2023 Nissan Maxima SR - POV Review
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2023 Nissan Maxima SR
3.5L V-6
300 hp, 261 lb-ft
XTronic Transmission (CVT)
Front wheel drive
Base Price: $43,300
As Tested: $45,130
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Nissan’s obsession with CVT killed this car
killed Nissan. They used to be the sporty brand of the big japanese three.
I know it's the reason I didn't buy one early this year
Yep, the cvt made it a no go when I bought last month
Yep. Add the Pathfinder transmission into the maxima at least.
This car with the Pathfinder’s transmission would’ve been amazing…
This VQ35 is a great engine, I really wish they gave the Maxima a proper gearbox, it woulda been great if it had a 7 or 9 speed automatic.
6 speed manual / 6+ speed auto and awd and it would have sold
Also As Tested: $45,130 is a lot to ask for a Nissan with GPS from 2014
Imagine if it had a PDK transmission OMG
@@vitreoushumor Im fine with it being FWD, an AWD system would add a few hundred pounds to an already 3,700lb sedan and it seems to put it's power down pretty well for 300HP, for me it's just the CVT that lets this car down, and it definitely lets down this 3.5L V6 which is a great motor, If Nissan put a Jatco 7 or 9 speed in the Maxima it would be great, a competitor like the Hyundai Sonata N Line has a DCT.
Heavy steering at low speed but light steering at high speed? That's the exact opposite of what people want from a car's steering.
I had a maxima as a rental and the light steering was scary at high speeds. There's a corner I could throw my 2016 optima in at 60 mph with no issue, but the maxima felt like it was gonna veer off of the road because the steering is so vague and light. It felt like I was driving a car with only one wheel in the center of the car.
What? You do realize thats exactly how all sports cars drive right?
@@kyron2092bruh aint no way that 10 y old clapped kia on yo pfp handles better than this maxima my boy
@damian8792 LMAOOOOO not you upset because the maxima ( which is actually just as old as my Optima) has sloppy ass steering. I didn't say my Optima handles better, I pointed out how the maxima doesn't feel as confident in the same corner 🤣 you'll probably be pissed to find out my optima rides better too huh? The Maxima has a bumpy ride and a lot of journalists pointed that out too. The Maxima is my favorite Nissan and one of my favorite sedans of all time, but it has some shortcomings. I would know I drove one for 2 months and loved it ☺️
@@Ben-ug6tc noooo, sports cars have firm steering at higher speeds
perfect car to go 200mph during rush hour traffic in the emergency lane 🔥🔥🔥
that's the altima my guy
@bowmanfan9731 😅
@@bowmanfan9731 Yup, Altima drivers do this all the time
@@rileystanek ik one passed me last week doing 90 in a 50
It's really funny to see Nissan make a powerhouse of a car that's incredibly good and has a promising powertrain but then go right ahead and put a CVT on it that they know won't last as long as a traditional automatic
Money propblems I guess
can't have it compete with the q70 ig
@@RJtheREBEL21 kia had the stinger compete with the G70. Only one made it out alive
@@AS-oo4gvNissan using a CVT has nothing to do with money problems.. look at how many years Nissan has been using CVTs. It's to stand out. It's to be unique. It's to be different... They invested a lot of research and design into the cvts.
A white ‘06 Nissan Maxima blasting Sexyy Red music is the easiest way to approach the speed of light. Proven tests performed daily on open courses such as I-10W, I-95N, I-5N, plus many more.
if this had a normal transmission for example infiniti's 7 speed this car would be perfect
@spectremonk they have other transmissions that aren't cvt's
@spectremonk yeah use that in this car
Remember when the Nissan Maxima was the king of 4DSCs (4 door sports cars)? Well, unless you are as young as substitute Topher, Pepperidge Farm remembers. It had a manual transmission, rev happy V6 and some of the coolest instrument gauges ever.
RIP to the Maxima. Hopefully itll make a return as a sporty EV.
how did this guy comment yesterday THIS VID DROPPED 12 SECONDS AGO
Bro time travelled ☠️
@@2015BLOXXERfacts
Yeah, the Nissan Maxima SE was a very sporty car and it had the Bose system in it.
@@bowmanfan9731paying members get access to it a day early
The cvt and this vq pair really well imo. It doesn’t gear hunt all the time - it just goes. The Camry v6 with 8 speed is constantly searching around before it gives you the power to go. I have a cvt paired to a 4 cylinder, but I was really impressed with it paired to the torquey V6.
