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I really want to see the fallout of Punisher disappearance. For example all the unmarked weapons out on the street in the hands of killers and criminals, the fact Maria was also stupid enough to give to charity in their children’s names as if nobody would ask questions. The fact that the Hand is still at large and recruiting another fist of the Beast. Also maybe Frank will come back from weird world under a new identity. He won’t kill put maim, cripple and paralyze, especially with mercy bullets that can break bones. Not to mention for a supposedly unreachable dimension Roxxon had portals to it and Dr Strange students were able to teleport there. If Marvel doesn’t follow up they are really lazy hacks. Also Maria for all her living her life it will be in hiding and I really don’t think the Avengers will look after her.
Cpt. Frank Castle went out in the MAX series in my eyes. Killing Kingpin and Castle dragging himself back to his old home and dying by his house. RIP and Semper Fi Frank.
Also written by this hack. Max ended when Garth Ennis stopped being the lead writer.
At least Frank was alive to continue being Punisher and he had a secret kid too. Happy ending unlike this 2023 garbage.
Believe it or not same writer. What a difference a few years make.
@@Gruntvc i like to believe the same writer was held at gunpoint by Marvel/Disney to end the punisher. I think i read that Garth is also writting another MAX series with the continuation of the Platoon saga with Frank.
@@cheeseburger12 Jason Aaron USE to be a really excellent writer prior to all the modern day political crap. The last great thing he wrote was 2015's Weird World mini-series. (part of the 2015 Secret Wars event). That was excellent. After that, 2016 hits and modern day politics pretty much smash into all of Marvel comics in the worst possible way. As far as I'm concerned, Marvel comics ended with 2015's third Secret Wars event.
@@johnpenguinthe3rd13 There were signs of this in Aaron's previous run. Didn't he have Bullseye tell Frank he let his family die after "getting into his mind" or some such bullcrap.
They resurrected his wife? And her reaction to returning to life and finding out her kids where dead and her husband went of the deep end being the only survivor was, "Yeah I took your money."?
I've said this is many videos. They did this in the most cruelest way possible. It wasn't stupid; since it was planned. Just out in out cruel. Plus, there is a flaw in this "story" and that is, how can she divorce him when she's been legally dead for all of those years.
@@angelphoenix7784 Considering how many people "die" and come back 25+ issues later, does the Marvel Universe have a "Jesus/Lazarus" clause in the legal books?
@@ChaoticHoly While may have a point where it comes to heroes and villains even minor ones. No normal npc male or female has ever come back. Aunt May came back, which was a mistake. The wife should have never come back, back when Punisher came out, it was never the intension of her coming back; ever. His family's death was what drove him. The only reason for "modern" marvel for doing this is to totally and completely destroy the character.
What I don't understand is since when the punisher has ever been rich?, As far as I understood, he stole money and weapons from the criminals he killed, now his wife comes back from the grave and takes everything from him?
And the weird thing is, she's presented as the one in the "morally correct" way... It really makes you question the morals of the writers and editors at marvel. At least, the Punisher is portrayed as an anti-hero, so he's not completely moral either, but his wife is like psycho.
"I'm alive, sweetie, but I'm going to divirce you, take all your stuff and donate it to charity, because I'm morally right, and a mighty female, and how dare you kill murderers, and rapists! You ought to be ashamed of yourself!"
Kinda makes you want her murdered again lol. She's more evil then the Punisher ever was.
Just like with LucasFilm, I don’t consider any Marvel Comics after the Disney acquisition canon.
Daredevil(Chip) and Thor(Aaron) had banger runs in recent times
Idk about that. They made some pretty good Spidey comics for a while there POST One More Day b4 it turned to crap. Not to mention if they didnt buy Marvel, the company wouldve gone under
@UMESH THUNDERER Thor got dragged through the mud for YEARS by Disney so that's an eye opener lol. As for Daredevil, his series was one of the few to remain consistently good after the Disney acquisition, because it required those writers that had strong knowledge of the law, so they couldn't really afford to completely terraform his comic to suit their "needs" the way the did with countless other titles. I have no problem with diversity itself it isn't what directly ruined marvel, but what does come to mind is modern day Carol Danvers, and the seemingly infinite legacy/clone characters that have popped up since Disney took over Marvel, oh and the godawful writing
Yeah Marvel And Lucus properties are just getting pumped out and disrespect
So was Franken Castle, or the first time he “died” and became supernatural in that group?
