wins in the earlier rounds of the season. Fans also deserve better. As always great commentary by you on these events-keep up the great work!
Cyril for Ott is something like Cus for Mike back in the day. Andrea also did well with that psychology stuff. Tommy and Malcolm failed with loyalty, although played the biggest part in his career.
The problem for this year is that there are two part-timers that take advantage of the road position. But, true champions overcome such issues. Did Rovanperä or Ogier complain when they were leading the championship and had to do road sweeping. Absolutely. But did they still manage to do well and even win those events? Yes. For Neuville to complain that the road position is harming him is in truth him admitting that he might not be at the level that the champions of the past decade have been. He has had the better road position for years, now it's up to him to do that. This current system is still great in that it is almost like a golf handicap that forces that fastest driver to overcome a tougher road position. If we were to go for a shakedown quali, which I believe Colin you suggested during this rally at some point, we would go back to time where the top guy would have a lot better road position and drive into the distance with their tail lights barely visible. I don't think that's good for the sport. Now we have had Fourmaux finishing at the podium for multiple times and as much as I love Adrien (and I do love him, absolutely great character and has improved immensely!), those podiums have come partly because he has had a favorable road position on Friday which he then managed to defend. And those battles where a faster driver is charging against the slower underdog is exactly what we need! Not the time where the best driver would have the best road position and the rally would be over on Friday, barring technical issues. That's not exciting at all.
i think whoever is leading the rally at the end of each day should be first on the road the next day. might make it more interesting might make it worse but no harm in trying it.
At one time it was usually better to run first rally car on the road for dusty gravel or very wet world rally events. One of the keys is the time gap between the course car that runs last & first competition car and the amount of time the first rally car on the road can close to the course car on a stage. The first full day (usually the Friday) for world championship gravel rallies might be changed to allow reverse start order (based on points table) for the Rally1 cars (though inexperienced Rally1 drivers could start behind the regulars) as there are now more points able to be earned on the Sunday. I see it as there should be some benefits for leading the points table during the season. Other options could be a) Have 5 of the slower but experienced Rally 2 (non-wrc2 championship entrants) cars start in front of the Rally1 cars on Friday to reduce the amount of gravel even if the lines are not the same as the Rally1 cars b)or Have 2 loud Dakar V8 four drive vehicles with large tyres as sweepers behind the course cars on Friday.
Well if u want to be wrc champion , you need to drive fast from Friday to the end and not to rely too much on team orders.Kalle ,Ogi , Ott and other champions have mentioned yes cleaning is hard but they still have won championship/ championships
The WRC cannot allow Martins Sesks to slip though it's grasp. The promotor has to invest in Martins. F1 and WEC are seeing increased winners and interest. WRC is not, sadly it is 3rd in line and dyeing. 2 + 1/2 teams does not make a championship that sells. I love rallying I watched Richard Burns win in 2001, Henri in 1980, those levels of excitement seem long gone. Bottom line, the current rules "Do not work." Why is Martins not on the start list in Finland?
I think the WRC should add a new championship alongside the two current championships (the driver championship and the teams championship). With the third being a true manufacturer championship which only includes the car makers, a bit like in sportscar racing, they should make it so only the points nominated cars from each team will score points with the top 4 or 5 cars of a certain car make counting towards this new manufacturer championship so manufacturers will be strongly incouraged to sell to privateers to increase the amount of cars in the championship which would help young drivers like sesks get a drive in a rally1 car imo
The road position issues really shouldn't be that difficult to resolve in my mind. Here are a few ideas: Option 1: you bring back the shakedown qualifier and then watch Munster open the road every rally. Option 2: have drivers alternate on each stage just like at the Dakar (the most fair option imo and it would introduce some very cool strategy for each loop). Option 3: have drivers alternate on each loop rather than each day.
- Second WRC event from Suninen: was in second place until the last day and was winning stages. Great performance from Sesks though. - I hate this misconception: Manufacturers dont join for the damn regulations. They join for the marketing potential, the regulations just have to allow them to promote something they are selling. - The road position debate was completely blown out of proportions and just reduced to talking about road position and Neuville complaining again while everyone ignores the tiny fact that I think 2 Rallies were won by regular drivers, the rest was part timers, when has that ever happened? That Neuville talked about this gets ignored completely. (I dont have a problem with this btw, but its understandable that manufacturers do)
Colin,Colin listen. We now have2 now and again drivers both world champions running behind Nueville and Elfin in advantageous road positions gaining lots of time without the need to finish having a free reign. This is distorting the true positions of the other competitors. point of interest Elvin has won twice in Finland.
