As a stage 3 cancer survivor, watching your videos has motivated me to restore my 84’ mustang with 35,816 miles on it. Thanks for the videos and motivation! Let’s go!
There was a recent video by the Car Wizard that touched on module issues with Dodge and complaints being filed with the department of transportation. As he explained that Dodge does not allow used modules to be reassigned to a new VIN and unfortunately, Dodge is having backorder issues on various modules.
David is 100percent on the right track. i’m a mopar mechanic and i find myself circling back with modules during updates and recalls all the time. There seems to always be a specific way to rewrite modules. and every mopar car is different it’s absurd
You're gunna want to start with the RF HUB and write the correct VIN into that man, ive had to do practically the same thing youre trying to do with a scatpack that got stolen and brought to the dealership i work at, it is annoying and time consuming, you have to write each VIN into each module practically one by one
Lee … your uploads from both channels are rapidly becoming some of my favorite to see the notification icon over. Awesome builds; great attitudes and commentary from everyone. I can’t imagine how much it must suck to edit one of these but I’m thankful for it.
Some car modules use modbus to communicate, modbus is great but has its issues, mainly if you change anything at all, unplug, plug back in etc you need to power down everything for it to reset the communications.
Love the color choice on this MOPAR, been watching all the builds since the start of the main channel. Keep up the great work! Porsche and MOPAR for the win!
Dodge has a flash for every challenger and charger when the get the pdi done and it flashes a program on it that completely bricks every module if it gets stolen and prevents the modules getting programmed. One of the guys had to fix some at a dealer I worked for and had to replace everything that had the vin programmed into it. There should be info on what to do in the dealer connect software on it all.
Bro you need me! 25 years in the computer game. That error looks like the command actually being sent has something wrong with the data. Too many chars , spaces , illegal chars etc. gotta see what the app is doing to build the command and what it sends to the ECu. May be able to hijack that and modify. The other issue I can think of is some of those modules aren’t writable, must be a flag or another setting that sets read only. Ping me.
My favorite channel. I often dive into car projects and these guys help me through the tough times. I think it’s the necessary patience required to complete a build. When things go wrong they don’t stress they just blame Fernando. lol keep up the good work. You will get that demon up and running I’m sure before I finish my 550i.
some of the "memory" in the car for like milage and clock are effected by letting the car die. could try updating the car with the 2020 and then disconnecting the battery because it thinks the 2018 is saved to it's on board and idk how to flip the key on off 5 times and push the start button twice resets that particular function.
1:12 Steering rack control module. Why the F does a car need a control module for the steering rack? And what happens when the module for your steering glitches out? My dad always used to say, "That's just more shit that'll break" and more and more, I see his wisdom.
Some modules are grounded through the module housings so for good measure I Would make sure you have a good ground for the modules unless they have a plastic body and be careful if you are doing any welding on the car. Make sure your twisted comm lines are away from any electrical “noise” and not touching ground so they can communicate properly with SGW module and the rest of the network and make sure the star connector is good if it has one and not burnt up.
That trackhawk I want to see. But with all these modules and computers and comms is why I love my 65 ford truck. The only wiring hassle is the stereo system I put in.
I wish you guys the best of luck getting this Demon 170 up and running. That's what sucks with modern day cars.....all the computer programming that it takes to operate.
@@crazyo388he’s only uploading the videos once tho? How would he be getting triple the ad revenue. It would be the same thing as if he only had one channel and uploaded every video there. He does this to show quick update videos on projects that would take much longer, this one being an example
I get what you are saying one account 3 vids 3 diff ads rev but take in you upload one video per account between scappedlifelee scrapedlifelee scaplifefernando leec and the others multiple vids in multiple accounts on the same day more ad rev
i had a issue like that i have a bunch of the older srt8s and since i have a few i borrowed a pcm from one to another and well that vin over wrote over the orginal on a few modules important one being the BCM so when you see orginal and current there diffrent i assume this is so people cant swap the pcm to steal a car but once you have a mixed matched vin you have to get them all back align pcm and tipm bcm being the important ones
I work at an independent shop with all the dealer level equipment. This is the type of stuff we specialize in.. the fixing of stuff no one else can handle.. this video gives me ptsd 😅
i remember something about a vin number problems with the 170s where vins were set wrong from the factory maybe your car is one of them. think the guy you raced with was involved with it. his racecar name was somethinng like soul stealer or some shit. call him he might help
Looooong shot. I wonder if swapping the vin had anything to do with starting it? I wonder if the vin decrypts the rolling code and then allows the car to start? So, they had a code to that vin but needed to swap that car to their vin?
