MoFi Triple 8's: Andrew Jones' Newest Masterclass in Audiophile Bliss!
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Time Stamps:
00:00 - Introduction
05:31 - System Synergy
06:49 - Listening Impressions
06:52 - Treble Impressions
11:50 - Off Road
13:37 - Midrange Impressions
16:56 - Bass Impressions
19:42 - Soundstage Impressions
21:05 - Sound Clip Comparisons
25:42 - Speaker Measurements
30:21 - Final Thoughts
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Hi everyone! Remember when I hinted at something exciting? Well, here it is!
Welcome back to New Record Day! Today, we're diving deep into the MoFi Source Point 888 speakers. These beauties stand 42 inches tall, 13 inches wide, and 17 inches deep, and they promise to deliver the deep, powerful bass that audiophiles crave.
**Specifications**:
- **Height**: 42 inches
- **Width**: 13 inches
- **Depth**: 17 inches
- **Weight**: 96 pounds
- **Sensitivity**: 87 dB
- **Impedance**: 6 ohms
- **Finish Options**: Black, White, Walnut Veneer
**Design**:
- Top driver: 8-inch paper cone woofer with a 1.25-inch soft dome tweeter
- Two additional 8-inch paper cone woofers crossing at 130 Hz
- Concentric design for uniform sound dispersion
**Performance**:
- Smooth, detailed treble without the need for burn-in
- Exceptional midrange clarity, making vocals sound incredibly realistic
- Deep, thunderous bass that reaches down into the 20s in some musical content
- Improved soundstage and imaging compared to the Source Point 10s
**System Synergy**:
- Pairs well with powerful amplifiers
- My favorite setup: Zenith - May DAC - Holo Serene preamp - TYR amps
🎧 **Listening Impressions**:
- "Stand by Me" by Dominique Fils Aime showcased the smooth treble and detailed midrange
- AC/DC’s "Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution" highlighted the speaker’s dynamic range and bass response
📊 **Measurements**:
- On-axis response shows a slight downward tilt, contributing to the smooth sound
- Clean spectral decay, indicating quick settling times
- Excellent horizontal and vertical response, ensuring great performance in various room setups
🔍 **Final Thoughts**:
The MoFi Source Point 888 speakers are a triumph in speaker design, offering a seamless blend of deep bass, detailed mids, and smooth treble. Whether you're cranking up rock anthems or enjoying a delicate acoustic track, these speakers deliver in spades. Highly recommended for any serious audiophile!
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The MoFi Source Point 888 speakers are a triumph in speaker design, offering a seamless blend of deep bass, detailed mids, and smooth treble. Whether you're cranking up rock anthems or enjoying a delicate acoustic track, these speakers deliver in spades. Highly recommended for any serious audiophile!
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These speakers are absolute junk. Send them to me instead of back to the manufacturer and I'll take care of the rest. LOL
Great review, Ron!
I appreciate that and completely agree! I’ll make you a deal: I’ll send these pieces of junk to you, and you can send me those speakers you just reviewed in exchange.
Thanks for watching, Erin. Stop telling people to put speakers 2 feet away from the walls! 😂🤣😅
@@Newrecordday2013 lol!!!
from now on I'm gonna say you recommend putting them right next to the wall.
@@Newrecordday2013 honestly I really liked seeing the in room measurements in the 1’ increments. Really puts some data to what we hear.
don’t forget to check out erin’s fine review of these 888s 🎉
@@Newrecordday2013at least he knows better than to be putting them near room modes 8 feet out like some weirdos do 😂
Most people dont realize that the bass/lower frequencies can change the way we hear the higher frequencies.
And the reverse also holds.
