The MOST CONTROVERSIAL JERSEY NUMBER in Baltimore Ravens HISTORY | Scott Mitchell (1999 Ravens)
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- In 1999, Baltimore Ravens quarterback Scott Mitchell announced that he was going to wear the #19 jersey. Turns out, by announcing that he was wearing this number, originally worn by Baltimore Colts legend Johnny Unitas, he caused a giant controversy that, in the eyes of many people, made him public enemy number one in Baltimore. This is the story behind Scott Mitchell, the 1999 Ravens, and the controversy behind the jersey and uniform number
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Fun fact about Tripucka: Manning was going to wear #16 with the Broncos, but Frank Tripucka himself contacted the team and asked them to take his number out of retirement so Manning could wear it.
Manning still should not have worn it. Ray Bourque could have continued to wear #7 after it was retired by the Bruins, yet he skated to center ice and removed that jersey to reveal his new and legendary #77. Joe Montana did not wear Dawson’s number in Kansas Ciry.
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That's what I was going to say, he contacted Manning as well to give him the blessing to wear the #18. JJ Watt contacted Goldberg's daughter to use his number which she blessed as well.
as A Broncos fan it doesnt bother me Manning is HOF and clearly the better # 18 yes Tripucka was hired as an assistant coach in Denver he then Played 4 Seasons in Denver yes it was great he was our first starter but Manning Gave us our 3rd Superbowl and set Records in Broncos Country Manning is the better 18
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What is so funny about this story is that the name "COLTS" is never mentioned in Baltimore anymore especially when Indy comes to play on the road, because the PA announcer at the Ravens' stadium calls them "The Indianapolis Professional Football Team" due to their hatred of the Colts relocating in the middle of the night.
Trying to enforce Eminent Domain was classless, as well, neither, side looks particularly good here, blowing, "Ghost To The Post," meant that they were, already, on borrowed time, no doubt.
I would’ve love to here what the announcer would’ve been like if the Super Bowl was there in Baltimore in 2020 or 2021 and it was Washington vs Indianapolis.
and i knew fans in md. that said colts fans didn't become skins fans after colts left md.
@@matthewdaley746 bert jones playoff years pre injuries was the last hurrah for balt. colts. irsay was probably too drunk to understand e dom laws.
@@stevenbauer4799 Fair enough, but, once the, possibility, existed, his hand was forced, the phenomenal success of Washington was another factor in their departure, however, indirect.
So since Scott Mitchell is the only Raven to ever wear #19 for the Ravens, that means that they retired the jersey as Scott Mitchell's number.
I guess.....LOL. He always wore #19 everywhere he went. His misfortune was being traded to the Baltimore Ravens. Had he gone to the New Orleans Saints none of this is an issue.
Yeah just like the Bears 7 was for Avellini instead of Halas. 😂
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If Johnny Unitas told Scott Mitchell it was cool, then case closed imo. If we are to consider Baltimore Ravens numbers 'Baltimore' numbers based on Unitas's opinion, then Unitas's opinion on his own number has the same authority. If it's his number, he can do what he wants with it. It's not blasphemy; technically it's ordained.
Couldn't agree more. I'm as big a Unitas booster as anyone: STILL the GOAT in my book. If Johnny says it's okay, Baltimore fans should respect that. No matter how good (or AWFUL) Mitchell was, his intent was to pay homage, not compare himself, and that's more laudable than not.
johnny unitas is part of the colts records, the ravens are a completely different franchise.
@@tinakane4451 It's a little more nuanced than that when it comes to Baltimore because of the circumstances under which the Colts left.
@@richardadams4928 how could u possibly think he the goat and you have seen tom brady?
Rest In Peace to great Johnny U but he is no Tom Brady. This coming from Giants fan who also loved Ray lewis’s ravens
@@RELLertainment Unitas played in a league that Brady couldn’t have survived in, literally. Unitas also revolutionized the game. Led the first 2 minute drive and won the first overtime playoff game. He was Montana in the 50s and 60s. He also was a big part of Dan Fouts success as well as he served as his understudy in his final year.
We didn't boo him because he wore 19. We booed him because Scott Mitchell was a horrible quarterback.
thats why he was a horrible QB lol.
that makes sense 😄
No, we definitely were booing him for wearing 19, we were rightfully hating on him before he ever even took a snap, the disrespectful bum.
@@Reginald-Montgomery-Astird-III Exactly. As y’all should’ve
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The second I saw the number and logo, I knew what this controversy would be.
Haha, I am literally facing a Johnny Unitas McFarlane figurine as I'm writing this - it's on the a shelf above my desk ;)
Same.
Of course the other QB in that game was also making his first start for his team. His name was
Kurt Warner. Things went a bit better for him.
This is funny because I just got a custom #19 Unitas Ravens jersey made last year to honor his legacy because Unitas always stuck with the city of Baltimore over the Colts franchise when they left in the ‘80s.
That is an awesome Jersey idea. Man.
being in baltimore i actually never heard about this controversy probably because i was born this year and wasnt really an avid football fan until the late 2000s, but as soon as i saw that #19 i knew what this was gonna be about, unitas' legacy remains here and is prevalent just about whereever you go in this city.