Adrien Fourmaux is the 1 in the championship who’ll be sought after,as an Msport fan I hope he stays but don’t think he’ll get the money at Msport Hyundai and Toyota can offer and he’s got to think about his life and future
I don't recall any of the legendary rally drivers of the last 50 Years complaining about road position. They understood that rallying is an off road sport. They could always go circuit racing! Perhaps it's a tyre issue. Do the tyres clear too much gravel and clean the roads too much? Put them all on road tyres?? Perhaps revert to a Seeding process.
Then you either missed or ignored a lot. Ott and Seb Ogier were or still are very good at complaining. Ott is usually complaining less about roads or rallies and more about his car that never works though usually. Its just a byproduct of how ambitious they are, and so is Neuville.
There is no good solution on the running order but the problem is bigger in this year because cars are more reliable, not so many craches and competion is very thens. Solution for the next year: qualifications for each rally or tarmac/gravel rallies need to be alternately. Overall whats scrwes up WRC is dominance. Like Citreon days, like VW days and now Toyota. How to solve that and not to offend the manufacturers i dont know.
Startimg order if fine, yes qualification would be entertaining. Points system is rubbish, finish your rally three times, friday, saturday and finnish sunday, get good points lol.
I did not watch video, just commenting headline: This just shows again, how few seats are available at RC1, as Sesks is not even fastest RC2 driver and imagine, what others can do with RC1 car, if only there would be more RC1 seats...
OK, now I went thru video. Tänak never recovered from his worst life decision, to leave Toyota. Last year M-Sport, he did not even try to take maximum out of car, as old Tänak did from any car, showing incredible times, no matter how bad car he was at any moment. But current situation, you could say, Hyundai is bad, not even close to Toyota at moment. With good car, Tänak was able to win stages, no matter of starting position. Lappi proved that also, he was nowhere, despite good starting position. Probably still this Neuville-Tänak different car development directions = you will never catch Toyota. As long you do not focus on one and instead of trying to do multiple directiosn simultaneously, Hyundai never become best car. But young promising drivers, all future top drivers has shown super speed in lower classes and winning there. All, Loeb, ROvanperä, Latvala, etc. they all were super fast and earned RC1 seat that way. Last decade or so, M-Sport money tactics, take some random youngsters into team, I never been fan of that, but it is partially understandable, when you have very tight budget.
I agree with the Ott/Neuville different directions development because last year Lappi, Neuville and even Sordo once talked about about setup preferences and how the current car was developed in a different direction in the past. And when they made new dampers with Lappi and had Neuville try his setup he was immediately good on fast rallies which were his Achilles heel for years. Neuville did have extra practice though, which he also didnt get this year thanks to Otts crash in Estonia.
Don't take this personally Colin, but Scottish stinginess is affecting your audio to the extent that you are losing half the emotion you are so liked for in your talking! Makes you sound boring! Go buy a proper mic and record your audio as professional as you do your video!
Not at all, appreciate the feedback. I use the same Rode mic kit that we use for the DF vids - maybe it’s to do with my kitchen. Lots of hard surfaces isn’t ideal. Any recommendations would be appreciated though 👍🙏😀
@@colinclarkrally4445 the problem with those cavalier mics is that they are picking up sound from your throat as it is located below your mouth. Use a Rhode ntg 5 mic. This is a shotgun mic that will be out of the field if view if the video frame and will be directed like the lens if your camera directly at your mouth. The kitchen acoustics are also bad, but a blanket behind the camera will stop the sound bouncing around.
Just one more thing to check - is your audio actualy being recorded from the Rhode Lavalier mic or are you using the camera's internal mic....... The camera mic will definately cause that echo efect and thinness of your voice.
For those who don't know, Tänak wife struggled with a serious illness for years. It seems that the situation is better now. It was not easy to focus on the rally like that
Finding out Colin has his own TH-cam channel is one hell of a way to wrap up a Wednesday night, love it!
Great to see you back at the kitchen table Colin!
Great to have you back Colin, your enthusiasm is infectious
Sesks needs to be in WRC he will be champ in no time, just give him the seat.
If I were FIA, I would try to entice Netflix to show WRC. Kinda like what Red Bull did, and maybe still does. 1 hour episodes that would show the highlights of the day, and then show the super special stages and the power stage live. That's what this series needs. New people excited of WRC and the people behind it. Like Colin!
