Goddamn Tim, people used to get burned at the stake for that kind of magic. My favorite thing you do is bring a wonderful balance to all the cymbals you work on. The consistency between the Mods and your own cymbals despite size or weight is really impressive.
This, to my ears, is a perfect mod. Exactly what this particular cymbal needed to be truly effective across a multitude of musical styles, and definitely able to be used in small-venue gigs all the way up to larger performing spaces. Great, great work. I’ve got to contact you soon about a similar mod of my K Con.
I know this is an older video so some more insight on this process would be awesome because it seems like my perception of hammering already formed B20 cymbals is wrong now. Idk in my experience with cymbal modding and seeing a few other people modifying B20 years and years ago, it would always yield cracking where the hammer marks were. Whereas B8 responded well to hammering which is why when I did rehammering I would go for B8 or brass or on occasion some old Nickel Silver cymbals. I never had good experiences with rehammering B20 so the fact that you got good and probably long lasting results is really cool but confusing to me.
I've probably rehammered over 1500 b20 cymbals at this point, and as long as you have good anvil contact (and the metal isn't compromised) the cymbal will be ok. Even old bronze can fairly workable via cold-forming.
@@ReverieDrumCo Appreciate the response on this! My setup def wasn't professional nor were my techniques really there yet so I image that's why my results were never good compared to yours. Your videos are making me want to get back into modding. I have a semi hammered blank collecting dust that I'd love to actually make into something usable.
Nice. I have a K Con that was modified by Jesse Simpson, pretty sure he basically did the same thing but no latheing. My cymbal is a 20" Medium Thin High.
Great if you could mod cheaper B8 Paiste cymbals (Alpha, PST5 & PST7) and make them sound like 2002's. Please explain the differences between these cymbal lines and the 2002's.
The B8 stuff has a higher copper to tin ratio, which means the metal is softer and more malleable. This translates into a less resonant and musical sound in general. The tin gives the alloy a brittleness that also equates to tone and sustain. Because of that, B8 material is much more limited when it comes to mods. They tend to sound hollow and dead when they are shaved thin and heavily hammered. Anytime I've modded those cymbals, I do a very mild amount of work.
Tbh i’ve never been a fan of k cons, which disappoints me because they look so cool and sound great online, in person they never impressed me much though.
What a repulsive sound originally.... metallic, silvery, yelling, uncontrollable, still restricted... I would never have taken that cymbal home from the drum shop. If the purpose was to make a medium bright, kind of pingy ride with fair amount of definition and musical wash underneath, then Zildjian should have studied how Istanbul Agop does it with f.ex. Special Edition Fusion ride. I don't understand Zildjian nowadays. I used to prefer their stuff somewhere in the 80's. You really did the only thing that should have done with that plate in the first place
Goddamn Tim, people used to get burned at the stake for that kind of magic. My favorite thing you do is bring a wonderful balance to all the cymbals you work on. The consistency between the Mods and your own cymbals despite size or weight is really impressive.
Wow! Thanks John!
I love the ending lower pitch...while I can still hear that 'shimmer' it seems much more mellow and more in the 'background'....incredible work.
Thank you!
Sounds more like a K Con Power ride, it sounds heavier than my 22" Paiste 2002 ride. Amazing mod you did here, Cheers!
This, to my ears, is a perfect mod. Exactly what this particular cymbal needed to be truly effective across a multitude of musical styles, and definitely able to be used in small-venue gigs all the way up to larger performing spaces. Great, great work. I’ve got to contact you soon about a similar mod of my K Con.
Thank you! I was happy with how this one turned out for sure.
Genius! I wish you lived on my side of the world ✌️🇦🇺
It's an amazing transformation of sound .its more of K. Konstantnaoble sound after the work Timathey put into it..... impressive result. 👍
Thank you!
I like what you did with it, my own ride could do with drying out, but duct tape will have to do and international shipping isnt cost effective.
Great cymbal before and great great great cymbal after!
Beautiful Work Mr.Roberts ❤🙌🥁
Thank you, thank you!
Much better! I had a 1st generation K Con Light Ride that had the exact same issue.
nice mod - definitely improved the cymbal !
You're GOOD. Brilliant transformation.
Thanks!
Nice job, Timothy. 👏
On Point!! Absolutely beautiful!!! 💯 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Great modification - sounds really good!!
Thanks!
Fantastic job.
This kind of Mod would be great on a 2002...let's see one Tim!
I'll do it next time I get one in!
Excellent!
Superb!!!
I’d like to see you work on a budget cymbal. Zildjian scimitar , Serbian B eight ,something on those lines would you and be interesting
I know this is an older video so some more insight on this process would be awesome because it seems like my perception of hammering already formed B20 cymbals is wrong now. Idk in my experience with cymbal modding and seeing a few other people modifying B20 years and years ago, it would always yield cracking where the hammer marks were. Whereas B8 responded well to hammering which is why when I did rehammering I would go for B8 or brass or on occasion some old Nickel Silver cymbals. I never had good experiences with rehammering B20 so the fact that you got good and probably long lasting results is really cool but confusing to me.
I've probably rehammered over 1500 b20 cymbals at this point, and as long as you have good anvil contact (and the metal isn't compromised) the cymbal will be ok. Even old bronze can fairly workable via cold-forming.
@@ReverieDrumCo Appreciate the response on this! My setup def wasn't professional nor were my techniques really there yet so I image that's why my results were never good compared to yours. Your videos are making me want to get back into modding. I have a semi hammered blank collecting dust that I'd love to actually make into something usable.
Sound good!
3:57 hahaha perfect!
Way better after the mod
seems like you get these a lot
Yeah, I really do. They're so expensive that people think they should sound amazing, but many of them fall flat.
Sounds like a cymbal Bill Stewart would play.
Music to my ears!
Nice. I have a K Con that was modified by Jesse Simpson, pretty sure he basically did the same thing but no latheing. My cymbal is a 20" Medium Thin High.
Very nice! Jesse does great work.
What is that second stick that you always use? The one with the thick click sound
That's the VicFirth SD2 Bolero
@@ReverieDrumCo the stick that makes every cymbal sound like an old K
@@mannys1930 yeah it definitely is the most distinct stick sound that exists, in my opinion.
Great if you could mod cheaper B8 Paiste cymbals (Alpha, PST5 & PST7) and make them sound like 2002's. Please explain the differences between these cymbal lines and the 2002's.
The B8 stuff has a higher copper to tin ratio, which means the metal is softer and more malleable. This translates into a less resonant and musical sound in general. The tin gives the alloy a brittleness that also equates to tone and sustain. Because of that, B8 material is much more limited when it comes to mods. They tend to sound hollow and dead when they are shaved thin and heavily hammered. Anytime I've modded those cymbals, I do a very mild amount of work.
@@ReverieDrumCo Thanks Tim for all that information about B8 cymbals.
Tbh i’ve never been a fan of k cons, which disappoints me because they look so cool and sound great online, in person they never impressed me much though.
You and me both!
I agree. They always have tons of hum and such a piercing bell for no reason lol
What a repulsive sound originally.... metallic, silvery, yelling, uncontrollable, still restricted... I would never have taken that cymbal home from the drum shop. If the purpose was to make a medium bright, kind of pingy ride with fair amount of definition and musical wash underneath, then Zildjian should have studied how Istanbul Agop does it with f.ex. Special Edition Fusion ride. I don't understand Zildjian nowadays. I used to prefer their stuff somewhere in the 80's.
You really did the only thing that should have done with that plate in the first place
Wow didn't it's would turn that great!