@@fonkenful AGREE!!!!!
transmission boxes are doin that job really good
@@markovlasic1978 transmission boxes have nothing to do with ichigobankai2343 comment.
and the other way around applies as well. and lower mids can affect bass. all kinds of things affect things, in mix engineering it’s called masking
Thanks! Fantastic review Ron. I've been waiting for the reviews to begin dropping on these in hopes that they lived up to the show hype they received. Looks like Andrew hit not only a home run, but a grand slam with these. So glad to hear about that smooth top end. I think I've found the upgrade from my current Q Acoustic Concept 50's! Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
Depending on the room size, i'd pick the concept 500.
Thanks for the very informative review.
Welcome!
Great Work Ron!
Many thanks!
So glad I subscribed.
Heck yeah!
Nice review, thanks 🙏
Ron this review reinforces your Goat 🐐 reviewer status ‼️
Great content like always
Appreciate it!
Fantastic review, Ron. You and Erin are hands down the best in the business.
Ah thanks! Erin is fantastic!
Excellent review. Very thorough.
Thank you kindly!
I had listened to them with Andrew! I hadn't known he would be giving a demo in person that day.
MOE FI !!! ... I like the style on these =)
Haven't even started the review and just wanted to comment on how much I turned up that opening unboxing jam!! That was fun!! :)
As always, creative presentation AND informative
Thanks again!
i was thinking about that 130hz crossover point, there is some benefits with crossing over higher. those 70hz extra up to 200hz would have added some impact to the sound higher up. and made the crossover parts smaller, there are some huge coils involved the lower you go in hz, either lower the cost or used higher quality parts if you did so.
assuming no other drawbacks.....
and the midrange would have even less bass to play.
that is my experience playing around with crossover from larger woofers to midbass drivers, 80hz to 300hz i have play around with. there is some magic happening when you let the larger drivers or larger cone area play higher up, assuming the cabinet and damping inside is up to the task.
I agree. And Albert Von Schweikert does too. My VR-4 Generation II cross up to mid at 185 Hz. Also has lower at 65 Hz and double transmission line.
The three 8” drivers are fairly far apart, and the directivity narrows as frequency goes up. You will get beaming and phasing starting to happen as you raise the frequency, and I’ll bet that Jones labored greatly at settling on 130Hz. The reviewer stated that driver integration was superb, so I’m thinking Jones chose correctly.
@@TheMirolab within hundreds of hz you are fine with meters of spacing, lets say 200hz you can place woofers a meter apart. and my point was the benefit from increasing the crossover point, not the possible drawbacks.
I liked the 10's better, they are closer to the real thing in the mids !
The speakers that gets you the closest to the real thing to my ears are the Steinway Lyngdorf Speaker Systems. I really liked the Model A,B and D speaker systems the best ! Not cheap but they just might be the closest to the real thing out there...😇😍
I’m more than happy with my Mofi SP 10 these also look great though!! Great review!!
Glad you like them!
I think I would like the 10s better myself. Of course I would be adding a pair of subs. lol.
I absolutely loved the comparisons. The 888's sounded amazingly beautiful 💜
Hey, thank you so much. I do appreciate it.
Man they look great. Reviews are very very good Ron
Thanks 👍
On my system, these speakers sound closer than anything previous to them in matching my home setup. The in room response helped with the bass on the last couple of sound clips. The holographic sound stage is an important part of the presentation that I could hear a tiny bit of in the in room response, especially in the vocal reverb.
Sweet sounding speakers.
THANKS RON !!!!!! STELLAR Review !!!!! And i Value your reviews over ANYONE... Looks like I'm Selling My Beloved Klipsch's for THESE .. ASAP...I have Been DYING for a review on These ever since Andrew Debuted them !!!
Great review tks .
These look like a buy👍 when theres some 💰💰💰
Glad you reviewed these Ron (of course you would, there awesome!). If these things do not offend your highly trained ears then there is no way they aren't good enough for me!
Nice video Ron
Now we need the triple 10.
Very good review 👍
Glad you liked it
Boy! These Jade Audio JT-1 headphones crank out the bass! And very well balanced and detailed.
Very good review, Ron.
Thank you kindly
Excellent in-depth review Ron! Andrew Jones is certainly running white hot in his designs.....
