Ingenuity at it's finest. To have had this hotter-than-a-$4-pistol illegal AF but brilliant piece of masterful craftsmanship stored in this engineer's home loft since 1992 only to be given to Dale Jr after he said he wanted it, is like having Smoky Yunick point a crooked finger at you, givin' you a sly wink, and lettin' you run wild through the Best Damn Garage in Daytona to take anything you want. Jr is definitely stepping between the raindrops.
I used to work for Dean and I saw this deck lid in the barn everyday. I can assure you he has WAY more stories like this to tell. He worked Leo Jackson in the '90s, Dave Marcis in the '80s and has been in racing forever.
This was an incredible little segment. “Cheating” stories has been my favorite thing from these podcasts with guys from previous generations, so hearing one from someone who worked on this stuff behind the scenes was amazing. Hopefully we can see more of this in the future
"The stuff going on today" in NASCAR is boring as all hell...........not to mention the entire nascar cup scene is barely even a shell of it's former self. Sorry, but there will never be the excitement, wonder, intensity, and greatness in today's nascar like there used to be, end of story. I mean for crying out loud, they're all running a generic car set up BY nascar officials nowadays. Not to mention how most of today's punk ass cup car drivers couldn't handle a 500 mile race non-stop. No Sir, today, they get to take breaks a few times throughout each race.........so they can all have ice cream & snow cones.
@@howabouthetruth2157 ok fair enough but I was kinda talking about pre Next gen stuff. Like what did hendrick have in their motors last year because the rumor was they were up a lot . Also when MTJ was dominating with Cole Oearn , what kind of stuff was in that car .
@@davidrice3337 It's damn near impossible for them to cheat nowadays anyway. And you're right, ain't nobody gonna care about these drivers. Cup racing has literally been castrated and perverted in every way a person could imagine.
It would be super cool if Dale took an early 90s gen 4 car, put a decklid like this on it, steel shot in the roll bars, nitrous under the seat, and all the other cheated out stuff that his guest have told him. Then give it a cool ass Dirty Mo paint scheme and kinda have it taken around to different racing venues or a museum as somewhat of a history lesson for fans as to how Ingenuity used to be done.
Krispy, it definitely belongs in Harry Gant’s HOF display, once NASCAR finally gets around to being serious about inducting their greatest drivers…and quits inducting “ancillary” sanctioning body members like Mike Helton and broadcasters like Ralph Moody…
So I love this guy brought this by! This is one of the top guest in my opinion that’s ever walked in! You just can’t put a price on the cheated up parts. On my stock cars and even legend cars I used a lot of DTMF controlled devices with different radio controlled (by my spotter) he would send tones and open different vents up to change the low pressure region. Also I had 5 fins on the grill to open all of them. (Key radio: Press: 6) to open Individually. Key radio: press: 1-2-3-4-5 or if you only wanted 2 & 4 open which is what we ran 99% of the time. We would key radio: press: 2-4. Those were the good ole days. After the series put onboard cameras I knew I couldn’t be flipping switches so I had to have someone remotely run that stuff.
THATS BADASS... also thanks for bringing the guy in to speak about it, great story and also cool to highlight the little guys behind the scenes. Also we need a close up of it
The legendary crew-chief's, like Dale Inman, Leonard Wood, Ray Evernham ect...are absolutely not gonna be lining up to tell their cheat'n stories, but the lesser known crew-member's who never received any public credit for helping their legendary bosses create the ingenious device's, well that's a very different story now ain't it 😏 Whomever thought this segment up, freaking pure genius!!
Such an awesome show! Love it! Races were won in the shop and I love hearing these types of stories to enlighten how! Just like where nascar comes from... Bootlegging😀
Im 64 From Conway S.C Jr knows where we at he came thru every Saturday on the way to Myrtle Beach Speedway but i grew up watching Jr Johnson, Firewall Roberts on my mini-bike in the infield at Darlington, and thru the Dale Sr, Harry Gant, D.W. Rusty to name a few but i would love to hear-see more of these guys who were behind the scenes and were not recognized for there creativity, man i enjoyed this segment there are Lots more we would love to hear,bring them on!
I so wish y’all had interviewed Brad Francis before he died. Brad taught Andy most everything he knew. He invented the track bar adjuster with Earnhardt Sr.