Are there any D170 specific modules in this car? If not wouldn’t be easier to transplant an entirely matching harness out of a donor vehicle and program that? Also probably not the case but maybe vin swapped modules were bench programmed by directly accessing the soc/eeprom?
I’m wondering if it’s the engine ECU. Like the scrap monkey that was cutting it up , cut the car up while it had a battery connected to it with the ignition on listening to the radio.
@@ScrappedLifeLee it does matter which star port you plug the bypass cable into, look up which port should be used for the year make model, some get plugged behind gauge cluster.
Try using an automatic tcm, did you program the tcm or use a spare. When writing a vin, it says out of parameter which could be Alfa obd saying this type of car doesn’t exist. Not sure just a thought
The best way to do is get a brand new PCM and with a snap on computer, write the I had the same exact issue, and I worked at the dealership what happened is your stock? PCM has two vins
That’s what they’re doing. They’re flashing the cars to program them to steal them to work with the keys. Like you need a dealer technician with dealer software to rewrite all the modules
As a stage 3 cancer survivor, watching your videos has motivated me to restore my 84’ mustang with 35,816 miles on it. Thanks for the videos and motivation! Let’s go!
Man that’s awesome, best of luck on the build!
Always motivating until I look at my bank account then all of that motivation goes away
God bless sir . I've very happy you beat cancer . Thats the one word I hate more than anyother . Cancer has taken so much from me and my family
@@THEBRAINANAYTORmake it motivation to get that bank account up then
@ you’re telling me. I’ve been trying to
Not to worry, the thieves will reach out to you shortly and tell you how to fix the issues. Seriously
probably
or with the modules they took home miraculously before the cops got there for said extortion.
Was thinking the whole videos: how the hell did those guys flash the car so easy and they cant do it. What software do these guys use
Obviously something better than Mopar has@@Chris-hw4mq
They'd have it running before I grabbed my laptop off the charger
Mike Starck is one of the best in the Mopar community! I have faith he'll get it running!
There was a recent video by the Car Wizard that touched on module issues with Dodge and complaints being filed with the department of transportation. As he explained that Dodge does not allow used modules to be reassigned to a new VIN and unfortunately, Dodge is having backorder issues on various modules.
yea pcm and bcm and tipm they dont want to re write and some cant im surprised there are people buy thoes on ebay
David is 100percent on the right track. i’m a mopar mechanic and i find myself circling back with modules during updates and recalls all the time. There seems to always be a specific way to rewrite modules. and every mopar car is different it’s absurd
And the thieves 100 percent rewrote the vin attempting to start it. Nothing screams louder than that.
could i ask you a question about uconnect
You're gunna want to start with the RF HUB and write the correct VIN into that man, ive had to do practically the same thing youre trying to do with a scatpack that got stolen and brought to the dealership i work at, it is annoying and time consuming, you have to write each VIN into each module practically one by one
The chop shops make it look so easy lol. Hope you get it running soon!
Thanks!
Lee … your uploads from both channels are rapidly becoming some of my favorite to see the notification icon over. Awesome builds; great attitudes and commentary from everyone. I can’t imagine how much it must suck to edit one of these but I’m thankful for it.
Watching all these electrical and VIN issues makes me love my 90s JDM so much more. Still a dope build!
yeah, working on new cars sometimes makes you feel more like a hackerman than a mechanic
Yea because 90’s JDM cars are immune to electrical issues. 🤣
🍪?
Facts my old spoon p30 ecu had no issues plugging in
@@PennyTrayshun-u8upaper clip to check codes lol
so glad to see this 170 back in a video, this color is too perfect to stay sitting in the shop 🔥🔥
Yes module programming can be extremely hard ...all modern day ..even dealerships struggle and have to give it to head tech which u wait for
That color is everything perfect choice
Some car modules use modbus to communicate, modbus is great but has its issues, mainly if you change anything at all, unplug, plug back in etc you need to power down everything for it to reset the communications.
Although I am not capable of even changing a Spark plug I am completely captivated by your videos, your professionalism and expertise are commendable.
Love the color choice on this MOPAR, been watching all the builds since the start of the main channel. Keep up the great work! Porsche and MOPAR for the win!
