The gentleman speaking is Peter Macintosh, he married a retired geisha and is one of the few foreigners regularly allowed access into the geisha community. He's an expert when it comes to geisha customs.
@Mephisto Lestat.Morgan Do you have a link to the source and proof of this? I'm not doubting you but I didn't know. I don't follow his personal life only I do know he gave me a creepy-ish vibe maybe it was bc he was bug-eyed and losing his hair but if what you say is true then the vibe was from the fact that he was a creeper. What maiko was it?
@Meph Lest No worries, I'm not doubting you at all. I just wasn't aware of his personal life- other than he married a retired Tayuu. Anyways, if you find a link or anything that doesn't get deleted. Id like to read it. Do you know who the maiko was?
Thanks! I forgot my $500 audio transmitter there that day and when I went back for it, it was gone 😅. So I'm at least glad that the audio is being appreciated 🥰
@@TheLAexplorer I rarely find anything good like this. I also very appreciate that the audiences were polite and quite during the performance. I enjoyed every second of Miehina's singing. Thank you very much!
@@TheLAexplorer oh no thats so unfortunate! But it stuck out to me as well that the audio is very good, the music was very pleasant and the dances amazing of course, I'd love to see a live geisha performance someday! thanks for sharing
The Japan Foundation Los Angeles hosts many cultural events. If you're interested in attending one of these, you can find more information on their website. Links are in the description.
if you are bothered by an acceptable circumstances you will be bothered by and will get annoyed of any small things. the photographer was part of the staff, you better apologize and the two who replied.
Can someone explain what to movements of the dances mean? Like in bollywood dances everymovement has a meaning, here I dont understand. In some movements they look like laying the table
Yes, just like Bollywood and other Indian dances, the movements are made to tell a story, they follow along with the lyrics of the song ^^And of course every dance school has different movements to portray different emotions, acts, thoughts, even environment ^^ Unfortunately though, I'm not knowledgeable enough to understand the movements, nor do I know what the lines in the song mean that they're trying to portray. ^^
Maiko starts at 15 and the oldest is 20 to 21. In kyoto they are endangered arts getting smaller by the year. dont you know there are caucasian geishas living in japan?
@@Viv8ldi Western/Caucasian genuine, professional geishas or geisha-wannabes are EXTREMELY rare in Japan. Most seem to want to learn about the "geisha lifestyle" in order to get a book published or a film made about their exotic journeys. However, women from around the world do visit Kyoto,for example, where they go to places where they can become "Maikos for a Day" complete with kimono, white makeup and wig.This is a feature of the tourist industry in Japan. The number of "authentic" geishas have declined over the years from several thousands to around 1000 today. It's not competition with foreign "geishas" that's causing this decline. It's the reality of the changes in modern day Japanese society and culture in regards to the status of Japanese women that is the major factor .
Mizuage has always existed, but for geisha it never involved the ceremonial deflowering of a girl, that practice was done by yuujo (common prostitutes) and courtesans.
Hard to tell a "happy" Geisha tune from a "sad" Geisha tune w/o knowing the backstory of the dances. It's all in the gestures and body language, as their faces generally remain pretty impassive. Its a language few people in the West know w/o an "interpreter". Its like "Japan" itself, writ small...
It is a tradition of Japan that they favor sad stories and songs. Such spirit is called "Mono no aware(物の哀れ, you can read it on wiki)". If you find it depressing, she sang well.
Geisha definitely wear maiko makeup. Especially young geisha and tachikata (dancing) geisha^^, but yes, this documentary seems to mostly focus on maiko. The signs that she's a maiko however have nothing to do with her makeup^^
Moushi Moushi exactly. Maiko and geisha can be distinguished by many different things. Maiko: Has very ornate hair dressings and a jewel on the Obi. A Geiko does not have either of these things as their outfit is much more simpler and mature.
