I think anarchist should get disguise ability to make other people to look like villager or werewolf role to seers during the night in that game.the uses should be three times only and can be used once per day. And the anarchist should be immune to ww attacks. The point is, the anarch can make wolf looks like villager or the other way. The required villager to get Lynch is the same. You can save a ww and make a villager get lynch or just get a villager lynched.
Ayo i know it will sound weird but Role: Stalker (solo random) Objective:(opposite of hh) Make your Target survive Abilities:when the game starts you will be given a target who you can protect twice per game if they die tho you will die aswell but if you die nothing will happen you can still win but how? Your Target is still alive duh. and you will be able to posses sm once. So who you posses cant talk and use their abilities and instead you can talk and use their abilities for one whole day. But what will happen if all evils are dead? The game wont end you HAVE TO find the stalkers target or else they will win the game will give you 2 or 3 days of time to correctly guess stalkers target (stalkers target can only be villagers)
Role idea:Hitman Team:Solo Aura:Unk Base:Headhunter During the first night,you will be given a blue and red target.If the blue target gets lynched,you will die aswell.If the red target gets lynched,the blue target becomes a red target.If both targets are lynched,you win.
I am happy to see the Instigator so high on the list. It's the whole reason I started playing Wolvesville. A Town of Salem mod, BetterToS besically introduced the role to me and I love it. Cupid has also become one of my favorite roles in Wolvesville.
I remember the days where there's no inventory system. Where when i played as gunner and dies the gr gonna stole my gun and when i get reved i still have both bullet. So the village gonna have four bullets to use
Ahh yes I remember headhunter in the WWOCS tournament where they tweaked the rules and made it where headhunter isn’t a villager if their target dies. Would have made it so much better but the devs didn’t listen to those suggestions
I personally don't think taking away hhs ability for winning with village would be good because then as soon as their target dies from something other than lynch, they can only lose and will most likely just flee
I actually do have a voting role idea: Tyrant: At the start of the game, three random players become your subjects (solo killers cannot become the tyrant’s subject). Your subjects may send private team messages at nighttime, they can choose to vote on a player to assassinate at nighttime, the assassination will only happen if all living subjects vote on the same player and at least 2 subjects are alive, if they assassinate the tyrant, they win. If they assassinate the wrong player, they all die. Once per game the tyrant can reveal his own role and gain triple votes for the rest of the game, the tyrant wins if he is the last player alive. Note: The tyrant’s subjects can still win with their own teams
@@hypostein Alternatively, the subjects can take over voting phase once per game (only happens when all of them agrees to do so, also hides votes), this way village must somehow affect the subjects and not let them vote the right player. Also in hindsight subjects shouldn’t die when they vote wrong, and no more than 1 evil can be a subject otherwise they can just use the opportunity to vote out informers.
Hey guys,I know about guidelines to stay in topic but I have one question How can you get skin that's exclusive on real money pack with in game currency. Like cupid-instigator skin or nightmare-vodoo skin. I really looking for way to get violinist skin.
