Whoever stumbles upon this comment. I bought the tablet to test, it's updated to Android 13. Hardware is excellent. Software sucks. Discovered several bugs. Very bare bones. Compared to a Samsung Tab s7+. You will need to install several apps to mimick what the Samsung does. Stock Android is nice for phones, but not a large screen tablet. If acquired for a good price, and way less than an equivelant Samsung where you live, it's an understandable compromise, but don't over pay.
Congratulations to your purchase. I'm close to purchasing the p11 pro gen 2 myself . Do u feel the p12 is a much better buy than the p11 pro . Did u buy the 11 because the size is handier ?
Hi Andrew, thank you. That's it, I just want to thank you. This review is the best I've seen on the P12 Pro. You cover all of the features and compare it with the iPad Pro and Galaxy S8+ very fairly. Some of the reviews miss the wireless keyboard feature, which is a very good one - and you might have missed the Time of Flight camera and good face recognition as a result - but only one or two reviewers have noted it. This review helped me to make my choice to buy a used version of this at a wonderful price. Thank you for this, and thank you for the great attention and interest that you invest in these tablet reviews. You are great. 🙏
Good, interesting review. I would have thought that the more direct competitor would be the slightly older tab s7+. This has the same software as the s8, a similar chipset to the Lenovo and likely a similar update horizon. This can also now be bought at a discounted price.
Thanks for this.. I'm missing however the measurements of the screen brightness. When using tablet outdoors this is the limiting factor and can be make or break. Also, because you set the screen brightness to maximum, the battery life tests are not objective. You should measure those at at the same brightness..
This review is a year old and Levono has still not upgraded to Android 13 on the units they sell. I think ill wait to see if they ever do before i buy.
You talk about how Apple has better performance, but to do what? It's so artificially limited with the software that it's performance you can't take advantage of. Who cares what the geek bench score is? If you have a 20/20 iPad Pro and you can even resize windows on an external monitor?
You are comparing a 2-y-o iPad which is stupid as the Lenovo is 2022; the iPad Pro M2 will be Apple's 2022 iPad! It will kill this tablet for performance being able to run 8 apps simultaneously even if they are Pro apps like Lumafusion and Procreate. Absolutely nonsense that iPads cannot use their power and typical trolling.
@@lmaoded4854 The Lenovo Tab P12 Pro is not $330. Tell me where I can buy for that. It is nearly £700 (£900 for the 8GB model) in the UK which is not far the price of the iPad Pro 11-inch M1! It is also still on Android 11 which makes me worry about future updates. I think sensible people will easily choose the iPad over the P12 Pro, or buy a Tab S8+ instead.
@@andyH_England in my country it has a estimated price of 38k inr(it hasn't launched yet) for comparison the base spec ipad pro costs 72k inr which is almost 2x the price and the s8+ costs 70k inr
If Mac OS was put into M1 iPad pro, they will introduce fan into iPad pro hardware, because they know majority of people will put hardware to a point of overheating that why they can put Mac os on the iPad pro.......they know, all will hear about apple M1 iPad pro, is beckmarking, nothing In the iPad OS that can push the CPU and GPU harder
Been lenovo tablet fan since 2020 but my only complaint is i wish they offer more memory like some of other brands with the lenovo tablets only seem to go up to 128gb. While apple and some other brands can go up to 256gb, 512gb, and 1tb. Though lenovo still a good brand, esepcaily if on budget as some other brands tend to be expensive with you having to wait till they go on sale.
I own a huuuge Android app ecosystem from productivity apps to games, but I would still love this thing in and would rather buy if it had a Windows version. Call me nerdy, but Android is a waste on such a big beautiful screen... or how about them dual boot Android-Windows tabs? Any high end ones with this dual OS feature? Thanks for ze video! 🍻
@@MyNextTablet oh? I coupd swear iv seen some... Even having dual chipsets, x86 for Win + ARM for Android for dual boot, before Windows yet had ARM support. I remember being blown away lol that someone actually made such a device....hmm, maybe I just had a cool dream tho lol!
