@@leniluan5131 The second game very specifically references the events of the first, and the ending even creates a closed loop that leads into the events of the first. This lazy, awful attempt at a retcon for the sake of stupid fan service means absolutely nothing. If Kamiya wants to use the third game to say "nope, the story doesn't matter" then I'm taking him up on his offer.
@@octogigas Here's the case: Bayonetta 1 and 2 happen in different timelines, but the events of Bayonetta 1 happened in B2, but not vice versa. It was definitely a lazy excuse to have all 3 bayos, but a justification at that
The game feels like what happens when Okami and Bayonetta, two of Hideki Kamiya's most iconic video games, fuse together for a storybook-like story. I do know that it's a prequel, but seeing all the time traveling and timeline altering, I do not know where it fits.
You are aware that Bayonetta 3 is a separate universe from the first two games. Bayo 3 is Brave (Little) Cereza from the Time Displacement. Making Bayo 3 an alternate universe or timeline. So it doesn’t fit in the timeline of Bayo 1&2.
JUST A REMINDER BAYO 1 AND 2 ARE NOT SEPARATE UNIVERSES! (If you read the bio for the Bayo 2 it says she comes from an almost identical universe to Bayonetta 1)
"almost" meaning different ❤ The moon exists in Bayo 2, even though Balder destroyed it in 1. Cereza says "Balder! The *dimensional* portal is opening!" when she opens a portal back to her time. So they aren't the same universe, unless the moon can magically come back for no reason. ❤
@@nicolecanlas9365On the official platinum games website, there is a video of Kamiya giving commentary over the entire first game, and he says directly that time travelling back to return little Cereza creates a new timeline universe, therefore any time travel that causes a change creates a new universe ❤
@@Shadowrulzalwaysbecause that means that we won’t know the beginning of the bayo 3´s life and the end of the bayo 1 and 2’s life and that means that we don’t even know if the bayo 1 and 2 also end up with Luka at the end of the
My favorite character is of course Nero, from the Devil May Cry Series. You guys may say why am I picking a non-Bayonetta series character? Well, guys, you're wrong. 'cause Devil May Cry & Bayonetta take place in the SAME universe, confirmed by Enzo's appearance in the DMC3 Manga and it's canon because it shows Dante and Vergil's meeting 1 year before DMC3's story (Said by Dante at the end of Mission 02 in DMC3: It's been nearly a year since we last met. Where does the time go?) another proof that the 2 universes are the same is a piece of concept art from Bayonetta 1 that shows Enzo playing solitaire with a muscular man in the gates of hell bar while Bayonetta is ordering something from Rodin & yes that muscular man is Dante.
Also Bayo contracts with Phantasmaraneae aka Phantom who fought Dante. His name Tony Redgrave came from Luka’s father’s name Antonio Redgrave. There’s tons of references to Viewtiful Joe, Wonderful 101, even Okami, so those are all also part of the Bayoverse too :P jk (maybe)
corrections: - before the first Armageddon, there was only one realm. nobody knows how and why the previous universe got destroyed. all we know is that the Trinity of Realities was a result of it. - Bayonetta doesn’t give her younger self a watch. the little one already had it on her because it was a birthday gift from Rosa, but Bayonetta gave her one of her ribbons so she can wear it like a necklace. Bayonetta teaches her that when you love something, you should never lose it, but keep it safe close to your heart. - the realms messing up are a result of an imbalance of power among the realms since Jubileus was killed, leaving Sheba and Loptr and Loki. from what i understand, it’s not necessarily due to the creation of branching timelines. - only Bayonetta is the one summoning Gomorrah, not Jeanne - Bayonetta barely ever helps her variants against the Homunculi. she just stands there for 3 of her variants and does the rest of the work when they’re dead. at least she did help β3 and the latter sacrificed herself. her reaction time sucks so hard in this game smh - there is no Sigurd from the Alphaverse. Singularity killed Midmyers Sigurd and shapeshifted into him to deceive Bayo and Jeanne - Viola also gets Luka’s scarf (man did they desperately try too hard to be like DMC 5 in this game 😭)
I don't really know, but I do know that Dante, DMC's protagonist, has quite a lot in common with Bayonetta, apart from the fact that they were created by Hideki Kamiya.