bandit is actually veru powerful is a much better sk that can also kill plus convert and balance off the villager that actually gives him a chance to win even if bandit is dead and killing acco is not a good option
@@TerraLuna2001 bandit is possibly the strongest rk indeed. Strengthwise it is S or A tier, but Im not a big fan of conversion roles because of the "giving in" that some villagers do, hence its low on this list
About fool almost always at day one i was doing sheriff claim with random died and most always i was right and they trusted me and in the end peoples lynch you when it's rv game ofc
@@hypostein yeah, especially the headhunter, imagine if they gave him an ability to once per game enchant your target like wolf shaman, that'd be great
I think people don’t like fool because silly asf roles like vigilante and seer exist nowadays. I personally love playing fool in ranked, there really are limitless ways to play it… plus I suck at faking anyway so all I have to do is convince myself I’m a werewolf 💀🤣
Role İdea Name:(The)Communist What does he do:At night you chose 1 people if he/she is ww,hh(unless target dead),solo or protected then you cant turn him/her.When that person you choosed will work for you and do mining and there is 50% chance you get gold(with gold you can make shield) or iron(you can do sword with it).You will just wait and your team will do mining for you.İf you get voted out or the wws kill you(unless you have 2 people on your team),you choose someone to take your place and he/she will be the next leader that night and with the sword you will be able to kill someone who was protected with his/her protecter and with the shield you can protect your team if they get attacked your whole team can see who attacked your team but the attacker cant see you Aura:Unknown The Helpers:Unknown Team:Communists İts the advanced role of bandit
@@hypostein No. Imo canni even deserves S. It's strong and you have so much fake potential (sheriff and ss claims are easy af) and you can't be found as an evil by your cc. Super fun role
Hey hypo, make a short video about this Fanmade role... please😢😢 Wolvesville Team:Solo Role:Night Hunter Aura:Good or Unknown Role Icon:A villager having green eyes and covered with a blue blanket,A sword in his back. Ability:Each night execpt the first night, you can kill a player..If your killed player is solo killer or werewolf then your aura will be good and team shown as village in the next night to all informative roles..You cannot killed by any werewolf or solo killer. WIN CONDITION:Eliminate all werewolves and solo killers and stand with the village..You wins solo..
Zombies game:hey 13 4 wanna wait to me bite you? Zombies give more XP 13 4:ok The villagers that did the best to village win like gunner and mm and died:😐 Every game that rk is in 1 vs 1 vs 1:i will help arso What is my point? It's because almost the games peoples help rk in 1 vs 1 vs 1
I don’t understand the continuity in your videos. You’ve said the best cards to upgrade among others are doc and BH, yet you’ve places their upgrades lower than them in this list. How can seer be worse that aura seer? You get better info.
this is a personal tierlist, based off: Fun General feeling Balance The upgrade one is purely looking at: Frequency Strength Fun Both are different and both are relevant in their own way. This one is a 5k subs special and is about my personal preferences foremost. But Balance is important too when we look at role design and that is how I look at roles. Seer is broken, hence lower tier. Unfun role to play against, shapes games in a bad way because players get lazy and refuse to claim. Aura seer doesn't, it's balanced, albeit a bit boring I suppose, but thats still more ok than a broken role. In the ''which card to upgrade'' tierlist however, balance is NOT relevant, because someone looking to upgrade a role card simply wants to improve their own fun/winrate and doesnt give a damn about the balance of it. I thought I mentioned this type of stuff in the beginning of these videos too, maybe I forgot to in this tierlist, but you will see it in the 2022 roles ranked, 2023 roles ranked as ''Creativity - Balance - Fun'', in the upgrade tierlist as ''Strength - Fun - Frequency'' etc
I've heard in the games that I am following your instructions and I don't know you at all and people say you are a extremely good player on Werewolf Online, I doubt it, honestly. I would like to play with you some games to see how pasta you are. (It means how you move in the game). Would you give me that pressure to play with me some games? Thank you. Werewolf online's nickname: Rafrisk
In all honesty, I wouldnt consider myself a pro by any means. I havent played ranked in ages, and my solo winrate isnt anything great either. At most Id call myself an experienced player and most things that COULD make me a good player are from JackF WWOs videos, those are probably the videos I learnt most strats and patterns from. I would say however that the level in my custom games is relatively high. I am not the person who shines there, but a lot of people in my friendlist that often join are good players or are people that know they gotta play their best because thats the reputation my customs have and what I demand. If you want to see how good or bad I am, you can check my profile stats in game, I would say they reflect very well how I am as a player (maybe amongst the top 10-20% sandbox players but absolutely nothing when it comes to most serious ranked players), but Im willing to invite you to my custom games when I host them. 😅
@@hypostein Yeah, of course, I wouldn't mind playing with you. If you have one more place to have a friend we can be friends in wwo and as long as you create them, you can invite me and I'll play with you with joy.
