Here in the jungle in Costa Rica we do not have much, but we do have WD-40. Your method worked perfectly on my 10 year-old Niva. I can read the piston stamps as clear as new! You are too humble.
I am not a mechanic although I worked on my own cars in the 70's and 80's. Here is a tip I always remembered from my father. You can build a grease dam around each Piston crown at the sleave when removing carbon. This will help with debree getting down between the crown. Then when done move the Piston a little down and wipe the wall and piston clean.
Fuck me that's one helluva smart trick! I had my engine head off and wanted to clean the block whilst it was still in the bay. After a bit of scrubbing I realized I got a shitload of debris and scotchbrite pad material down in the channels and around the piston rings. But then I noticed the block was junk anyway so I took it off and junked it. But next time I'm doing the block still in the car, I will use your dad's method!
A trick that I read about online, that I have used with good results, is to smear a little grease on the cylinder wall, then rotate the crank so that the piston pushes the grease to the top of the cylinder, then let the piston go back down. Any dust, dirt or debris that has fallen into the piston/cylinder gap will get stuck in the grease! Now you can simply wipe the ring of grease out of the cylinder taking any crud with it :)
Wow, that came out looking amazing, especially for a first pass! I think there's a lot of value in showing things not brought to absolute perfection. For the DIY folks, as well as for techs new to the industry, it can be difficult to get a feel for what's "okay," and what isn't. Experience is the best teacher, but example comes in a close second! :)
just as a matter of interested, the complete meaning of WD-40 is water displacement formula #40, as that formula was obviously the 40th attempt at an H2O displacement product. I totally dig your videos. Well presented with no unnecessary rambling about whatever, to the point with great info. I'd never seen nor heard of the WD-40 and Scotch Brite on the piston tops. Superb idea. Thanks and keep up the great vid's.
I have met other "so called" mechanics that could do an engine "overhaul" in three hours. It took me three hours just to get the engine out and stripped down. Then started the cleaning!!!
I pretty much watch all your vids just to try and understand how your so calm, cool, and collected. I just got the heads of my 5.3 in my work truck and every single chevy forum said to never scrape or use the scotch bright. But I trust you more than I trust them.
I'd use a lacquer thinner to dissolve the carbon first. It will clean off faster with no scraping. Using WD40 AFTER that does seem like a good idea. I have decarboned many 2-stroke airplane engines and have never used any kind of scraper. Just shop towels. NO scrape marks anywhere!
I think you should mention that depending on the material the block is made from, different tools and techniques should be used to prevent damage to the mating surfaces of aluminium blocks.
As a qualified motor engineer with 50 years on my clock, might I ask about the piston rings ? This is a 140,000+mile, engine. I agree that the cylinder bore 'cross hatching' marks being visible indicate limited wear & assuming there are no vertical plane scoring marks present then everything down the bores is all OK. However ! (There's always a however) on my vast and comprehensive experience with bashing engines with hammers, I would like to point out the fact that 9 out of 10 engines that I have stripped have the piston rings stuck in the piston lands. The piston rings in most cases need to be removed, sometimes even broken to remove them from the piston. I ask, if the 'crosshatch' marks are visible and there's a 'within tolerence' 'Bore step' on this high mileage engine, would it not be prudent to assume that the piston rings have stuck, thereby causing excessive oil consumption etc. and as you've gone the trouble of half stripping the engine, to remove the piston & conrod assemblies ? I know its a can of worms but at high mileage, the crank bearings might be well worn. I understand that this video deals with block levelling but attention is being given to the bore condition & I thought my input might be of some help. Respectfully. Not a criticism, just observations based on a career lifetime of engine rebuild fails ! Nice informative video by the way. My respects, Johns MG Rover parts.