This tablet doest contain a keyboard like it pen ? I need to buy a device that is good for video and photo editing and compatible with adobe apps and pro tools software
If you need an amazing device for photo and video editing, personally, I would get a laptop. A Macbook or Dell XPS 15 series. If it's just photo editing and light video editing, an iPad Pro or iPad Air is also great.
Got it today. Facing issues with the Precision Pen 3. Somehow managed to update to latest version. Still not working. The Pen keeps getting disconnected and I am having to repeatedly keep it at the back
@@Haymaker72 So quick update. Got the tablet entirely replaced. Pen is working fine, but I noticed while writing cursive, there are occasions when the pen doesn't register quick and low pressure inputs. Screen quality is great, I didn't expect the screen to be so huge, but I'll get used to it. Its pretty close to Xiaomi Pad 5, both are Chinese. I don't regret buying it, but I'd recommend S8 without 5G to meet the price range.
It’s going for €420 from a major retailer in France right now but it seems like Lenovo doesn’t have any android update for it so it’s stuck on android 11… so basically a great media machine once apps stop supporting this version which was the norm 5 years ago.
well, it's not like there's a lot of things you can make with tablets or phones these days. they all do the same basically. it's just slabs of glass with tiny details. where some companies fail is support (especially updates) or regional pricing.
Wow if the info in the performance chart is real I think the iPad 9 2021 is still the best bang for buck tablet in the market, it still outperforms the Samsung tab s8+, that’s amazing considering it’s $330 price point
You are forgetting a much more important element than CPU performance, RAM. The iPad 9, while having a performance in line with the S8, has less than half the RAM, which means that apps and tabs will constantly reload, with loss of any data you have entered in the web page or document, for instance. That's also why it won't get features of iPadOS like external monitor support. Also the iPad 9 comes with no pencil in the box and the lightning port is good only for Apple focused peoples... and even then it's an inferior solution if you want to use external drives
@@_Digitalguy yo, it just costs $330, the galaxy tab s6 lite is more expensive than that, and i don't generally open more than 4 apps in the background anyway to bottleneck the ram + RAM management is much much better on ios devices due to it's hard ware to software optimization so the 3GB ram on an ipad would be equivalent to a 6gb android tablet and considering it's cheap price i think the ipad 9 is still the king in its segment and the most worth it product Apple sells so far, and for the Apple pencil: it's optional if you are an illustrator you should definitely get it because of the pressure sensitivity feature else there are Chinese active styluses available on the market ranging from $10 to $30 that does everything that an apple pencil can do exept pressure sensitivity
@@benton. if that's you max budget sure, but even in the iPad world (in case you don't want to go outside) you can get a much better device for more money
@@muneerfaizal7997 that's fanboy bs. I have almost 10 iPads with 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 8GB RAM, and 2 Android ones with 8 and 16GB RAM, one Android phone with 6 and I had in the past one android tablet with 4. 3GB RAM on iPad is at the very best equivalent to 4 on Android, not even close to 6, and I again I talk by experience. 8 GB RAM on Samsung retains more stuff in memory than 6GB on iPad. I know about the Chinese pencils knock off I got one for $15 (I also have 3 pencil 1 and 3 pencil 2). For me the lack of RAM in the iPad is more embarrassing that it outperforming by a few percentage points the Samsung flagship. Having said that, the main difference between you and me is bias. I don't give a sh*t about Apple or Samsung. I have devices from them, from Microsoft from HP, from Lenovo etc. I am in no ecosystem. I have my favorite devices too (the one I prefer overall is my M1 12.9 iPad pro), but each has its advantages and disadvantageous, I treat each device as a tool, not as part of a brand I love....
Why no audio jack? Ok, how many people used the USB-C connector for audio and end up the USB-C connector break? This connector is very precise with tight tolerances and prolonged use just destroys it. Hello! One could mitigate this by supplying two USB-C. on every device and this is happening already on larger laptops. So hop to it, Lenovo and give us an audio jack because I for one like my brain enough not to expose it to wireless.
This Lenovo tablet competes more with the Tab S7+ than with the Tab S8+, and even against the S7+ it doesn't really measure up. The Galaxy has better software, better software tracking over time, a much better pen and such... The only thing a little better with the Lenovo is perhaps its keyboard which is cheaper and a little better than the Tab S.