Actually the Cursed rework you suggested in this video is very similar to the Lurker role testing right now.
Yes I also thought about that as soon as I saw the Lurker description but I made this video a week ago 😅
I think anarchist should get disguise ability to make other people to look like villager or werewolf role to seers during the night in that game.the uses should be three times only and can be used once per day. And the anarchist should be immune to ww attacks. The point is, the anarch can make wolf looks like villager or the other way. The required villager to get Lynch is the same. You can save a ww and make a villager get lynch or just get a villager lynched.
Ayo i know it will sound weird but
Role: Stalker (solo random)
Objective:(opposite of hh) Make your Target survive
Abilities:when the game starts you will be given a target who you can protect twice per game if they die tho you will die aswell but if you die nothing will happen you can still win but how? Your Target is still alive duh. and you will be able to posses sm once. So who you posses cant talk and use their abilities and instead you can talk and use their abilities for one whole day. But what will happen if all evils are dead? The game wont end you HAVE TO find the stalkers target or else they will win the game will give you 2 or 3 days of time to correctly guess stalkers target (stalkers target can only be villagers)
That's like guardian angel for town of salem but with extra abilities, I like it
I actually really like the concept of a role that can't do much while alive, but is able to posses people when dead
@@LucyTheBox fr
Role idea:Hitman
Team:Solo
Aura:Unk
Base:Headhunter
During the first night,you will be given a blue and red target.If the blue target gets lynched,you will die aswell.If the red target gets lynched,the blue target becomes a red target.If both targets are lynched,you win.
i dont think that will be meta becuse it will be hard to play
Harder hh
@@hypostein but should it have more target than hh so it will be more harder?
This is kinda just a harder hh. It would have to have an improvement from HH to actually be usable.
Maybe there should be some extra abilities to it such as maybe weakening the villagers' votes for a die, et cetera
I am happy to see the Instigator so high on the list. It's the whole reason I started playing Wolvesville. A Town of Salem mod, BetterToS besically introduced the role to me and I love it.
Cupid has also become one of my favorite roles in Wolvesville.
I remember the days where there's no inventory system. Where when i played as gunner and dies the gr gonna stole my gun and when i get reved i still have both bullet. So the village gonna have four bullets to use
6:23 Lurker took that one
But the only thing that it can't do that is survive after a lynch🤣
Ahh yes I remember headhunter in the WWOCS tournament where they tweaked the rules and made it where headhunter isn’t a villager if their target dies. Would have made it so much better but the devs didn’t listen to those suggestions
we did the same in TCL
I personally don't think taking away hhs ability for winning with village would be good because then as soon as their target dies from something other than lynch, they can only lose and will most likely just flee
I think they should get an alternative win con
I mean revealed fool will never win but no one really complains about that so maybe it’s fine?
Fool is the best role for a reason.
Boring as fuck to play with it tho
@@phoenixoflight224 fr
@@phoenixoflight224 it's the so fun imo
@@phoenixoflight224 making it fun is up to you i think.
@@malikozbaba5381 Fun for me is actually faking a role to survive. Not faking a role to die
I actually do have a voting role idea:
Tyrant: At the start of the game, three random players become your subjects (solo killers cannot become the tyrant’s subject). Your subjects may send private team messages at nighttime, they can choose to vote on a player to assassinate at nighttime, the assassination will only happen if all living subjects vote on the same player and at least 2 subjects are alive, if they assassinate the tyrant, they win. If they assassinate the wrong player, they all die. Once per game the tyrant can reveal his own role and gain triple votes for the rest of the game, the tyrant wins if he is the last player alive.
Note: The tyrant’s subjects can still win with their own teams
This doesnt sound like a voting role to me, because if I understand it correctly, it happens at night so it doesnt impact village lynching...
@@hypostein Alternatively, the subjects can take over voting phase once per game (only happens when all of them agrees to do so, also hides votes), this way village must somehow affect the subjects and not let them vote the right player. Also in hindsight subjects shouldn’t die when they vote wrong, and no more than 1 evil can be a subject otherwise they can just use the opportunity to vote out informers.