Your correct with that many millage them crosshatch should not be visible. Bizarre,then again it's been some time I viewed iron walls, working on today's motorcycle engine using chrome nickasilk
@@prevost8686 modern VW engines have many issues with oil scraper pistons rings: they are thin and the oil holes are very tiny and if the case the car is use most in city and not frequent oil drain with high quality oil, this holes are many times clogged= high oil consumption, and looks like the engine whe see here as such issue because the thick oily residues on the pistons and cylinder walls...
Lots of great information in this vid. Over the years I’ve found hot soapy water works great for carbon deposits. I’m not recommending in this particular case, but if you’ve got parts off that have carbon deposits on them that needs to come off, try soaking them in hot soapy water. You’ll be amazed at how fast and easy the carbon comes off. It does have to soak for a bit, but man, sparkling clean.
Just did had gasket on my 2002 Civic with 285,000 mi on it. I took a fine tooth wire wheel to the tops of the pistons... It got some carbon off but not all. I feel skeptical that it would have gone quite so easy peasy if I'd tried this method! How many times have I seen something on TH-cam and then when I put it to practice in real life, doesn't work out quite as promised. Humble mechanic You seem like a good guy and in real life I'd definitely give you a shot! Just saying I've been burnt by TH-cam before. Anybody try this method and not have it work out quite so easy? Granted 285 is more than 140... That's a lot more miles/ time for the carbon to harden.
Nice production values - great lighting and camera work. Looks a lot easier than the engine project I did without WD. I used a metal stripper and the fumes were nasty.
Great tech tip. I've been an engine builder for decades. It's always nice to learn something new. As for the scraper, I no longer see my Snap On guy. I did find out that the Bluepoint scraper is mand by Bahco. I bought one on Amazon. Thanks again for the info.
great tips! when i restored my old vintage Lamborghini tractor engine i had to took off a lot of built carbon from the cylinder head. unfortunately i didn't know this method with DW40. thanks man!
The best thing I have found for this task is Chore Boy Stainless Steel scrubbing pads. These pads are like steel wool pads, but instead it is a thin, narrow, tighly coiled SS ribbon formed into a pad.These are made for cleaning cooked on crud on frying pans and such. They cut through the carbon like it was butter, and are non-abrasive, unlike Scotchbrite pads. I cleaned the carbon build up in the cylinders and on the pistons on my Kia 4-banger that I am working on, and it took no time at all.
I clicked on this video just to say I use WD40 to clean carbon from pistons and heads but I see that's what you use too. lol! Best product ever. Will even free stuck rings in high mileage engines.
What provision do you have for removal of the deposits that make their way through the gap(aided by liquid)and in behind the rings. ?..,especially the top ring ? I am concerned that since cylinders all wear more up top, the crud will make a tight situation, especially at the bottom,since it has flowed in under the rings.Myself,(and I usually work on slow ,non performance antique engines)I was taught to neck down your shop vac hose and GENTLY scrape it loose still DRY , and vacuum it out as soon as it comes loose .You can tape the hose to scraper 1/2 "inch from the end and the suction will offset gravity. (carbon is abrasive).
Wow! I was just going to put same comment @5:56 but you beat me to it. A fine example of why you DONT use a blade on a gasket surface, especially Head Gasket, especially aluminum. Im shocked he used it to begin with. "Cost me 20$ for the scrapper" and 150$+ to deck the block along with 25$ for a head spacer. He did mention using a roloc, better choice.
I dont want to make it sound like I'm cutting down the Humble Mechanic, just pointing out even those with much experience can still make a mistake with a scrapper. Having said that, it wasn't the end of the world, it wasn't in an area where the gasket would be up against a critical sealing surface and contrary to another comment above, buffing it out only makes it worse, do that and now you have a larger low area. So never buff it out. I'm am painstakingly scraping over a cylinder head now with a plastic blade that I'm constantly sharpening and brushing acetone on it in between. I really want to use a nice razor blade and I'd be a liar if I said I've never done that before, but I dont anymore. Think I'll get a roloc. I'm going to be at this for a few weeks with these results.