This was amazing! These kinda people and stories are what I love seeing on DJD. Always cool to hear the juiciness of a Harvick or Mayfield pod, but man I have to stop everything I’m doing and turn the brain on to listen and analyze everything going on with the “ingenuity” discussions. Great stuff, MORE PLZ!!
These are the absolute best videos man. Everybody knows that all competitors across the board do whatever they can to win, so nice to hear some of the secrets!
Hearing this guy is crew chiefing the #94 CARS Tour this weekend at Dominion. Everything tricked out in the #94 which is really serving as a test car for McCumbee.
Bobby Allison had a rear bumper "fall off" and went on to win race, areo and weight advantage Crew chief Gary Nelson. Bobby Allison to hot in race car, Gary Nelson cuts hole in roof with air chisel during pit stop, suspected. Areo-downforce advantage for Die Guard racing team. This stuff was on live TV during races. ESPN and TNN had far better race and pit road coverage than the networks of today.
seeing that Old 3 in the back was great, when I was a nitride operator here in reidsville n.c. I was given 300 lugnuts to harden through our nitride process. Verified count, 300 in,300 out.. each one engraved with that number 3( figured they thought some would be stolen) ,I even had a friend I took care of, Parkinson, he had a big square box ship fan from Dale's garage, had the crew in it, and in the background was that can, he would never sell it, don't know what happened to it after he died.
I don't know if Dale Jr. would remember this or not, but he was running the 400-miler at Daytona one year; the night race. Jr. had about the strongest car, but at one point in the race, he is jus' ridin' 2nd behind Kyle Busch, making laps. I'm listening to his radio channel on my scanner and Jr. starts to chuckle. He then proceeds to describe--in detail--what he is seeing on the 18 car right ahead of him. The 18's entire decklid is lowering itself, as if being pressed down by the airflow over the car, or by actuators like the ones being described in this video, as the car proceeds down the backstretch, bringing the rear spoiler down out of the air. But, lo and behold, the decklid then raises itself back up, flush with the rear quarter-panels, as the car entered Turn 3. This happened lap after lap, with Jr. absolutely giddy seeing this !!! It must've gone on for about 10-15 laps, and then pitstops began, and that was the last I heard him talk about the decklid during that race. A precious moment that I will never forget !!!
This is awesome! They should do a semi-regular segment and bring in unknown/ lesser known guys for bite size stories like this!
Love that he left the trunk with JR!
Agreed, especially these guys from the older days who have awesome stories like this before NASCAR got so advanced in its cheating detecting methods
That’s one hell of an idea
Jason Banicki, wasn’t Gary Nelson one of the biggest cheaters in the sport??
@@rickroth7640 oh yeah. That was one of, if not the main, reasons NASCAR hired him. He knew a lot of the tricks.
Dale, Mike, Matt PLEASE have more guys like this!!! This is fantastic
Ingenuity at it's finest. To have had this hotter-than-a-$4-pistol illegal AF but brilliant piece of masterful craftsmanship stored in this engineer's home loft since 1992 only to be given to Dale Jr after he said he wanted it, is like having Smoky Yunick point a crooked finger at you, givin' you a sly wink, and lettin' you run wild through the Best Damn Garage in Daytona to take anything you want. Jr is definitely stepping between the raindrops.
What a masterful comment.
Shannon, I hope Jr sees this comment. Well done, you need to be a writer.
miss Shannon that is well thought out and written. young lady my hats off to you
I used to work for Dean and I saw this deck lid in the barn everyday. I can assure you he has WAY more stories like this to tell. He worked Leo Jackson in the '90s, Dave Marcis in the '80s and has been in racing forever.
This was an incredible little segment. “Cheating” stories has been my favorite thing from these podcasts with guys from previous generations, so hearing one from someone who worked on this stuff behind the scenes was amazing. Hopefully we can see more of this in the future
More of this! Love old school cheating stories , because one day in like 15 years we can hear about the stuff going on today
"The stuff going on today" in NASCAR is boring as all hell...........not to mention the entire nascar cup scene is barely even a shell of it's former self. Sorry, but there will never be the excitement, wonder, intensity, and greatness in today's nascar like there used to be, end of story. I mean for crying out loud, they're all running a generic car set up BY nascar officials nowadays. Not to mention how most of today's punk ass cup car drivers couldn't handle a 500 mile race non-stop. No Sir, today, they get to take breaks a few times throughout each race.........so they can all have ice cream & snow cones.