@@jamesasterwolf584 Going into some more detail; Hairstyle Maiko: Maiko actually wear a lot of different hairstyles through their apprenticeship, especially for special occasions like Setsubun, their sakkou stage, the different monthly events, etc but for most of the time they wear Wareshinobu with Junior Maiko Kanzashi when they're Juniors, and Ofuku with Senior Maiko Kanzashi when they're Seniors. Geiko: Tachikata (Dancers) and younger Geiko normally wear a Katsura (wig) styled in Geiko Shimada. When a Geiko is performing the tea ceremony for the Miyako Odori, she'll have her natural hair styled in Kyofuu shimada. Jikata (Musicians) and older Geiko will wear their hair styled in Yohatsu (Western Style) which is a nice simple up do. Kanzashi (Hair ornaments) Maiko hair ornaments are bigger, more colorful, and change depending on the month. They wear a large variety of hair ornaments. Geiko wear much more simple hair ornaments, these are normally things like Bekko Kogai which are the stick like Kanzashi at the back, and young geiko will wear a Maezashi where the big flower kanzashi used to be when she was a maiko, but this normally goes away after they become Jimae (independent) their Nameki, a strip of silver strips of paper at the back of their hairstyle under the top knot will also be cut after she becomes senior. Under Collars: Junior Maiko will wear under collars that have lots of reds, golds, and silvers, especially when they're just starting, as they get further in their training, less red is used and gold and silvers stops being used for the most part, so you have a lot of cream with red patterns. Senior Maiko will wear a heavily embroidered undercollar almost completely embroidered in cream, the base color is still red though, which can be seen at the back of their neck when they turn around, but around they look like cream with a lot of texture. Geiko wear completely white undercollars, all the way around, with no texture or embroidery Kimono: Both junior and Senior Maiko wear Furisode Kimono, these are with long sleeves. The sleeves and shoulders have tucks in them, calling back to the fact that they're considered children as this was a common practice to do to children's kimono, allowing them to grow into the kimono instead of needing to purchase new ones every few months to fit the child. The patterning depends on the seniority as well. Junior Maiko have large, child like decorations on their kimono that are spread pretty much throughout. Senior Maiko have more mature motifs and the patterning moves down to the skirt and the bottom half of the sleeves (This doesn't include Komon, which are kimono that have repeating patterns throughout the kimono) They may also have a bit of pattern on the right shoulder. Geiko wear Kosode kimono, these are with short sleeves, the patterning is also pretty restricted to the skirt, the sleeves, and on the right shoulder, these of course are also more mature motifs. Obi: maiko wear darari (dangling) obi that go almost down to their ankles. They also wear Pochiri (The jewel you were referring to) strapped to the front of their obi with an Obijime (Obi Cord) they however don't wear this decoration during formal events. These pochiri are the most expensive parts of their outfits and are passed down from generation to generation in their okiya. Maiko also have their Obiage (The strip of red at the top of their obi) shown and untied, now this tradition varies from kagai to kagai, but all Junior Maiko have their obiage at the front and untied. Some Kagai have their maiko tie and tuck their obiage behind their obi when they become Senior Maiko, some tie their obiage when they're a year away from transitioning to Geiko, or the month following up to them wearing Sakkou Geiko wear obi tied in Taiko Musubi, a very simple square shaped traditional knot worn by grown women, they also do not wear Pochiri but do wear Obijime except for formal events just like their maiko sisters ^^ Juban: Juban is the under kimono that you'll see when Maiko or Geiko lift their kimono in order to walk outside. Maiko wear Red Juban with gold, silver, or white patterns depending on the formality. Geiko can wear a lot of different colored Juban including light yellow, light blue, or other colors, but most of the time they choose to wear a light pink color. They'll wear red with golden patterns during formal events. Footwear: Maiko wear Okobo (those really tall sandal style footwear) when they don't have a long way to walk, for photoshoots, or photo events, or when the weather allows for it. Otherwise they can wear Zori, which are much more comfortable and easy to walk around in, they're also like sandals and made of fabrics and have more padding. Geiko wear Zori most of the time and will wear Geta for formal events which are wooden and have "teeth" one at the front and one at the back with a gap in the middle of the shoe. That covers most all of it from the top of my head ^^
The gentleman speaking is Peter Macintosh, he married a retired geisha and is one of the few foreigners regularly allowed access into the geisha community. He's an expert when it comes to geisha customs.
Great piece of information. Thanks for sharing!
He is a facebook friend. A very nice guy.
@Mephisto Lestat.Morgan Do you have a link to the source and proof of this? I'm not doubting you but I didn't know. I don't follow his personal life only I do know he gave me a creepy-ish vibe maybe it was bc he was bug-eyed and losing his hair but if what you say is true then the vibe was from the fact that he was a creeper. What maiko was it?
@Meph Lest No worries, I'm not doubting you at all. I just wasn't aware of his personal life- other than he married a retired Tayuu. Anyways, if you find a link or anything that doesn't get deleted. Id like to read it. Do you know who the maiko was?
@Meph Lest well hope she can move past it, and have a successful career whoever she is
Really interesting to see two schools of dance at the same time.
Great video. Both dancing styles are beautiful and sophisticated. Awesome to watch both at the same time.
Fantastic video. I've seen both dances many times but this is special, to see both schools of dance together! Thank you for sharing!
I loved all the performers, they each showed elegance and were beautiful.
This recording is priceless. The audio is perfect.
Thanks! I forgot my $500 audio transmitter there that day and when I went back for it, it was gone 😅. So I'm at least glad that the audio is being appreciated 🥰
@@TheLAexplorer I rarely find anything good like this. I also very appreciate that the audiences were polite and quite during the performance. I enjoyed every second of Miehina's singing. Thank you very much!