Is it really? Like I’ve been a Baltimore fan most my life and lived in the city for about a year, and I feel like the Ravens at this point have supplanted whatever the Colts meant to the city. Two Super Bowls, a lot of wins.
I could imagine this hurting more at this point in the franchise (and what an interesting time. The NFL has never wanted a franchise in Baltimore, and at this point they could have become anyone. They could have become an offensive powerhouse, but the chips fell another way) but…it seems kind of silly now.
@@dstinnettmusic well any colts stuff isnt around anymore, its just a bunch of Unitas memorabilia and tributes within the surrounding counties.
Unitas legacy? What happened to Lance Alworth's legacy when Unitas was traded to the Chargers and was given Lance's number?
AND, there were no two teams associated with #19, unlike in Baltimore
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You were born this year? Dang, you’re way smarter than my stupid babies
Not only did Scott Mitchell get benched after throwing the pick 6 vs. the Bengals, he got demoted to 3rd string behind Charlie Batch and Frank Reich. Interesting fact: Mitchell's last game as the 3rd string in Detroit was against Baltimore....it makes you wonder if he didn't meet with the team during that game
I could see it. NFL seems like it was way more shady when less people had 50mega pixel cameras in their pockets all the time.
So Baltimore had 3 former Lions QBs…. Wow
As a unfortunate die hard Lion's fan I hate Scott Mitchell and the organization for getting him . It set them back for years.
And Frank Reich would become coach for the colts
@@johna9994 Scott Mitchell, Stoney Case...not sure who the third guy is.
Unitas always said that he never played for the Indianapolis Colts. He was a Baltimore Colt. He also invented the 2 minute drive in the 1958 NFL Championship game. Jonny U tops my list to this day as the greatest quarterback who ever lived. Montana just following.
Otto Graham and Unitas share the title because Otto mentored Johnny
@@happybeingmiserable4668 umm no he didn’t.
It reminds me of Jerry Rice when he went to Seattle. Number 80 was retired for Steve Largent, but they unretired it for him. Fans were upset until Steve Largent step forward and admitted he WANTED Rice to wear the number, the fans went quiet.
Which is funny to me, Rice was the greatest player ever by that point. If one person can take any number they want its him, If Jerry wanted Matt Hastlebacks number hed get it... rules be damned
Largent was good BUT he wasn't God. Unitas was.
I live in FL and I got a good story. I'm only 35 now but in about 3-4th grade we had a substitute teacher come in, he was an old man named Earl. Earl introduced himself and told us his story that he used to be Johnny Unitas backup QB. On his hand he had a Baltimore Colts SB ring. Me and my buddy in class liked fb so we at some point went up during class and got his autograph and talked football. #15 Earl Morrall Baltimore Colts it said. Now I had this autograph in an old elementary school backpack up until my early 20s it somehow got thrown out or w.e. I just at some point several yrs ago thought about it and looked up Unitas backup since now we have computers unlike when I was a kid. What did I find!? Earl Morrall was the 2nd overall pick by the 49ers in 1956, is a two time all pro, two time SB Champion and one time league MVP. He lead the Baltimore Colts to a SB as a sub and won League MVP in 1968. Guess what his other SB was with the Undefeated Miami Dolphins as he was a sub for Griese and went 9-0 leading them to win the 1972 SB along with another pro bowl nod. So it turned out or old Substitute Teacher is also the GREATEST SUBSTITUTE QB ALL TIME! I thought about this when I was watching your video because one clip at the 9:22 mark shows the colts and the QB is number 15 not 19. That was Ole Earl Morrall!!!
Earl morrall had a good year in 68 when Unitas was hurt, but I think the SB against the Jets if Unitas played half the game it would have been a different game.
@@jackwillis6867 Unitas was the best but Earl was the best sub ever! Lol
However he either blew it or threw it against the jets. Colt players themselves said he took a dive. That team was superior in every way against NY.
As a Dolphins fan I can't imagine anyone else wearing the #13. I was shocked seeing some other Dolphins wanting Tagovailoa to wear it when he was drafted. No matter what you think of Tua he isn't better than Marino
Imagine if Mitchell wore it too
Edit: No bc they were on the dolphins at the same time.
Yeah and i dont think marino would have been cool with that. Tua is pretty good, but he isnt in the same universe as marino was. And never will be
@@herogibson how tf do you know?
Tua is entering his 3rd year lmao wtf are you taking about 😂
@@__yklim Because it's Dan Marino
We don't need a 16 minute video for a clear cut answer:
No. 19 in Baltimore belonged to Johnny Unitas and Baltimore fans were not happy about that
When I learned about his decision to wear #19, I had a hunch I might hear your famous catch phrase, and that’s exactly what happened at 14:24.
Honestly, it sounds to me like the fans were being more disrespectful to Unitas than Mitchell was. Mitchell had the decency to ask the man himself and got permission, whereas the fans and sportswriters simply decided by fiat that they were now Johnny Unitas's spokespeople without even talking to him.
Mitchell may have sucked, but if anything, I think this was a shameful display by the city of Baltimore.
Johnny Unitas was the first superstar in the history of the national football league. It all started when the Baltimore Colts defeated the New York Giants 23 to 17 on December 28, 1958 which was the first football game ever to go into overtime. And along with Super Bowl III is one of the two most important football games in the history of the NFL.