Go have a talk Colin to the head honchos!
you and 51 others would watch it
@@BLITZKRIEG1 Drive to Survive was a fit. This could be as well. It needs to be done in an exciting way, and WRC *is* exciting.
Love this Colin, it'd be nice to see you uploading more consistently
Sesks could be the new champion, no questions! Just give this kid a seat and Rally1 car and he will beat everyone ❤
Great to see you back at the kitchen table Colin! What a intense rally season it has been. Great hearing your insights. You are my favourite rally journalist by far! Keep up the great work!
I really agree with you Colin on Tänak. He somehow lost what made him so likable in the interviews and was sometimes really arrogant. I know it's been 3 difficult years for him for private reasons but he seems to become more relaxed.
Thanks for your work!
The last time we've seen an out of the gate WRC debut like this was Loeb at 2001 Sanremo. Sesks did pretty much a perfect rally and showed that he is both very fast and reliable.
I like the fact that the championship leaders have to clean the road. Makes the championship more interesting in a non-forced way. Kalle and Ogier managed to deal with it, so can everyone else. Regarding Sesks, it is not his pace vs the top drivers that impressed me most (road advantage), butr the pace difference vs Munster. Similar road position, same car, so much faster during the friday.
Yesss TFTKT is back! Love this format, I was missing it :) hopefully this is here to stay!
Hi Colin, easy answer on the road order issue part time Drivers should run first on the road and not interfere with the championship.
Stop part time drivers being eligible from scoring manufacturer points. That'll kill the manufacturers putting them in and give the up and coming drivers places to go.
Enjoying these videos once again.
Great to see you back Colin, it is fantastic yours analises of WRC
Great to have you back Colin when the WRC first started the running order was just like National rallies are seeded still today that was based on last year’s results so you won you were no 1 starter second number 2 starter and so on and at minute intervals on dusty events no complaints at starting first on the road .
Now Mr Neuville is complaining about part time drivers starting behind the championship position order but who started this idea it was his own team that started this he was very happy when it was helping him ,when he is been interviewed why does out ,and finally the power stage should be a stand alone event with everyone on new tires and not the results of the event and be for bonus points only.
Love your enthusiasm Colin!
Where u been colin lol Great to see the kitchen table back really hope you find time for more sir 👍
Missed this thanks Colin keep up the good work
WE ARE SO BACK!!
Welcome back Colin, wrong about Martins, next year!
i need this voice every morning --- subscribed and bell rung!
Always love to see your Kitchen Table!
its been far too long Colin -- seems like a long time ago that you were cooking with Mr Adamo! Hope to see you do more of these....as a huge rally enthusiast since I was a kid in the early 90s hooked by a peak era of Irish and British rallying, I've gone from never missing an event to sadly finding myself lacking the will to even watch a WRC rally since the sad loss of Craig Breen (something I thought I'd never say)......That sounds daft to say given you knew the guy on a personal level....but you're infectious energy and enthusiasm for the sport is needed now more than ever in the absence of shining lights like Breen and Block!
OMG Col, you have a private channel with more WRC?!!!! Yes please 😅
Finally back in the kitchen! Love it!
Colin-with respect to road position, could the FIA not do a lottery drawing before the start of each rally to determine the starting road position? At least it becomes a random process and gives the top drivers a chance for a better road position. Having championship leaders penalized on gravel events is not an incentive for the top drivers to push for wins in the earlier rounds of the season. Fans also deserve better. As always great commentary by you on these events-keep up the great work!
Awesome insight as always 👏
Great to see the kitchen table back Colin
Nice kitchen BTW ;)
Cyril for Ott is something like Cus for Mike back in the day. Andrea also did well with that psychology stuff. Tommy and Malcolm failed with loyalty, although played the biggest part in his career.
Thank you!
The problem for this year is that there are two part-timers that take advantage of the road position. But, true champions overcome such issues. Did Rovanperä or Ogier complain when they were leading the championship and had to do road sweeping. Absolutely. But did they still manage to do well and even win those events? Yes. For Neuville to complain that the road position is harming him is in truth him admitting that he might not be at the level that the champions of the past decade have been. He has had the better road position for years, now it's up to him to do that.
This current system is still great in that it is almost like a golf handicap that forces that fastest driver to overcome a tougher road position. If we were to go for a shakedown quali, which I believe Colin you suggested during this rally at some point, we would go back to time where the top guy would have a lot better road position and drive into the distance with their tail lights barely visible. I don't think that's good for the sport.