So many people aren't comfortable with "it's different" even if it has advantages. Very weird
45 grand for this is wild when you consider that the Camry TRD exists.
There have to be incentives for this cause ain’t no way ppl buying this 😂
@@ramennoodlz No reason to bash a discontinued car for its sales numbers...
More than just a camry trd. The only time I see these are when they are cutting me off in traffic. They are all over buy here pay here lots in florida because the dealers buy them at auctions as repos because nissan will give a loan to almost anyone. with a heartbeat.
Dudes are out here paing 900 a month on a car and their rent isn't even that much
Or Elantra N
@@ramennoodlz
People didn't buy it, that is why it is discontinued.
2004 maxima was my first car. I like the 16-23 but i can’t get over the CVT
Electrohydraulic steering (often called e-HPAS) is a traditional hydraulic power steering pump driven by a small electric motor.
Love watching your guy's vids since you're in MI like me 😁 hope to see you out on the road some day!
I had one of these, a 2018. It went through two recalls for leaking brake fluid, then it leaked brake fluid and left me without working brakes. I got rid of it ASAP. Good riddance. I got it only because the driver’s seat is super comfortable for a very tall driver.
My brain can’t fathom $45k for a maxima
Look at the prices for a new q50 you’d be shocked
@@startopkiller8259A q50 is trash but at least it isn’t a shitty Nissan maxima.
@@DsgSleazythe Q50 is far from trash. No other car within the same price offers you a twin turbo V6.
@@coolamazon123g70
@@coolamazon123Lexus LS500 ?
I had a ‘95 Sport Maxima with the 5spd and white faced gauges - I LOVED that car. Still miss it today.
I had a 2016 version when it came out. I enjoyed it until I traded it in 2022 for a Subaru wilderness but:
1-had a back knocking sound that ended up being shocks and Nissan took care of it after a year of visits.
2-no issues either with cvt but you really have to change the cvt oil every 25k or else it does start slowing down and whine more.
3-front control arms and bushings went bad at 60k and paid $1800 to replace them. No I was not off roading, just from high way speeds
4-always shacky around 80+ miles although I did stick with the stock tires even for replacement and it could have been one bad tire but still irritated me that it didn’t feel together after owning it a while.
5-she is very efficient even with premium fuel. You can get two weeks out of her.
6-my model never had apple car play and Nissan wouldn’t give it to us 2016 owners so this version gets the best version of it all but I felt it was a slap at the time for paying all this money and Nissan wouldn’t give it to us as a courtesy.
7-60k maintenance is horribly expensive and you can’t just change spark plugs on these things that easy.
8-AC isn’t enough and doesn’t cool car quick enough
9-Ac controls went bad operationally but worked fine for me or I made it work until I could trade it on
10-don’t put this thing through car washes, Nissan paint will not survive and start oxidizing around 50k
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I wonder who is buying this. The price, $40k+, for a car that is essentially unchanged since 2018 seems absolutely insane.
Nobody is buying them technically. Someone with a 500 credit score walking into a nissan dealer with maybe 1000 bucks that's gonna have it for 2 months before it gets repo'd
@@jeremyickes5699and is probably gonna smell like the devils lettuce 😂
Cars are expensive today. It is absolutely competitive. Match all of the features with a competitor. The competitor will probably be more expensive.
I had the ‘95 Nissan Maxima GLE with the 3.0 liter V6 engine. It was a great car to drive. Nissan killed this car when they went to the CVT transmission and introduced the Altima. The Altima was supposed to be the little brother to the Maxima, but it overtook the Maxima, when Nissan didn’t advanced the Maxima properly and kept it stale.
CVT transmission**
@@dreamteamtokyo Thank you
Camery TRD - $5000 cheaper
Infiniti Q50 - $4000 cheaper
Lexus ES350 - $2000 more.
There is literally no value proposition here especially considering the Q50 has the 7 speed and AWD. Even a dodge Charger (which is complete crap) is $12,000 less with the V6.
No such thing as a TRD PRO Camry
new v6 charger is 22k right now like 14k off. would get one of those over any of the cars on your list
Not to disagree but it was always much easier to get these way below MSRP. Plus, on the used market, they became a much better bang for your back vs a poverty spec Camry or accord. (Especially sound system wise) if it were me now, regardless of price I’d say a q50 or an ES would make more sense even on the used market because they fulfill their roles better. The maxima was always kinda half ass between luxury and sport.