Sammy Baugh was the first “Superstar” of the NFL. Even Red Grange would enter the conversation. Unitas was the first modern QB not the first “superstar”.
I say this as a kid who’s Dad was a huge Untias and before that a Baugh fan so I revered both as a kid and still do..
@@markmiller3308 Sammy Baugh and Red Grange were certainly great players but not superstars for one reason. The NFL was not a major league at the time they played. And it was not on national TV until very late in Sammy Baugh’s career.
The only professional sports that really mattered in this country and the first half of the 20th century were baseball, boxing and horse racing. Yes there were pro football fans but nothing like there was after John Unitas came along.
In my original comment I pinpointed the exact date when the NFL became a major league in this country. December 28, 1958.
@@shackdaddy7106 Sammy Baugh appeared in multiple movies and was very well known. Not arguing that baseball was ahead of the NFL but by saying “it wasn’t on tv” makes no sense in that how did baseball players get famous without TV? Can’t claim that the NFL had no famous players because of a non-existence of something then say the complete opposite about some one else. Oh, wait..It’s the effing interwebs where no one admits they’re wrong.
@@markmiller3308 As I have said baseball was the.only professional major league sport in this country in the first half of the 20th century.
At that time baseball was being played all over the country. You had the two major leagues. And the Pacific coast league which was an effect almost a third major league. And the Negro leagues. Plus hundreds of minor-league teams.
In the days before TV, baseball was covered a lot more by the newspapers and was on radio on a daily basis. And there is no doubt that baseball is better on radio than football.
And there is no doubt that football is better on TV than baseball.
Although I think football is good on radio also because they are both stop and start sports. You have a pitch or play and then a break in the action when the announcer talks.
Relatively speaking baseball was more popular than the NFL is today.
Pro football was not a major league sport. There is no such thing as a minor-league superstar. No matter how good they are.
College football was far more popular than professional football. In fact that’s where Red Grange became famous as the galloping ghost for the University of Illinois. And he was and still might be the biggest name ever to come out of college football. But after his first year of the NFL, He did not do that much.
Also when Red Grange played in the NFL, The league was barely organized. It was just a group of teams playing each other without a set schedule. different number of games for teams and no championship game.
@@shackdaddy7106 you are how old, again?
Scott Mitchell was IMO never the same after his meltdown against the Eagles in the '95 wild card game.
37 points weren't adequate.
Sad...sad...sad game
33.6
also didnt help, that the Ravens fan base treated him like ass. from day one over a stupid number.
Loved dat game GO BIRDS 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Do a video on Jamal Lewis running for 500 yards in two games against the Browns in 2003.
FTR, the kid to whom you referred at 1:45 was/is Jeffrey Maier.
Yes. As an Orioles fan, I still hate that kid... and the guy who hit that ball. I kind of hope in a way whomever didn't vote for the guy who hit the ball was from Baltimore and didn't vote for him out of spite.
@@mrmoose6619 Whoever he was.
Still remember Tony yelling at the ump
gawd i hate that f%&kin kid
Maybe they thought that giving Scott Mitchell #19 would turn him into Johnny Unitas.
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Yeah was more like johnny manziel than johnny unitas.
Bahahahaha
Mitchell was Marino's backup starting in 1990 in Miami, looking like a career backup (eight passes in first three seasons) until Dan ruptured Achilles in week six 1993. Mitchell became starter until he separated his shoulder (yielding to Jags HC Doug Pederson and Steve DeBerg before closing out the campaign with a few uneven performances). He was October 1993 player of the month and despite the insanely small sample size of just seven starts, he sparked an insane free agency bidding war that the Lions "won." It looked like Minnesota had Mitchell locked up at 3yrs/10.5m and 2.5m signing bonus. One of their coaches said publically he's better than Favre, who had just made back to back Pro Bowls and about to sign his first restricted FA deal w GB. But Detroit's reliable backup Erik Kramer, their fallback in chasing Mitchell, shocked the league when the Bears snagged him for 3yrs/8.1m. Detroit panicked and upped their original offer (3yrs/7.5m w 900k bonus) to Mitchell to 3yrs/11.25 and a whopping 5m bonus; spurred on by rumblings of counter offers from Rams and Saints. By comparison, Barry Sanders (dominating the game since 1989) was playing under a 4yr/17.2m deal and 2.1m bonus. It's unfathomable how Mitchell got paid this much for doing so little. But I guess it happens when you sit behind a legend, take over for a handful of games and keep the ship afloat. Obviously as you saw his Lions career was less than stellar. One funny story that's up for debate is Lomas Brown ridiculously admitting on espn in 2012 that he was so fed up with Mitchell's poor play in 1994, he tanked on a block on Packers Sean Jones who ended up knocking Mitchell out of the game in Milwaukee, when GB was up 24-3.
OT, but, Doug Pederson's time, with, the Eagles may have really ended terribly, but, he, (and, Nick Foles), both, got the job done, simple as that.
To this day I call a backup QB looking great his first few starts before being figured out and coming back down to earth the Mitchell Effect.
@@matthewdaley746 Hey, I can see your comments again! 😄😄😄
@@DolFan316 Great theoretical name, seriously.