"Better Software" How so? If you mean the Bloatware that's included in Samsung devices, that's the farthest thing I can think of "Better Software" Furthermore, what the heck is "Better Software tracking over time" ?
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Whoever stumbles upon this comment. I bought the tablet to test, it's updated to Android 13. Hardware is excellent. Software sucks. Discovered several bugs. Very bare bones. Compared to a Samsung Tab s7+. You will need to install several apps to mimick what the Samsung does. Stock Android is nice for phones, but not a large screen tablet. If acquired for a good price, and way less than an equivelant Samsung where you live, it's an understandable compromise, but don't over pay.
I just received the P11 Pro 2nd Gen, on day 1 received 4 updates including Android 13..it's a beautiful tablet
Congratulations to your purchase. I'm close to purchasing the p11 pro gen 2 myself . Do u feel the p12 is a much better buy than the p11 pro . Did u buy the 11 because the size is handier ?
Hi Andrew, thank you. That's it, I just want to thank you. This review is the best I've seen on the P12 Pro. You cover all of the features and compare it with the iPad Pro and Galaxy S8+ very fairly. Some of the reviews miss the wireless keyboard feature, which is a very good one - and you might have missed the Time of Flight camera and good face recognition as a result - but only one or two reviewers have noted it. This review helped me to make my choice to buy a used version of this at a wonderful price. Thank you for this, and thank you for the great attention and interest that you invest in these tablet reviews. You are great. 🙏
Good, interesting review. I would have thought that the more direct competitor would be the slightly older tab s7+. This has the same software as the s8, a similar chipset to the Lenovo and likely a similar update horizon. This can also now be bought at a discounted price.
The last year edition premium tablet for 1200$ still runs Android 10
and i still run windows 10 on my high end gaming pc. does it matter? no.
Lenovo is the only Android OEM which produces great Android tablet other than Samsung.
Please get your hands on Lenovo Legion Y700!
The BIG problem with Lenovo tablets is that they suck at updating their products and rather just push out new products instead.
Thanks for this.. I'm missing however the measurements of the screen brightness. When using tablet outdoors this is the limiting factor and can be make or break. Also, because you set the screen brightness to maximum, the battery life tests are not objective. You should measure those at at the same brightness..
How does the mediatek processor in the lenovo Tab P12 fare when it comes to handling both gaming and productivity tasks?
This review is a year old and Levono has still not upgraded to Android 13 on the units they sell. I think ill wait to see if they ever do before i buy.
it has Android 13
You talk about how Apple has better performance, but to do what? It's so artificially limited with the software that it's performance you can't take advantage of. Who cares what the geek bench score is? If you have a 20/20 iPad Pro and you can even resize windows on an external monitor?
You are comparing a 2-y-o iPad which is stupid as the Lenovo is 2022; the iPad Pro M2 will be Apple's 2022 iPad! It will kill this tablet for performance being able to run 8 apps simultaneously even if they are Pro apps like Lumafusion and Procreate. Absolutely nonsense that iPads cannot use their power and typical trolling.
@@andyH_England You are comparing a $330 tablet to the upcoming iPad pro 2022 which will probably cost $1000 which is stupid
@@lmaoded4854 The Lenovo Tab P12 Pro is not $330. Tell me where I can buy for that. It is nearly £700 (£900 for the 8GB model) in the UK which is not far the price of the iPad Pro 11-inch M1! It is also still on Android 11 which makes me worry about future updates. I think sensible people will easily choose the iPad over the P12 Pro, or buy a Tab S8+ instead.
@@andyH_England in my country it has a estimated price of 38k inr(it hasn't launched yet) for comparison the base spec ipad pro costs 72k inr which is almost 2x the price and the s8+ costs 70k inr
If Mac OS was put into M1 iPad pro, they will introduce fan into iPad pro hardware, because they know majority of people will put hardware to a point of overheating that why they can put Mac os on the iPad pro.......they know, all will hear about apple M1 iPad pro, is beckmarking, nothing In the iPad OS that can push the CPU and GPU harder
This isn't an Tab S8 killer. It's a Tab S7 FE killer.
