This is a very moving portrayal of a remarkable man. I have a link to him through my great-aunt who once told me that, as a girl, she was taken by her parents to a concert in their home city of St.Petersburg. Tchaikovsky was the conductor. It is quite possible that she had remembered correctly because she was born in 1880.
Prof David Brown. Bless him, personally responsible, way back in the 70's', as one of my University Lecturers, for turning me onto Russian Music, in general and Tchaikovsky, in particular! 🎶🎹
I would like to make a comment about the way the documentary analyzes the severe critics received by Tchaikovsky in the beginning of his career. There is a detail in human nature not mentioned in the documentary, which the possibility of someone being victim of destructive envy from competitors. Russia in Tchaikovsky youth was far from the center of European musical environment and composers were few and depended on public jobs and acquaintances with the nobility. After listening to the outstanding Romeo and Juliet suite many of them must have got astonished with a demonstration of talent of that caliper. I can only think of this as the explanation of those fierce critics. This was true at that time, as it is true today in many fields of activity.
The competition between the Moscow and the St. Petersburg schools of music was fierce and vocal. Pyotr wore his heart on his sleeve and in his music, and you can understand why he had so many envious critics. Thank God his manuscripts survive. It's left to us to continue our deep connection with him, and when people choose to listen, it always shall. always be his gift to us. To me his music demonstrates how the individual and personal speaks the universal language of the soul.
I rhink the moar glaring incident of this was Anton Rubinstein's rejection of "The Storm" while Tchaikovsky was still Rubinstein's stidemt- Anton Rubinstein recognized at first glance that Tchaikovsky's genius would eclipse his own, and tried to suffocate it in the bud. The greatess of "The Storm" remains unacknowledged to this day.
I cannot help feeling that the Sixth Symphony carries a very personal message from Tchaikovsky about the nature of love - especially the love that dare not speak its name. The composer lays bare his soul. He may talk the symphony in general terms but it is impossible to ignore the personal experience of forbidden love which the composer felt himself.
Thank you for this excellent honest work about a tragic tormented genius. He and his music make our lives worth living. Today he could have lived on in peace happiness I hope. Вы живете своей музыкой, Потр Илич Чайковский.
His death is a very disturbing mystery, makes me sleepless. Either or not, he truly has left a great Legacy. I think he was satisfied of his last masterpiece ( Symph.6)
I know that the Court of Honour has since been discredited (however extravagantly proposed!) but I do believe that Tchaikovsky died by his own hand and that the 6th Symphony is his anguished farewell to the world. Only his brother, Modest, says that the composer was full of plans for the future. There are no surviving sketches for new works. The only plans he made were conducting tours of Europe which he had done many times before. I repeat, there are NO plans for new works in his diaries or at his final home in Klin. Cholera was a cover-up, I'm sure of that. He died with his secrets intact, thankfully for his family, as was his intention. But what a remarkable talent we lost at such a relatively young age - the greatest, in my opinion, of the second half of the nineteenth century.
The truth is that nobody knows the truth, Spiros. What I offer above is my personal opinion, based on 50 years of research into the life and music of Tchaikovsky. All good wishes from England.
Michael Paul Smith He was working on a symphony in E-flat major, left unfinished at his death. It is a very upbeat, buoyant work, full of positive energy and verve.
Michael Paul Smith He was working on a cello concerto, a flute concerto... he wasn’t suicidal AT ALL in the year 1893. He was confident about the future. His Sixth Symphony isn’t a farewell work. It’s about love, passion, desire and despair, because it’s about an impossible love.
When Tchaikovsky was composing the Sixth Symphony, did he have at the back of his mind the final act of his life which his peers had planned for him? No-one suffering from cholera would have been able to compose this monumental work.
Tchaikovsky is one of my three favourite composers (the other two being Miklos Rozsa and Giuseppe Verdi). From the 2nd episode of this documentary, it has apparently been established that Tchaikovsky died of poison, and not cholera, brought about by drinking unboiled water.
This is as axcellent, highly empathetic presentation of Tchaikovsky's life and works - esepcially in the musical examples in Ashkenazi's wonderful interpretations, and much of the camera work. I regret very much that it concludes with the unproven „Court of Honor“ theory. If my memory serves me right, David Brown repudiates this theory in his books. I agree with Klaus Mann in his novel „Pathetic Symphony“ (German 1935, English 1948) that the Symphony No. 6 is, apart from being an incredibly innovative, epoch-making musical masterpiece, also a titanic suicide letter and was conceived as such from the first bars of the first movement onwards! My countertheory to the „Court of Honor“ is that the doctors attending Tchaikovsky were doctors of the upper classes and knew cholera only as a disease of improverished people, and thus they blindly dehydrated Tchaikovsky, which was exactly the WRONG way to treat cholera - accordingly, the direct cause of Tchaikovsky's death was kidney failure Then they tried to cover up their idiotic mistake by inventng the „Court of Honor“ theory!
a wonderful man and artist--yes, he was tortured in some ways--but it was hard being gay at that time....he composed every day--that's why we have so much music....he used work to chase away the blues I imagine.