@@ColdWarVet607 it's fine to use a carbide scraper on aluminum, but you need to do it correctly. I'm more worried about all the chunks of carbon that are now in the gap between the piston and bore, getting into the rings.
All I have to say is thank you so much. I have never been able to clean the top of pictures as well as you did in this video. I know this is an older video and you might not ever see my comment but I still wanted to thank you for sharing. I also love that WD-40 spray bottle. I could not even guess how many times I have sprayed myself in the face with the aerosol can. Again thank you for your time all sharing this with all of us and it will definitely come in handy for me. I have 2 Motor jobs sitting outside my garage and I'm definitely using your technique.
A good way to ruin a motor. Scotch-brite is aluminum oxide which is incredibility hard and if you get that inside the motor it will be toast in no time.
I was rolling my eyes, until I looked it up. Al2O3 hardness: 9. Iron hardness: 4. Scotch-brite materials: spun polypropylene fiber, with nine grit variations, most of which incorporate Al2O3 or similar high-hardness abrasives. (Source: wikipedia) Also, BobIsTheOilGuy confirms. Thanks!
We're not talking about scratches on the head, we're talking about very hard particulates sluffing off of the Scotch-brite pad and getting down into the engine, where they make their way to bearing surfaces and destroy them.
I did this on my XJ's I6 engine a few months ago with nearly 200k miles on it. It definitely is as easy as your video shows. Felt good to clean all that build up off.
did you it with the engine out? i’m cutting getting my cylinder head machined and was wondering if it can be done with the bloc still in the engine bay.
I love how 95% of people who have posted NO informational posting on auto repairs chirp up about someone else's shortcoming after sitting back int their Directors chair pointing every little thing "wrong" with this post. Sweep off your own front porch and thanks for posting Charles.
Scotchbrite is abrasive, scratches like sandpaper and also leaves a residue. WD-40 is just light fish oil. I use bbq foam grill cleaner and a plastic brush. Press a bead of heavy grease around the top of the piston to block abrasives from getting trapped between the piston and wall. To do a thorough clean, spray or brush a light coat of paint thinner and blow the carbon and abrasives out of the space between the piston and wall, with compressed air. Place a shop towel over the cylinder to contain the aerosol solution.
David Plass oh dam I have a old corsair front end destroyed but only has 678 miles on it I but it's still inside the car and Its really rusted the engine is alluminum so that's not rusted but the bolts and stuff holdinf it is
Razor blades and Liquid Wrench are whats in my toolbox. The 3M pads will polish it up nicely. Great video. Strange VW 6 cylinder. Lopsided combustion chamber.
As a machinist, DO NOT use an air or electric powered grinder / sander with a roll lock disc! You can not keep the disc straight when sanding. You always end up with low spots in the deck surface or rounded corners of water jackets and bores!
Yep, made that mistake with my Oldsmobile alero 10 years ago. Just bought a new 2017 Honda HR-V in 2017 and will only clean the engine as this guy has stated in the video when the time comes. 148,000 miles in, and it runs like a champ.
This method actually worked really well for me. The wd and pads makes the gasket lift right off. The one thing was the debris getting better the piston and cylinder walls, I ended up getting a bit out but I’m not sure if I need to be worried or not
How much of that SB pad are you leaving between the cylinder wall & piston top & in the ring groove ? You know there's been many TSBs saying to not use SB disks but SB is SB. "Scotch-Brite is a line of abrasive cleaning pads produced by 3M. The original product line consisted of spun polypropylene fiber with about nine grit variations. Scotch-Brite also contains "Alox", which is a trade name for aluminum oxide." & "Aluminium oxide is used for its hardness and strength. It is widely used as an abrasive, including as a much less expensive substitute for industrial diamond"
I had the same concern. I once worked with a diesel mechanic doing a head gasket job on a mack truck, he did basically what is shown in this video. I now work at a reputable engine machine shop running the cleaning area and I use wire brush wheels to clean cast iron gasket surfaces, does not remove metal unless I dwell too long or run up an edge. I would recommend a wire wheel for a mechanic as well, it's going to make less abrasive debris.