@@DolFan316 Random deletion returns, drat.
He made his reputation off of backing up Dan Marino.
The things that got me most of all was how bad Mitchell is/was at that point in his career. The guy was stealing money for many years. 1 good year with Miami + 1 good year for Detroit = millions apparently. Nobody ever would think Mitchell is the 2nd coming of Johnny U.
$50 million dollars for Matt Flynn after that? I'm just sayin'.
@@ahplaya2dolla nice call. Flynn got that without even pointing a gun at anybody. Who do think was better, Mitchell or Flynn? Probably can put big old Brock Ostweiler in there too I guess.
Mitchell was so good for Miami that year there was talk of the Dolphins trading Dan Marino while they still could get something for him. I honestly think Mitchell gets a raw deal. At the end he wasn't a great quarterback but for his first few years in Detroit he wasn't bad and had glimpses of being a great QB. It all depends on your expectations I guess. He put up some big numbers with Herman Moore. He made the playoffs. Detroit was relevant to a degree. They were never in the Super Bowl discussion but they were always in the playoff discussion. I just don't get a franchise that's been so bad who hates on one of the only quarterbacks to have any success over the last 20 or 30 years there. I guess it comes down to expectations again.
I will say this, I was alive then and watched Detroit and they were an exciting team with him at quarterback in that era. Mitchell kind of reminds me of Ryan Fitzpatrick. You didn't know if that dude was going to throw for four or five touchdowns or three or four interceptions. You knew he couldn't win the Super Bowl but you knew he could probably get his team to the playoffs.
@@christopherengel7436 Hey at least Mitchell took the most snaps after stealing the money.
Honestly, I didn't know about this controversy. Also, Irsay would still be the most hated (at least among older generations). And, Jeffery Maier, (the kid who caught *that* ball) did a bad thing. But, I put that more on Richie Garcia, the ump who called it a HR.
Peter Angelos has entered the chat...
I'm just glad he didn't say it cost the Orioles the ALCS, as so many do. They forget that it tied game 1 which the Yankees went on to win, but the Orioles won game 2.
@Craig Cavaliere Only to be actually ump-cheated out of the pennant the next year, when the 2-out home run that cost them Game 2 (win that they go up 2-0 and with the momentum and Mussina going in Game 3 and almost certainly win that game and the series) came after strike 3 was called a ball.
Johnny U and Scott Mitchell. “One of these things is not like the other”
If memory serves well there were rumours that top draft pick rookie WR Breshad Perriman would be wearing #19 when he was drafted in 2015. He could not ask for Unitas' permission as he sadly had died by then. Maybe the Ravens remembered the Mitchell fiasco, as Perriman eventually got #18. Perriman went on having #19 with most of his other teams: the Jets, the Bucs, the Lions and the Browns. But not with the Ravens.
One of the few times it could be said that the Lions hosed another team.
Love the Jeffrey Maier reference. Great video as always
Loved the Diamondbacks, seriously.
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This seems a little ridiculous. The Ravens weren’t the Colts so I think this was a whole lot to do about nothing.
Part of the stereotype, which actually is based on fact, that Baltimore is full of idiots.
That's one way of looking at it, and a way that can be considered logical. I think if Mitchell was good at that point (he actually wasn't THAT bad, just not great, but I did see him run a few smooth 2-minute drills) maybe it would've been accepted. I just think that #19 should be a number left alone, as Unitas is a father of the modern NFL passing game and an all-time great of legendary proportions. NFL icon, community icon...yeah, John Unitas.
Unitas' statue is at m&t bank stadium and not in indy. Also, unitas was there when the team moved back to baltimore. He's a colt, but he's a baltimore colt.
@@universe-ie2mk I remember Unitas being on the sidelines here and there. As a whole, the Baltimore Colts players were a part of the community; as much as I love the concept of the Ravens, the Colts should've stayed in Baltimore (the Browns, same goes for them. Cardinals, Rams, Oilers, Raiders...I see them differently).
At least he asked. When Evander Kane took #9 with the second incarnation of the Winnipeg Jets, number worn by the guy who put hockey on the map in Winnipeg, Bobby Hull, he LIED about asking and it ended up being a PR nightmare for the Jets moving forward. Kane's career has been star crossed ever since. Karma is a mean mother.
Not like Bobby Hull is any better of a person than Evander Kane is.
Cool story, great footage, interesting topic. Could have been a 7 minute video instead of 17 though.
Thanks for the video! Mitchell made BARRY hold out to get his deserved money; and then caused my man Wayne Fontes to get fired! Bump Scott Mitchell!!!
Nice that you worked in an EARL MORRALL clip in highlights of a Johnny U-centric video...😆😆😆
I guess Earl continues to fill in for Unitas, on TH-cam, years beyond the grave....🤔
Imagine of Chris Godwin didn't give Brady #12 when he joined the Buccaneers 💀
The world would end, I guess.
Probably, little, I, guess.
@@jasonfischer8946 No, but, Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp, and, Matt Gay, stopped the world from ending, they did.
@@matthewdaley746 ?