56:36... "...and, his masterpiece-" ......no. No. NOOOOO....ALL OF HIS WORK IS A ....MASTERPIECE...it's just dull witted to try to say one comp over another.
Recently, more letters, written by Tchaikovsky, have been discovered, confirming his homosexuality and anguish he felt because of having to hide his true identity. His brother, Modeste, does not seem to have had such qualms over his own homosexuality. I personally am inclined to believe that he did commit suicide at the behest of his peers in order to prevent the disclosure of a scandal, involving Tchaikovsky and a young cadet. Of course, such a version of events may be inconvenient for those who would wish to see Tchaikovsky in their own image rather than as he really was - a genius but also a man who was attracted to men, younger than himself, at a time when homosexuality brought shame and worse.
Bill - yes, he was gay. But NO, there was NO "secret jury" which compelled him to take poison. That rumor - a completely unsubstantiated one: has been revealed as totally false. He died of cholera which was ravaging St. Petersburg at the time. The onset of cholera is rapid - and he had to have become infected after the Pathetique's premiere. But Tchaikovsky was in very optimistic spirits - and his day-to-day activities have been fastidiously documented; he was planning well into the months and even years ahead. Homosexuality was by no means any sort of "crime" which would be impetus for him to kill himself; likewise - he was a royalist close to members of the Tsar's dynasty and the Tsar himself was a fan of Tchaikovsky. I've commented here before, but unfortunately it appears the truth is of no interest to those who hosted this documentary and when I've posted information and sources: my responses are removed. Sad to say.
40/15 video time / X refers is some way to anguish over his homosexuality and the idea of religious faith as road to spiritual solace had appealed to him before/ now however he does imply some confidence in ultimate clemency/41/15 in manuscript score he wrote above horn theme oh que je t aime oh mon ami
There is no "accusations in homosexuality" but the really well definitive and documented truth that he was. What do you think ? That "sensitive" men are systematically heterosexual ? Don't be so silly...
This is a very moving portrayal of a remarkable man. I have a link to him through my great-aunt who once told me that, as a girl, she was taken by her parents to a concert in their home city of St.Petersburg. Tchaikovsky was the conductor. It is quite possible that she had remembered correctly because she was born in 1880.
How Cool is that! X🌻🐝🦋
My goodness what a story!!! If you have any more details on your great-aunt’s story that would be so cool.
The last movement of the 6th is just heartbreaking. Wonderful music!
Thank you!
@@pyotrtchaikovsky3242 they want to ban you now Pyotr
Prof David Brown. Bless him, personally responsible, way back in the 70's', as one of my University Lecturers, for turning me onto Russian Music, in general and Tchaikovsky, in particular! 🎶🎹
A genius. His music, touches the very soul.
Thank you putting this invaluable documentary on YT.
Can’t imagine life without Tchaikovsky’s music. It’s like food and drink for the soul.
What a masterpiece this is. WoW. Excellent, particularly the sound quality.
Such a brilliantly made film! It helps me more to understand personality and music of one of my favorite classical composers
Thank you @ChristopherNupen for your great Tchaikofsky films that have given me a lot of important information, but also watery eyes. 🌷🌷🌷(Holland)
I thoroughly enjoyed this superb documentary.
If ever there was a composer who put the very depths of his Soul into the music, it was Pyotr Tchaikovsky. Another....Jean Sibelius.
Misty Groves really true
Shostakovich?
I would like to make a comment about the way the documentary analyzes the severe critics received by Tchaikovsky in the beginning of his career. There is a detail in human nature not mentioned in the documentary, which the possibility of someone being victim of destructive envy from competitors. Russia in Tchaikovsky youth was far from the center of European musical environment and composers were few and depended on public jobs and acquaintances with the nobility. After listening to the outstanding Romeo and Juliet suite many of them must have got astonished with a demonstration of talent of that caliper. I can only think of this as the explanation of those fierce critics. This was true at that time, as it is true today in many fields of activity.
Facts!
The competition between the Moscow and the St. Petersburg schools of music was fierce and vocal. Pyotr wore his heart on his sleeve and in his music, and you can understand why he had so many envious critics. Thank God his manuscripts survive. It's left to us to continue our deep connection with him, and when people choose to listen, it always shall. always be his gift to us. To me his music demonstrates how the individual and personal speaks the universal language of the soul.