CHARLIE ARROYO First off a SB pad will not give the specific surface recommended by any gasket manufacturer. You can google "gasket surface recommendation" if you care for the facts. SB does however give a great surface if you use silicone excessively instead of a "gasket" like so many uneducated so called mechanics do. But then again you have an abrasive particle issue. & Any abrasive left in any engine is not a good thing and it will eventually if not immediately do damage.
+B Anno You are getting a little too technical now. Do you think gas stations gave a fuck in the 1930s what the microns of a head were when they changed a model A head gasket. Get with the program.
B Anno Correct! NEVER USE SCOTCHBRITE TO CLEAN UP GASKET SURFACES OF AN ENGINE. NEVER, EVER, EVER USE SCOTCHBRITE ON AN ENGINE. At least not one you want to run again for a long time. Scotchbrite seems so benign but it is death to engines. Scotchbrite pads are nylon fibers with 40 micron particles of aluminum oxide in them. Scotchbrite dust leaves behind all those 40 micron particles hidden everywhere. Aluminum oxide is an extremely aggressive abrasive. It imbeds in the bearings and eats the crank....and other things. Scotchbrite is the bane of the aftermarket re-man engine industry. www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=563163
when i changed my sparks plugs (audi a5), i first poured chemtool B12 fuel system cleaner into the combustion chambers, let it soak till it evaporated. it definitely loosened the carbon. though, for best results is to let B12 soak for several days, scrubbing not needed. somewhere on youtube, there was a test (soak for 10 days !) of various fuel system cleaners on carbon, B12 was the most aggressive. just be careful not to get on rubber or plastic.
yo guys. wd40 is a great and reliable product. it's great to prevent rust on items you're leaving sit for a long time, clean tools, get rust off, clean grease. it is not however a lubricant, any beginner hobby mechanic knows this. the best part is it flashes off exhaust and such with less smelly smoke than most other cleaners or nut looseners. that said, why are people bitching about him using wd40 for this job? it's a great product for said task lol.
Great feedback. I was really surprised how well WD40 worked here. I have found that people have several issues. 1) Any time a video is sponsored, there is kick back. It could be the best product ever and there would be heartburn 2) People have intense brand loyalty. If I shoot a video about Mobile1, the Mobile one haters will hate, even though they make a great product. 3)Most people don't consider it a professional brand. I don't really get that, because I have seen WD40 in tons of shops over the years. It is really interesting to do videos like this and see the comments. We(me included) become married to our beliefs and often struggle to be open to different ways of doing things.
I totally see what you're saying on all 3 points bro. I think the bigger issue is people don't even know how t use what they have. Use Brakleen as MAF cleaner, MAF breaks, they complain, use torque wrench as a breaker bar, it stops working they complain, use WD40 as a purpose made lubricant, or cleaner, they complain... I guess the consistency is, people just love to complain haha.
I always pull my plugs and spray the hell out of the cylinders for long periods. I just pulled a 355 apart that I stored since 1990, the cylinders had zero rust, and I live 2 miles from salt water.
I always save the WD-40 red straw and leave it in the glove box. Once I drowned an AMC eagle up to the dash and got water in the carb. When we got it out of the puddle, I used the red straw to suck the float bowls clean with my mouth to get it running. It worked good.
Charles aren't you concerned that bolting a the head on with the valves making a nice tight seal that you will induce blow by past the old tings & bore? Or did you do a leak-down test to confirm the rings were good. Thanks for these very informative videos, keep them coming.
+Chuck Ashton at this point I am not worried about it. The engine ran well before hand. The WORST case is, I have to replace the rings down the road. While I a confident that everything will be fine, I don't mind doing rings down the road.
I have always used an air angle die grinder with a cookie (scotchbrite) wheel to clean up blocks and heads.I have never had the patience to try to clean up M.L.S. gasket from an Engine.I give you credit for that.Even though I'm not a VW guy,I love seeing any type of major Engine work done.Great Videos!