@@jasonfischer8946 The Playoff Game against the Rams, I live in Tampa Bay, and, people still treat it, like, A Greek Tragedy, despite, the fact that Tom Brady had a QBR of 14, Matthew Stafford had a QBR of 68, and, at one point, the Rams led the Game, 27-3, but, to hear them tell it, the, "better," team/QB, lost, never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Why is this controversial? Unitas was a Colt/Charger not a Brown/Raven and Mitchell wore #19 wherever he played. This is a non-story.
.... yeah you aren't from Baltimore lol
Even those old Colts legends don't claim indy, but the Ravens
Kind of weird to be so passionate about a player who played for the Colts and not the Ravens. I definitely get the city loyalty though.
So what? The world is going to Hell in a hand basket, and this guy thinks a silly uniform number is "controversial"?
Not weird at all. A lot of people in Baltimore (per my dad) refused to root for another team after Irsay did what he did. Some later began rooting for the Bills and the now-Commanders (and people that were born early in the 12-year interregnum by and large cheer for the Commanders). A lot of the former Colts players stuck around in the area after their playing days. The Towson University football stadium is called Johnny Unitas Stadium, and even to this day you see former Colts players on local football radio shows.
I don’t see how that’s weird. Unitas was NEVER a fan of the Colts after they moved to Indy. He was in support of the Ravens the entire way leading up to his death. They even have a statue of him in front of M&T Bank stadium.
Everyone remembers that the Ravens stole the franchise from the Browns, but don’t forget the Colts originally were stolen from Baltimore a decade before that. But only one team got to keep their history 🤔
If anything, it’s weirder to honor someone who never represented the city, which was more important to a lot of players (INCLUDING UNITAS) than a few colors and a symbol.
@@joshbanner7398 well the franchise that became the Colts was in Dallas before Baltimore, before that it was in New York.
@@sak7785 It shouldn’t have to be said that there’s a major difference between an expansion team (the Baltimore Colts) getting the remains of an ALREADY DISBANDED TEAM and taking a team and all it’s history and sneaking them out in the middle of the night.
At the 2:27 mark......did JG9 say "the Scott Mitchell ERA" or "the Scott Mitchell ERROR"?
I'm from Baltimore and think that this is a stupid controversy.
Imagine if Kyle Hamilton asked to wear Ed's number. Would you seriously be OK with that?
@@jamesdulany2176 Yes. I don't care. It's just a number. It doesn't have magic powers. You have over 50 players on a team with a number and 99 available. After a while, they get repeated.
This wasn't the same franchise that Unitas played for, so it's not that deep to me. This isn't the same as someone playing for the Bucs and requesting jersey No. 63 (Lee Roy Selmon).
In the NBA, the Thunder has agreed not to use Seattle retired jerseys including 20 which hadn't been formally retired but would have been. The Hornets did not apparently retain the jerseys retired from the original franchise that moved to New Orleans and I don't know if the Pelicans kept retired numbers from Charlotte.
I’m from the Baltimore area and all this about Johnny U is all true he was much loved and anything resembling him is held high
o.k. I know it's saying a lot for Mitchell to use Unitas' number and well, the importance of history has to be respected.... HOWEVER, he ASKED Johnny U HIMSELF.... THAT'S being a MAN.... had he'd been told NO... BY Johnny U himself... he'd have respected that...... so.... the uproar wasn't from the two people that this effected the most... Johnny and Mitchell......
There is currently no one wearing number 19 on Baltimore's other major sports team, baseball's Orioles.
Perhaps that number is officially or unofficially retired across all of Baltimore professional sports.
Former Oriole Chris Davis wore 19 for years
@@itsjakesports Sufficient to say, the Orioles won't be retiring that number any time soon, lol.
@@Slade347 .... why you have to rub that in man lol🤣🤣🤣
Orioles 🙄
It’s hilarious knowing the Detroit Lions chose Scott Mitchell over the guy that almost got them to the Super Bowl with Erik Kramer.
In 1999, I'm pretty sure people considered Joe Montana the GOAT, not Unitas.
I’m pretty sure he said Unitas was the goat in Baltimore sports.
Just goes to show ya, recency bias makes people WRONG alla time.... 😲😉
t least montana didn't take #16 in kc and settled for #19.
Not me (not necessarily saying Unitas was that either but I always thought Montana was kind of overrated)
When Barry Bonds signed with the Giants as a free agent, he asked to wear the retired #24 which Willie Mays wore (FWIW, Mays only wore #24 since he couldn't get #42 to honor Jackie Robinson). While Mays agreed to let Bonds, his godson. wear it, the resulting uproar resulted in Barry wearing #25 to honor his father, Bobby Bonds.
Before he became a machine, a literal walk or homerun, and I'm fine with that, let them juice as long as everyone else has the opportunity lol
Speaking of, I think the Pirates need to take #24 out of circulation.
I can see that, Bonds was a cheater, Say Hey was great.
Bro… if i ask you what time it is. Skip the part where you tell me every detail how to build the watch
What team has the Colts records from the beginning to 1982 when they moved to Indianapolis .
Since you mentioned baseball quite a bit in this video this seems to be an unwritten rule that was violated. I also think if anyone in Baltimore was thinking clearly they’d realize that Mitchell would be the last person on whom to vent their wrath.
damn no historian takes?