Have you seen the materials in TRD camry? That 8spd is isn't the greatest either. The maxima is a much nicer car and that's why it cost more.
@@occckid123a much nicer car that will break down after 60k miles.
Wanted to get a really nice loaded Black 2023 Maxima SR last November, the car was sitting on the lot for almost 1 year at that point, and the Nissan dealership was still asking close to 47K for it.
I even made them an offer of $42K, but they would not budge on the price. The Car sat there till a few months ago with Nissan still asking $47K for it. I don't see it anymore; I'm guessing they finally sold it to some auction place.
It definitely moves!
the interior is the exact same as my 2017🫤i understand not changing if it doesn’t need it, but some tweaks wouldn’t hurt.
The Maxima should have an AWD model.
I actually like the CVT, but the FWD kills it for me.
It's a shame what the fools at Nissan have done to the Maxima. This should be the best in class sedan.
I had a Maxima as rental last year. "Weird" is an appropriate description of the steering. By the return to the airport a few days later, I enjoyed driving the car overall (and mildly tolerated the steering and some CVT annoyances). Good car, but could have been great. Such a shame.
I'm a fan of Nissan for years & I will buy this.
get a camry trd
i drive a lot of these cars and they always put a smile on my face the engine sounds pretty good and there pretty fast even thought its a cvt the Nissan vq pulls very hard but id rather honestly have a trd Camry for the price and the looks
Have a 2017 with 150k miles so far. Same gen as in the video and its been troublefree. I agree with your analysis, overall its a great car to drive around. The CVT isnt as bad as in the Altima and Rogue but def not a sports car. Great for roadtrips and commutes. Feels very different from the cheaper cars and more responsive. I still think the Maxima looks good on the road but its not worth the new MSRP price nowadays. The interior is great and comfy though.
I got a ND2 Miata RF to daily so I don't drive the Maxima as much anymore but I think I'll have it for a long time as a second car.
I always dug the sound of this motor when pushed.
Even with the CVT, I think this generation was underrated, and I owned one. But the perception was there...
This car shifts a lot quicker in sport mode auto!
This is the exact vehicle I picture when I think of a Rental Car
I see a check Malibu or a chevy equinox. Or a bolt or a Tahoe
@@occckid123cant forget the ford edge too if youre talking suvs
I had a maxima for a rental. Great power for a rental, the ride was just a bit bumpy and the fake shifts are annoying
i can’t imagine this with a zf 8/9 speed. it’d be a sleeper.
They messed up BIG TIME ditching the Maxima. Stuck with a car that has its own meme 😂
Love this generation of the maxima. I got the chance to test drive it and I had no complaints about the cvt. Pulls very hard.
Shoulda had the 9 speed zf from the Pathfinder
Makes me miss my 2006 Maxima SL
I bought my '16 Maxima SV new. I have 157K miles now. Not one issue with this car. Still pulls like a train. I'm a mechanical engineer, so I do all preventative maintenance, esp. all fluids. You can't compare the flimsy feel of the Altima to the solid feel of the Maxima (beefier/heavier suspension components); I also had an '07 Altima 3.5SE with 170K miles from new, so I know all about it.
That interior would’ve been acceptable in 2015
If they focused on interior back then they would be loved more
if it ain’t broke don’t touch it
Unfortunately they discontinued the maxima.
This was ok for 2015 but who would spend 40-50k on an outdated car? Also I've been disappointed that they never gave this car a 9 or 8 speed transmission.
I picked up a 2017 back in 2020 for $18k and cannot imagine paying $45k. That being said, if you can pick one up second hand for cheap, they are fantastic value. I have 80k miles on mine and have had 0 issues. The CVT isn't THAT bad and in my opinion, its smooth and makes for a good daily driver. I love the cabin of this car, its very comfortable and feels like a cockpit. Calling this a "sport" sedan is laughable to me. Its a big comfortable, cruiser.
I once considered one of these but the cvt killed it for me
I was just at the nissan of canton yesterday, trying to buy a nissan sentra sv. Maybe ill try to work with matthew to get a better deal!
I think this is hands down the worst fake shifting I’ve seen from a CVT yet. It seemed not responsive when he “downshifted” the paddle.
Yeah the paddles are completely pointless. 100% just a “leave it in drive” car.
