Doing an IBJJF Comp? Don’t Ignore My “Rule of 2”

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  • @RamseyDewey
    @RamseyDewey หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    My biggest gripe with the IBJJF is refs that cannot explain or justify why they make the calls they do, but will insist on a rule infraction, even though the rule book clearly disagrees with them. It's a minority of the calls, but I have seen it happen often enough that it's a problem.
    It's understandable because the rule book is 80+ pages long, with far too many stipulations for a normal human to be looking to out for on the fly under the stress of competition. But sometimes it seems like certain refs just want that long, long tournament to end more quickly and look for any reason to stop a match faster.

    • @SeaOrcRonnie
      @SeaOrcRonnie หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s that way for a reason. Watch how many athletes from smaller schools get DQ’ed vs. Atos, Aoj, etc..especially if you’re seeded on the lower end and about to cause an upset. The best shot you have against their corrupt system is to just compete no gi because it takes away many, not all, of their ability to say you committed an infraction.

    • @HKBoba
      @HKBoba หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh wow it's Ramsey! Fancy seeing you here

  • @CaleCoast
    @CaleCoast หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    So this isn't a gi check story, but at world master, everyone in our bracket had a dang black gi, including myself. I was told to put the gold and green belt on, so I removed my purple belt and put the distinguishing colored belt on. No problem.
    Well the table told me I had to wear both. I said no I don't. The ref then turned me back and made me put two belts on. I wasn't gonna argue with the ref.
    If I have to wear two belts, so should they. It's now an asymmetrical match. They have an extra grip and I have a bunch of cloth around my belly that nobody is used to having. Nobody trains with two belts.
    It makes no sense and I find it absolutely ridiculous.

    • @ervenwill
      @ervenwill หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same experience in a local IBJJF Open... I mentioned my opponent getting an extra grip and they stared at me blankly

    • @SeaOrcRonnie
      @SeaOrcRonnie หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s just South American corruption at its finest. Make a bunch of rules so we can pick and choose how to bully you. It’s nuts.

    • @catbangs276
      @catbangs276 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it's normal that they make you wear an identifying belt (not just IBJJF) over your colored belt. Sometimes I wear the extra belt and other times my opponent wears, and I don't really notice it. At one tournament, when they gave Kron Gracie the belt, he threw it to the ground and the ref made his less well known opponent wear it.

    • @willdallas53
      @willdallas53 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve done about 30 tournaments with half a dozen companies running them and I’ve never seen anyone cry about wearing two belts.

    • @ervenwill
      @ervenwill หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@willdallas53 yeah, in the end it didn’t make a difference, but I guess it just rattled me a little in the moment… I’m a creature of habit and it just surprised me

  • @ItsDave76
    @ItsDave76 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Completely agree. Let's not forget about their inconsitencies on the mat either.

  • @fitgma4290
    @fitgma4290 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Chewy, thanks for all your great videos. At 2023 world masters my sanabul gi pants didn't pass inspection because of the colored crotch area. I should have known, i guess. So I ended up sprinting across the convention center to find my teammate to borrow his pants. Sprinted back just in time. Passed inspection, took a couple deeeep breaths and got my mind right. This was the first competition that I had my mentality right, i had worked on it all year, so I got back in the zone and the running was a great warm up too! AND, BIG THANKS TO YOU, CHEWY, I finally had a takedown that worked for me, and I ended up winning double gold! I saw you at this years world masters and i wanted to thank you personally, but you were too popular, lol. Thanka a million!

    • @Chewjitsu
      @Chewjitsu  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Congrats on the takedown. Hopefully we'll have a chance to meet again in person someday.