I rhink the moar glaring incident of this was Anton Rubinstein's rejection of "The Storm" while Tchaikovsky was still Rubinstein's stidemt- Anton Rubinstein recognized at first glance that Tchaikovsky's genius would eclipse his own, and tried to suffocate it in the bud. The greatess of "The Storm" remains unacknowledged to this day.
I cannot help feeling that the Sixth Symphony carries a very personal message from Tchaikovsky about the nature of love - especially the love that dare not speak its name. The composer lays bare his soul. He may talk the symphony in general terms but it is impossible to ignore the personal experience of forbidden love which the composer felt himself.
Beautiful and tragic. Thank you.
Thank you for this excellent honest work about a tragic tormented genius. He and his music make our lives worth living. Today he could have lived on in peace happiness I hope. Вы живете своей музыкой, Потр Илич Чайковский.
i wouldn't be so sure about that
Only 53 at the time of his suicide. He had so much more creativity left.
It’s heartbreaking. His father lived to his mid 80s. He had it in him to have a long life.
His death is a very disturbing mystery, makes me sleepless. Either or not, he truly has left a great Legacy. I think he was satisfied of his last masterpiece ( Symph.6)
Very, very good!!! Amazing!!!!
Wonderful!
I know that the Court of Honour has since been discredited (however extravagantly proposed!) but I do believe that Tchaikovsky died by his own hand and that the 6th Symphony is his anguished farewell to the world. Only his brother, Modest, says that the composer was full of plans for the future. There are no surviving sketches for new works. The only plans he made were conducting tours of Europe which he had done many times before. I repeat, there are NO plans for new works in his diaries or at his final home in Klin. Cholera was a cover-up, I'm sure of that. He died with his secrets intact, thankfully for his family, as was his intention. But what a remarkable talent we lost at such a relatively young age - the greatest, in my opinion, of the second half of the nineteenth century.
MPS: Have you heard of a similar death of a more recent talent/genius: Alan Turing (1912-54)? :)
The truth is that nobody knows the truth, Spiros. What I offer above is my personal opinion, based on 50 years of research into the life and music of Tchaikovsky. All good wishes from England.
Michael Paul Smith He was working on a symphony in E-flat major, left unfinished at his death. It is a very upbeat, buoyant work, full of positive energy and verve.
Alan Turin, father of the modern computer and probably won WWll for England
Michael Paul Smith He was working on a cello concerto, a flute concerto... he wasn’t suicidal AT ALL in the year 1893. He was confident about the future. His Sixth Symphony isn’t a farewell work. It’s about love, passion, desire and despair, because it’s about an impossible love.
When Tchaikovsky was composing the Sixth Symphony, did he have at the back of his mind the final act of his life which his peers had planned for him? No-one suffering from cholera would have been able to compose this monumental work.
Dedicated to Jacqueline Du Pré, who died from MS October 1987.
Thankfully for your comment!! Please can you pm me, I am Olga Bobrovnikova, pianist, also have MS. I am fully in Tchaikovsky's works and life
INDUDABLEMENTE COMO APUNTO EL COMENTARISTA,FUE SU REQUIEM.,
,MARAVILLOSA SINFONIA,,
Tchaikovsky is one of my three favourite composers (the other two being Miklos Rozsa and Giuseppe Verdi). From the 2nd episode of this documentary, it has apparently been established that Tchaikovsky died of poison, and not cholera, brought about by drinking unboiled water.
I disagree most vehemently with the "Court of Honor" speculation -- see above!
This is as axcellent, highly empathetic presentation of Tchaikovsky's life and works - esepcially in the musical examples in Ashkenazi's wonderful interpretations, and much of the camera work. I regret very much that it concludes with the unproven „Court of Honor“ theory. If my memory serves me right, David Brown repudiates this theory in his books. I agree with Klaus Mann in his novel „Pathetic Symphony“ (German 1935, English 1948) that the Symphony No. 6 is, apart from being an incredibly innovative, epoch-making musical masterpiece, also a titanic suicide letter and was conceived as such from the first bars of the first movement onwards! My countertheory to the „Court of Honor“ is that the doctors attending Tchaikovsky were doctors of the upper classes and knew cholera only as a disease of improverished people, and thus they blindly dehydrated Tchaikovsky, which was exactly the WRONG way to treat cholera - accordingly, the direct cause of Tchaikovsky's death was kidney failure Then they tried to cover up their idiotic mistake by inventng the „Court of Honor“ theory!
why no mention of the nutcracker suite?
a wonderful man and artist--yes, he was tortured in some ways--but it was hard being gay at that time....he composed every day--that's why we have so much music....he used work to chase away the blues I imagine.
is still hard to be gay in Russia. very sad
He seems to have been a very noble minded man.