Noticed that too
Awesome 😎 thanks brother!!🙏
I have to say the way Nissan went about this car is about as weird as any car could be. So they design this thing as a performance sedan and they went above and beyond to give it an amazing, throaty sounding V6 fixed paddle shifters, wider body, nice seats, but they absolutely pooped the bed with that absolutely awful CVT and that weird, steering that's heavier at slow speeds and lighter at high speeds.
It's really weird to wonder what the designers of this car were thinking... there must have been a ton of arguments within the design/product development team.
most surprising thing to me was that this has lambo /mclaren big column mounted paddles
I would lease one for two or three years. Enjoy it and give it back.
Interesting, it seems this car hasn't been fitted with the semi-detached rear bumper option
I would love to see you compare this to the 2015 Infiniti Q50S. These 2 cars are SOOOO similar inside except the Infiniti is RWD and 7-speed. Maybe even the Q50S with DAS (their steer-by-wire) if you want to keep the funky steering theme going on
When I rented a Q50 with traditional EPS it was already pretty lifeless. I don't recommend the Q50 with steer by wire to anyone, even people who don't care about steering feel.
I´ll wish living in Mineapolis or something like that.
that price is ridiculous for a car like this. No wonder dealers are struggling.
Sub Topher speaks like Topher!
I would have purchased this car in 2020 if it wasn't for that cvt. Instead I purchased a 2020 Impala Premier that i've owned almost 4 years now.
The Maxima was a great vehicle but because the things that were going on with Nissan itself I don’t think and believe the Maxima, Altima, QX30, QX50 or the QX55 would have gotten an a/t just because the vehicles were already slated in Carlos era and its why when Makoto came in and the Pathfinder was being refreshed its why it and a few others got an upgraded transmission..
Let’s remember that they had sold their shares from Mercedes Benz
They also was in turmoil with the Japanese government
They had lost tons of cash because of a greedy CEO and who was turning the company into a eco box because of Renault and trying to merge Nissan into Renault to hide funds and build cheap vehicles
Lets also not forget that it was not Nissan fault but Carlos that made every bad decision for Nissan and Mitsubishi but wanted to continue to use these two companies to be a cash cow for Renault who is owned by the French government as well ..
Its a lot and I feel its why Nissan is still trying to find its way back because of all the things that happned
The last year should have the 9 speed from the pathfinder
False on the steering. It simply means not driven by the accessory belt
I'd much rather have an Acura TLX or Toyota Crown for this money
Toyota crown 🤢 shit barely moves
Imagine with a traditional gearbox or aanual this thing would rip just a shame with a cvt on this nice car
“hey guys this is substitute Topher”
lmao
Why is that funny?
Needed a 6 speed
Awesome car, just wait three years and scoop up one of these for 2/3 of brand new price
Love the huge paddle shifters 👌
Maxima was a valuable car... They should've made a new gen and of course, with an AT or a DCT and not a goddamn CVT
I'll never undeserved the CVT hate, does this car not run and drive just like any others on the road?
not having gear shifts is a completely different car to a car person. it sounds terrible and the simulated shifts aren’t that good imo.
You aren't buying a Nissan maxima because it's a race car who cares what trans is in it😭😂
If Nissan had a properly designed CVT that had a standard first gear to protect the links of the belt I’d consider it but 45k for a time bomb is insane
Our family has had Six (6) Nissans in a row from 2011 to 2020 and has absolutely never had a problem with any of the CVTs. Also, multiple people in this very comment section report the same thing.
45K??!!! THIS COST MORE THAN MY 21 TACOMA LMAOOOOO
The start beep sounds like a microwave
1 hour gang
‘’Port installed accessories?” Really? I would thought that a dealer would be responsible for those….
This could have been something special had they given us a DSG and the 3.7 out of last gen Z. Good looking car. Instead, CVT made their "sport" sedan invisible to enthusiasts. Nissan just isn't learning and is just going shove this CVT down our throats until they are no longer in business here.
Now you have to find a manual maxima to drive
Why not put a gtr r35 engine and transmission in that ?
Nissan really needs to recalculate
I did test drive this generation and i absolutely don’t know what is it
Engine has more than enough power and good sound while the gearbox is dead and kill the fun factor.
Handling is ok but the steering is so light and slow and doesn’t have enough feel.
Styling is sporty and the car is low but the cabin is quiet and comfy.
