Here are the three different types of holding pattern entries, the direct, parallel, and teardrop methods. Check out all our courses at www.flight-insight.com/courses
You sholud turn 30 degrees towards the holding side(protected side). so In this case you should turn 30 degrees more, and it's HDG084. As a result, in right pattern it's 30 less, and in left turn, 30 more.
In the case of CRE non-standard hold on the 054° radial: Parallel: Course 304°-054° (110° inside the holding pattern direction, preferred if flying straight-on the radial) Teardrop: Course 054°-124° (70° outside the holding pattern direction) Direct: Course 125°-303°
My complaint with this, and most, presentations is that we show the hold as a fixed picture and rotate the inbound airplane around it. But when I look at my compass picture inbound to a VOR, I am always coming from the bottom of my compass towards the top of my compass. So find the holding radial on your compass. Finger from that point on the outer edge of your compass inbound to the center of your compass. Then finger a left or right turn to an outbound leg parallel to the inbound leg to the outer edge of your compass. Now you SEE where the hold is relative to your airplane and your direction of flight.
The people who understand what you are talking about dont need this and the people who are learning dont know what you are saying. Break down a few acronyms here and there please.
@@Jimmer-tr6biyou will die of old age and a happy fulfilled life before you can show a document involving any teardrop or a right turn into a left hand entry. Please remember that if u ask 10 people how far out is safe to make a turn against traffic you will get 10 different answers. Im just a flight simmer so don't take my word for it, ask 10 of your pilot friends.
@@Jimmer-tr6bi the heading is around 145 and still within 10 degrees of the direct entry quadrant. For right hand turns it would have been a parallel entry
I wouldn't waste time nitpicking between teardrop and direct. That's glue you get behind the aircraft. If it's within +/- 5 degrees, just go with the easier one. Don't forget about the wind correction angle will also determine the entry.
Hello, one questions: in the deardrop and parallel entries, do you overfly the station and then turn to 024º/054º or you intercept the R-024/R-054 of the VOR?
@@kylephilippides but you would already be in the pattern its like a direct entry, or are you only considered being in the pattern once you pass the fix?
Because every pattern entry requires that you cross the station first, so that you can use standard rate turns as the basis for creating the size of the pattern. Put differently, only the inbound course gives you guidance and protection from the unprotected area. The outbound course can be flown an infinite number of different distances from the protected line/radial, since it’s just a heading. However, there is only one distance (based on your speed) that you can fly the outbound course, make a standard turn and end up back on the inbound course; and that distance, when using a VOR, can only be determined by first flying over the station and then executing a standard rate turn outbound.
@@CH-lc3yf Honestly, I really wouldn’t expect him to know that as a flight simmer, as holding patterns are a solution to real world problems that don’t necessarily exist in flight simulations. 😅
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As a ppl student thanks for scaring me
As an instrument student, thank you.
Aye Grand Strand, that's Myrtle Beach SC. I received my PPL there in 1978.
Isn’t the teardrop supposed to be heading 024 degrees? Should be 30 degrees less than outbound heading, not 30 degrees more? Correct me if I’m wrong!
You sholud turn 30 degrees towards the holding side(protected side). so In this case you should turn 30 degrees more, and it's HDG084. As a result, in right pattern it's 30 less, and in left turn, 30 more.
In the case of CRE non-standard hold on the 054° radial:
Parallel: Course 304°-054° (110° inside the holding pattern direction, preferred if flying straight-on the radial)
Teardrop: Course 054°-124° (70° outside the holding pattern direction)
Direct: Course 125°-303°
As the Grand Strand VOR, thank you.
My complaint with this, and most, presentations is that we show the hold as a fixed picture and rotate the inbound airplane around it. But when I look at my compass picture inbound to a VOR, I am always coming from the bottom of my compass towards the top of my compass. So find the holding radial on your compass. Finger from that point on the outer edge of your compass inbound to the center of your compass. Then finger a left or right turn to an outbound leg parallel to the inbound leg to the outer edge of your compass. Now you SEE where the hold is relative to your airplane and your direction of flight.
Watch his hold entries video. The short is too short
It just clicked for me. Thank you! This was one of my weak points.
The people who understand what you are talking about dont need this and the people who are learning dont know what you are saying. Break down a few acronyms here and there please.
"Within" "Protected Area?" I'll lookup how this is defined but IDT it is.
Teardrop is not correct
Teardrops, correct, parallel is not
@@Jimmer-tr6bi it's not. Learn that again before your checkride
@@Jimmer-tr6biyou will die of old age and a happy fulfilled life before you can show a document involving any teardrop or a right turn into a left hand entry. Please remember that if u ask 10 people how far out is safe to make a turn against traffic you will get 10 different answers. Im just a flight simmer so don't take my word for it, ask 10 of your pilot friends.
@@Jimmer-tr6bi the heading is around 145 and still within 10 degrees of the direct entry quadrant. For right hand turns it would have been a parallel entry
I wouldn't waste time nitpicking between teardrop and direct. That's glue you get behind the aircraft. If it's within +/- 5 degrees, just go with the easier one. Don't forget about the wind correction angle will also determine the entry.
Hello, one questions: in the deardrop and parallel entries, do you overfly the station and then turn to 024º/054º or you intercept the R-024/R-054 of the VOR?
Fly the heading. At the same time, set your OBS to the inbound course.
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i never understood the parallel, why dont you just start on the outbound course since its the closest and you are in the pattern sooner?
because that’s a teardrop but you adding extra steps
@@kylephilippides but you would already be in the pattern its like a direct entry, or are you only considered being in the pattern once you pass the fix?
Because every pattern entry requires that you cross the station first, so that you can use standard rate turns as the basis for creating the size of the pattern. Put differently, only the inbound course gives you guidance and protection from the unprotected area. The outbound course can be flown an infinite number of different distances from the protected line/radial, since it’s just a heading. However, there is only one distance (based on your speed)
that you can fly the outbound course, make a standard turn and end up back on the inbound course; and that distance, when using a VOR, can only be determined by first flying over the station and then executing a standard rate turn outbound.
teardrop should just be a direct.
Just a shoty flight simmer here. Tear drop right turn into left hand traffic has got to stop being taught. Its not ok, its not identified anywhere.
That's a different teardrop. The video is about IFR holding patterns.
@@CH-lc3yf Honestly, I really wouldn’t expect him to know that as a flight simmer, as holding patterns are a solution to real world problems that don’t necessarily exist in flight simulations. 😅
It's not this easy
that displayed teardrop doesn't really make sense. If I'm allowed to make an entry, in your example i would've just made a direct entry..