To be honest, I'm a huge fan of the Turk-style sound, so I was thinking, "Is he going to destroy the sound of this cymbal?" But my goodness, the "after" cymbal is so beautiful! Amazing expansion of the bright sticking and a lovely, super-low wash. Fantastic job!
The after mod cymbal is way better in so many ways. It's more versatile, has a sweet stick attack, a wider frequency range, and looks to be more playable. Big improvement overall!
nice work. the original sounded good as well. interesting how you can see the hammering pattern on the turk version. depending on the light, you really see narrow bows of hammermarks from bell to edge. are these done with an air pressure hammer by istanbul??
Yeah, I agree. It was a really nice sounding cymbal before. Yeah those are certainly done by a human-operated machine. A lot of turkish brands utilize machine hammering in their production process.
Wow!, Prof Roberts does it again!. This is an interesting one, as I like that Turk Mehmet as it was. As far as Turks go this was a good example. It was what it was..... sharp stick, kinda clangy, dry and raw. You transformed it into a very different instrument. The stick def is much warmer with a sweeter spread all around. The personality is now "broader". I'd say you gave the customer exactly what they were asking for. Now I'm looking at my old Bosphorus Turk Series thin 21 & 1/2" (2669g), and wondering what it could become?? 🤔
Thanks John! I agree that the original example was really nice and an example of a good Turk style Ride. That gave me a really nice place to start from.
I'm so glad I checked out your channel! Been following you on instagram for a while, but now you're helping me on the way to becoming a cymbal nerd haha! Quick question, what do you think about Agop's 30th anniversary rides? The are completely hand hammered, right? And do you have any experiences modifying one? Thanks
Thanks Joel! I have modified a bunch of 30ths actually. Not all of them are well tuned/balanced so they can have really prominent hums and tones that muddy up the overall sound. Just my opinion though!
Sounded like a bin lid on the way in, left like shimmering gem. Personally, I feel like crusty, dark, ultra dry cymbals are something of a fad that will pass. They look cool but they sound... well I don't like it and they often disappear, sonically in a band context
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You really are a master of your craft. Thanks for another great video Tim!
Thanks broski!
hi there
To be honest, I'm a huge fan of the Turk-style sound, so I was thinking, "Is he going to destroy the sound of this cymbal?" But my goodness, the "after" cymbal is so beautiful! Amazing expansion of the bright sticking and a lovely, super-low wash. Fantastic job!
Thank you! I was definitely a fan of the before version. It was a really nice sounding turk!
These vids are so informative, yet so fun to watch. Keep doing what your doing Timothy, its great.
This for me was the best work you've done, it sounds amazing
Thanks! 🙌
Great mod! Ilove that you were able to keep the glassy stick attack after lathing.
Thanks Jerrold!
Now this is cool. Great job with explaining and executing.
The after mod cymbal is way better in so many ways. It's more versatile, has a sweet stick attack, a wider frequency range, and looks to be more playable. Big improvement overall!
I thought to myself, how’s this guy gonna take an already great sounding cymbal and make it better? Dude, somehow you did it!
Thanks Jason!
Beautiful work!
I liked the original ride.
I LOVE the finished mod!
Great work!
Thanks!
I'm interested in taking it the other way. Maybe a refiring and hammering of a lathed cymbal into something much more dark toned and dry.
Yeah that would be cool! My version of this is my “tributary” series where I add a heavy artificial patina to thin and washy cymbals.
Cool! Sounds like a thin K Jazz ride! The spread is wild!!
Thanks Ben!
Both are nice
I've never played either... but of all the dozens of videos I've watched for both companies, I like the Mehmet cymbals over the Agop cymbals.
They are definitely more consistent!
I think you just changed a beer into champagne. Beautiful sounding results. (new sub) Thanks and Blessings!
Thanks!
GREAT WORK! Just put some quick teaser playing clips at the front.
Roger that!
great vid and mod
nice work. the original sounded good as well. interesting how you can see the hammering pattern on the turk version. depending on the light, you really see narrow bows of hammermarks from bell to edge. are these done with an air pressure hammer by istanbul??
Yeah, I agree. It was a really nice sounding cymbal before.
Yeah those are certainly done by a human-operated machine. A lot of turkish brands utilize machine hammering in their production process.
Wow!, Prof Roberts does it again!. This is an interesting one, as I like that Turk Mehmet as it was. As far as Turks go this was a good example. It was what it was..... sharp stick, kinda clangy, dry and raw. You transformed it into a very different instrument. The stick def is much warmer with a sweeter spread all around. The personality is now "broader".
I'd say you gave the customer exactly what they were asking for.
Now I'm looking at my old Bosphorus Turk Series thin 21 & 1/2" (2669g), and wondering what it could become?? 🤔
Thanks John! I agree that the original example was really nice and an example of a good Turk style Ride. That gave me a really nice place to start from.
Killer Timothy!
I'm so glad I checked out your channel! Been following you on instagram for a while, but now you're helping me on the way to becoming a cymbal nerd haha! Quick question, what do you think about Agop's 30th anniversary rides? The are completely hand hammered, right? And do you have any experiences modifying one? Thanks
Thanks Joel!
I have modified a bunch of 30ths actually. Not all of them are well tuned/balanced so they can have really prominent hums and tones that muddy up the overall sound. Just my opinion though!
The Turk is not my cup of tea, but what it got transformed into sounded like a K-Con ! Nice
Thanks Dilan!
I would have skip lathed the top and wire brushed the bottom. The wash has lost complexity with the stick sound has gained complexity
That would be a cool way to process the cymbal! I couldn't have done it that way since the customer wanted about 300g taken off.
Should have just bought the Turk Jazz series.
Well, sometimes you gotta work with what you have!
Sounded like a bin lid on the way in, left like shimmering gem. Personally, I feel like crusty, dark, ultra dry cymbals are something of a fad that will pass. They look cool but they sound... well I don't like it and they often disappear, sonically in a band context