Unwritten rule? This would be like saying no one who's on the Mets should ever wear numbers 3, 4, 5, or 7 in respect for Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle.
@@Rockhound6165 The better analogy is that the Mets couldn’t have issued any numbers that belonged to the New York Giants or Brooklyn Dodgers. In this instance the Ravens didn’t officially (for you Donald38) retire #19.
Being upset over this is like being upset over someone on the Orioles wearing #19. The Ravens are a different team - different jersey design, different color scheme. It would be way more upsetting to see someone wear #19 on the Indianapolis Colts because that’s the jersey he played in.
For like half the video I was wondering why then suddenly Unitas popped in my head and it all made sense
I could understand if he was an Indianapolis Colt, but Johnny Unitas didn't play for the Baltimore Ravens franchise, which used to be the original Cleveland Browns.
Jerry Rice wearing Steve Largent's # in Seattle was not a great look.
Why the fuck is there an ad every minute
Unitas wore #19 for the Colts but this is the Ravens history. A player should be allowed to wear #19 for the Ravens to honor Unitas and so people don’t forget Unitas. Never mind. Ravens need a Ring of Honor for Colts/Ravens players: Art Donovan #70, Raymond Berry #82, Unitas #19, Morrall #15, Moore #24, Curry #50, Mackey #88, Matte #41, Jerry Hill #45, Marty Domres #14, Coach Shula, Bubba Smith #78 etc Bert Jones #7
in 1999 the majority of people would have answered the question of Greatest QB with "Joe Montana", not Unitas
The name of the kid that caught the ball is Jeffrey Maier.
Diamondbacks put matters right.
@@matthewdaley746Wedging in the Eagles every chance you get is annoying enough. Now it's the Diamond Backs. Insufferable!
@@jamesage24 Alas, they were superior.
Notre Dame does it right. When you get issued your number, you get a list of players who wore that number before you. That way you know who you're honoring.
meanwhile, the Colts have kept all numbers retired since Baltimore to this day
As they should, the Colts are the Colts regardless of geographic location.
I don't see how this would be a big deal Unitas played for The Colts, Mitchell played for The Ravens two different franchises. I understand The Colts were in Baltimore and Unitas played for The Colts while they were still in Baltimore, but it's two different franchises.
Thing is, it’s about the football history in Baltimore. If the Colts were an ass team, that had retired a number, left, and a new team eventually moved/were created and called that town home, yeah, there probably wouldn’t be much care if that number gets used again. Because it was a legends number, for a great team that the city highly revered, even if the Ravens only connection is they play in the same city that Unitas once played in, it’s gonna rub people the wrong way, even if Unitas himself had no problems with a player wearing his number.
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Art Donavan.....so how much did he weigh?
I would have flipped out too about that!!
As a Steeler fan I’m hoping they’ve pulled #7 from circulation. #43, #36, and #86 need pulled also. I can’t imagine anyone else ever playing for the Steelers that isn’t Polamalu, Hines Ward, or Bettis wearing those numbers.
those 3 numbers are out of circulation. what pissed me off is when they gave #53 immediately to kendrick green. the disrespect to pouncey.
If I can get used to people wearing Lynn Swann's or John Stallworth's numbers, or Rocky Blier.
I forgot Scott Mitchell even played for the Ravens
The fans were wrong because Johnny Unitas played for the Colts. Had he played for the Browns or Ravens, it may have been more understandable, but he didn’t, as these are two totally different teams with the only commonality is the city which Unitas and Scott Mitchell played for. Would it not look stupid if fans protested a rookie linebacker for the Jets who wanted to wear the number 56 because it was Lawrence Taylor’s old number?
Any Baltimore sports fan of a certain age revers the numbers #19 and #5!
As a Northern California native, I can say with 100 percent certainty if Tom Brady was signed by the 49ers and he got permission from Joe Montana to wear #16, no one would care. No one would care if Montana himself said on national television he was honored to let Brady wear his number (I'm pretty sure he wouldn't). Niners fans would lose their f'ing minds. I'm no longer a Niners fan or a fan of any particular NFL team, but Joe is my all-time favorite QB and I don't gaf who it is (I hate Brady, btw), I would want to choke the soul of anyone who stepped into the 49ers huddle wearing #16. Joe's the best I've ever watched in real time. Many people old enough to have watched Unitas in real time say Joe was better. That's fine for them. I stay out of it because I never saw Unitas play a single down in real time. I have no sense of the era Unitas played in. I have no grasp on proper context. But, I've known the name Johnny Unitas since I was a little kid. That name is beyond legendary. Unitas is absolutely mythical. He's so legendary you almost wonder if he ever really existed. It sounds almost like the name of a God. So, I completely understand Baltimore natives, especially those old enough to have watched Unitas, coming undone over Scott Mitchell (I forgot he ever existed) having the audacity to even ask permission to wear #19 in Baltimore. I'm not even emotionally attached to the matter and I'd like to punch Mitchell in the throat. I suppose it would not be as a big of a deal if the Niners left and another team came to SF. But, I would still not be crazy about it and I don't think most die hard Niners fans would either. #16 in San Francisco belongs to "Joe Cool."
I think Unitas was the reason Montana wore #19 in KC. Don't quote me on that, though. I could be wrong. Maybe I'll research it later.