Turns out corporate pedophiles, thieves, rapists don't like the idea of someone actually punishing the wicked.
This is why crowdfunded comics are so important, our hero's have been taken by lesser minds, and all we can do is move on and build anew
They hate everything Frank Castle stands for.
Not surprising unfortunately
Castle Burgers
So stupid
Because what he stands for is nothing whatsoever our country stands for!
No one is above the law and no man or woman can judge them.
Frank was a weak man that lived on Revenge and hate
For Frank to be divorced by a wife,who has already been declared dead and buried for so many years is absolutely retarded. For staters,surely the courts would say...you faked your death??? No she would say i was resurrected...really how??? This opens a huge can of worms and no court would move forward on divorce. It's stupid😂😂😂
You got to wonder if comics has an entire division of government to handle the bureaucratic nightmare that would result from all the resurrections, clones, aliens, time travelers, and people that just pop up out of nowhere without any previous records in the system.
Rest in peace, Frank Castle.
The Punisher, in my eyes, will never be what MARVEL turned him into. He'll always represent what it means to lose everything and to try to fight for what's right even if it means losing yourself in an eternal struggle against those that commit evil.
His character, his symbol will forever help me through the broken road ahead... that, sometimes, it is the imperfect and, at times, the visceral nature of reality that the world needs to see and understand.
A damaged soul in a heartless world filled to the brim with monsters. Instead of giving up, he pushed through... whatever means necessary. If that's not relatable, I don't know what is.
punisher kill crew ending was deep and meaningful
started out crazy goofy adventures but the finale fits
Well put
to live is to suffer.... to survive is to find meaning in the suffering.
The rule used to be to just not break a character to the point where it can't be undone and DC/Marvel prove everyday that they hate these characters and the fans that used to read them.
Punisher once said 'I'm not the solution... I'm a symptom of a greater disease.'
He said this to cops. Cops who unironically used his symbol because they not only had never gone through his trauma, they never once understood what he stood for. He said this to cops because he was disgusted that cops thought of him as 'a good guy' and a 'hero' when even Frank Castle knew he was neither. He wasn't a good person, even if he could do good things, nor was he a hero... even though he could do heroic things.
Frank Castle was a victim... and a symptom ... of a greater disease and that disease was Society, from cops to average joe shmoes not stepping up to corrupt politicians and corrupt cops and corrupt business people and toppling them down like they rightfully should be so that they can put something better in that place. He wanted those cops **to do better** and actually be agents of mercy and protection, not like him... especially since so many of those cops power tripped just because they had a badge. It's a reflection of that statement, that old adage 'with great power comes great responsibility' and those cops in that moment... were all failures in Frank Castle's mind.
How Marvel could so royally EFF THAT UP is amazing... and saddening.
Lol a cop can’t really be a symbol of mercy or hope impossible they are enforcers if the law and must be feared to them to enforce the law
If there not feared criminals laugh at them they don’t fear any consequence
Like in many real life places here in the us where crime is so rampant due to soft on crime policies those don’t work
They need to fear consequence to want to change if they don’t they won’t change no amount of kindness can change that
The guy that is current governor of San Salvador now his solutions work and has ms13 one of the most vicious gangs on the planet on notice
And salvadoreños are cheering him on cause they lived a nightmare with ms13
@@GnosisZX You miss my point. Yes, cops have to have some level of authority, some display of strength to be taken seriously. At the same time they have to be held responsible for those privileges they have and when cops start to think that their badge makes them 'better than you' is when they fall astray.
