80 year old Cat D2 Dozer with issues.. Worth buying or a can of worms??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2022
- This vintage 5j Caterpillar D2 was put up for auction at a clearing sale recently, nobody wanted it so I went to check it out. Its a cool old machine but is quite worn out and has some major issues.
What do you think its worth?
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Like an old hooker with new lipstick, not something you should take home!
good one 👍
Unless she's your mum
Aerosol overhaul.
😂
My screen was so bright looking at that
Looks like it's had the typical spray can overhaul.
hey , hey , hey...thats a PROFESSIONAL REBUILD right there!
Most surfaces look quite smooth for a spray can overhaul.
It makes it really hard to assess the condition with all that new paint.
First red flag... no wonder it didn't sell.
in housing terms this would be called a landlord special.
For Marty this is like seeing a lost puppy in the middle of the road for a regular person. But if the puppy wants $2500 to get in the car I think the puppy can manage on its own.
😭😂
Yeah, I'm kinda like Marty. I live in a vintage bus that is going to take more money than I'll ever have to get back on the road. So it's for sale and I'm downsizing to a crew cab ute.
i laughed way too hard at this
I don't know much about dozers, but that one looks like a lawn ornament to me. The fresh rattle-can rebuild is a huge red flag also.
The annoying thing I realized is how the paint hides the whole history of the machine. All of the marks and stains and hints about the quirks and eccentricities are gone, and it makes it harder to diagnose the parts that need fixing because you would see things like more worn down fasteners on the parts that acted up more often for instance, or the stains of a regularly leaking piston.
Yeah you don’t know anything quite true
Marty makes money by making them work on video.
@@El_Chompo Very true. The same with buying any vehicle it is worth more in its original state than a five minute spruce up.
@@El_Chompo Ya this is a parts machine that can drive itself on and off the trailer.
I'd base your offer on how full the tank is.
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq lol
Spot on, diesel at $2 a litre it could be worth a bit.
@@rogerbayzand4455 It's probably still the old stuff not yet contaminated with "bio-" selfdestructing admixtures, so even better ...
As mentioned, Squatch253 has a very detailed series covering the complete overhaul of a D2. In a recent video he mentioned that the engines ran low on oil pressure with no problems, so much so that Caterpillar released an updated oil pressure gauge with a lower acceptable pressure reading.
@squatch253 is the man for sure.
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@@Pilotman28 and he will tell you in that cond its a parts machine!
@@Pilotman28 He sure is
@@andrewslagle1974 He will tell you that half the machine will have to be stripped of that horrible paint first
Walk away! Just my humble opinion but every part of that machine looks like it's at or beyond its useful limit. I suspect they found it abandoned in a field/forest, got it running and gave it the old rattle can restoration for a quick sale. If you'd gotten it for free I'd say have a punt and spend a bit of money repairing/replacing parts but for 2500 new Zealand pesos no way...
That being said I do love watching you revive old girls like this, but I also don't want to see you waste your money.
Either way, good luck :)
Yeah, you'd need to strip it down and rebuild - ok if you're retired.
@@asya9493 But why?
This old girls working days are behind her.
It's a yard ornament for people who like that sort of thing.
Just a heads up I've had an old cat and they didn't have wet clutches but in thier manuals the way to free them is to put kerosene in in clutch housing and every year it would stick and every year kerosene lol. Finally I decided to leave the kerosene in the housing permanently and no more problems so I used it on both clutches and as far as I know it's still working today. I sold the machine to a neighbor and I see it running from time to time.
Comments like these make me love the internet. The odds of someone out there that remembers the technical quirks of 80 year old machinery catching this video.
@@AnonNomad Same
I wonder if that would work on my old 420 john deere
@@evananderson3350 Yes it will the most that you would want to do is drain the old kerosene or diesel out of the housing in a couple of weeks to get the initial rust and crap out of it. Just fill it to a level that's a couple of inches above clutches assembly so that as they're being used it slings the oil around. After a couple of drain offs you can fill it and forget it. Every year I would just have to put the dozer near a tree and every season just push against the tree until the clutches freed up then use it the rest of the year. Good luck 👍
A good one to pass on Marty. Lots of work, lots of expense and it'll still be a worn out machine. There's a better one somewhere out there. Nice day for a drive though.