@Superlungs Obviously, he didn't take 16 because it was retired (I forgot who wore it). That doesn't explain why he chose #19. But, I knew I was probably pulling the Unitas angle out of my ass, which is why I said I could be wrong. It wasn't based on verified information. But, I was wrung. He chose #19, because it was his high school number.
@Superlungs Apparently, his childhood idol was Terry Hanratty, who also went to Notre Dame. Went on to play for the Bucs and Steelers. But, I've never heard of the guy before.
I don't know anyone who complained about this. Lived in Baltimore my whole life. First time hearing this. I know Unitas refused to associate with Indianapolis and has a statue out front of the stadium too. This is all news to me.
I understand the principle, but it doesn't look right. Johnny Unitas like Bert Jones, are my all-time favorite Baltimore Colt QBs. I guess it's the colors. Johnny Unitas was a Colt not a Raven. He wore blue and white. That jersey is what he wore in his peak. Mitchell asked the man, and he said yes. Unitas wasn't a Raven and Mitchell sucked, so Unitas' legacy is intact!
@@seanswinton6242 I think it sounds pretty dumb since it is a different team. I don't remember ever hearing of this either, but I'm not surprised that people had issue with it. People have issue with everything. We just didn't have social media platforms to voice it like we do now.
You obviously never went to a game while Mitchell was playing.
Yeah... Growing up with a father that was a diehard Lions fan his entire life, I saw firsthand how mediocre and often bad Scott Mitchell was. He obviously didn't do his research on who wore the number 19 and how special, important and iconic that jersey is in Baltimore. Billick should have let him know and convinced him not to take that number and make himself the most hated man in Baltimore
Fun fact: the Ravens aren't the colts . The ravens have the linage of the Browns. The indy colts would be the ones with the retired 19 not the Ravens. so i see no issue whats so ever
Fun Fact the Ravens don't have the lineage of the Browns. All history and records remained in Cleveland. The Ravens were treated like a new franchise. Nothing wrong with Baltimore remebering the football history they had prior to the Ravens.
@@Tker1970 thanks for the info and correction. Still doesnt change the fact that number 19 is retired as a colt who has the history and not the Ravens. If the Ravens want to protect the number they can retire it themselves if they wanted to . they didnt.
Imagine someone else wearing number 9 for the Redskins or 16 for the 49ers, or 13 for the Dolphins, or 12 for the Steelers, Cowboys and Patriots - you get the idea
Those aren't really good comparisons, since all of those are the same franchise and all of them are more recent. Unitas played for the Colts, not for that Other Baltimore Franchise, and he played more than 50 years ago.
The closest comparison I can think of would be a player wearing #1 for the Houston Texans. Which has already happened twice.
I'd say 7 for the Redskins as well...and Broncos
As a Cowboys fan I wouldn’t care if they issued any of their numbers that are out of circulation to a new player.
NFL rosters are too large to be able to retire numbers, that’s why the Cowboys started the Ring of Honor.
Giving a player a former stars number has also proven to be a great motivator.
Plus it actually helps keep the memory of former greats alive because they get talked about when the number is issued & even sometimes during games.
But these numbers are retired(with the exception of Brady in New England). That's the difference. And it's no one playing for the Flyers wears #31 even though the team never officially retired Lindbergh's number.
@@madmanszalinski And just like Scott Mitchell, another failed QB Dwayne Haskins had the nerve to wear number 7 for the Redskins - thankfully he didn't it wear it too long before he was shipped to Pittsburgh
They never let anyone wear 19, but I think it will change soon because of the new rule, WR’s and defensive players are taking up the single digit QB numbers, so the Ravens will be forced to relinquish 19 to a QB soon and number 1
A similar controversy also happened in the NHL just a few years ago, when Josh Ho-Sang of the Islanders took number 66 made famous by Mario Lemieux, who of course never played for the Islanders. Although Lemieux himself approved of Ho-Sang using the number, he still got a lot of criticism from fans and media at the time. Like Mitchell, he lasted with the team for less than a season's worth of games.
lemieux's #66 wasn't retired by the nhl like say #99 was.
TJ Brodie also caught grief for wearing 66 in 2010-11 for Calgary. Its ridiculous how incredibly oversensitive some fans are about this. I'm a Bruins fan and have watched a ton of crappy defenceman around the league (Tom Gilbert, Ryan Parent) wear #77 and I couldn't care less.
@@stevenbauer4799 Wayne Gretzky has more assists than any other player has points, Mario Lemieux's career was cut short, (through no fault of his own), as terrific as he was, Mario Lemieux was remembered more for what he, "might," have done, you can't retire numbers league-wide based upon hypotheticals, simple as that.
@@pwinson bourque gave up espo's no. 7 so it could be retired.
@@matthewdaley746 mlb retired robinson's #42 even tho he only played for dodgers and does not have like 60 statistical records to speak of. but that is another story...
Another 16 minute video that could move been condensed into 2-3 minutes
The way I see it this would be like the Houston Oilers retiring number 34 (Earl Campbell) and after the team moved to Tennessee to become the Titans, the Houston Texans issue the number 34, which they did for linebacker Troy Hairston.