To hell with the speaker! That intro music is dope AF!!!
Great review, Ron. Based on the sound samples it seems that the 888s would sound their best with a few more dB of volume compared with the SP10s. As always, YMMV. Cheers!
Thinking on purchasing the 10s in the near future…good video without cutting anyone’s throat 😜👍🏻
Ron, you have done it again, another great insightful review. The triple 888's are from a designer who has hit his stride and works with a company that provides a reasonable budget.
No problem with the $5,000 price, just wish I had the room 😢
Thank you!
Ah man Erin beat you to it by a few hours… so I am not watching this… lol. Just kidding, checking it out now.
I couldn’t let him have all the fun!
@@Newrecordday2013I can’t be the only subscriber with my headphones at the ready, awaiting the inevitable sound clips; regardless of what some YT experts proclaim, I find they can be a useful tool in showcasing the highlights of differences between speakers, and to paraphrase one of that cohort “the only person to whom you need to justify your subjective opinion is you.
@@fonkenfulif your room and equipment is the same
@@Harrisongrey19I’ll disagree with you there in part; insofar as when listening to numerous of Ron’s sound clips over the past year or so, I can definitely hear differences - some subtle, others not so much. I’m well aware they can’t tell me what any of this gear would sound like in my own rooms. Even with over 50 years in this hobby listening to a high end system in an audio shop’s frankly pretty lousy front room - which I did just yesterday - can’t adequately demonstrate what that gear would do in my space.
As much as I don’t enjoy the overall headphone experience, it certainly has its merits with well recorded and produced audio.
I agree with the review. A slightly leaner, maybe more detailed lower midrange. Great bass response.
But looking at the price and then looking at my smallish room, I think a pair of SP 8's and subwoofer would be close enough and save quite a few bucks.
Really impressed with how close these speakers come to the reference recording though. Well done Andrew.
Well said!
Why only compare to Mofi? Why might someone opt for these over some of your other favorites or the other way around?
@@glenschneider5978 I assume you are asking Ron, but I think I understand why. The sound signature is essentially the same as the other models. I believe he has already compared a pair of the Source Points to other speakers in another review.. Doing it here would not not be much different and esentially repetitive.
The real question in this review, is why would you choose the Triple 8's, over the other Source Point models? And is the the extra cost worth it. I think that is what Ron was trying to answer with this review.
One cool feature about this one is that it crosses over at 130 Hz to the base drivers. This means that you can implement Dirac live or other room correction (Lyngdorf, mini dsp, etc) as if these are subwoofers by adding two monoblocks directly to the woofers. Hello ganfet by Orchard. Then part of the crossover can be disabled. So you can feed only the coax drivers by a much smaller amp. Hello 300B SET. For the coax drivers the Crossover can be replaced by the one that gr research did for the source.point 8. Although, the 888 crossover is already way better than the one for the sourcepoint 8.
From some of the show reports, the 888 already performed superbly well. But I believe with the changes above, that it would be very hard to beat. ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Hi Ron, thank you for your astutely informative review. After watching this review, the following question arises to me as a regular viewer and subscriber, and occurs to me seeming as the “elephant in Ron’s video” 😉……what speaker, if having to choose among them, do you prefer for your listening?……the 888’s, the Caladans, or the Bullys? Music dependent? Mood dependent? Or hands down unqualified favorite? Thank you for considering!
Time Stamps:
00:00 - Introduction
05:31 - System Synergy
06:49 - Listening Impressions
06:52 - Treble Impressions
11:50 - Off Road
13:37 - Midrange Impressions
16:56 - Bass Impressions
19:42 - Soundstage Impressions
21:05 - Sound Clip Comparisons
25:42 - Speaker Measurements
30:21 - Final Thoughts
I guess you forgot to timestamp this one. No worries. I gotchu, NRD
Hawk Tuah reference 19:41
Another entertaining review! Thank you!
I wonder if my 18' x 12' room can handle these.