@@howabouthetruth2157 ok fair enough but I was kinda talking about pre Next gen stuff. Like what did hendrick have in their motors last year because the rumor was they were up a lot . Also when MTJ was dominating with Cole Oearn , what kind of stuff was in that car .
Yeah except for the fact that nobody will care about these dudes
@@davidrice3337 It's damn near impossible for them to cheat nowadays anyway. And you're right, ain't nobody gonna care about these drivers. Cup racing has literally been castrated and perverted in every way a person could imagine.
@@howabouthetruth2157sadly Ive gotta say you are right
My favorite line..."They aint smart nuff to figure it out" ...meaning Nascar Inspection! They were right!
It would be super cool if Dale took an early 90s gen 4 car, put a decklid like this on it, steel shot in the roll bars, nitrous under the seat, and all the other cheated out stuff that his guest have told him. Then give it a cool ass Dirty Mo paint scheme and kinda have it taken around to different racing venues or a museum as somewhat of a history lesson for fans as to how Ingenuity used to be done.
Even better would be to take it to a superspeedway and have someone run some hot laps in it and see how much faster it could have been
I remember Andy being nervous to talk about it, love the ingenuity and was a big Harry Gant fan, so cool so much fun!! 😂😂😎
When he said “it’s yours” Dale was thinking of all the phone calls he needs to make to have a “creative rule interpretation” area in the hall of fame.
Krispy, it definitely belongs in Harry Gant’s HOF display, once NASCAR finally gets around to being serious about inducting their greatest drivers…and quits inducting “ancillary” sanctioning body members like Mike Helton and broadcasters like Ralph Moody…
@@twoblacklabs904 Smokey Yunick belongs in the HOF
Dean was Dale’s Santa Clause this year…what do you get a multimillionaire famous guy? A priceless 1 of 1 1992 legendary deck-lid from Harry Gant
So I love this guy brought this by! This is one of the top guest in my opinion that’s ever walked in! You just can’t put a price on the cheated up parts. On my stock cars and even legend cars I used a lot of DTMF controlled devices with different radio controlled (by my spotter) he would send tones and open different vents up to change the low pressure region. Also I had 5 fins on the grill to open all of them. (Key radio: Press: 6) to open Individually. Key radio: press: 1-2-3-4-5 or if you only wanted 2 & 4 open which is what we ran 99% of the time. We would key radio: press: 2-4. Those were the good ole days. After the series put onboard cameras I knew I couldn’t be flipping switches so I had to have someone remotely run that stuff.
A “Cheater” of the highest order & regard. THAT, is amazing. Man I miss those good ole days!
THATS BADASS... also thanks for bringing the guy in to speak about it, great story and also cool to highlight the little guys behind the scenes. Also we need a close up of it
These are the kinds of things I love watching. All of the interviews with the older guys talkin' about "shenanigans" makes me smile!
I would like to hear from more team members of the 70s, 80s and 90s and hear their stories.
Ok that was amazing! And I very glad he decided to share with the world.
OMG. You have got to hook a battery up to that actuator and show us how it works! :P
I really hope these secrets keep working their way to us. Such a great history for the sport.
me too, i stopped watching after spingate so i like to hear the stories of actual efforts of creativity rather than rigging
Not sure if I missed it or not but Gary Nelson is a must have on the show in the future.
They have been trying to get him on, but he won't come on the show.
Freaking awesome! That is so very cool and what a story. I agree, more of this type of history. And he was a wonderful storyteller!
It absolutely needs to be on display at the hall of fame
I love these stories and the personalities that tell them.
very cool. smart dude and excited to be there with Dale.
Awesome gift to the studio/Jrs collection. Sounded a bit like the guy just wanted his space back and knows it has a good home with Dale.
Love the ingenuity of the NASCAR teams back in the day…
Love these videos of the engineers & the “cheating” not cheating but coming as close to… these are great stories.