So, it was insulting to Johnny Unitas's legacy in Baltmore to wear that jersey number.
It took long enough to make that point.
Over doing the ads a bit I see.
This unofficial Official Jaguar 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about what another player who wore Raymond Berry’s #82 for the Ravens, Shannon Sharpe, said after his first game as a Raven.
How'd he not bring that up?!
@@jbj7599 I’m guessing he only has a limited number of links he can include with each video.
@@CTubeMan ahh prob right!
Why would it matter? The 19 of the Ravens did not carry the same legendary status as it would with the Colts and don't share history with them. If he had joined the Colts and asked for the number, THEN I understand the outrage.
Johnny Unitas is from Pittsburgh originally
I loved the Scott Mitchell signing at the time: I was like "There's a tall man with human body parts, this is going to be lit!". But yeah, seriously, Mitchell should've left #19 alone, maybe go with #16, like how Joe Montana wore #19 in respect for Len Dawson and his #16. Mitchell would've been better off wearing a John Unitas Halloween mask. Humorously, Mitchell barely played for the 1999 Ravens,which opened the door for Tony Banks and his okay-ness (who then opened the door for Trent Dilfer).
The difference with Montana is that #16 was retired in KC. #19 wasn't retired by the Browns/Ravens. Also, this also wasn't a situation like the Flyers who haven't retired #31 for Pelle Lindbergh but no one has worn #31 since he died. But I dunno, maybe you can make a case for Bernie Kosar but I doubt it.
@@Rockhound6165 I see your point, and honestly the Mitchell thing isn't a big deal to me (personally, I would've worn a different number though). I say "No" about Bernie Kosar though, mostly because the Ravens are in the books as an expansion team, while the Browns franchise was listed as inactive from 1996-1998 (any consolation there is that the Ravens didn't gain much purchase in those years, and didn't begin to wear the look of a winner until the 2nd half of 1999). In mentioning this, I've always liked Unitas's attitude about the Colts move; I can relate to such loyalty.
Speaking of, John Brodie allowed his #12 to come out of retirement with the 49ers when Trent Dilfer signed there. One of them has a bust in Canton, and it’s not the one with a Super Bowl ring.
@@CTubeMan John Brodie's not in the Hall of Fame though; I'm sure something of his is in the building ng, but no bust (really good career, and he is in the College Hall of Fame).
@@gluserty You’re right, I just assumed Brodie was in. Otherwise, I think it’s analogous to the Unitas/Mitchell situation.
How sad.
I can only assume a video covering a near-washed Jerry Rice doing the same thing in Seattle is on the table?
At least with Jerry Rice, people associate him with the #80 jersey, and he’s regarded by everyone as the greatest WR of all time
Completely different situation compared to Scott Mitchell taking the number of arguably the greatest QB in NFL history at that point
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 Yeah, it was a different situation. Mitchell was honoring his childhood hero. Rice was honoring his own ego.
It's like if Michael Jordan finished his career in Houston and wanted #23, which was already retired for Calvin Murphy. Yeah, Jordan's the superior player, but it's still a dick move.
The Indianapolis Colts wanted to retire Johns # 19 jersey and he told them to do what you want without me because he did not play for the Indianapolis Colts . You see loyalty to the city and fans that support their team , means something to the players , the owners could give a shit ! They just move with out care of the city they left . . Unitas did not play for the Ravens . They came from the ashes of the Cleveland Browns , who beat John in 1964 for the NFL title .
Dear Baltimore: Be mad at Mr. Irsay, not Mr. Mitchell.....!
Imagine hating someone over a jersey number
would the nfl team in indianapolis ever allow the nfl team in baltimore have the name colts back. maybe this is something that the league could address by saying , " if a team moves to another city then they relinquish the team name , colors, and history.
Stupid thing to get mad about the Ravens have literally no connection to the Colts. This is like Giants fans being mad about a Jets player wearing 56.
Ngl, the fact that the Ravens realized their 2 games in the season is kinda admirable. Some teams stick with someone for years and years despite the cries from everyone with a brain. So you gotta hand it to them
I'm not into retiring numbers, doesn't matter who it is. Can't retire too many numbers in this sport given the roster size.
You never get a second chance to make a good first impression.
It's not until the 7 minute mark that you get the reason. So, be prepared. And if you're watching this I'm willing to bet you knew why before deciding to watch the video in the first place.
I knew this one immediately.
So the fans of the team that moved from Cleveland to Baltimore are upset about a number?? Yeah, I figured this was the controversy
'never go thru the drive thru. you know why? they #k you. and they know you will be a mile away before you figure it out...' leo getz thing done.
@@stevenbauer4799 yep!!!
so they’re mad about Johnny U, but not Raymond Berry?? as if Berry catching his passes for over a decade didn’t make Johnny the legend he is. that’s just dumb
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The moment you all came for
Oh, I came all right. (Rim shot.)
Entitled colts fans don't realize that the Ravens are a new/different team with their own history.
This is petty stuff. If the number is that significant with a player, typically that number is retired. personal opinion: "Who really gives a damn about what number they wear"? That's an abuse of control and power, it's childish, it's narcissistic, it's communism. If the man who epitomized the #19 has no argument with Mitchell wearing the #, then it shouldn't matter , right?