    • @fitgma4290
      @fitgma4290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Chewjitsu Thank you! I hope so

  • @in2heat451
    @in2heat451 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Got dq’d this year at JJ con in Vegas. Blue piece of cloth in crotch.smh I had time to buy a new one but got on the mat with zero warmup. I’m a 64 year old white belt I wasn’t trying to get over on IBJJF

  • @thechaddad1609
    @thechaddad1609 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My very first competition was after training for maybe a month or a few weeks. I stepped out of the mat and I had no clue what I was doing, I was just wearing gym shorts and a t-shirt. The rest stopped me and told me I couldn't go out there cuz my shorts had pockets. So I had to run to the merch booth and buy a pair of shorts in less than 3 minutes and put them on. They let me compete, and I got my butt kicked

  • @martialartsvocationalschoo3319
    @martialartsvocationalschoo3319 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    No gi. No IBJJF, a friends black rashguard wasn't black enough.

    • @Chewjitsu
      @Chewjitsu  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I got that once too.

  • @xkidmidnightx
    @xkidmidnightx หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yes, the crazy late tournaments were the worst. It killed my enthusiasm for competing

  • @drcksl8583
    @drcksl8583 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've witnessed the IBJJF inconsistency first hand. At 2023 Masters Worlds, I was supporting a teammate and would watch his match and chat, get water, etc in the bullpen. During the bullpen times, we were often where they screened gis. There was distinct difference in application, depending on the screener. This was the bullpen for purple belts, so quite experienced folks. Interesting that more than one competitor had their first match with a specific gi, left the bullpen and then was told upon reentry their gi failed. When it was eventually my turn, I swear the screener just looked me over and gave me the ok. However, other teammates with the same gi were flagged for logo embroidery in the wrong location.
    One of the more interesting and funny stories was at a NAGA, where a teammate/buddy was just about to step on the mat for his no gi match. The ref said his shorts were not acceptable. It was surf style shorts and apparently the pocket was a no-go. He looks at me and them my shorts. He's like 6'-2" and 220 lbs and I'm 5'-8" and 165 lbs. . .uh, now way bro :D He ended up having to buy a pair from the NAGA table. Then later, I saw other competitors competing with surf shorts, or worse. I guess it was later in the day, so maybe because the stock was running low :P

    • @willdallas53
      @willdallas53 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can’t wear shorts with pockets in any competition. It’s universally banned.

    • @drcksl8583
      @drcksl8583 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@willdallas53 I mean I get that. Was pointing out others in the same competition on the same day were allowed to. Not saying anything beyond noting the inconsistency of application.

  • @shawng746
    @shawng746 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I will never support or even attend another IBJJF competition because of all the dumb and knit picky rules they keep coming up with. I think a boycott until they get the picture is in order.

    • @OffYourBackBJJ
      @OffYourBackBJJ หลายเดือนก่อน

      i make gi in all designs and colors. the ibjjf regulations are becoming totally ridiculous. other comps allow purple and green gis any colors, and most weaves. cant agree with you more! oss

  • @hatfidd5
    @hatfidd5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My first IBJJF tournament was World Masters this year as a blue belt. I wore my Origin Pro Pants with traditional draw string (not the clip). Origins' website says "IBJJF approved"
    The judge says "you can't wear these pants, no velcro".
    Thank goodness I had another pair of regular Gi pants. I half expected it for some reason (I don't know why) so it didn't throw me odd mentally too bad. I won my first match 🤙🏻lost my second.

  • @vicn1349
    @vicn1349 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Had my ref stop my match one second into the match to have the Gi checker reinspect my Gi sleeves. Also had a white belt from my gym get DQ’d for that same Origin Gi clip.

  • @ZOIMIBiIE
    @ZOIMIBiIE หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like to think he sits in that chair facing the class during rolls and drilling.

  • @Drew_jitzu
    @Drew_jitzu หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My girlfriend was competing, her pants were just a centimeter too short for the guy, I tugged her pants just a little bit in front of him and he let us pass. what a joke

  • @asianfrenzy666
    @asianfrenzy666 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is a common phenomenon known as "bike-shedding". The IBJJF gives the appearance they are progressing the sport through changes, but the changes they make are trivial for expanding the sport's presence.