The fact that bayonetta 2 is before bayonetta one and bayonetta 3 could be play in de middle of the two so that will explain some thing like why did bayonetta change and why do they already know themselve
In future games, Viola is going to look for a way to bring back Bayonetta and Luka so she's going to ask Rodin to transport her to inferno. Rodin is going to refuse the request as he suspects she doesn't stand a chance to actually survive. Viola will then turn to Enzo to see if he could do anything or to see if he has any contact that might do it instead of Rodin. Enzo is going to remember Morrison and Dante from the DMC series and he's going to lead her to Dante's shop "Devil May Cry". When she get's there she will not find Dante but Morrison, since he's the one running the shop at this point. Lady and Trish will be out on a demon hunting mission but Morrison will give her the contact for Nero and Nico. After meeting Nero, she'll learn that who she's looking for is also trapped in inferno so Nero and Viola will somehow venture into inferno/underworld together and that will be the beginning to the long awaited crossover game "Bayonetta X Devil May Cry"
In Beyonetta 3, if they were going to introduce Faery stuff, why not make that the third enemy type. The Sci-Fi Homunculi look too Angelic to me. They could of made them bionic or cyborg-esk version of angels or demons or Frankenstein versions
I like to think Bayonetta ended in 2 on that time loop and that's it. Because oh god all of the writers for Bayonetta 3 should lose their right to work as writers XD Also I would NOT be surprised if from all of the complaining of Bayonetta 3 plot, Platinum would take out of it that people didn't like the Multiverse aspect of it, and just ignore it ever existed while keeping on with Viola. Which is just downright dumb, since we play Bayonetta because of Cereza, and who she is and how she act, there's no other reason xD They tried the devil may cry 5 approach but it feels like they gave 1/8th of the thought Capcom did on that game for Bayonetta's plot and how to introduce and make us enjoy a new character before forcing it on us.
I've heard that bayonetta 3 is in a different universe than the first 2 but is close to the original and as well the first 2 are different but are very similar
I don't like the idea of Viola replacing Bayonetta, so if they made a 4th game they better find means to bring the original Bayonetta from the first game
just finish the game today and see this video on my Recommended....... im assuming all 3 game is 3 different timeline... and we never actually play the same Bayo in each game, and i mean they can go Zelda route and make bunch of game in different timeline now
@@yellohammer8571 regardless of how messed up it is in universe it should have been included. the lore of the bayo universe was greatly expanded upon with origins and its a shame that it’s missing from this timeline.
Bayonetta 1 is damn good looking and worst is voila.... I don't want Voila being as bayonetta since bayonetta 1 is the reason this game have series due to her bad ass hot mommy looks
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May I request to update The Legend of Zelda timeline with the newly released Tears of the Kingdom?
THEY ARE MAKING BAYONETTA 4!
I remember being absoutely flabbergasted when they revealed that all 3 games were different Bayonettas
They're not, no matter what Kamiya says about it.
@@octogigas The game tells us, very dearly but ok
@@leniluan5131 The second game very specifically references the events of the first, and the ending even creates a closed loop that leads into the events of the first.
This lazy, awful attempt at a retcon for the sake of stupid fan service means absolutely nothing. If Kamiya wants to use the third game to say "nope, the story doesn't matter" then I'm taking him up on his offer.
@@octogigas Here's the case: Bayonetta 1 and 2 happen in different timelines, but the events of Bayonetta 1 happened in B2, but not vice versa. It was definitely a lazy excuse to have all 3 bayos, but a justification at that
@@leniluan5131 That's stupid and makes no sense and it's awful.