Cops are supposed to be public servants and sadly while sometimes they're tasked with upholding unfair rules or do things out of ignorance of how some more intricate situations/laws work at no point should cops become *BULLIES* and that was my point.
Cops should not be their own little clique, their own little gang, their own little private army that think they can do whatever they damn well please and that's what the Punisher was saying in that particular comic. He told them straight up 'act like the bad guys and behave like the bad guys and I'll treat you like the bad guys. This is your one and only warning to do better.'
@@gearsoverdusk7303 perhaps but expecting them to be like captain America is not possibly I ask you who fears captain America probably not many
Some characters trancend mere "intelectual property" and cross into the realm of cultural mythology. No amount of rewriting or retconing is going to erase the 'real' character from people's minds or from the general zeitgeist.
People know who Frank Castle is and what he's about. That skull is going to be recognizeable forever, and Marvel hates that fact.
'Current' Marvel can write all the spitefull fanfic they want, but its impossible to put that genie back in the jar.
Intellectual*
@@johnroscoe2406 good bot
Right. People all over the world know who Batman, Superman, and all the other superheroes. They know their modus operandi, mannerisms, and goals. Yet how many have read their comics? I like the Punisher and Blade but only because of them appearing in the Spiderman cartoon, video games, or movies. The majority of people don't read American comic books and have no idea what occurs in them.
I love that he doesn't have that false sense of morality that plagues superhero characters.
SAME.
True heroes save lives and don't kill.Punisher is just a mass murderer in the end of day.
@@EvandroACruz No, that fake morality just says the innocent should accept being tormented. Death is the natural retribution for those who commit great evil.
@@EvandroACruz cuck
"it's just a comic", "it's just a movie about a fictional character, why are you so upset?"....because it all adds up. It's pop culture and it influences and shapes generations. That's what the "culture wars" are about more then anything, young people. They don't want anyone else growing up with the same "problematic" ( white, male, straight) characters older generation did.
Damn, not even a comic book badass is safe from those divorces
Punisher, Wolverine, Deadpool and Moon Knight are my 4 favorite and they need screen time together.
Man, I heard what they did to my boy. Punisher was the character that every man with a family could see himself in. Batman was good, but his moral compass for “not murdering” made it nearly impossible to relate to. Also, if you were poor (like me) you knew you would never be Batman.
Punisher had no powers, no money, no problem putting, a bullet into the bad guy, and nothing to loose.
Ya but if you were brought back to life and found out your significant other mass murderer ten of thousands of people in your name you would feel some type of way
@@revolutionarydragon1123 If she'd been watching over him the entire time she was dead, she'd already have come to terms with it. She would have nothing to gain by divorce because once considered dead, your belongings go to other people. I am certain there'd be nothing for her to take by that technicality, but I am not American, so I don't know how it'd work over there.
@@revolutionarydragon1123 Let’s say I got shot up, died, my wife witnessed the entire thing, and then she became the female punisher.
If I was brought back from the dead, I’d take my wife out to dinner, we’d have some drinks, some laughs, and then I’d bring her home and make sweet vigilante love to her.
Pretty damn romantic if a spouse never forgot who you were and fulfilled their life’s work in your name.
After that we’d team up, she could train me, and we would take out the goodie goodies who got too deep in to Satanism utilizing necromancy to bring me back.
We’d probably even have a cross over with Constantine, even though he’s not even part of our universe.
Aaaaaaaaaand that’s how easy it is to write a better story than anything coming out of the comic world now. Literally wrote it while making my kids lunch.
@@moosechuckle I'm talking about real life would you want somebody murdering thousands to ten of thousands of people in your name because that what Frank did took his war and with global with it that why the avengers went after him
@@Badguy292 well that's assuming there a heaven in marvel and as far bringing back from the dead who knows haven't happened yet
The Punisher looking at what Marvel is doing to him:
"Nononononono nonnoonnono WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT"
um… if his wife was literally dead that would end the marriage, preventing a divorce (obviously)
Therefore Frank and the state could sue her for lying about dying in the first place.