Guys, relax! There is no real proof or disaproof he was a gay
TERRA КОРЕЯ No real proof?!? A ton of letters prove it 😂 and his diary...
@@PADARM It's hard to be in Russia gay or not.
The man, s agony comes from the depth from himself
brilliant
yes well done indeed!
BTW Rimsky- Korsakov caused Tchaikovsky heart ache when he composed the opera Snowmaiden which Tchaikovsky had his eyes on.
This is disturbing to hear. I would have much preferred Tchaikovsky to have done it. What a loss.
truly excellent. however, the idea of this court convened by so-called friends is only one theory concerning his death.
Please, enable the subtitles. 🙏🙏Tks 🙏🎼🎻
56:36... "...and, his masterpiece-" ......no. No. NOOOOO....ALL OF HIS WORK IS A ....MASTERPIECE...it's just dull witted to try to say one comp over another.
Recently, more letters, written by Tchaikovsky, have been discovered, confirming his homosexuality and anguish he felt because of having to hide his true identity. His brother, Modeste, does not seem to have had such qualms over his own homosexuality. I personally am inclined to believe that he did commit suicide at the behest of his peers in order to prevent the disclosure of a scandal, involving Tchaikovsky and a young cadet. Of course, such a version of events may be inconvenient for those who would wish to see Tchaikovsky in their own image rather than as he really was - a genius but also a man who was attracted to men, younger than himself, at a time when homosexuality brought shame and worse.
Bill - yes, he was gay. But NO, there was NO "secret jury" which compelled him to take poison. That rumor - a completely unsubstantiated one: has been revealed as totally false. He died of cholera which was ravaging St. Petersburg at the time. The onset of cholera is rapid - and he had to have become infected after the Pathetique's premiere. But Tchaikovsky was in very optimistic spirits - and his day-to-day activities have been fastidiously documented; he was planning well into the months and even years ahead. Homosexuality was by no means any sort of "crime" which would be impetus for him to kill himself; likewise - he was a royalist close to members of the Tsar's dynasty and the Tsar himself was a fan of Tchaikovsky. I've commented here before, but unfortunately it appears the truth is of no interest to those who hosted this documentary and when I've posted information and sources: my responses are removed. Sad to say.
The theory of his arsenic poisoning is not at all proven. - What a life, torn within!
I've also read that it was from cholera. It's a bit annoying this documentary takes the court of honour thing as certain truth
Reinhard Jung It’s still more credible than the cholera version 🤷♂️
G'day, Allegro Films! Which orchestra is featured in this film?
Question ...why did his benefactor make up that she was bankrupt-?
What’s the last piano piece called?
what is the first song?
Please upload "The Trout Remembered"
Left scars in his poor wife too, I'd venture.
She ended her life in a loony bin, claiming that Piotr had made her three children. Nutcase.
WHY DID YOU NEVER MENTION THE NUTCRACKER?OTHERWISE WELL DONE
Yeah really....wasn't it....good enough, art.snob. 😂
0:11 what song?
What’s the piano music called at the end credits? 1:23:40
Please, enable english subtitles, please. 😢
excellent , but the man at 1:11: 14 is not the composer
Does not look like him, in fact!
Peter Lunow It’s him 😛
Where's part one of this movie?
Here it is: th-cam.com/video/Sa9NArmuHTg/w-d-xo.html
What piece is it a 5:32 I love it but can't find it
Fourth Symphony
Thank you Pink Panta93!
Needs subtitles for the hard of hearing.
What is the piece in 50:13?
His romance named "Отчего"
Where's part 1?
I hate the sixth symphony.he would also, by now! 😂....i loved you peter ❤️...
May he be forgiven by God and rest in His heaven amen ❤️
40/15 video time / X refers is some way to anguish over his homosexuality and the idea of religious faith as road to spiritual solace had appealed to him before/ now however he does imply some confidence in ultimate clemency/41/15 in manuscript score he wrote above horn theme oh que je t aime oh mon ami
The glorious homosexual man👍
Hey.
You're mighty! You composed such indescribable pieces and thanks
Hi Pyotr 👋 love ❤ your work.
@32:32
Why are geniuses always insane
51 20
he was a sensitive man; but I hate all this accusations in homosexuality... it do not seem to be a case
Case or not it's irrelevant, Tchaikovsky's legacy is his music, nothing else is of any concern or importance.
There is no "accusations in homosexuality" but the really well definitive and documented truth that he was. What do you think ? That "sensitive" men are systematically heterosexual ? Don't be so silly...
Siberian Flower There is no accusations since he WAS homosexual 🤦♂️ seriously... and people like you claim to love Tchaikovsky 🙄
There is no doubt about it that he was homosexual