Ive worked in a machine shop for 11+ years and the worst thing you can do is take a roloc or buzz wheel to clean a deck surface.. this is common practice in "mechanics shops" and that makes me sick and such a horrible technique is in constant use... ps lacquer thinner and a rag will take that carbon off faster and safer than Getting SB debris inside the chamber
Logically speaking. Any kind of roloc debris left in the chamber will be blown out. Any kind of debris in the cooling jackets will be burned up or just circulated.same with an oil galley. The hell you talkin bout
I am OK with the Roll lock desk.But everything has to be sealed on that engine first so no debris get into anything. I would never use it on pistons. I’ve seen many mechanics destroy engines because of it. The person needs to use their head about it. I’m at 25+ year technician.
My go to fluids for any mechanical repairs: Deep Creep for loosening nuts and bolts WD 40 for Cleaning Carbon or preventing rust Paint Thinner for washing parts Acetone or Brake Cleaner and compressed air for final clean up right before assembly
If your working on an older engine sometimes the head gaskets contained asbestos so it might be a good idea to wear a respirator when cleaning the surfaces.
yeah i found this out a few days ago when i wrestled the heads off my 1980 AMC Jeep 360; There was a thick grey silver coating on the block and head surfaces at first i thought someone put the heads on with a coating of JB weld all over the head gaskets; So i checked the factory manual and it turns out the head gaskets were aluminum and asbestos fiber laminated steel... with asbestos only being phased out of the auto industry with in the last decade or so it could be contained in head gaskets in many makes years and models.
I'm a mechanic and, at work, I use the 3M nylon bristle discs on an air die grinder on any precision machined engine mating surfaces. Best engine work "cookies" ever. They remove all foreign material while NOT removing any of the precision substrate material. And if any shavings get down in the engine, it's no big deal, because it's just soft plastic. No air compressor? No problem... throw the Roloc mandril in an electric drill. :) Personally, I like white (fine) and yellow (medium) for heads and decks. Anything else, green or whatever color you want is fine.
Is there such a thing with no grit in it? 3M Nylon bristle discs incorporate "proprietary" ceramic abrasives (my guess, aluminum oxide, same as what is on Scotchbrite pads) . Not just soft plastic. White is 120 GRIT yellow is 80 GRIT ..... where GRIT means abrasive!
would pouring drops of water into the intake while the engine is idling have the same effect? it seems that manually doing it like that is more effective but I am not really inclined to disassemble my engine right now
That is basically the Seafoam treatment. U can pull a vaccum line with direct to intake vaccum and use it to suck in water or seafoam. the shock of the cold liquid will release some of the deposits and shoot them out of the tailpipe. Using this method u would let the engine draw in fluid untill the engine runs really ruff but does not turn off. There are vids on how to do this. It should be safe to perform but be aware damage could result.
Remove the catalytic converter if your going to try this or you will damage it . Bg and other companies say that their products are cat safe but I don't believe that to be true , the cat wasn't designed to handle large deposits .
Jimmy Schmidt Engine produces water as it runs. Lots. If you think thermal shock cleans off carbon try dumping ice into a hot carbon-caked skillet. Ice will skip around and melt, that’s all. You ignore the Liedenfrost effect when you claim thermal shock works using water.
also having done turbines , using a nice flat stone to surface your block is also nice little trick , i learned from doing millwright work in the past ,,,thanks for sharing ,,,cleanliness is godliness LOL
Would you use the same scraper if the block was aluminum and not steel? What would you do differently for an aluminum block? Is the white plastic roloc disc ok for that?
'Easy Off' and its equal is lye, sodium hydroxide and breaks down organic compounds such as grease, oil and oxidized fats. It's also highly alkaline and attacks aluminum quickly. It's ineffective on regular, hard carbon deposits but okay on the softer variety normally associated with baked-on fats. 'Hard' carbon requires far more aggressive chemistry or just mechanical abrasives and hard work.