Just because I'm looking at buying my fourth set of AJ speakers does not mean I'm an AJ fanboy!
Just had to comment, I always come back bc you break down things like the 130 crossover. I enjoy taking this information and adding it to my audiophile journey. (Also me, how can I get an audio barn ;) ) p.s. are we sure no hawk tuah is required 😂
Man I sure do appreciate that!
@@Newrecordday2013 I love a good side quest, never stop taking the side quest for us :) happy 4th.
Well done good sir well done!
Thank you!
My unifi 2.0 speakers are sobbing. Thanks a lot Ron! 😂
I really wish this had a transmission line set up along with the coaxial driver..
I would be all in
Ok, now it's time to please compare these to the Caladan.
I preferred the sound of the 10 from the sound samples. In person that may change.
The 10's are fantastic! Im a big fan of those speakers.
I as well. To me they sounded closer to the reference tracks.
Me too 10s for me.
I can hear what Ron is talking about, the extra crispness in the vocals and the extra bass in the vocals too. It seems the 888's are more natural, closer to the recording but the 10's may be more exciting for some.
@@yl1974 Agree!
Thank you for the review! Will ask what should sound better, these speakers or the Sourcepoint 8 with 2 sealed subwoofers?
In my opinion, no question ... Triple 8's hands down.
Well, the 8's are going to be playing bass through it's only woofer, coloring the mids a bit and reducing the soundstage unless you cross them over really high. But then you end up with localizable bass from the subs so they must be positioned symmetrically near the 8's. And you have to really know your stuff in terms of integrating the subs in order to get them sounding good. I think it would be easier to end up with a great result with the 888's but your approach could work well if done right.
@@bearclaw5115 thanks for the response. If you were integrating just one sub with the 8’a what crossover setting would you start with
@@bearclaw5115localized bass below 150hz? Probably not.
Take it off baby! Look at the woofers on that!
Ron, you are great! You do have a vocabulary that would envy the AI author like hot knife in butter. Team up with SNL and write their monologue and we all are in heaven. Now, the cliffhanger, Caladan, Bully or the LGKs? Hmmmm
Haha! Thanks! Yeah, now that showdown would be intense!
I feel like I can hear the cabinet of the woodwind instruments better with the 888. Where the vocals sound more forward on the 10 but more balanced on the 888
I am big fan of Andrew jones concentric speakers but Very disappointed with source point 10 . They were super-hot on top, played by little hifi rose amp, I couldn’t stand more than minute. Walked out from room. Seems all those things addressed with 888. Great review. Ron explained very well issue with source point 10 and what to expect from 888. Sound clips of 888 sounds clean.
Except putting hipass filters in the mix,
The 10 is only hot by 2db up top. Yes, I would pass on them too. Fortunately the SP8's are voiced neutrally up top, have you tried them?
Listening samples you can definitely hear the difference in soundstage width and the bass is so much richer on the triple 8s.
This is why legendary speakers like the Kef 104/2 do exactly what the triples do…crossover at 150hz to their twin internal 8 inch paper bass drivers. It creates a magic midrange and pure music!!
Tannoy Tannoy Tannoy ..... Do a shot everytime this dude says "Texure" ...
Excellent review. I tend to lean more to bookshelves + subs over floorstanders. Mainly for better bass control and positioning. Therefore I would be more inclined to consider the SP 8 or 10 over the 888s. Thanks for the great review!
From personal experience, despite the reviews and rational reasoning, I have always found Towers to always sound better than bookshelves with a sub(subs).
Can't explain it, but everytime I've done an A/B comparison, the floorstanders with a sub(s) simply sound better.
@@ufarkingiceholethe floorstanders move more air, sound bigger, better dynamics
@@ufarkingicehole I agree. It's hard to integrate a sub so seamlessly that it outplays a tower.
Great review, I am seriously considering buying these bad boys! Before I do, are there any other speakers at or around the 5K price point that should also be considered, or are the triple 8s the aces?