Been lenovo tablet fan since 2020 but my only complaint is i wish they offer more memory like some of other brands with the lenovo tablets only seem to go up to 128gb. While apple and some other brands can go up to 256gb, 512gb, and 1tb. Though lenovo still a good brand, esepcaily if on budget as some other brands tend to be expensive with you having to wait till they go on sale.
What's the hdmi in specs? Could it do 1080p @ 120Hz?
Lenovo onfuses me, what's the difference between their Duet Chromebook line and the tablets?? Can't you basically do the same work on them ??
Chromebooks run chrome os which have some android support, tablets run pure android so it supports more apps in general.
Do you choose this tablet (450$) or iPad gen 9 (270$)?
Love ur videos
I own a huuuge Android app ecosystem from productivity apps to games, but I would still love this thing in and would rather buy if it had a Windows version. Call me nerdy, but Android is a waste on such a big beautiful screen... or how about them dual boot Android-Windows tabs? Any high end ones with this dual OS feature? Thanks for ze video! 🍻
There's not Android-Windows-Dual-Boot tablet at the moment. But you could build your own with every Windows tablet except for the ARM ones.
You may want to check out the ideapad duet 5i, which is similar in size and runs windows 11.
@@UnrealBeauti thank You so much for the recommendation! ☺ 🍻 🍻!!
@@MyNextTablet oh? I coupd swear iv seen some... Even having dual chipsets, x86 for Win + ARM for Android for dual boot, before Windows yet had ARM support. I remember being blown away lol that someone actually made such a device....hmm, maybe I just had a cool dream tho lol!
Good interesting review. I´m suprise how good the tablet Lenovo are
Show me how to use the pen
How about connecting to external monitor ?
Does it have palm rejection?
Yes
This tablet doest contain a keyboard like it pen ?
I need to buy a device that is good for video and photo editing and compatible with adobe apps and pro tools software
If you need an amazing device for photo and video editing, personally, I would get a laptop. A Macbook or Dell XPS 15 series. If it's just photo editing and light video editing, an iPad Pro or iPad Air is also great.
Got it today. Facing issues with the Precision Pen 3. Somehow managed to update to latest version. Still not working. The Pen keeps getting disconnected and I am having to repeatedly keep it at the back
Besides the pen how is the screen quality and such?
@@Haymaker72 So quick update. Got the tablet entirely replaced. Pen is working fine, but I noticed while writing cursive, there are occasions when the pen doesn't register quick and low pressure inputs. Screen quality is great, I didn't expect the screen to be so huge, but I'll get used to it. Its pretty close to Xiaomi Pad 5, both are Chinese. I don't regret buying it, but I'd recommend S8 without 5G to meet the price range.
@@varunkumar1724bhai bhai just got it yesterday. Home button back button yeh sub ni h bhai. Please tell how to get that.
Holly krap your handwriting is actually worse than mine! I never thought I'd ever say that to someone lol! Congratulations 🎊! 😁
This should be a $400 tablet bundled with the keypad and maybe Pen....
With those specs there is no way they could hit that price
It’s going for €420 from a major retailer in France right now but it seems like Lenovo doesn’t have any android update for it so it’s stuck on android 11… so basically a great media machine once apps stop supporting this version which was the norm 5 years ago.
Here's another request for a review of the Legion Y700. I've been waiting for something like it since the Nvidia Shield.
nice copy of samsung, design and also the accessories
well, it's not like there's a lot of things you can make with tablets or phones these days. they all do the same basically. it's just slabs of glass with tiny details. where some companies fail is support (especially updates) or regional pricing.
How else do you make a tablet?
@@aeipee13 with legs mate. And maybe some cup holders.
@@LilacSky1 they all copied me. I had a piece of wood the same size in 1999. They just put a screen.
@@lucascarracedo7421 you bought that wood of me so technically I own the rights
does this tablet have 5g version
It does
I Love this Big Tablet!!! 100% My Taste for Watching a lot Videos with this Tablet!!! @.@
How is it viewing personal pictures and videos downloaded from your phone? Colour wise?