That was actually really cool to hear about how they did all that, the full story was awesome to hear
These stories are one of the coolest things about NASCAR 👍
"They're Just Not That Smart Andy" Lmao 🤣😂...I Like His Attitude lol....
The legendary crew-chief's, like Dale Inman, Leonard Wood, Ray Evernham ect...are absolutely not gonna be lining up to tell their cheat'n stories, but the lesser known crew-member's who never received any public credit for helping their legendary bosses create the ingenious device's, well that's a very different story now ain't it 😏
Whomever thought this segment up, freaking pure genius!!
Such an awesome show! Love it! Races were won in the shop and I love hearing these types of stories to enlighten how! Just like where nascar comes from... Bootlegging😀
We need a nascar "cheat" hall of fame. Probably be more popular than the regular one!
Would Suitcase Jake be in the top 10?
According to Kyle Petty, The King and Dale Inman would have the most items in that hall of fame.
@@gregorydufrene121 without a doubt
Smoky Yunick would have his entire garge in it lol
@@conrailman for sure! Lol!😎
Once a month we need these guys on just to talk about this
Ask that dude more questions!!! Lol love it!
Man this was so fun to listen to, and even better to watch it. I'd love to see this thing work again
Im 64 From Conway S.C Jr knows where we at he came thru every Saturday on the way to Myrtle Beach Speedway but i grew up watching Jr Johnson, Firewall Roberts on my mini-bike in the infield at Darlington, and thru the Dale Sr, Harry Gant, D.W. Rusty to name a few but i would love to hear-see more of these guys who were behind the scenes and were not recognized for there creativity, man i enjoyed this segment there are Lots more we would love to hear,bring them on!
This is one of my favorite episodes.
Gotta love Jr and I don’t even have to be a NASCAR fan. Dude is cool and keeps me tuning in to have a chuckle. Peace
You have got the bring this man back for a full episode please!!!
I’m right down the road, Church St Mooresville. I am coming to see the deck lid soon.
Cheating stories are the best
Great addition to the Bojangles Studio ! REALLY cool story,!
What a great Surprise episode as always thanks for the great content
They should take him out to one of there cars and really explain it so everybody will get the enginuity of this! It's amazing
You need to get Tom Peck on here.. he has some good stories of his days of racing with Dale Sr.
great surprise visit. its stories like these that make me miss the old Nascar more and more.
Super cool of him.
I love Nascar.
The stories just keep on getting better. Really need more guys on who knew how to skirt the rulebook from this era and before!
I love the detail, right down to the Bondo
That is what made nascar so great back then
I wonder all the “techniques” Larry Mac tried throughout his career on his team’s cars, I know he’s been on the show but I just love his commentary!
wat an awesome story...luv it 👍
Y’all have to make a display stand a n d power it up for all fans to see it operate wow what a historic piece to have and see it operate WOW
I so wish y’all had interviewed Brad Francis before he died. Brad taught Andy most everything he knew. He invented the track bar adjuster with Earnhardt Sr.
I absolutely enjoy these “ingenuity” shows. The creativity is really amazing.
MORE OF THIS 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 this is INCREDIBLE!!
Love these kinds of stories!👍
That's so cool that he brought it to you!! This is one of my favorite Nascar cheating stories!
This was amazing! These kinda people and stories are what I love seeing on DJD. Always cool to hear the juiciness of a Harvick or Mayfield pod, but man I have to stop everything I’m doing and turn the brain on to listen and analyze everything going on with the “ingenuity” discussions. Great stuff, MORE PLZ!!
The ingenuity is amazing!! Can’t wait to listen to this weeks Pod!
Really enjoyed this segment and love the ingenuity stories from past times!
One of the best episodes to date!
Great show and content! I love old NASCAR!
These are the absolute best videos man. Everybody knows that all competitors across the board do whatever they can to win, so nice to hear some of the secrets!
Now is this is a great interview. Much more interesting than the usual guest.
This guy was awesome. Prob had some more stories to tell.
If you told me when I was watching NASCAR as a kid in the 80s that we’d have access to this knowledge 30+ years later I’d have flipped out…
So freakin’ awesome.
Hearing this guy is crew chiefing the #94 CARS Tour this weekend at Dominion. Everything tricked out in the #94 which is really serving as a test car for McCumbee.