I disagree.
100% agree. Unless you have time and $20,000+ to fix a worn out unit. This thing need a complete teardown, check out Pacific Northwest Hillbilly's project on an old dozer similar to this.
@@easttexan2933 Then, buy it !
@@marcryvon would you be willing to pay for shipping to Texas?
@@easttexan2933 You seem keen for other people to spend their money on worn out crap, why wouldn't you pay to get it shipped?
Squatch253's channel is the expert on Caterpillar D2 restoration.
And operation. What Squatch253 doesn't know about D2s isn't worth knowing.
The tip of tips.
Might start here - Squatch253 video on how to assess the value of a D2: th-cam.com/video/EzdZGTQ9Zhs/w-d-xo.html
Also he just ha a video on how Cat says the D2 will run on low oil pressure with no issues. That 10PSI is good.
@Jambo or the X231
Around here scrap value would be about USD500 today. If the steering clutch can't be saved it's going to cost USD400 in parts to replace it, maybe USD200 more to reseal the cylinder. Just from the video I'd be happy if it has 200 hours left in it before it's totally scrap/parts. I wouldn't want to pay more than USD10/hr (plus maintenance costs, of course) to use it, so USD10x200 hrs = USD2000 +USD500 scrap = USD2500 - USD600 in parts - USD500 worth of my labor = USD1400 that I would pay for it. Your numbers will vary, but that's how I like to price my projects that are for my own use.
The NZD2500 Marty is willing to offer is about USD1600 so not far off what you would be willing to pay.
the transport cost for heavy haul is already more than scrap value if you dont tear into it where it stands and send it directly to the scrap if its npot worth saveing
@@prinzeugenvansovoyen732 I think they are only like 8k lbs aren't they? I don't know the rules in NZ but around here that's not even pushing the limit of what your average guy with a 1 ton and an equipment trailer can haul.
@@KiwiExpressCream I assume parts prices, scrap price, and his labor will have different values than mine. I was just using myself in my locale as an example.
Good calculation, if parts and labour will double the buying price, it's hard to decide...
:-/
Straight off the top I have to wonder what the "Dulux restoration" was meant to conceal. Someone took a bit of trouble to do all that. Maybe she was in a vintage iron parade.
Those engines run on less than 10psi oil pressure as standard. I was recently watching one of Squatch’s vids where he was talking about it.
I came here to see if someone else mentioned this. Squatch talked about it in his last video.
that's good to know. i haven't watched that video yet. thanks.
Undercarriage parts for those old D2s are pretty much impossible to find these days. Even though it runs halfway decent, it's pretty much worth just scrap value due to all the issues.
almost need a second or third tractor just for parts now days look at what squatch253 goes through on the D2 he's rebuilding.
@@kevinhassett1891 True enough. And he’s always mentioning the scarcity of undercarriage parts.
I'm sure Golf, Golf and Hammer in ChristChurch has or can Recon parts!
Junk. Don't buy
The words "Dulux" and "Knackered" make this Irish guy living in the US feel in good company on the channel. Great content. Thank you.
Another you tuber, squatsh253, is in the process of rebuilding a Cat D2, also a 5J. About two weeks ago he did a video on oil pressure gauges and low oil pressure. He is quite knowledgeable on old cats.
A fine NZ gem commonly known as a “leaverite”. Leave her right where you found her!
If it's cheap and operates, it's worth doing some farm fixes and running it into the dirt. Absolutely not worth any real restoration/rebuilding though. Undercarriage is completely toast and new parts are nigh impossible to find.
Here's a thought Marty, drive it only to where you need to hook up stuff to that PTO, chipper, pumps, saw mill that Cat could power a lot of implements without pushing or pulling much. Even though the draw bar looked pretty good.
Yeah as a donkey engine it would be unbeatable IMHO
That, my friend has Mrs.T written all over it. Nothing says love like his and hers dozers!