Fun fact, the Bayonetta from the third game is the Time Displaced Cereza from Bayonetta 1, aka young Cereza
I have no idea lol
Should probably re-edit this video to include Cereza and the Lost Demon.
That’s what I said lol
There's a lot that ties to the third game including the secret chapter
Cereza sucks
@@duece5542 cereza is Bayonetta tho?..
@@duece5542 cereza is Bayonetta tho?..
This guy reads the way ride operators tell you to please keep your hands and feet in the vehicle at all times.
No mention of Bayonetta Origins :(
I absolutely love that game
The game feels like what happens when Okami and Bayonetta, two of Hideki Kamiya's most iconic video games, fuse together for a storybook-like story. I do know that it's a prequel, but seeing all the time traveling and timeline altering, I do not know where it fits.
@@yellohammer8571 The endgame bonus chapter featuring Jeanne confirms that Bayonetta origins takes place in the same timeline as Bayonetta 1, 2 & 3.
@@Mudkip971but how is the issue
@@stereokuuji how do you mean? It fits as before bayo 1
@@shysha1308 I forgot about this but thanks for clarifying that 😂
THE ONE WHO SUMMONED GAMORAH IN BAYONETTA 2 WAS BAYONETTA AN SHE IS THE ONE WHO LOST CONTROL
You are aware that Bayonetta 3 is a separate universe from the first two games. Bayo 3 is Brave (Little) Cereza from the Time Displacement. Making Bayo 3 an alternate universe or timeline. So it doesn’t fit in the timeline of Bayo 1&2.
Neat
JUST A REMINDER BAYO 1 AND 2 ARE NOT SEPARATE UNIVERSES!
(If you read the bio for the Bayo 2 it says she comes from an almost identical universe to Bayonetta 1)
Yeah, almost
Bayo 1 and 2 are time loops
"almost" meaning different ❤
The moon exists in Bayo 2, even though Balder destroyed it in 1. Cereza says "Balder! The *dimensional* portal is opening!" when she opens a portal back to her time. So they aren't the same universe, unless the moon can magically come back for no reason. ❤
@@nicolecanlas9365On the official platinum games website, there is a video of Kamiya giving commentary over the entire first game, and he says directly that time travelling back to return little Cereza creates a new timeline universe, therefore any time travel that causes a change creates a new universe ❤
But Bayo 3 is Little Cereza’s universe. So there is that.
I wish that bayonetta would have been the same timeline instead of a different universe
Why?
@@Shadowrulzalwaysbecause that means that we won’t know the beginning of the bayo 3´s life and the end of the bayo 1 and 2’s life and that means that we don’t even know if the bayo 1 and 2 also end up with Luka at the end of the
@@alex_14kthe game literally confirms we've playing as the same character all along
NOW THEY NEED TO MAKE BAYONETTA 4!
Lukanetta 4 ever i love their relationship
I can’t wait for Bayonetta 4 to happen 🥹
My favorite character is of course Nero, from the Devil May Cry Series. You guys may say why am I picking a non-Bayonetta series character? Well, guys, you're wrong. 'cause Devil May Cry & Bayonetta take place in the SAME universe, confirmed by Enzo's appearance in the DMC3 Manga and it's canon because it shows Dante and Vergil's meeting 1 year before DMC3's story (Said by Dante at the end of Mission 02 in DMC3: It's been nearly a year since we last met. Where does the time go?) another proof that the 2 universes are the same is a piece of concept art from Bayonetta 1 that shows Enzo playing solitaire with a muscular man in the gates of hell bar while Bayonetta is ordering something from Rodin & yes that muscular man is Dante.
Also Bayo contracts with Phantasmaraneae aka Phantom who fought Dante. His name Tony Redgrave came from Luka’s father’s name Antonio Redgrave. There’s tons of references to Viewtiful Joe, Wonderful 101, even Okami, so those are all also part of the Bayoverse too :P jk (maybe)
The director and lore authority of DMC said angels don't exist in DMC, so they aren't in the same universe ❤
@@Cereza1411yap, plus all the similarities to DMC in the Bayonetta games are just easter eggs and references
Snore
After watching this video I have one thing to say. "What?!" Lol
Question, Why did you miss Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon in this video?