In a year or two Lenovo might surpass Samsung
Wow if the info in the performance chart is real I think the iPad 9 2021 is still the best bang for buck tablet in the market, it still outperforms the Samsung tab s8+, that’s amazing considering it’s $330 price point
You are forgetting a much more important element than CPU performance, RAM. The iPad 9, while having a performance in line with the S8, has less than half the RAM, which means that apps and tabs will constantly reload, with loss of any data you have entered in the web page or document, for instance. That's also why it won't get features of iPadOS like external monitor support. Also the iPad 9 comes with no pencil in the box and the lightning port is good only for Apple focused peoples... and even then it's an inferior solution if you want to use external drives
@@_Digitalguy yo, it just costs $330, the galaxy tab s6 lite is more expensive than that, and i don't generally open more than 4 apps in the background anyway to bottleneck the ram + RAM management is much much better on ios devices due to it's hard ware to software optimization so the 3GB ram on an ipad would be equivalent to a 6gb android tablet and considering it's cheap price i think the ipad 9 is still the king in its segment and the most worth it product Apple sells so far, and for the Apple pencil: it's optional if you are an illustrator you should definitely get it because of the pressure sensitivity feature else there are Chinese active styluses available on the market ranging from $10 to $30 that does everything that an apple pencil can do exept pressure sensitivity
@@_Digitalguy ps: the entry level ipad performs better than the flagship android tablet made by Samsung : that's Embarrassing
@@benton. if that's you max budget sure, but even in the iPad world (in case you don't want to go outside) you can get a much better device for more money
@@muneerfaizal7997 that's fanboy bs. I have almost 10 iPads with 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 8GB RAM, and 2 Android ones with 8 and 16GB RAM, one Android phone with 6 and I had in the past one android tablet with 4. 3GB RAM on iPad is at the very best equivalent to 4 on Android, not even close to 6, and I again I talk by experience. 8 GB RAM on Samsung retains more stuff in memory than 6GB on iPad. I know about the Chinese pencils knock off I got one for $15 (I also have 3 pencil 1 and 3 pencil 2). For me the lack of RAM in the iPad is more embarrassing that it outperforming by a few percentage points the Samsung flagship. Having said that, the main difference between you and me is bias. I don't give a sh*t about Apple or Samsung. I have devices from them, from Microsoft from HP, from Lenovo etc. I am in no ecosystem. I have my favorite devices too (the one I prefer overall is my M1 12.9 iPad pro), but each has its advantages and disadvantageous, I treat each device as a tool, not as part of a brand I love....
No LTE option
5g
Also no updates I had my Lenovo P12 Pro since January and it's still on Android 11
@@matthewwhitted9179 go check updates in the settings it should be there now.
@@andrewdaley5480
Thanks for the update I did that 2 weeks ago I'm now on Android 12.1 really looking good we will be lucky to ever see Android 13
@@matthewwhitted9179 you will get it but it will not be till about June /July. I'm guessing. 🇬🇧👍
ok
Why no audio jack? Ok, how many people used the USB-C connector for audio and end up the USB-C connector break? This connector is very precise with tight tolerances and prolonged use just destroys it. Hello! One could mitigate this by supplying two USB-C. on every device and this is happening already on larger laptops. So hop to it, Lenovo and give us an audio jack because I for one like my brain enough not to expose it to wireless.
Unic UI
This Lenovo tablet competes more with the Tab S7+ than with the Tab S8+, and even against the S7+ it doesn't really measure up.
The Galaxy has better software, better software tracking over time, a much better pen and such...
The only thing a little better with the Lenovo is perhaps its keyboard which is cheaper and a little better than the Tab S.
"Better Software" How so? If you mean the Bloatware that's included in Samsung devices, that's the farthest thing I can think of "Better Software"
Furthermore, what the heck is "Better Software tracking over time" ?
garbage tablet. i ended up smashing it when the keyboard kept disappearing every 2 letters. worst tablet i ever owned. .
That’s very common with most Bluetooth keyboards and I’m surprised the pogo pins are using Bluetooth for connection.
No 3:2 or 4:3 aspect ratio !! Bad !
4:3 ratio is crap