Now we have had Fourmaux finishing at the podium for multiple times and as much as I love Adrien (and I do love him, absolutely great character and has improved immensely!), those podiums have come partly because he has had a favorable road position on Friday which he then managed to defend. And those battles where a faster driver is charging against the slower underdog is exactly what we need! Not the time where the best driver would have the best road position and the rally would be over on Friday, barring technical issues. That's not exciting at all.
Yay! A kitchen table Its been too long Colin 😄
Love this ❤️
thanks dirtfish 🎉
Thanks for sharing 👽👽👽👽👽👽
i think whoever is leading the rally at the end of each day should be first on the road the next day. might make it more interesting might make it worse but no harm in trying it.
Good one!
At one time it was usually better to run first rally car on the road for dusty gravel or very wet world rally events. One of the keys is the time gap between the course car that runs last & first competition car and the amount of time the first rally car on the road can close to the course car on a stage. The first full day (usually the Friday) for world championship gravel rallies might be changed to allow reverse start order (based on points table) for the Rally1 cars (though inexperienced Rally1 drivers could start behind the regulars) as there are now more points able to be earned on the Sunday. I see it as there should be some benefits for leading the points table during the season. Other options could be a) Have 5 of the slower but experienced Rally 2 (non-wrc2 championship entrants) cars start in front of the Rally1 cars on Friday to reduce the amount of gravel even if the lines are not the same as the Rally1 cars b)or Have 2 loud Dakar V8 four drive vehicles with large tyres as sweepers behind the course cars on Friday.
Well if u want to be wrc champion , you need to drive fast from Friday to the end and not to rely too much on team orders.Kalle ,Ogi , Ott and other champions have mentioned yes cleaning is hard but they still have won championship/ championships
Those are some snazzy glasses Colin! The kids I believe would say that you have rizz. You might need to ask Hollie about that one.
You are right 🤞
Nice glasses. !!!😮😅😊😢
The WRC cannot allow Martins Sesks to slip though it's grasp. The promotor has to invest in Martins. F1 and WEC are seeing increased winners and interest. WRC is not, sadly it is 3rd in line and dyeing. 2 + 1/2 teams does not make a championship that sells.
I love rallying I watched Richard Burns win in 2001, Henri in 1980, those levels of excitement seem long gone.
Bottom line, the current rules "Do not work."
Why is Martins not on the start list in Finland?
Ott is keeping cool, I'm chearing for him.
Tänak is definitely not likeable, I really admire your patience and professionalism to be able to willingly to do an interview with such character.
I think the WRC should add a new championship alongside the two current championships (the driver championship and the teams championship). With the third being a true manufacturer championship which only includes the car makers, a bit like in sportscar racing, they should make it so only the points nominated cars from each team will score points with the top 4 or 5 cars of a certain car make counting towards this new manufacturer championship so manufacturers will be strongly incouraged to sell to privateers to increase the amount of cars in the championship which would help young drivers like sesks get a drive in a rally1 car imo
Colin - you need to remove that clock from behind you on the wall.. it looks like a gigantic ear ring!
The road position issues really shouldn't be that difficult to resolve in my mind. Here are a few ideas:
Option 1: you bring back the shakedown qualifier and then watch Munster open the road every rally.
Option 2: have drivers alternate on each stage just like at the Dakar (the most fair option imo and it would introduce some very cool strategy for each loop).
Option 3: have drivers alternate on each loop rather than each day.
- Second WRC event from Suninen: was in second place until the last day and was winning stages. Great performance from Sesks though.
- I hate this misconception: Manufacturers dont join for the damn regulations. They join for the marketing potential, the regulations just have to allow them to promote something they are selling.
- The road position debate was completely blown out of proportions and just reduced to talking about road position and Neuville complaining again while everyone ignores the tiny fact that I think 2 Rallies were won by regular drivers, the rest was part timers, when has that ever happened? That Neuville talked about this gets ignored completely. (I dont have a problem with this btw, but its understandable that manufacturers do)
One suggestion if you are the championship leader then start in the middle of the pack. Not first, not last, right in the middle 😃😃
Any chance we can get a donkey video?
Colin,Colin listen. We now have2 now and again drivers both world champions running behind Nueville and Elfin in advantageous road positions gaining lots of time without the need to finish having a free reign. This is distorting the true positions of the other competitors. point of interest Elvin has won twice in Finland.