I haven't heard any of these but these are the other speakers in contention with them;
SVS Ultra Evolution Pinnacles
Arendal 1723
KEF R11 Meta
Ascend Acoustics ELX Towers
The Mofi's are probably the safest choice, most perfect response but you may enjoy a different flavor.
Would have loved to hear them vs the Caladans.
The 10’s seem to more closely resemble the original reference tracks. The low end sounds fantastic in the clips of the 888’s, but is artificially accentuated IMO. I could easily hear the difference shown in the graphs.
@@JoeDogInKC how do you come to that conclusion? You've heard them side by side?
@@ufarkingicehole I came to that conclusion by listening to the audio in the video on headphones with the descriptions showing what was playing. Now, it is possible that NRD had different EQ settings set for the 888’s that he had dialed in and forgotten about, but I did make an assumption that with the intent being that we were supposed to listen to the differences, he would have left the same EQ settings to compare them all.
@JoeDogInKC No EQ is used. You are hearing the speakers recorded with nothing altered or changed other than volume matching. Thanks!
@@Newrecordday2013 Awesome, thank you for confirming my assumption there. The 888’s do certainly sound great and likely more pleasing to most people, even if not quite as accurate.
On my setup, Sourcepoint 10 sounds closer to Reference recording than 888, especially in the vocals. I would add 2 fast subs to Sourcepoint 10's and DSP out the tiny bit of roughness in upper midrange.
lol chck your ears... the 10s add a shimmer I found annoying and not needed on songs... as most songs have enough shimmer already
I have the 10’s and I added a Martin Logan dynamo 1100 sub, and E.Q the treble on some tracks -2 db and it’s absolutely amazing
This or The Bully? Real Q 😁
On my cheap system the 10's were very close to source. 888's had much more, deeper bass. I would pick the 888's because I don't use subs. Tried them, don't like what subs do to music overall. You can always turn down bass and hear more midrange, but you can NOT get more bass from a speaker that is not capable of deeper bass (my past B&W's come to mind). Just my thoughts listening with Elac Debut Reference's. Great review. Andrew Jones did it again!
subs do the music very well, the thing is... you KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY INTEGRATE the dual subwoofers in the chain?, the answer very often is NO.
This my friend is in the same price point as the JBL L82mk2 classics where I reside. According to your opinion which I value - which is the better value and better speaker in Your opinion of course? ( I understand one is concentric and the jbl not) but assuming I stay in couch lock, which sound better to you? Thank you. P.S I watch a ton of your reviews - just so much good info that I loose track, but seriously these two I am considering hence requesting your opinion. 🙏👍
Apples and oranges. Isn’t JBL a horn speaker? That will be a matter of taste
5k for a pair of speakers is getting super tough to choose!! These caladan, something for GR Research. I really want to know which one would be best?
There is no empirical “best”, just what is best for you, and that depends on a whole host of variables such as the size of your listening room, configuration, what kind of music you like, what kind of bass you like, whether the speakers will double for home theater, etc…
Just wait till you hear the new SVS prime pinnacles
@homeaudiobasics Haha I know. Another 5k pair I believe!!
@@evilmonstertruck Having said that, You can’t go wrong with the Caladans. Clayton Shaw is a genius.
Boy oh boy! It must be hot in the sound shed because NRD is on fire! You are pumping out great reviews like there is no tomorrow!
One question if you don’t mind, how big is your listening? Space?
Thanks! The shed is 28’ deep, 18’ wide and 11’ high.
Would you pick those over the Brute?
For beginner speaker builders who want to do a similar driver setup, use a 100 mf cap on the top bass/med driver to get about 130 hz cutoff.
It will have to wait until August 2024 here in Belgium before we can hear this in real life.
As you say yourself: hearing them in real life has an even better impression than the sound clip.
Although the sound clips already give a clear picture, especially since you played the 8, 10 and 888.