Dodge has a flash for every challenger and charger when the get the pdi done and it flashes a program on it that completely bricks every module if it gets stolen and prevents the modules getting programmed. One of the guys had to fix some at a dealer I worked for and had to replace everything that had the vin programmed into it. There should be info on what to do in the dealer connect software on it all.
The thieves actually contacted you remember? Hit em up and ask em what they did lol
Bro you need me! 25 years in the computer game. That error looks like the command actually being sent has something wrong with the data. Too many chars , spaces , illegal chars etc. gotta see what the app is doing to build the command and what it sends to the ECu. May be able to hijack that and modify. The other issue I can think of is some of those modules aren’t writable, must be a flag or another setting that sets read only. Ping me.
yes a bunch of the models are write only from blank. and if you try and swap a pcm it will write that vin in this car causeing the issue they have
“You need me” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
My favorite channel. I often dive into car projects and these guys help me through the tough times. I think it’s the necessary patience required to complete a build. When things go wrong they don’t stress they just blame Fernando. lol keep up the good work. You will get that demon up and running I’m sure before I finish my 550i.
some of the "memory" in the car for like milage and clock are effected by letting the car die. could try updating the car with the 2020 and then disconnecting the battery because it thinks the 2018 is saved to it's on board and idk how to flip the key on off 5 times and push the start button twice resets that particular function.
1:12 Steering rack control module. Why the F does a car need a control module for the steering rack? And what happens when the module for your steering glitches out?
My dad always used to say, "That's just more shit that'll break" and more and more, I see his wisdom.
That's my boy mike he's a legend when it comes to the mopars and his brother they got a beast of a challenger
Some modules are grounded through the module housings so for good measure I Would make sure you have a good ground for the modules unless they have a plastic body and be careful if you are doing any welding on the car.
Make sure your twisted comm lines are away from any electrical “noise” and not touching ground so they can communicate properly with SGW module and the rest of the network and make sure the star connector is good if it has one and not burnt up.
Congratulations on the quick turn around and results so far. You rebuilt an entire car in months instead of years.
This man is so entertaining
That trackhawk I want to see. But with all these modules and computers and comms is why I love my 65 ford truck. The only wiring hassle is the stereo system I put in.
Good on ya Starcks for you all your time you have put into this keep up the good work
Ready for some snow!!!! Let’s gooo
4:06 SUPRA ALERT !
Love the Supra in the background.
You have to use a bypass to get around the SGW when using alfa.
But you need to start with the correct RF hub and BCM.
Wishing the best of luck w this module nightmare……want to see the Pepto 170 hit the streets!
CAN/BUS communication issue may require a Pico Scope to watch what is happening.
That color is so good!!! And yeah...how many channels do you have bro...?
I wish you guys the best of luck getting this Demon 170 up and running. That's what sucks with modern day cars.....all the computer programming that it takes to operate.
Bro has so many channels its confusing
Triple the ad money baby how u think he gets all this shh
@@crazyo388he’s only uploading the videos once tho? How would he be getting triple the ad revenue. It would be the same thing as if he only had one channel and uploaded every video there. He does this to show quick update videos on projects that would take much longer, this one being an example
I get what you are saying one account 3 vids 3 diff ads rev but take in you upload one video per account between scappedlifelee scrapedlifelee scaplifefernando leec and the others multiple vids in multiple accounts on the same day more ad rev
But now seeing his upload schedule I see what you mean about he only uploads once all i was saying seems smart to have multiple ad rev that's all
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I’m a Chrysler Tech and we get these all the time. Every module with the incorrect VIN has to be replaced.
Thank you for updating us with the Pink lady
i had a issue like that i have a bunch of the older srt8s and since i have a few i borrowed a pcm from one to another and well that vin over wrote over the orginal on a few modules important one being the BCM so when you see orginal and current there diffrent i assume this is so people cant swap the pcm to steal a car but once you have a mixed matched vin you have to get them all back align pcm and tipm bcm being the important ones
You got Kevin James to program your car!?! Nice!
I work at an independent shop with all the dealer level equipment. This is the type of stuff we specialize in.. the fixing of stuff no one else can handle.. this video gives me ptsd 😅
Keep at it
Love ya videos mate
i remember something about a vin number problems with the 170s where vins were set wrong from the factory maybe your car is one of them. think the guy you raced with was involved with it. his racecar name was somethinng like soul stealer or some shit. call him he might help
Looooong shot. I wonder if swapping the vin had anything to do with starting it? I wonder if the vin decrypts the rolling code and then allows the car to start? So, they had a code to that vin but needed to swap that car to their vin?