HOPE WE GET BAYONETTA 4!
Sorry, but Kamiya left Platinum Games.
@@Shadowrulzalways THEY WILL PROBABLY STILL MAKE BAYONETTA 4!
@@rmannayr2129 Without Kamiya? Highly doubt it since he has a tight grip.
corrections:
- before the first Armageddon, there was only one realm. nobody knows how and why the previous universe got destroyed. all we know is that the Trinity of Realities was a result of it.
- Bayonetta doesn’t give her younger self a watch. the little one already had it on her because it was a birthday gift from Rosa, but Bayonetta gave her one of her ribbons so she can wear it like a necklace. Bayonetta teaches her that when you love something, you should never lose it, but keep it safe close to your heart.
- the realms messing up are a result of an imbalance of power among the realms since Jubileus was killed, leaving Sheba and Loptr and Loki. from what i understand, it’s not necessarily due to the creation of branching timelines.
- only Bayonetta is the one summoning Gomorrah, not Jeanne
- Bayonetta barely ever helps her variants against the Homunculi. she just stands there for 3 of her variants and does the rest of the work when they’re dead. at least she did help β3 and the latter sacrificed herself. her reaction time sucks so hard in this game smh
- there is no Sigurd from the Alphaverse. Singularity killed Midmyers Sigurd and shapeshifted into him to deceive Bayo and Jeanne
- Viola also gets Luka’s scarf (man did they desperately try too hard to be like DMC 5 in this game 😭)
Jeanne summons gomorrah in each game too
Pog new timeline to watch
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Okay?
It’s not the complete timeline tho wouldnt it have been easier to wait until cereza and the lost demon came out
They just need to recon the whole series after Bayo 3 tbh I feel like it ended with Bayo 2 tbh 🤷🏽
I'm curious if the Enzo here is the same Enzo from Devil May Cry.
I don't really know, but I do know that Dante, DMC's protagonist, has quite a lot in common with Bayonetta, apart from the fact that they were created by Hideki Kamiya.
The fact that bayonetta 2 is before bayonetta one and bayonetta 3 could be play in de middle of the two so that will explain some thing like why did bayonetta change and why do they already know themselve
SURPRISED THAT THEY DIDN'T MENTION ORIGINS!
You forgot to mention that bayo 3 is brave cereza from bayo one, the little girl.
No she's not
In future games, Viola is going to look for a way to bring back Bayonetta and Luka so she's going to ask Rodin to transport her to inferno. Rodin is going to refuse the request as he suspects she doesn't stand a chance to actually survive. Viola will then turn to Enzo to see if he could do anything or to see if he has any contact that might do it instead of Rodin. Enzo is going to remember Morrison and Dante from the DMC series and he's going to lead her to Dante's shop "Devil May Cry". When she get's there she will not find Dante but Morrison, since he's the one running the shop at this point. Lady and Trish will be out on a demon hunting mission but Morrison will give her the contact for Nero and Nico. After meeting Nero, she'll learn that who she's looking for is also trapped in inferno so Nero and Viola will somehow venture into inferno/underworld together and that will be the beginning to the long awaited crossover game "Bayonetta X Devil May Cry"
In Beyonetta 3, if they were going to introduce Faery stuff, why not make that the third enemy type. The Sci-Fi Homunculi look too Angelic to me. They could of made them bionic or cyborg-esk version of angels or demons or Frankenstein versions
Bayonetta 4 is just a cosplayer apparently, bayonetta 5 advanced animatronics. Bayonetta 6 a magical simulacra. Bayonetta 7 is a shapeshifted god.
*whew..thanks for clearing that up.
I came over to this side from DMC and I can see this series inspired the froggo in the church of dmc4
the baddest of the bad heroines
this is DBZ she will be back...