Me watching this video after upgrade my zombie role to legendary
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14:48 i think that stands for Random Other which is Cupid, Instigator, Cursed, Werewolf Fan, Grave Robber and Lurker
That didn't exist back then, this one refers to the true Random role (the ones you find in All Random crazy gamemode).
@@hypostein Ooh ok then, thanks :)
Also an thing wwf have is that you not die if you got jailed with villager and when him shoot you him die not wwf it say that wwf is village
i think Bandit > all the random killer roles
Hey guys,I know about guidelines to stay in topic but I have one question
How can you get skin that's exclusive on real money pack with in game currency.
Like cupid-instigator skin or nightmare-vodoo skin.
I really looking for way to get violinist skin.
I sadly dont think this is possible, if theres a way, its gifting to friends
bandit is actually veru powerful is a much better sk that can also kill plus convert and balance off the villager that actually gives him a chance to win even if bandit is dead and killing acco is not a good option
@@TerraLuna2001 bandit is possibly the strongest rk indeed. Strengthwise it is S or A tier, but Im not a big fan of conversion roles because of the "giving in" that some villagers do, hence its low on this list
@@hypostein oh ok that is fair.
About fool almost always at day one i was doing sheriff claim with random died and most always i was right and they trusted me and in the end peoples lynch you when it's rv game ofc
for me, the best solo is headhunter and bandit
Both of them are flawed balancewise, but they can be fun to play sure
@@hypostein yeah, especially the headhunter, imagine if they gave him an ability to once per game enchant your target like wolf shaman, that'd be great
I think people don’t like fool because silly asf roles like vigilante and seer exist nowadays. I personally love playing fool in ranked, there really are limitless ways to play it… plus I suck at faking anyway so all I have to do is convince myself I’m a werewolf 💀🤣
Exactly that!
Role İdea
Name:(The)Communist
What does he do:At night you chose 1 people if he/she is ww,hh(unless target dead),solo or protected then you cant turn him/her.When that person you choosed will work for you and do mining and there is 50% chance you get gold(with gold you can make shield) or iron(you can do sword with it).You will just wait and your team will do mining for you.İf you get voted out or the wws kill you(unless you have 2 people on your team),you choose someone to take your place and he/she will be the next leader that night and with the sword you will be able to kill someone who was protected with his/her protecter and with the shield you can protect your team if they get attacked your whole team can see who attacked your team but the attacker cant see you
Aura:Unknown
The Helpers:Unknown
Team:Communists
İts the advanced role of bandit
Ehh rng based roles arent ideal imo
i nearly got an 8 kill yesterday with arsonist :(
i have to argue that arsonist is better at cannibal. i wont support it with evidence but i believe this
@@paravalent7974 in hindsight, I should have placed canni on B.
Also, what happened to your arso game that you didnt burn 8 people?
@@hypostein i lost i think by a random kill or something
@@hypostein No. Imo canni even deserves S. It's strong and you have so much fake potential (sheriff and ss claims are easy af) and you can't be found as an evil by your cc. Super fun role
now we can to try blight
Hey hypo, make a short video about this Fanmade role... please😢😢
Wolvesville Team:Solo Role:Night Hunter Aura:Good or Unknown
Role Icon:A villager having green eyes and covered with a blue blanket,A sword in his back. Ability:Each night execpt the first night, you can kill a player..If your killed player is solo killer or werewolf then your aura will be good and team shown as village in the next night to all informative roles..You cannot killed by any werewolf or solo killer. WIN CONDITION:Eliminate all werewolves and solo killers and stand with the village..You wins solo..
This is too op imo
@@hypostein I am so glad🙏😇😇That you like this role..So you can also mention, whoes advanced role is this, i mean whats it's base role?