I remember hearing NASCAR hired Gary Nelson cause he was one of the biggest cheaters in the garage
facts
Bobby Allison had a rear bumper "fall off" and went on to win race, areo and weight advantage Crew chief Gary Nelson. Bobby Allison to hot in race car, Gary Nelson cuts hole in roof with air chisel during pit stop, suspected. Areo-downforce advantage for Die Guard racing team. This stuff was on live TV during races. ESPN and TNN had far better race and pit road coverage than the networks of today.
Best episode to date. BarNone! Just couldn’t be cooler!
Great video. I love Dale Jrs podcast!!!
We all know this stuff was going on but Seeing this gives everyone satisfaction seeing how inventive people really were!
Great as always!
This is the part of Nascar that I love ,ingenious solutions created by true craftsman which all started by running shine back in the day . ❤ it !
Love that guy and you brougt the content.40 year fan,this is awesome
If you ain't cheatin, you ain't winning 👀😜
That’s freaking awesome! What an awesome story!!
Really enjoyed this guest.
seeing that Old 3 in the back was great, when I was a nitride operator here in reidsville n.c. I was given 300 lugnuts to harden through our nitride process. Verified count, 300 in,300 out.. each one engraved with that number 3( figured they thought some would be stolen) ,I even had a friend I took care of, Parkinson, he had a big square box ship fan from Dale's garage, had the crew in it, and in the background was that can, he would never sell it, don't know what happened to it after he died.
Great story. How did Bill Elliott make up 2 laps under green to win at Talladega in 1985?
lol I been wondering this for years
how? That mo fo was bad fast Ernie Elliot was a cylinger head genius
For the Earnhardt family to go to the Cup serious would be great. Between You Kelly and Rick Hendrick. And the Fans! It's all good!.
Please show a closeup of how that works
That would be very cool to see!
Agreed!!!
I’ve literally been trying to hunt down this video since I listened to djd today
Love this!
You got to love the stories that were behind the scenes.
....trying to cheat the sanctioning body is always cool
Damn. I wish I had that deck lid so cool and smart cheating and working in the grey are a part of NASCAR!!! Awesome!!!
Love cheating stories! Please do more of these.
Also, love the N. Wilkesboro news (I'm late on that) Well done Jr!
How cool is that fella! You guy's podcasts are absolutely over the top. Great work.
👍😎 I never comment. That was awesome. I miss those days. Thanks Matt & Dale. First race I watched was at Riverside.
4:52 while I understand needing silicone for flexibility on this application, bondo does stick to aluminum
Pretty cool. So many people involved in Nascar that no one really knows that have really cool stories definitely something I'd watch more of
Dean Jones: Andy Petree used my name in vain.
Also Dean Jones: All the credit for this is mine. Oh, and this beauty almost made Andy wet his pants.
Good Job Mathew.
I don't know if Dale Jr. would remember this or not, but he was running the 400-miler at Daytona one year; the night race. Jr. had about the strongest car, but at one point in the race, he is jus' ridin' 2nd behind Kyle Busch, making laps. I'm listening to his radio channel on my scanner and Jr. starts to chuckle. He then proceeds to describe--in detail--what he is seeing on the 18 car right ahead of him. The 18's entire decklid is lowering itself, as if being pressed down by the airflow over the car, or by actuators like the ones being described in this video, as the car proceeds down the backstretch, bringing the rear spoiler down out of the air. But, lo and behold, the decklid then raises itself back up, flush with the rear quarter-panels, as the car entered Turn 3. This happened lap after lap, with Jr. absolutely giddy seeing this !!! It must've gone on for about 10-15 laps, and then pitstops began, and that was the last I heard him talk about the decklid during that race. A precious moment that I will never forget !!!
Haha! That’s funny. Basically DRS way before they started using it in F1.
@@mjsmith1223 Good point !!!
loved this!!!🤣
“If you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying” Richard Petty
Like hearing these odd stories great job matthew
You should ask Dale Jr about the "rear end cooler fans" on the 5 and 88 cars on the 2009 speedway cars for JRM...I can remind him if he's forgotten...
More of this!!
Very creative...if there is a will there is a way. They have taken all the fun out of nascar,and most other types of racing.
Damn I just rewatched the Petree segment a few days ago! What a surprise!