Maria is hopefully not that stupid. Not to mention Black ops would be interested in molding her kid into another Punisher but as the ultimate black ops operative.
He is and will stay my favorite character, a very honest, true man with a code, he killed only who deserved it. And one of the most badass characters, he will never be erased or forgotten
That ending of the Punisher is definitely the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.
This hurt me deeply. I grew up with this character and his books got through some tough times.
Thanks for the shoutout brother! So sad to see our man Frank go through this destruction
Joker believed everyone was one bad day from becoming like him. That just shows how crazy he is. Now, the Punisher? There but for the grace of God go I. There's a reason you see a lot more Punisher logos than Batman or Superman.
I'm disappointed but not surprised they couldn't even give him the decency of an honorable death.
The Punisher Skull is used by the Anti-Pedo groups and that is why Marvel changed it
his new symbol is caca and they ruined the punisher
Ah makes sense since leftists are groomers who want to push pedophilia and Marvel is leftist owned now.
Yeah conservatives where incest and pedophilia is normalized using the logo to push everything the punisher against totally wasn’t the reason😂
Lmao, these "anti pedo" groups are the biggest pedos, haha they're the ones who support Trump, Matt Gaetes, and support lowering the age of consent laws in the South.
Idc what anyone says, the Netflix first season of The Punisher was epic. Jon Bernthal's performance was great.
Agreed, he was a good Shane. However, he was a much better Punisher.
@@clifflee54 I like him in both as well, but just felt that season 2 was a waste of him since it was so redundant of the first. Imho they burned up the story in s1. Does that make sense lol
Jon bernthal is the only person I can see playing The Punisher, literally perfect casting, can’t wait to see him back in the new Daredevil show.
#CancelDisneyPlus 🔥
Can't cancel to which you don't subscribe
Never had it, never will get it.
Stopped watching their crap movies too.
Vegeta: MY BABY BOY!!!!😭💢
Honestly the Punisher was my first favorite marvel character from reading borrowed comics from friends, second was the Hulk and then Spider man and finally Wolverine.
I go:
Punisher
Hulk
Gambit
Each hero/vigilante has something about them I see in myself, and I feel like they’re relatable in that way.
I’ll never forgive marvel for this.
Just because it was made by a stupid company decision doesn't mean it has to be accepted by fans as canon.
Amen
amen
Marvel Comics: Why yes, I do hate money and success. How could you tell?
This decision from Marvel that they are doing to the Punisher is one of the reasons why I am sticking with RippaVerse more
Reminds me of what they did to Han Solo. Men are cancelled, that is why these characters end in ways a villain's story should end.
Does this mean no punisher in the new MCU movies? guess the actor Johnathan Bernthal won't be playing him any more
why would it correlate to the mcu
When Marvel hires the dumbest people possible for the dumbest job possible, this is what you get.
So, someone who was legally declared dead was able to file for divorce and take all of his money? What money? He was a known vigilante, he didn't legally own anything. If I had actually spent any money on Marvel comics in the past decade I would stop with this bullshit.
Marvel Comics died when Disney “the destroyer of everything good”, took over. Also, These modern day writers are talentless hacks who don’t know what struggle is or how to write a good story. Even the Punisher’s original co-creator turned against him. Pathetic
I saw this storyline as a slap in the face. The reason I enjoyed reading The Punisher all these years was the fact that Frank was while crazy, still defended the innocent and didn't need powers to take out the trash. Now while there are different writer's that have done The Punisher over the years, this was by far the worst betrayal to the fans of this character by far. Frank loved his family and would do anything for them. His wife would never just up and divorce him. This whole run was a joke from the get go.
"butt the far right likes heem tho!" 😆
There should be a continuation of this where he comes back, pops his wife in the face and goes full evil Batman mode using weaknesses and strategies to kill the heroes who shamed him and helped his wife.
I think its the criminals in our society that, dont hate, but are afraid of the concept of this character
Oh yeah, absolutely. They're afraid of consequences of their actions. Crime is inherently a risk-taking venture.