$500-$1000 were my thoughts. There's an awful lot of work to make that dozer viable.
He should not go far beyond scrap price
@@frank-t6857 True. Then factor in the cost of cutting it up and transporting it so to me, it just looks like a massive pain in the butt.
500 to 1000 ? no way - they'd have to raise it to $5000 for me to haul it off
I wouldn't know if I could possibly rid them of that thing for 500,- only, given current diesel prices ...
500.00dollars ??that's it
More issues means reduction in asking price. Then you must decide the cost of your repair time and replacement parts are worth the effort. I have rarely regretted walking away and using my time looking for something a bit better.
The problem is finding the parts. D2 undercarriage parts in good condition are getting rare these days
they would have to be such a reduction to go negitive, and he have to pay you to take it off his hands. the parts alone to make that thing right are worth more than a good one.
@@thegreatchickenoverlord5976 Most times you can make your own parts. Bearing and spindles are easy to make. Sprockets might be a bit harder yet they might be a common size. Tracks can be made as they are very simple and even worn out tracks will still hold value for the right person as this machine may never see 500 plus hour put on it again. Lot of stuff just takes some thought in how to fix them. Pony motors can be replaced with new motors and new brackets made. All pony motors do is spin the Diesel motor up to speed to get it running and then disconnect the clutch.
@@nick4506 I was thinking offer the seller to haul it off for $599.95
@@kameljoe21 the tracks and sprockets aint so easy. they are cast and only used on the d2. also this guy is in newzeland the pool of parts on the island is small and shipping from anywhere is very expensive.
With old hydraulics being pressurised its good to wear wrap around safety glasses. If they blow under load they will blast a fine fluid mist everywhere. Also if the hyds into a valve blows and your hand is on it you can lose a bit of skin, so wear thick leather gardening gloves. Any old stuff like this - replace the lines asap !
If there's a microscopic leak in a hydraulic (or diesel fuel or any other high pressure liquid like paint in an airless sprayer) you run the risk of hydraulic injection, and you stand to lose a heck of a lot more than a little skin.
NEVER USE YOUR HAND TO CHECK FOR LEAKS IN SUCH SYSTEMS! ALWAYS USE A RAG ON A STICK! Hydraulic injection can lead to amputated limbs at a minimum, and possibly death by blood poisoning.
@@remcovanvliet3018 Yes ! I was talking about hand operated directional control valves - if these fail pressurised then the bits will fly at high speed and thats another way to lose a hand. And of course fully separated hoses flailing out pressure.
There is nothing good about old hydraulics and everything bad about them. The first thing to do with the unit in the video is a 100% strip of the hyds, and you'd guaranteed find some bombs.
As the song goes " just walk away René " 😂
I love this comment section. Somebody suggested bringing it to the nearest port. The guy who answered said: "For what? As an anchor?" lol. Cracked me up.
Dear Marty, this Cat was put up for auction at a clearing sale and nobody wanted it. I suspect the price is much too high. My advice: add up worst-case repair costs. If you can resell it at a profit -- make an offer. Best wishes, English John
I'd say more like about $1200 NZD or close to scrap value. Several years ago I bought a TD18A for scrap value that had a stuck steering clutch. I did a lot of work with it for a few years like that with no real problem. Because most dozer jobs are back and forth you just have to think ahead a little and steer going back or forward as need.
That paint job will have me running. I also laughed at how it was munching up the grass.
This is the vintage of Cat that my grandfather would have been very familiar with , he's been dead since 1953 .
I did look at this dozer at the sale.. also seen a crack in the weld on the back bade ram mount on right hand side. Along with all other issues. Hydraulic hoses pretty stuffed too.
Yes I noticed that crack as well as one in the front engine mount
Go for it mate. You probably don't need another dozer and yes it's a can of worms. Not to mention that $2500 is good coin to part with even if it is NZD...lol. But me like many others love your channel and are stoked to see you fix these lovely old gals. Can't wait to see the series!!!