Do you have a security gateway, bypass module?
The car wizard channel had a video the other day about how hard it is to get parts for the Hemi motors.
The ole Mopar tax lives on to day 😅
wow never have been this early. Love the vids!
Best of luck , it's a beautiful car
there was a demon 170 that was flooded out with a non repairable a while back you could’ve seen if it worked. the water line wasn’t really high either
Los Santos customs makes it look so easy 🤧
So do you think the issue has to do with the speed cluster. It’s programmed to a certain vin #
best build yet...it just loos soo good
Are there any D170 specific modules in this car? If not wouldn’t be easier to transplant an entirely matching harness out of a donor vehicle and program that? Also probably not the case but maybe vin swapped modules were bench programmed by directly accessing the soc/eeprom?
That paint is sick!
chevy uses star communication as well for CAN networks they been doin it since like 2021-2022
MOAR!!!
Need the security bypass cable from HP Tuners or the Zauto double bypass cable for 2018+ challenger/charger.
We’ve got em in!
6:04 is that a Toyota supra I see in the background 😮
That’s a different one
You can see it under the tarp above the demon
And it also doesn’t have the wing
stupid question, but why wouldn't you run a race style ignition panel?
I live on Kent island and saw it on the trailer the other day. Felt like I saw a celebrity lol
I’m wondering if it’s the engine ECU. Like the scrap monkey that was cutting it up , cut the car up while it had a battery connected to it with the ignition on listening to the radio.
That car is awesome !
3:51 The front of this looks so mean, I love the color too
Good luck Lee, I'm pullin' for you
Are all the modules aligned with each other in witech? Have you tried to proxi align them.
I am really excited for that black supra in the back. I am restoring mine right now too but it's probably worse than yours.
coming soon to a screen near you!
WOW😱NIGHTMARE🙁STUNNING PAINT👍💪GREAT VIEWING AND WORK👍💪
You need a security bypass cable for everything after 2018
We’ve got that in!
@@ScrappedLifeLee it does matter which star port you plug the bypass cable into, look up which port should be used for the year make model, some get plugged behind gauge cluster.
Let's get this man to 100k! Sub!!
ive been here since the car was blue, i cant wait for it to drive!
Don't worry install a fueltech or a motec
Try using an automatic tcm, did you program the tcm or use a spare. When writing a vin, it says out of parameter which could be Alfa obd saying this type of car doesn’t exist. Not sure just a thought
Or you can try programming a different car the exact same way as the d170, backing up the modules and program the 170 with the backup
that color is sick
Could it be dodge use the same modules from the 2018 demon for the 170 and only changed the dash module to display the 170 features
The best way to do is get a brand new PCM and with a snap on computer, write the I had the same exact issue, and I worked at the dealership what happened is your stock? PCM has two vins
Hope you sort it out sooner than later
You and me both
Try swapping all the wires an wire harnesses with the trackhawks or possibly the 2018 demon..
Hope they get it figured out for you 🤙
Sounds like you need to get a set of modules that actually communicate with each other.
Remember when cars did not require a module for everything?
Pepperidge farm remembers
Wranglers have that same canbus issue too
Have u checked the abs pump. Vin might be locked on that
change the key pcm and the rfb hub in the back window
Gotta do the C10 build 🤝🙏
Your doing great by the way
Love the videos man, do you guys sell any of the hellcat parts? Would love to buy 2 good headlights
they sell parts on their webside leec parts
Where the shop at?? I’m on my way from Tennessee 😂😂
Hey it could be a vin matched demon look it up
I see the supra back there.
That’s what they’re doing. They’re flashing the cars to program them to steal them to work with the keys.
Like you need a dealer technician with dealer software to rewrite all the modules
Can you stop resting things on the paint 😂 from the laptop to the modules, you’re driving me nuts 😂
I bet if you just drive into atlanta, you'll find someone that can make it start the way it is
Man oh man what a headache…Im sure somehow you’ll get it sorted out and it will be worth the hair pulling out
Lee, Bro you giving off Dundalk vibes 😂
Well….
JK, I enjoy the content. Keep it up.
I love the colour
Get a hold of the jail where the thieves are currently residing and ask if you can borrow them for a few hours! LOL
Had the same issue with mine and hired someone and fixed.
i was about to instant transmission myself to your shop
Okay I like it 😂😂😂😂