There is no doubt at one point on Saturday afternoon, Martin Sesks even rattled Sebastien Ogier, who happens to have nerves of steel...
We should talk about those glasses, my god..
i know right, aren't they beautiful?
love that he has a variety of colors!
Adrien Fourmaux is the 1 in the championship who’ll be sought after,as an Msport fan I hope he stays but don’t think he’ll get the money at Msport Hyundai and Toyota can offer and he’s got to think about his life and future
Paldies
I don't recall any of the legendary rally drivers of the last 50 Years complaining about road position. They understood that rallying is an off road sport. They could always go circuit racing! Perhaps it's a tyre issue. Do the tyres clear too much gravel and clean the roads too much? Put them all on road tyres?? Perhaps revert to a Seeding process.
Then you either missed or ignored a lot. Ott and Seb Ogier were or still are very good at complaining. Ott is usually complaining less about roads or rallies and more about his car that never works though usually. Its just a byproduct of how ambitious they are, and so is Neuville.
@@bett431 Also, iirc in Loeb's time the championship leader could choose the road position, 9 years of no reason to complain :)
@@bett431 they're French. They always complain.
There is no good solution on the running order but the problem is bigger in this year because cars are more reliable, not so many craches and competion is very thens.
Solution for the next year: qualifications for each rally or tarmac/gravel rallies need to be alternately.
Overall whats scrwes up WRC is dominance. Like Citreon days, like VW days and now Toyota.
How to solve that and not to offend the manufacturers i dont know.
Startimg order if fine, yes qualification would be entertaining.
Points system is rubbish, finish your rally three times, friday, saturday and finnish sunday, get good points lol.
Subaru x Sesks 2027
One for debate for Sesks would surely be an ideal near-term replacement for Münster, whom I feel is not as talented
I did not watch video, just commenting headline: This just shows again, how few seats are available at RC1, as Sesks is not even fastest RC2 driver and imagine, what others can do with RC1 car, if only there would be more RC1 seats...
It’s been WAY too long!!!!!
OK, now I went thru video.
Tänak never recovered from his worst life decision, to leave Toyota. Last year M-Sport, he did not even try to take maximum out of car, as old Tänak did from any car, showing incredible times, no matter how bad car he was at any moment.
But current situation, you could say, Hyundai is bad, not even close to Toyota at moment. With good car, Tänak was able to win stages, no matter of starting position. Lappi proved that also, he was nowhere, despite good starting position. Probably still this Neuville-Tänak different car development directions = you will never catch Toyota. As long you do not focus on one and instead of trying to do multiple directiosn simultaneously, Hyundai never become best car.
But young promising drivers, all future top drivers has shown super speed in lower classes and winning there. All, Loeb, ROvanperä, Latvala, etc. they all were super fast and earned RC1 seat that way. Last decade or so, M-Sport money tactics, take some random youngsters into team, I never been fan of that, but it is partially understandable, when you have very tight budget.
I agree with the Ott/Neuville different directions development because last year Lappi, Neuville and even Sordo once talked about about setup preferences and how the current car was developed in a different direction in the past. And when they made new dampers with Lappi and had Neuville try his setup he was immediately good on fast rallies which were his Achilles heel for years. Neuville did have extra practice though, which he also didnt get this year thanks to Otts crash in Estonia.
Don't take this personally Colin, but Scottish stinginess is affecting your audio to the extent that you are losing half the emotion you are so liked for in your talking! Makes you sound boring!
Go buy a proper mic and record your audio as professional as you do your video!
Not at all, appreciate the feedback.
I use the same Rode mic kit that we use for the DF vids - maybe it’s to do with my kitchen. Lots of hard surfaces isn’t ideal.
Any recommendations would be appreciated though 👍🙏😀
@@colinclarkrally4445 the problem with those cavalier mics is that they are picking up sound from your throat as it is located below your mouth.
Use a Rhode ntg 5 mic. This is a shotgun mic that will be out of the field if view if the video frame and will be directed like the lens if your camera directly at your mouth. The kitchen acoustics are also bad, but a blanket behind the camera will stop the sound bouncing around.
Just one more thing to check - is your audio actualy being recorded from the Rhode Lavalier mic or are you using the camera's internal mic....... The camera mic will definately cause that echo efect and thinness of your voice.
For those who don't know, Tänak wife struggled with a serious illness for years. It seems that the situation is better now. It was not easy to focus on the rally like that