No pressure Marty, but if you pass this old girls going to the scrapheap
I don't know how TH-cam monetization works, but eventually it would pay for it self just through the restoration videos alone
@@Matty.Hill_87 Maybe, but it'd take a long time...
@@noname-nd8ec i dont know just why you limeys think its all that bad!,,the sprockets are near new..it wont run 20 hours its whole life!what a bunch of lightweights you aussie limeys are!!
I love the idea of you taking the ol girl. A big commitment in money, time and head scratching. If all of your subscribers gave $1, that would allow you to do this project and maybe rebuilds or your other machines.
Marty, good luck with all the rain you all have been getting down under, best from Xenia, OH, USA!!!
Firstly remember, this was left behind at a clearing sale! It's going to cost them to get it hauled away!
We all know you could fix this (and enjoy watching you do it) but, at the end of the day, it's simple maths. Is the time and cost fixing it worth the end product?
Now, as I've mentioned before, I'm the first to subscribe to Jeremy Clarkson's theory of machinery having a soul, character, and the dulux restoration robs a lot of this.
Sadly, methinks this is no more than scrap, parts, "yard art" or someting for the kids to climb on.
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq The main one has shot bearings and crank.
@Ein Felder Do you know the machine or suspect due to low oil pressure?
@@MartyT I don't know the machine, but for mine the signs are bad - the oil is clean and sludge free, indicating it has been serviced (well, at least once recently), and the whole machine is 105% worn to an inch of it's life. It could be the bypass valve in the filter is open, if so would be quick and easy to fix, otherwise it's pan off, oil pump replace, bearing replace if the crank isn't toast. I wouldn't walk away from this one, I'd run.......
Yep, agree that the Dulux restoration robs it of a lot of its character. Yard art is a good description.
Offer them just above scrap or some other cheaper price. Not many people other than you could keep one of these running
> steering clutch
Would have to be a borderline free deal to make me pull one of those final drives off with how much snot is beat out of that undercarriage
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq
> each season
That means what he had was just sticking from just sitting a season without use. What we see here is a ratty old ugly beat up farm machine, so who knows why its stuck, how stuck it is, or how long its been stuck. Not to mention apparently a bunch of people have already looked at it and turned it down
Holy moley, this Cat would keep Squatch253 busy for a long long time !
Beautiful little classic machine 😊👍
Always the conundrum. If you do go with it you really gotta love the cat. It looks like a gamble if its on its last legs until it needs some major time commitment or might just hang on for a few more years by fixing the obvious stuff. The wife is going to point out that you already have the TD9 that pretty much does everything a D2 could as long as its not super tight spaces. Could be lots content depending on how your audience likes the fixing/resto vs using/enjoying machinery. Could also be a good excuse to buy/get sponsored for some cool tools like hydraulic line crimpers, lathe, welding stuff, sand or dustless blaster etc.. which could then help generate content for restoring/fixing/maintaining other heavy equipment. I would try to low ball him for a bit over lawn ornament/scrap value because the owner is probably ready to pay someone to take it away. You would be doing him and the tractor a favor. Fresh paint smells of weakness.
When you mentioned Marty's wife, the wonderful artist it suddenly struck me that this "Tarted up" D2 would be a gorgeous subject for her next painting; sitting about frame deep in her favorite bay or estuary as it melts until only the laquer shape of the old Cat remains. It almost makes me a bit misty just thinking about it!!!!!
I think it’s worth getting if you get it at the right price. She’s 80 years old and worn out. I’m sure I’ll be worn out too at that age. old Cats are so cool. Would be a good channel project
I love the paint job, shame about the dozer!, well done Marty!
Superb yard brush paint job!
time for bed, oh look, a marty t video.
I’m always impressed by the way you manage to sniff out all these old machines. Keep them coming mate
checking over that thing like a good doctor lol...
It's a hard one, Marty. Old house, old car, old tractor, old boat - are all money and time pits which only the person contemplating the purchase can decide if it's worthwhile. I have been burnt before by not doing sufficient (if any) due diligence and taking the vendor's word because he seemed a nice person. Once bitten, forever shy and a tad cynical! Col, B.ofI.