Time for a new reference is what I heard:)
Source point 10 are much more closer to reference tracks . I think source point 10 plus sub woofer will be better than 888. Source point 10 bass is faster and clean.
...clown shoes. i love it!
Haha!
For pricing I would like to compare with Fyne Audio F501SP. I would put all the chips in with Dr. Paul Mills (the former head of engineering at Tannoy) at Fyne Audio.
Wow, that first clip comparison was way more obvious than I expected
Hey Ricky, I had a feeling you were gonna notice that one!
Great review. If you add subs it might be worth putting an inline filter to the mains to roll off the bottom octave and let that mid bass driver work less...
Hope Andrew makes triple 10’s … Will patiently wait if so 🙏🙏🙏💪💪
I highly doubt it. He talked about it. The size would be too much. Probably 150lbs a speaker. And the cost. In the end, the 888's have a crap ton of bass anyway.
@@bearclaw5115 Andrew if listening ...will gladly purchase the beasts if decide to do
of course, the same thing could be accomplished with the SourcePoint 8s or 10s, with a pair of subs featuring high pass crossovers.
Good take here Ron. Do you know the length of the warranty? Thank you.
Hmm, how about LS Encore sitting on a double stack of GR Research servo subs? For less money?
This
Problem for us Europeans is we cant easy get GR equipment, unfortunately.
Nice review.
I hate to say it... but both the 10 and the 888 sounded great. A slight edge to the 888 and I have to believe that they would sound even better in person.
( I'm using Dita Project Ms for my IEMs and no EQ. )
I can't be the only one to have a hard time hearing much of a difference. Anyone else?
Price wise... $3K (Point 10) vs $5K (888s) either would be a good fit depending on budget.
BTW, Erin's review is out now... my next thing to listen to.... :-)
I can hear the difference fairly easily. The 10's have crispier vocals and more bass intrusion into the vocals as well. The 888's come off as more pure to the source but maybe less exciting depending on your point of view. For someone like Ron, these differences are everything. For most of us either will do just fine.
@@bearclaw5115
I should clarify... I could hear a slight difference... and yes the 888s sounded cleaner... but it was subtle and both were extremely close to the source. I mean if you weren't paying attention and doing casual listening... you probably couldn't tell which was which. Its not like a night and day difference.
'Heard these at Axpona…..blew me away at their price point.
i like 888
just to clarify, it is dual eights for bass duty. the top one is midrange.
Thats correct!
this remember me a little of the concept 500 sound, just with more LFE and the concept 500 having better innert cabinet, more coloration and warmth? i had a KEF R and the concentric beneficts i only hear them when i get up from the chair, at listening position the c500 to me sound like my previous point source, i also think the c500 should sound more holographic wider
Would these be okay in a small room situation?
I don’t think so. I think the bass would be overwhelming.
To me Poinsource 10 sounds more simlar to your reference tracks.
But are they better than the LRS encore upgraded kit with the open baffle servo sub inquiring minds want to know
You likely are already aware of "Birds" by Dominique fil amie. Great vocal and some interesting sonic content. First time listening surprised by sounds appearing in thin air around and above me. In the Sound Shed bet it would be special.
Very familiar with that track - it’s fantastic
JBL 100/82 classics or the 888 for sound according to your preference Ron? Thanks
I'd call that a no brainer.
@@r2d3vadar92 Ron does not seem like a JBL fan.
I think most JBLs are pretty average but own and use the JBL 4367 everyday as it is a special speaker. In this $5000 price range the 888 looks like a better option than passive JBLs.
The JBLs with large compression drivers crossed over in the 700-800 range are all really good. The none compression driver models are pretty meh imo.
Two JBLs that might be this for price/performance are the 4329 but I would lean toward the JBL 708p on the pro side as it has user adjustable EQ and far more flexible inputs…. But really the 888 is going to be on the hype train for a long time to come.