  • @Blukoi1
    @Blukoi1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do think that ibjjf is probably one of the most well run tournaments but I agree that the uniform rules sometimes do get ridiculous. I have worn the same gi for every ibjjf competition since blue belt, I’m a purple now and I’ve had this gi checked at master worlds and it was fine but then at one of their opens the checker said the pants were too short. I do have long legs so maybe that’s it and I had the pants tied to my waist as usual but the inconsistency definitely messed things up. I also saw a woman in no gi wear the same shorts as me and was let through but then when they checked mines they said it was too short, so granted it might be bc my legs are long but still I didn’t think it was fair.

  • @LGOP528
    @LGOP528 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There are different rules for the competitors that are made in America too.

  • @sethmiller5414
    @sethmiller5414 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SO funny you say that about times of non-IBJJF tournaments -- I remember NAGA east coast championships -- was supposed to compete at 5pm -- didnt step on the mat until 11 pm. It was crazy.

  • @JoP213
    @JoP213 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    2022 No Gi Worlds I had a purple Shoyoroll rashgaurd with yellow writing and a yellow stripe going down the side from my armpit to the waist and the checker said I couldn’t wear it because of the yellow is kids color. I’m competing in Master 2 Super Heavy purple. I don’t even think kids we’re competing at my time but I always do the 2 option rule so I was able to compete getting 3rd in my division and 2nd in the open

    • @garydavies7198
      @garydavies7198 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Surely this is down to you not understanding the stipulated colours and the rules rather than IBJJF incontistencies? The rules are clear "Both genders must wear a shirt of elastic material (skin tight) long enough to cover the torso all the way to the waistband of the shorts, colored black, white, or black and white, and with at least 10% of the rank color(belt) to which the athlete belongs. Shirts 100% the color of the athlete’s rank (belt) are also permitted"

    • @JD2jr.
      @JD2jr. หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@garydavies7198 But that's a stupid rule. If it's not dangerous and it doesn't give you an advantage, who cares what you're wearing? It's not like judo where they have you wear different color gis to differentiate the competitors. You're in the same division, having different colors makes it easier to tell what's going on.

  • @blackanviljiujitsucompany1993
    @blackanviljiujitsucompany1993 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loaned my back up gi out multiple times … I remember having to talk my way past gi check 3 events in a row at purple because my belt was frayed .. I kept pulling the im about to be promoted card … that was 2012-13.. first ibjjf .. 2007 pans at blue I think maybe 06.. the old days …

  • @Good.shepherd420
    @Good.shepherd420 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I got 2 minutes into my first match before the ref stopped the match and switched my opponent out for a fresh one and was like oops wrong guy.

    • @OffYourBackBJJ
      @OffYourBackBJJ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      wow thats insane

    • @martialarborist7918
      @martialarborist7918 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who spoke Portuguese? Was it the opponent they swapped out, or the one they swapped in?

    • @muysantos2859
      @muysantos2859 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no way wtf

  • @zerotoguitarhero5023
    @zerotoguitarhero5023 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yep, I was on a three match win streak, completely freaking out because it's the first time I had even scored a point in comp, nevermind finishing people. Then an official comes up to me with the most serious demeanour in the world about how I have to change my shorts to black or be DQ'd. Threw my mental off big time

  • @polarbear9999
    @polarbear9999 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ohh yeah been there done that........i was at Europeans 2023 in paris and fought in a sanabul gi the black with the red i was aware that it might fail the gi chek because it has some red on the pants. but they passed me at the gi check and let me compete in my first 2 matches. then for some reason they changed the ref before the semi final and even brought us on to the mat and let us start. but then he stops the match 30 seconds in and told me that i couldent wear the gi and i had to run out change the gi........i end up loosing the semi´s....... i am not not gonna say that i lost because of that. but it defenitely diddent help........peace chewie

  • @vaderdust
    @vaderdust หลายเดือนก่อน

    At World Masters last year, I went through the gi check with full length spats under my gi. I won my first match, but the ref told me that I wasn’t allowed to have full length spats on. I didn’t have shorts, so I had to roll my spats above my knee for my second match. It constricted my movement and wasn’t something I was used to. Not saying that it was the reason for my loss in the second match, but the mental aspect definitely played a role. Ever since then, I’ve stopped wearing full length spats and only wear compression shorts underneath.