If it were me I will put cursed and sk on S tier cos I play that the most lol
Zombies game:hey 13 4 wanna wait to me bite you? Zombies give more XP
13 4:ok
The villagers that did the best to village win like gunner and mm and died:😐
Every game that rk is in 1 vs 1 vs 1:i will help arso
What is my point? It's because almost the games peoples help rk in 1 vs 1 vs 1
Well help the person who played better in a 1 v 1 v1
Rk is very hard to win,and in the game with conversion rk the vills will 100% help that rk
Personally i hate zb so much but its too annoying for wws so i play with it all times lol(and easier to win with zb😅)
True
Nah. Anarchist should be an *A* tier because they got Circle A on his Icon XD jk I never play that role
AhAhAAAA 🤣
I don’t understand the continuity in your videos.
You’ve said the best cards to upgrade among others are doc and BH, yet you’ve places their upgrades lower than them in this list.
How can seer be worse that aura seer? You get better info.
this is a personal tierlist, based off:
Fun
General feeling
Balance
The upgrade one is purely looking at:
Frequency
Strength
Fun
Both are different and both are relevant in their own way. This one is a 5k subs special and is about my personal preferences foremost.
But Balance is important too when we look at role design and that is how I look at roles. Seer is broken, hence lower tier. Unfun role to play against, shapes games in a bad way because players get lazy and refuse to claim. Aura seer doesn't, it's balanced, albeit a bit boring I suppose, but thats still more ok than a broken role.
In the ''which card to upgrade'' tierlist however, balance is NOT relevant, because someone looking to upgrade a role card simply wants to improve their own fun/winrate and doesnt give a damn about the balance of it.
I thought I mentioned this type of stuff in the beginning of these videos too, maybe I forgot to in this tierlist, but you will see it in the 2022 roles ranked, 2023 roles ranked as ''Creativity - Balance - Fun'', in the upgrade tierlist as ''Strength - Fun - Frequency'' etc
Simple,seer is absolutely broken theres literally no way to counter it.seer ckecks you and youre evil you just die
my fav role is illusionist
I wont agree. I will never agree. Zombie is the best solo in game. 😂
🤣
I've heard in the games that I am following your instructions and I don't know you at all and people say you are a extremely good player on Werewolf Online, I doubt it, honestly.
I would like to play with you some games to see how pasta you are. (It means how you move in the game). Would you give me that pressure to play with me some games? Thank you.
Werewolf online's nickname: Rafrisk
In all honesty, I wouldnt consider myself a pro by any means. I havent played ranked in ages, and my solo winrate isnt anything great either. At most Id call myself an experienced player and most things that COULD make me a good player are from JackF WWOs videos, those are probably the videos I learnt most strats and patterns from.
I would say however that the level in my custom games is relatively high. I am not the person who shines there, but a lot of people in my friendlist that often join are good players or are people that know they gotta play their best because thats the reputation my customs have and what I demand.
If you want to see how good or bad I am, you can check my profile stats in game, I would say they reflect very well how I am as a player (maybe amongst the top 10-20% sandbox players but absolutely nothing when it comes to most serious ranked players), but Im willing to invite you to my custom games when I host them. 😅
@@hypostein Yeah, of course, I wouldn't mind playing with you. If you have one more place to have a friend we can be friends in wwo and as long as you create them, you can invite me and I'll play with you with joy.
@@rafrisk9414 yes I will add you!
have anyone tried blight?
@@tienlamo402 not yet
@@hypostein i have tried it 2 times
Sect leader is the besttttt
corruptor is the most boring solo role,even sk is more interesting..
ZOMBIE
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@@yobrodeath9140 only because you think sect leader is a god
@@Pokémon_Enthusiast zombies are L's for wolfs lmao even with 4 random wolfs. There are the rk kills missing
@@phoenixoflight224 exactly, hypostein asked what's the bested solo role, not the best role for helping werewolves
@@Pokémon_Enthusiast But wolfs and solos have the same enemies. I'm not on your side lmao. Random killer and ww need to work together to win