I can't even muster the energy to be annoyed. Marvel comics haven't respected their characters for a long while now. I'd argue almost 20 years, now.
A lectured struggle session? So basically a college class based on CRT then.
All these comic books ended a long time for me. Whatever they make today, is basically garbage, so honestly they can burn it all down, soon enough they will have nothing to sell!
In the words of Chris Rock in Head of State "That aint RIGHT... That SHIT is WRONG!"
The new symbol looks like a Demon. Typical.
Pretty soon in the future the comic book era of Marvel and DC will die soon, and the sad part is that these modern writers don’t care that it’s dying nor the fact it’ll lose sales because of their incompetence.
They’ll just make excuses by blaming the fans who’re actual fans of these comic books for their own mistakes. My love for comic books is dead because of these idiots.
This stuff is ridiculous and only going to fail. While they think they are sticking it to us we are 😂 at them while revisiting the classics
I'm old enough to remember when the Punisher was introduced. He was a blatant ripoff of a now almost forgotten Paperback hero called 'The Executioner.' Even his origin was the same. I respect the Marvel creation that took on a life of his own. But like the Executioner, he outlived his time.
They didn't kill him because he is suppose to suffer from loss(as well as to potentially being him back as a Left wing, Facist fightng "Liberator," that works at soup kitchens in his spare time). The loss that they caused. These people are sadists.
Leftists work in soup kitchens?
That's a good one! 😆
Modern Marvel just cannot do nuance. The Punisher's brutal but still morally grey approach always intrigued me, and thank god the Daredevil show did such a great job of contrasting those two great characters and their methods before Disney really started their meddling. Sucks to see just how far down the drain the franchise has gone, but hey- at least they can feel good knowing they gave the fans a good scolding once the comics are shut down for hemorrhaging money.
see its entertainment getting political and it ruins everything
Has Marvel not learned anything from John Wick?!?!?
Punisher deserves his own team to lead
"Stupidest, horrendous, ridicules way possible" I was expecting him to sail off into the sunset on a gay pleasure cruise, never to be seen again.
Him dying off by the criminal underworld woudve been the easiest way to just get rid of him, I get and understand that hes controversial but why go through all this overly complicated crap.
'The Punisher' became 'The Punished (by feminism)' with that _"Imma get that bag"_ mentality. This ending is beyond stupid!
Jesus Christ, is this what comics look like now? Did Eric July steal all the good art talent? Those new Punisher panels look like amateur hour.
Ah, yes, that's sure to bring more popularity for men to get married.
They can kill Frank Castle, but they can't kill The Punisher. He is us and we are He. An idea is not so easily defeated
Marvels been shit lately
If the DisMarvel machine ever does try to bring him back as a cash-grab, I hope fans will remember all of this and refuse to bite. Let it burn.
“What were they thinking?!”
- Angry Video Game Nerd
i hope disney goes bankrupt
I have two whole long boxes full of punisher books. They will never take those away from me. This is not my #punisher
With Marvel doing this, knowing that the Punisher is an ex Marine. In effect Marvel just took a duke over the faces of the US m
Marines whether serving now, veteran or honorably discharged. Which is low, REAL low. And being Castle's honest and a family man shows that even Marvel even sees that as a threat. Folks, I have nothing but the purest and unlimited respect to the US Marines for what they do. Marvel to me, take a hike. The Punisher teaches so many people things to never give into the temptations of the evils of the world by, the wrongdoers, the corrupt, the sadistic, and the treacherous. And being a true badass whilst doing it. No, Marvel you are in NO way "Stan Lee's" Marvel.
Considering modern Marvel views Stan "The Man" Lee as "that annoying old guy who wouldn't die fast enough", you're not wrong.
I loved the War Zone series!
When Marvel was awesome. Now, its terrible and the writers hate the original source material.
I have Warzone no7 printed on a t-shirt, such a great cover :)
@@aikighost Totally! I also loved the cover on the first issue. Blew my mind when I was kid.