True words
How could you go wrong on this project? Other than everything possible being wrong mechanically, it does have a lovely spray can paint job. I might be tempted to take a pass on this sink hole for time and money.
Not spray can, This is likely a 5 gallon bucket of oil base rustolume yellow paint. Very likely they powerwashed it and hit a few places with heavy rust and then sprayed it thinking they could get 5k plus for it because it runs. Old machines with a good fresh paint job can bring an extra few thousand or more depending on the type of machine and style it is. Provided they do some body work to most common damaged areas.
@@kameljoe21 Its known in the tractor trade as a Rustoleum Tune-up
@@billsargent3407 😂😂
With the price of fuel. The cost of just getting this sad piece of iron home is something to consider.
@@assassinlexx1993 Well he already drove there. So its a wasted fuel anyways unless he is killing a few birds with the same trip.
For me its worth about 1k USD. It might run yet its worn out and that is with travel time. I am thinking another 1 to 2k to fix it for it to be able to work another 500 to 1000 hours.
I would say scrap value minus the costs for transport. To me it looks more like a parts machine, then one that still can be saved. Beyond repair. Everything seems to be worn at this machine.
I worked at CAT in Decatur,IL for 33 yr. I love Caterpillar equip. A fellow Pacific Northwest is rebuilding a D4 including a winch that has covered most of the
problems you identified. Good Luck.
Always wanted a 5J. My grandfather use to build roads and when he retired they also retired the 5J he ran. He bought it from the company and used it on his property. Several years later he sold it.
Marty, I found your videos recently and LOVE watching them. Hello, thanks, best wishes from Atlanta, Georgia!
Drove one years ago with a backhoe mounted on the back.Took it in some crazy places. Apart from the rope start she was a reliable machine.
The bright yellow colour is revealing more than it is hiding ;)
The beginning with the globe map was really cool. Would you show in the neighbor of where you started from that would be interesting. You don’t need to show from where you live just show from a near by town. I love maps and seeing where things are. There’s just so much history in it.
It's a runner alright. A "run for the hills from that hunk of scrap razor blades" runner.
😂
G'Day, mate! We thought of you at dinner last night. Grass-fed rack of lamb from New Zealand. Nice bit of tucka'.
"Dulux restoration". Love it!
Cheers Marty glad to see you back
For usable parts and scrap metal it’s worth $3,100NZD in the US. I’d give you $700NZD for the PTO, however shipping costs to the US nixes that deal. A good starting motor is like gold, especially for the parts. To find parts and fix this machine might cost you 2-3 times to buy as you paid for the machine, if you could find them. Those chain rails are toast, the pins and bushings definitely need to be replaced, might as well find newer chains. It would be worth parting out if you had a larger market to sell them.
When deciding how much to offer, make sure you factor in how much it'll cost to get it to where you'll be working on it, as well as the parts needed to update it. From comments I've read, it looks like parts would be a struggle to get, unless you want to throw the dice on fabricating some of them yourself.
No matter how much fun you'd have doing the restoration, I think this one's been used hard enough for long enough to deserve its final rest. The fresh coat of paint also inspires me to urge caution, since it'll conceal how much of the rust is old, and may be functioning as a cheap sealant over numerous pinhole leaks.
In the early days of the collection new items were picked up for between $500 NZ and nothing at all. I fear, as the poem puts it ''those days are gone away''.
In Sweden , Richard Andersson runs a TH-cam page called ''Yesterday's Machinery'' dealing with stationary plant and farm tractors. Prices seem to be rising there also but with the odd bargain. This will be the general case I suspect .
You can always tell a man who takes pride in his work by the big smile on his face when it fires up for the first time.
No paint required on the old girl, she looks sparkly. The engine sound solid with enough torque to push about concrete blocks on tickover.
At some point your going to have to build a museum for Marty's Mechanicle Museum (Agricultural Department).
With the list of work still required to be done 1800 NZD would be an offer he should jump at.
They were empty concrete blocks..!
You may already know of him, but Squatch253 is the man to watch for reference on everything Cat D2.