Bro is driving the 2023 Nissan Snoozefest limited (pillow edition)
Damn bruh u be hating on every new car on the market 🔥 ur comments are everywhere
bro’s a professional hater w a bus pass 🚍
@@damian8792 what can I say lol, new cars leave a lot to be desired 🥱
@@damian8792 what can I say. New cars leave a lot to be desired 🥱
@@damian8792 it’s not an easy job but someone has to do it 🙂↕️
Would be a perfect car if it just had a traditional geared auto
My dad had an 06 Maxima (the last year with a 5 speed auto OR 6 speed manual, his was an auto) but the transmission ended up breaking (shocker) so it sat in our driveway for years until we resurrected it and I drove it around for about a year until it got totalled because it got struck by lightning while I was driving it. Cursed car.
Caught me off guard when you said you were in canton lol. Never had a TH-camr who was acc in my town. For the car though, 46 grand is ridiculous for a Nissan, especially with their poor cvt reliability.
If they were going to make a sport sedan aleast add a automatic instead of a CVT 😭🙏
Versa 5 spd so much better lol
There's nothing more depressing than a rear armrest that just flops down onto the seat bottom
I loved it. So well designed. Hated the cvt and always having to unlock the doors.
Just a bunch of sheep in the comments. I hate the car community. There’s nothing wrong with this damn car having a CVT. The ONLY down side is starting off. The belt starts off slow then needs to ramp up speed. That’s it. Once the needle reaches 4k you’re good! A regular auto would just push you back into your seat more and have a better take off.
If y’all change your damn fluid in your transmission you won’t have issues. From what it seems , Nissan releases a new CVT every 3 weeks, this car is FINE. do you damn maintenance and you’ll be FINE! you don’t even hear of these cars having transmission issues YET you hear ALOT of Honda accords going through head gaskets and transmissions, yet y’all go for those all day long. None of you know a crap thing about cars. It’s just everyone repeating the same old stupid song.
100% Agree with this. People don't maintain their crap or beat the crap out of it and then wonder why it fails.
Yes! The last sentence is what I always think. People just repeat the same thing over and over and then they think they said their 2 cents. And the comment section is only full with the same thing over and over.
It's "fine" sure but you can get way better for 50 grand
Wait this thing is 45 GRAND?
You can get one a few years older for less than half that amount, and even then I wouldn't get it
@@mog0712 yea I wouldn’t either
Nissan should cut CVTs and the Infiniti brand and just build better cars. The Infiniti Q50 should have been the Maxima and give this nice body style to the Altima.
As tested this car is the same price as a CPO 2021 Audi S4. Granted it’s new vs used, but I don’t understand who’s paying $45k for this car
lol valid point but I know of a few dealers that still have 2023 new for $7k off… I had a 2017 maxima SL which was almost exactly the same as this, and I only paid $20k when I bought it in 2019 (even tho it was $38k new) not a bad car and it did most things well. Sound system was truly incredible like sub tophr said. Honestly better than like a WRX CVT or integra CVT in my opinion even tho I’m not a Nissan fanboy at all. If I could do it again I deff would’ve taken the risk and paid more money for like a s4 or bmw 340i (2016-2017ish) and enjoyed those low responsibility years a lot more lol.
For that it’s more reasonable and I get people who don’t know or don’t care and just want a decent sedan which this is for 99% of people. But you know someone got taken for a ride in the finance office on these lol
This would be such a great car and competitive option in its class if it weren’t hooked up to a CVT. Just disappointing and kills the overall driving experience.
maybe if they spent the money on a proper automatic box (or manual even) instead of the silly advertisements they make for these, people would buy them
The sound of that engine with a CVT makes me vomit.
You could say get a Camry over this but this is clearly more quality than it, I’ve had several people say the Camry last for ever but is incredibly cheaply built
So much for the break-in period 😢
IMO, given the long history of this car, Nissan should've just done a complete redesign and kept the name. It looks way too similar to the Altima and probably cannibalized the sells. Maybe turn it into a compact sports car to compete with the Civic, Elantra, and GR86. Or maybe branch out a sister company that focuses on luxury like what Hyundai did with the Genesis
I do agree that they should have kept the Maxima however, we have had an Altima for 4 years now and they definitely look different. Place two side by side. There are so many styling differences.
2023? They're still available on lots lol
Having Nissan calling this a sport sedan with a cvt is a joke
The Maxima used to be quite a bit bigger than the Altima. Then they kept making the Altima bigger and ruined the Maxima
Could be such good car but cvt killed it wtf
Ah this is perfect for the people that like to go 150mph in the left lane on the freeway