The Leaderboard, can you please do a video on 107 facts about SNK (Shin Nihon Kikaku)?
I like to think Bayonetta ended in 2 on that time loop and that's it.
Because oh god all of the writers for Bayonetta 3 should lose their right to work as writers XD
Also I would NOT be surprised if from all of the complaining of Bayonetta 3 plot, Platinum would take out of it that people didn't like the Multiverse aspect of it, and just ignore it ever existed while keeping on with Viola.
Which is just downright dumb, since we play Bayonetta because of Cereza, and who she is and how she act, there's no other reason xD They tried the devil may cry 5 approach but it feels like they gave 1/8th of the thought Capcom did on that game for Bayonetta's plot and how to introduce and make us enjoy a new character before forcing it on us.
Please do more videos like this.
Games with unexpected norse mythology
Lets see uh
Final fantasy 7
Now bayonetta
Wait so the last two bayonetta’s weren’t the same?
Bayonetta can transform a black bird and her hair transformed into a tornado and her clothes turned into a tornado too
Don't know if I'm alone in this, but I'm honestly not a fan of the Bayonetta 3 story/ending.
I've heard that bayonetta 3 is in a different universe than the first 2 but is close to the original and as well the first 2 are different but are very similar
No its the same universe as the first 2
@novustalks7525 yeah I think it is but still I really hope platnim just says something like this soon so we still have the real bayo
I don't like the idea of Viola replacing Bayonetta, so if they made a 4th game they better find means to bring the original Bayonetta from the first game
The protagonist from 3 is the same one from the previous 2 games
After all this time i dont understand why the angels are evil, are they corrupted or they are fake angels?
What makes you think they're evil?
@novustalks7525 because the game shows them as evil?
They should bring balder back
And what about Bayonetta origin?
I'm surprised they didn't mention that one.
THEY FORGOT 1 GAME!
RW:may need to update your vid dude
just finish the game today and see this video on my Recommended....... im assuming all 3 game is 3 different timeline... and we never actually play the same Bayo in each game, and i mean they can go Zelda route and make bunch of game in different timeline now
No its the same bayonetta in all 3
The bayonetta in bayonetta 3 and origins isnt the bayonetta from 1-2
Yes it is
Make A Faberistry Minecraft Timeline
I love Bayonetta 3 but I hated playing as Viola. Her controls/attacks sucked
Its hard to understand this all help xd
Bayonetta 3 does not exist. It has never existed.
We need 107 facts about Alan wake
do the 107 facts about Pokemon scarlet and violet
yes
messed up the timeline completely and no mention of origins whatsoever.
Well, seeing how in-universe how the timeline gets messed up several times, I don't even know where Cereza and the Lost Demon fits.
@@yellohammer8571 regardless of how messed up it is in universe it should have been included. the lore of the bayo universe was greatly expanded upon with origins and its a shame that it’s missing from this timeline.
@@yellohammer8571 also it’s seems like you never played origins. since the extra chapters directly tie into bayonetta 3
@@yellohammer8571 the Bayonetta origins fits into the separate timeline of brave cereza
@@Villanelle1783bayonetta 3 is not the young cereza
WHAT ABOUT BAYONETTA ORIGINS!
Does that mean bayonettas dead..?
I loved the first Bayonetta game the second Bayo game not really & the third one is ok. Like #515 BTW.
First🎉
No you're not.
Bayonetta 1 is damn good looking and worst is voila.... I don't want Voila being as bayonetta since bayonetta 1 is the reason this game have series due to her bad ass hot mommy looks
THEY FORGOT ABOUT ORIGINS!
The third game is such garbage. It broke the lore beyond repair.
That is exactly how I feel it doesn't even make any sense anymore it went so far off of its original storyline
Ll
bayonetta3 has smaller b o o bs than bayonetta 1 and 2
The first game on PS3 was amazing. The series went downhill so quickly after that I wonder if Nintendo had something to do with the decline? 🤔
Bayonetta 2 is the best by miles