This BS is why I don't read marvel or Dc anymore.
The WHOLE POINT to why he went down that dark road was BECAUSE they got KILLED in FRONT of him. I WOULD PROBABLY BE LIKE THAT TOO if my family was killed like this. Parents that loose their kids from accidents and murderers FULLY understand how it feels. This is BEYOND generic
Frank was the hero that got me into comic books when I came to the United States when I was 5 years old.
He deserves more than this crap,
I preferred how they got rid of him in Suicide Run... granted they brought him back, but it seemed like a fitting end.
This doesn't make me mad as everything gets retconned anyway, but it's just funny to me, it's like a Robot Chicken sketch.
You forgot how they turned him black after his fight with jigsaw.... lmao !!!
wow they did him more dirty than Spider-Man
The only piece of Marvel merch I own is a Thomas Jane era Punisher logo t shirt. I wear it every year to my local Comic con. They are truly dead to me now!
Yeahhh, nah, I'm good....#FrankCastleForever #ThePunisherNeverDies
Let's face it, Marvel comics started dying around gamergate, it's just been a slow death.
American comics are dead. None can touch the sales numbers for manga now. Unfortunately, I don't think there is a character like Punisher in recent manga comics, especially one who likes using guns as much.
The only way to bring Punisher back would be another Welcome Back Frank reboot that ignores all this garbage writing. Marvel only cares about ESG now, not the actual paying fans.
Modern day comics are woke trash. Let Marvel sink to the bottom.
yo, how did he go out?
He went out like a bitch!"
this is the difference between western comics and east asian manga. what would happen, how would fans and authors respond to such trash with their favorite hero of a popular manga? And would they even allow it? Western culture is doomed because it even resists its own preservation.
Bet next they’re gonna say Tony was just drinking apple juice Ike ole Dean Martin.
At least, they didn't make him gay/trans/bi...... Yet.....
The Transitioner! Rainbow skull and all.
Comic book deaths and resurrections are tied to retail sales. So sad.
I feel like I’m in a alternate timeline were this weird wild woke shit is prevalent… Conway drank the kool aid! On your mark… get set… TERRIBLE!😂
I was like “you know MVP the wrestler!?” LOL 🤣
The old Punisher skull will live on as a symbol of Freedom, no matter what the soy boys did to Frank Castle story 💀💀💀
Chris Kyle did something to that I can't be undone. When do you separate fiction from reality a fictional symbol becomes the symbol of real life death and revenge in this that is some fucked-up idolatry
The Punisher is one of my favorite Marvel characters, and i think this is freaking absurd
Disney Punisher is not The Punisher
Disney Star Wars is not Star Wars
Disney Marvel died at End Game.
Why else do you think it was called endgame?
i would’ve expected Frank to die an honorable death by dying in battle
He got results, but the pros hate the kinda people that like him
Punisher: THE END by Ennis, is a great read as well. Frank going out in a blaze of glory in the middle of the nuclear hellscape!
I always did find the police's obsession with the Punisher skull silly given how Frank is probably the most ACAB character in all of Marvel, and I can understand them wanting to distance themselves from the symbol given how it's been used, but straight-up going out of their way to humiliate and shame the character like this seems like such a needlessly ridiculous overcorrection.
I wonder how much my Punisher:War Zone collection is worth now? 🤔
I hope Jon Bernthal fights for the characters integrity after hearing he'll reprise his role as The Punisher for Disneys MCU...but of course I fear the mouse will prevail and ruin the character again.
🤦🏻♂️ So ridiculous.
Yep did a video on this too. Super pissed on what they did to Frank. Made him pathetic and stupid. I’ll just go back and read Punisher MAX.
I hope Marvel goes completely bankrupt.
Marvel and DC cucking each other and using leftist BS on him, hope both DC and Marvel will sink. Only IDW Godzilla story comic books is what I read.
Marvel is full on tarded
I hope to have a route this last series for The Punisher has the same end in their real life.