@@TheLAexplorer oh no thats so unfortunate! But it stuck out to me as well that the audio is very good, the music was very pleasant and the dances amazing of course, I'd love to see a live geisha performance someday! thanks for sharing
Both schools are awesome and look really good together
The Japan Foundation Los Angeles hosts many cultural events. If you're interested in attending one of these, you can find more information on their website. Links are in the description.
Fantastic
Beautiful 😍
小なみ(Konami)さん引かれたの残念ですね。
綺麗やったのに、、、。
Could have been a great video but photo-bombed-creepy guys in the background smashed it.
爪の先まで意識が行き届いている
素晴らしい舞でした
ありがとうございました
I really need a Tea House! ❤❤❤
COMPLIMENTI. UNA BELLISSIMA DANZA 😃🤗E ALLA DANZATRICE.IL KIMONO STUPENDO...GRAZIE A VOI 😘😃😍🌻💐🌹
美恵雛さん、good。
Thank you for the information.
The photographer is ruining the landscape of the artists!
Get off of there!
Let the creep have some fun
if you are bothered by an acceptable circumstances you will be bothered by and will get annoyed of any small things. the photographer was part of the staff, you better apologize and the two who replied.
Thank you for sharing😊🇯🇵🌸
I fill like art work at it best
Woman work so hard art take time best art work ever music
Wow beautiful
Beautiful performance. 😘
The photographer was a major distraction
The flashes going off in the background made it look like they were dancing in front of a lighthouse. Very distracting, and rude.
Can someone explain what to movements of the dances mean? Like in bollywood dances everymovement has a meaning, here I dont understand. In some movements they look like laying the table
Yes, just like Bollywood and other Indian dances, the movements are made to tell a story, they follow along with the lyrics of the song ^^And of course every dance school has different movements to portray different emotions, acts, thoughts, even environment ^^ Unfortunately though, I'm not knowledgeable enough to understand the movements, nor do I know what the lines in the song mean that they're trying to portray. ^^
It is a form of mime, where each movement has a meaning. The stories are mainly about unrequited love or star crossed lovers.
wooooooow
Very beautiful.
Its relaxing to watch. Then the random dude with a camera pops up behind.
Seriously gauche
No one gonna mention the guy in the background
まあ不思議どす‼️宮川町のみえ雛はんに甲部のお二人はん。花街が違うのに、貴重どす。
Who knew you can find locations like this in LA. Best city in the world, we have it all!
How long is she a Maiko, she is so good
4 to 5 years
Maiko starts at 15 and the oldest is 20 to 21. In kyoto they are endangered arts getting smaller by the year. dont you know there are caucasian geishas living in japan?
@@semajjames1136 No I didnt know about caucasion geishas
@@Viv8ldi Western/Caucasian genuine, professional geishas or geisha-wannabes are EXTREMELY rare in Japan. Most seem to want to learn about the "geisha lifestyle" in order to get a book published or a film made about their exotic journeys. However, women from around the world do visit Kyoto,for example, where they go to places where they can become "Maikos for a Day" complete with kimono, white makeup and wig.This is a feature of the tourist industry in Japan.
The number of "authentic" geishas have declined over the years from several thousands to around 1000 today. It's not competition with foreign "geishas" that's causing this decline. It's the reality of the changes in modern day Japanese society and culture in regards to the status of Japanese women that is the major factor .
@@Frank-mm2yp you are so knowledgable, I would love to have an interview with you. Do you study this thing kind of or is this your hobby?
These are maiko.
The one dancing is a maiko but the one playing the instrument is a geisha
Is mizuage exist until now?
Mizuage has always existed, but for geisha it never involved the ceremonial deflowering of a girl, that practice was done by yuujo (common prostitutes) and courtesans.
The music is Depressing 🌺
It is very relaxing when you are in pease with yourself. When I was depressed during university I also couldnt stand this without getting worse
Hard to tell a "happy" Geisha tune from a "sad" Geisha tune w/o knowing the backstory of the dances. It's all in the gestures and body language, as their faces generally remain pretty impassive. Its a language few people in the West know w/o an "interpreter". Its like "Japan"
itself, writ small...
Is because is only playinga with a shamisen with the taikos and other instruments for sure ir geta more happy i recomend You
It is a tradition of Japan that they favor sad stories and songs. Such spirit is called "Mono no aware(物の哀れ, you can read it on wiki)". If you find it depressing, she sang well.
thats a maiko not geisha, geisha do not wears makeups
Geisha definitely wear maiko makeup. Especially young geisha and tachikata (dancing) geisha^^, but yes, this documentary seems to mostly focus on maiko. The signs that she's a maiko however have nothing to do with her makeup^^
Moushi Moushi exactly. Maiko and geisha can be distinguished by many different things. Maiko: Has very ornate hair dressings and a jewel on the Obi. A Geiko does not have either of these things as their outfit is much more simpler and mature.