Yes hes a master of the d2
@@MartyT Kyle Christ (who also consults with Squatch) might have clues. th-cam.com/channels/C2ty-qkCCZ8dKIpFMlfPow.html
They would probably call this one a "parts tractor".
The Caterpillar Yellow 'tarting up' was clearly done to divert attention away from the serious issues this old workhorse has. I know you've got the skills to make it right, so as you said, only if it's at the right price. If you do nab it, I look forward to spending my Sunday mornings watching you resurrect it!
Hiya Marty. From a bloke who recently "invested" in 6 Oliver HG3's, knowing full well that getting one going is going to be tops, dollars come very much behind the absolute magic of getting into the "guts" of these old girls. The first one is "on site" and is a 1943 vintage, the next three have no ID plates on them, and are in unmentionable condition, the last two are somewhere in between. The other wee pet I purchased is a Bristol 25 with the Perkins 3.152 motor, she runs beaut after a spend of around NZ$500 on top of the NZ$2100 purchase price. There is nothing beats sitting on that old girl in a flat(ish) paddock in third gear at full throttle! Then her starter motor does a wee "cease to function", no worries! Where I'm coming from is this: sometimes it just ain't the money. Much pleasure cam be had fiddling with them, there cannot be a price tag on that! I love testing my "fix-it" abilities too, the tougher the "fix" the more pleasure gained. I'm old enough to know that sometimes not doing something is way more painful than actually doing it. Heart should lead in this decision!
You can tell Marty drives a NZ car as it has a Volcano 🌋 warning light on the dashboard!😜🤣
Great, at last an 'old machine' that is older than I am. It moves about as well as me, and is likely to leak its life fluids somewhat like me also. All it needs is some, (well, a lot of) TLC. It starts, stops and steers about as well as I do on two legs. However, it is full of lurch off and go, probably more than me.
first thoughts, someone's put a lot into hiding the problems
It’s so cute. But she seems to need a lot of work. That’s free or leave it transaction for me.
Now if you’re gonna do a restore video series I’ll be watching every episode with popcorn. 🤩
I'm glad you at least keep uploading bc I love watching these videos there such nice videos and helps me fall asleep listening to stuff I want to do
In this situation I would pass. Too much parts required to make it work safely on those steep hills. If you could fix idler, tracks, brakes fir cheap, then maybe it is worth it. Did not see the state of cylinder rods, but if they are good, maybe resealing could fix that too.
But if you want a bright and shiny machine, just respray one of your machines ;)
squatch253 has a 100 videos on rebuilding a J series D2 cat. Worth a watch to see what is involved in fixing the problems on that one. He he even gives part numbers and specs for all components.
I think even HE would pass on this one. There are so many parts that are no longer procurable that you need several parts machines to even think of taking this on. I'd say it should be a hard pass for Marty.
That’s a henky jenky dozer. And a money pit. Fun to watch it try to grab air when you engage the drive though. It would look good in a museum.
Great video 👍Marty on the plus side you will always find your way home left left left
Oil pressure is actually in the the Cat manuals running range . 4 to 6 psi, so 10 psi you're golden mate! Buy it for $2000.00 NZD. And home with it. Squatch253 has a couple of vids on D2s you might like...lol! Cheers from another fan of yours
"a couple of vids" 🤣
Marty definitely watch squatch253 for a complete to the last nut and bolt resto of that tractor. No idea how you would get parts there.. Those clutches and brakes are a big job
Never heard the pony run out of fuel and shut off. Cool piece of history
Yep I shut it off and it died
Marty, Great video! Thanks for sharing! It was a joy to watch your excitement!
That was rough. Nice video
Somewhere, there's an industrial park missing a display piece. Check if it's been stolen.
Getting to understand how a CAT dozer is put together could be fun, but the folk that seem to enjoy it are typically those with good access to parts.
Marty, you could repair a toaster and I would be excited. I think a lot of us would be excited to see restoration. I would definitely be tuning in to see how you do it!