On build quality alone, these are light years ahead of the JBL 100 Classic. A friend of mine own the 100's, and even he would agree and admit that he jumped on the hype train with the 100's in regret. He's looking for new speakers right now. Soundwise it's oranges n' apples here, and only you can deside what sounds best to you. But imho the 888's are by far the better sounding speaker of the two, and I know I'm not alone on this statement.
@@chrisvand2678 You aren't buying JBL's for a tonally neutral presentation or soundstage and imaging. You buy them for the vintage sound.
Depends on what he is looking for I guess. I had a pair of JBL L-50's I bought late 70's. They were a fun speaker back then, I enjoyed them. But I wouldn't go back.
I still have Gallo 3.1’s i love’em. I wonder how these compare
Big boi
Tell Andrew to make a dual 10. With a 6in carbon fiber source point top section . Now active crossover and choices of class A tweeter amp.the class AB for mid bass.then use class D for the 10's. You could offer different amp combinations by budget or room configuration. The old out of business mcm had a 6.5 with dome two way that were superb source point after addition of a real good crossover. Humm
No “Hawk Tuah” required 😂😂😂 Nice one Ron!
You got that right!
Obvious question,triple eights or the Bullies,that's the direction I am leaning
That's not obvious and what is your question?
@@bearclaw5115 which one to buy,what the heck do you think I was asking
Great review Ron. How do you think these would sound relative to the Kef meta 11's? I purchased the 11's 2 months ago and now have buyers remorse after watching your review. :{ No hawk tuah is required!!! Hilarious.
Hard to say! I haven’t heard the 11’s so I don’t know how they compare to be honest with you.
Wait for Andre Robinson’s review. He’s the only one who reviews everything I’ve ever wanted to compare 😊
Which would be a better match for a center channel speaker to go with these? The 8s or the 10s?
My money’d be on the 8s; I’ve always preferred even a very capable centre channel folded into the LFE channel at between 80 - 100Hz. The speakers are happier, and if you’re using an AVR at its full complement of channels, the power supply will be happier as well.
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Did you bring back the Holo May? Do you explain your decision somewhere?
Bring back? I’ve never gotten rid of it.
@@Newrecordday2013 So, Pasithea just to spend a night out? hehehe
@@robertobrandoli4462 Oh, you got tricked by my clickbait title. No, the Pasithea didnt dethrone the May.
I'm obsessed with your reviews... Reference audio reviewer... PERIOD.
Wow thanks!
I have a triangle shaped living room set up. 8' in the corner where speakers are and opening up to like 20'. Are the 888's to much bass for that shape of room ? Thanks
I am sitting 11' away from speakers also.
Almost certainly yes. Look at the 2ft graph Ron provided, you are going to get a ____ton of room gain. You'd likely fair better with the 2k per pair SP8's and get a sub or two and locate them elsewhere if you can. But at least with a seperate sub you can manipulate the bass level easier to suit the odd room shape.
@@bearclaw5115 What about max SPL? Aren't those 888's going to blast music/movies louder compared to the SP8's?
I bet if you put small spacers on the speaker mount screws to make an acoustic gap (between driver and box) you would get an amazing sound! That is assuming that the top coaxial driver is in a SEPARATE chamber.😅 t's reversible, but if you don't want to f*ck with the speakers, build some similar (coaxial drivers are available) and then do the experiment. Experiment from 2 mm to 1 cm air gap. Acoustically it only works with a really small gap. Makes the sound more spacial.
If you did that you'd lose pressure within the speaker. From what I know they don't take to kindly to that.
the first and last track in the comparison showed me the most difference between refence, 10's and 888's.
the 888 sounded like a bass boost compared to 1 refence track, 10's was neutral.
on the last track there was deep bass content, the 10's was neutral but lacked bass extension, the 888 was bass boosted but had no deep bass.
this is why full range is important, otherwise you do not hear what is on the tracks. based on the graph at 18:15 bass is lost below 30hz, as my listening confirmed.
You make mention that other speakers you’ve reviewed provide a better soundstage reaching further around the listener. Could you tell us what speakers come to mind?