  • @aaroncrothers3603
    @aaroncrothers3603 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This year at master worlds they wouldn’t allow my belt bc it was a little worn. I ran over to the Kanji booth and got a new one. Ran back and the guy said it was 1/4 inch too long. My coach had to tie the most ridiculous knot as I was completely pissed. They let me in finally.

  • @ludoka58leo
    @ludoka58leo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a former Judo competitor i remember well Gi checks...

  • @uknowwhatimsay
    @uknowwhatimsay หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was in a BJJ tour tournament. The guy i was supposed to go against got stopped for having a dime sized hole in is top near the bottom. Mind you he already had a match. He was told he needed another Gi, so he is able to borrow one from the guy he just went against. But…now his top and bottoms don’t match. He cant compete and decides to leave so I didn’t get my match. Story doesn’t end there though. He comes back for No Gi. We’re by the scales checking our weight. He asks why are we checking. He misses weight by 1 pound because he went home and had too much to eat.

  • @BJJJUDO
    @BJJJUDO หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always bring 3. My lucky gi, my backup and my backup backup. Went through with my lucky gi, won the first match then a ref from a different mat made me change before my second match just before it was about to start.

  • @shaftsburry1773
    @shaftsburry1773 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My last tournament told me I couldn’t wear my shorts because they had pockets. Basketball shorts, they were perfectly fine for the tournament before but in the end I just had the rash guard.
    Good thing I wear the long pants and shirt lol.

  • @christophervelez1561
    @christophervelez1561 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got rejected because my blue belt was too worn so I had a second belt that I only use for competition.

  • @iamgiliberto
    @iamgiliberto หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was DQd at PANS for my Origin Maine Pants (The velcro). Here is the best part... I passed gi check. I won my first match and 2 minutes into my second match, the ref noticed the velcro and coordinator DQd me.

  • @kevinomahoney
    @kevinomahoney หลายเดือนก่อน

    Origin includes a traditional string with their pro pants.

  • @lionhardt13
    @lionhardt13 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At the Virginia Open, I passed the gi check but my buddy didn't. We got our gi from the same place, but they wouldn't let him compete in that gi because there was too much reinforcing stitching on the sleeve. I guess the IBJJF changed the rules on reinforcing allowed on the sleeve. It was dumb. My buddy had to buy a gi right then and there. At least he went on to win.

  • @WhatsMyNameAgain93
    @WhatsMyNameAgain93 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've got a tournament coming up that uses a mixed ruleset from IBJJF and AJP. They have veryyyy different gi rules so I have no idea what counts 😂 And better yet, I have 2 gi, same design just two colours. One is "comp legal" according to the website and tested with IBJJF, the other colour is not. They're the same damn gi

  • @rabanebunu
    @rabanebunu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back in the day, 10-15 years ago, IBJJF was basically the only comp around, especially in Uk. They used to get away with loads of things like this. Now, it is not even worth competing for them. At least for me 😂

  • @smnbjj80
    @smnbjj80 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is only a matter of time they start selling and IBJJF Gi that you have to buy and wear to compete.

  • @espin7795
    @espin7795 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I've never competed in BJJ, but I was an amateur boxer for a pretty good amount of time. I was in a competition one time (LBC) for those that know, and I wore a plain white tank top. They told me that I couldn't wear that to compete, and I had to match the corner that I was fighting out of (blue or red). However, months earlier I was competing in a NATIONAL tournament where a well known and accomplished was obviously competing in. Guess what he wore thrown the tournament....yup...a plain white tank top.

    • @espin7795
      @espin7795 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *fighter and throughout...auto correct got me y'all

  • @kwazadi138
    @kwazadi138 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ibjjf is suposed to be the top event that they should keep it simple. Everyone bring 2 gis, one white and one of colour, all in minimal logo to plain cloth. Thats it.