I was 12 when I first drove a D2. That was 60 years ago. . Loved that cat. Would love to have one now . Well worth restoring I think. Yes it would be very spendy
Any old dozer is going to have issues. If the engine, steering clutches/brakes and running gear are decent then ur in good shape!! The hydraulic cylinders are easy to rebuild. I have a 1955 JD 40C logging dozer. Changed all the fluids, rebuilt the carburetor, remounted left track as it was on backwards (pain in the a__!!), electronic ignition, paint and a few other things…she roocks!! Good luck on your quest!!
Sometimes it's just best to walk away...🤣
I got burned once on a Fordson Major diesel.
Looked the part but turned out to be knackerd. The guy i bought it from put thicker oil in the engine to conceal that it had no oil pressure😅. Sometimes you learn the hard way. Keep up the great videos.
Greeting from The Netherlands.
Looks cool and the paint job makes it look nice but this one is the CAT MP model, Money Pit. Unless you have deep pockets to buy new parts I’d leave it well alone. Those rams will need rechroming as well as seals. That drive wheel with the very rough repair looks like the spoke next to it is cracked as well. The guys in the US spend big money fixing these machines, I can’t imagine what it will cost you to buy and freight the parts.
Good luck either way. Cheers Stuart.
From a standpoint of how much content you could get out of this thing I'd buy it. I'd love to see you bring this back to life.
Chris, you're cray ! This thing is'nt worth it's scrap weigh value ! 😳
Can't wait to see the rebuild video! I always enjoy those!
Nice that it runs. It can drive itself to the metal recyclers.
But the chains will fall of every 100 feet
I'd say it's worth a hair over scrap value where it sits. If the owner scraps it he'll still have to get it to the scrapyard and that's at least a couple hundred bucks. Definitely less than 1000$. With that said it would be a very interesting project.
My father just sold his d2 from the family farm in ruapehu district last year. Sold for 5k and was much better condition than this(only thing wrong with it was the clutch between the pony and main needed replacing if it was going to be a regular user), the blade setup was different as the side bars went all the way and wrapped round the back with a single ram at the back to a rollover bar.
sounds like a interesting setup!
:-D
Marty, I am so looking forward to follow along on this one. Regards, Bert from Alabama USA
Love the sound. My father had one but I can't remember it, but I can remember it's upgrade to the Cat D4C . My brother told me stories of skint knuckles, slipping rope in the frosty mornings.
The upgrade came with a cab, luxurious or what
They’re asking too much imo. The undercarriage is completely shot and all the blade linkage is too. Then add in the right steer not working and low oil pressure. It’s a restoration project mate
I've never seen a cylinder leak that badly....that was a gusher! Anything can be repaired, of course, it just depends on how much money and time you want to. I think if he's willing to take 1500-2000 NZD (that's about 1825 USD for those who want to know the conversion) I think it would be a good deal. Good luck Marty! 👍
1:58 check out the rod on the other side - completely corroded and useless. 2:45 right hand rod looks better, but is a gusher.
David, I think your rate is a bit off, it more like US$950-1280.
Math is definitely not your strong suit David. NZD .64 x 1500 = "$960 USD" .64 x 2000 = "$1280 USD"
@@jasonj5862 Unit converter from the Play Store.....not me. And notice I said ABOUT, I never said APPROXIMATELY
@@RangieNZ Again, I said ABOUT not APPROXIMATELY.......please read more carefully.
You gave it a workout. It pushed the blocks under pressure nicely. The tracks were tattered but didn't separate when you put it thru the moves.
My family had a D4 wide track and it could move the dirt.
If the price is right its a good project.
Tracks chains have seen better days.
Don't let Squatch see it...
In regards to the oil pressure being low, A youtuber named squatch253 had explained how once the engine is broke in they can run as low as 5psi at idle just fine. Most aftermarket gauges don't go low enough to show that low oil pressure.
Can check out his channel and he has a Playlist for his D2 that is getting a full mechanical overhaul. He has more knowledge on those machines then they guys that built them.
This is his oil gauge rebuild video. m.th-cam.com/video/Yu_NwnfJfyA/w-d-xo.html
Great Video Marty, thanks for sharing
Good paint job!