@@jamesasterwolf584 Going into some more detail;
Hairstyle
Maiko: Maiko actually wear a lot of different hairstyles through their apprenticeship, especially for special occasions like Setsubun, their sakkou stage, the different monthly events, etc but for most of the time they wear Wareshinobu with Junior Maiko Kanzashi when they're Juniors, and Ofuku with Senior Maiko Kanzashi when they're Seniors.
Geiko: Tachikata (Dancers) and younger Geiko normally wear a Katsura (wig) styled in Geiko Shimada. When a Geiko is performing the tea ceremony for the Miyako Odori, she'll have her natural hair styled in Kyofuu shimada. Jikata (Musicians) and older Geiko will wear their hair styled in Yohatsu (Western Style) which is a nice simple up do.
Kanzashi (Hair ornaments)
Maiko hair ornaments are bigger, more colorful, and change depending on the month. They wear a large variety of hair ornaments.
Geiko wear much more simple hair ornaments, these are normally things like Bekko Kogai which are the stick like Kanzashi at the back, and young geiko will wear a Maezashi where the big flower kanzashi used to be when she was a maiko, but this normally goes away after they become Jimae (independent) their Nameki, a strip of silver strips of paper at the back of their hairstyle under the top knot will also be cut after she becomes senior.
Under Collars:
Junior Maiko will wear under collars that have lots of reds, golds, and silvers, especially when they're just starting, as they get further in their training, less red is used and gold and silvers stops being used for the most part, so you have a lot of cream with red patterns.
Senior Maiko will wear a heavily embroidered undercollar almost completely embroidered in cream, the base color is still red though, which can be seen at the back of their neck when they turn around, but around they look like cream with a lot of texture.
Geiko wear completely white undercollars, all the way around, with no texture or embroidery
Kimono:
Both junior and Senior Maiko wear Furisode Kimono, these are with long sleeves. The sleeves and shoulders have tucks in them, calling back to the fact that they're considered children as this was a common practice to do to children's kimono, allowing them to grow into the kimono instead of needing to purchase new ones every few months to fit the child. The patterning depends on the seniority as well. Junior Maiko have large, child like decorations on their kimono that are spread pretty much throughout. Senior Maiko have more mature motifs and the patterning moves down to the skirt and the bottom half of the sleeves (This doesn't include Komon, which are kimono that have repeating patterns throughout the kimono) They may also have a bit of pattern on the right shoulder.
Geiko wear Kosode kimono, these are with short sleeves, the patterning is also pretty restricted to the skirt, the sleeves, and on the right shoulder, these of course are also more mature motifs.
Obi:
maiko wear darari (dangling) obi that go almost down to their ankles. They also wear Pochiri (The jewel you were referring to) strapped to the front of their obi with an Obijime (Obi Cord) they however don't wear this decoration during formal events. These pochiri are the most expensive parts of their outfits and are passed down from generation to generation in their okiya. Maiko also have their Obiage (The strip of red at the top of their obi) shown and untied, now this tradition varies from kagai to kagai, but all Junior Maiko have their obiage at the front and untied. Some Kagai have their maiko tie and tuck their obiage behind their obi when they become Senior Maiko, some tie their obiage when they're a year away from transitioning to Geiko, or the month following up to them wearing Sakkou
Geiko wear obi tied in Taiko Musubi, a very simple square shaped traditional knot worn by grown women, they also do not wear Pochiri but do wear Obijime except for formal events just like their maiko sisters ^^
Juban:
Juban is the under kimono that you'll see when Maiko or Geiko lift their kimono in order to walk outside. Maiko wear Red Juban with gold, silver, or white patterns depending on the formality. Geiko can wear a lot of different colored Juban including light yellow, light blue, or other colors, but most of the time they choose to wear a light pink color. They'll wear red with golden patterns during formal events.
Footwear:
Maiko wear Okobo (those really tall sandal style footwear) when they don't have a long way to walk, for photoshoots, or photo events, or when the weather allows for it. Otherwise they can wear Zori, which are much more comfortable and easy to walk around in, they're also like sandals and made of fabrics and have more padding.
Geiko wear Zori most of the time and will wear Geta for formal events which are wooden and have "teeth" one at the front and one at the back with a gap in the middle of the shoe.
That covers most all of it from the top of my head ^^
Geisha = Vehicle
Geiko = Truck
Maiko = Car
They all vehicle.. How can you tell car is not vehicle?? Can you get it??
Youre constantly digressing..
This looks so fake. I'm sorry, but that girl in Karate Kid II had more grace than these "gay-shus".