    • @SeaOrcRonnie
      @SeaOrcRonnie หลายเดือนก่อน

      They’ll still F with you because they’re corrupt.

  • @mamabearthrives7815
    @mamabearthrives7815 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got dq before i even left my house, i will NEVER compete in ibjjf. It killed my enthusiasm to even compete. 🤷‍♀️👎

  • @stevecolvin1234
    @stevecolvin1234 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to see you give some advice on when a person is ready to go from local/regional competitions to IBJJF. If I understand right, doesn't your gym have to be a member of IBJJF in order for a person to be able to compete?

  • @selfridingmotorcycle9948
    @selfridingmotorcycle9948 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Prisoners make shanks out of plastic. Long time watcher here Chew I'm subscribed and love your channel but plastic can actually be dangerous

    • @Chewjitsu
      @Chewjitsu  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah. . . but origin doesn't put a shank in their gi. It's s smooth piece of plastic.

  • @AndersRosendalBJJ
    @AndersRosendalBJJ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't sign up and pay money to people only trying to stop you from competing.
    That's too dumb.
    There are much better competitions.

  • @DonGately
    @DonGately หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:15 I see people fail the no gi check literally every tournament.

  • @hermanmelville3871
    @hermanmelville3871 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your chances of passing the gi check are directly related to which passport you’re holding.

    • @Chewjitsu
      @Chewjitsu  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hermanmelville3871 😂

  • @haroldlee4037
    @haroldlee4037 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lady in our gym was DQ'd from a gold medal match at PanAms because her tinted sunblock left a mark on her opponent's gi.

    • @xkidmidnightx
      @xkidmidnightx หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Why was she wearing Sunblock inside at a tournament? Lotions and stuff should absolutely be banned.

    • @AndersRosendalBJJ
      @AndersRosendalBJJ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah. Maybe don't wear makeup at a comp 😂

  • @slowdown3415
    @slowdown3415 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you wearing slippers Chewy ?

    • @Chewjitsu
      @Chewjitsu  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah.

  • @martialarborist7918
    @martialarborist7918 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Or you could just not compete in IBBJF because they're awful and show blatant favoritism towards brazilians. The countless petty rules are all just there to give their refs an excuse to DQ anybody that doesn't speak portugese.

  • @ItsPandatory
    @ItsPandatory หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its fair to blame the org because they should be held responsible for vetting and training their staff but the inconsistencies in the gi checking comes down to personnel. The gi checkers are usually local guys that do it infrequently, maybe just once a year when the ibjjf tournaments come through.
    I ref and the instruction i recieve is that I'm ultimately responsible for what happens on my mat. If the 17-year-old gi checker thats not paying attention let something weird through i'm supposed to stop it, even if I don't notice until the middle of the match. People are recording every match and when they lose some coaches will go to the head ref to complain about any little thing to try to get their guy back into the bracket. "The opponent was wearing an illegal pants clip and shouldn't have been allowed to compete and..."

    • @SeaOrcRonnie
      @SeaOrcRonnie หลายเดือนก่อน

      They suck and their reputation is already ruined. If won’t be long before they go away. Every dog has its day.

    • @garydavies7198
      @garydavies7198 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn't matter if Gi checkers are 17 years old, or doing it infrequently. If they are employed to do a job, they have to get it right. From your perspective there should be no need for a referee to do a gi checkers job. However, if you are told as a referee you are ultimately responsible for what happens on the mat but don't notice a rule infringement until half way through the match then you aren't doing your job correctly either. The competitors are paying on average $130/£100 per event. The IBJJF needs to get the training sorted, the rules clarified and ensure it's employees are consistent in application of those rules.

  • @ynnkm8573
    @ynnkm8573 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No fun league

  • @travisjxxx
    @travisjxxx หลายเดือนก่อน

    Origin makes the greatest gis