Yes it does. But if engine was running all you had to do is run water through intake with engine running suck up water from cup with vacuum line and it will look like new
I have to wonder, though. Wouldn't putting WD-40 on stuff like scotch pads and wet sandpaper reduce the abrasive/cleaning effect? I know WD isn't technically a lubricant, but it also forms a thin layer. Just wondering.
If you don't like all that sharp carbon going into your engine and ruining the oil and water pumps, smear some grease around the edges of the pistons to catch it. It will stick in the grease when you move the piston down. Also, stuff the foam that was cut from the back of those scouring pads down the oil and waterways. It won't fall apart like paper and mostly holds itself in. It is easy to extract with long nose pliers if is pushed in a bit too far. WD40 does work. A small flat round ended spanner makes a good scraper for the piston crowns. A large roll of paper is essential. good luck☺
I just tried this and the WD 40 isn't helping much. It's an 81 Rabbit gas engine with 41 years worth of carbon buildup. Is there something stronger I can use to soften the carbon?
dude im a mechanic and i hate us. you wouldn't believe what kinds of "common practices" some guys use. ive seen a guy use degreaser to clean the surface of a timing surface for a reseal, with it all dripping into the sump and didnt end change the oil.
@@TheComaDay i'd be lookin to slap some sense into that mech. With that stated, I agree. I hate mechanics so much, especially shade tree's like myself, I won't let anyone touch my vehicle, not even to help, unless it's for an alignment or tires.
I'm pretty sure that if you ask mechanics, they will tell you we deal with shit engineering FAR more than engineers deal with shit mechanics. Talk to me about S85 rod bearings, late Audi timing chains, Ford 3.5/3.7 waterpumps, etc, etc.
I’m doing my moms engine on her 05 caravan. And the carbon is so caked up on the pistons that it’s taking forever to take off with a plastic paint scraper. I never thought to try WD40. Thank you.
What you can do is turn the engine over so that the piston crowns are nearly even. Then you can pour diesel or kerosene into the cylinders. The liquid should stay inside the cylinder... none should escape down into the block. Once soaked overnight/or however long you can usually wipe off most of the carbon residue with ease. Some may be more stubborn. Obviously you have to soak up the liquid you used before hand. The liquid should stay in the cylinders because the piston rings should be ‘air/liquid tight’ so if the is significant loss of liquid is can mean cylinder damage, piston damage, worn piston rings or that the piston rings have not been installed correctly (the ends of the rings should be installed 180 degrees opposed. If Aligned it will allow liquid to pass and drain into the block.
Malcolm Young - Great explanation, one thing to add is the liquid could escape on an engine with stuck piston rings also, the soaking will help with that too.
I am sure that there could be micro fibre that destroy oil pump etc but I really appreciated the clear presentation and common sense comments Hes got a funny acsent :) Regards Keith Tait Perth Australia
Charles, I learn something new from each of your videos. Much appreciated! I also particularly like how you explain the possible alternate methods that could be utilized if the tools are available.
Carb cleaner evaporates very easily, good for removing liquid or easily liquified sludge. Brake cleaner lasts a little big longer. To soak up old dried coked up sludge, you need a high-detergent infused petroleum-based cleaner like WD40.
i trashed my car engine for the whole life of it, around 350,000 KMs, when time to rebuild it came, head removed and no carbon what so ever was found inside!
I like that spray bottle that you had with the WD-40. Years ago I came across a shop size aerosol can that sprays so much out with just the little push on the top it covers everything quickly. I have probably had that can for 10 years and I'm still have more than half of it. I usually use it to stop flash rust. It comes in handy when rebuilding a motor. Which in a few weeks I plan on starting. It's going to be my winter project. Thank you for all the information you provided in your video. The stuff underneath the head on the engine block is almost like concrete. Your way looks so much better and I'd like that scraper you are using. Thanks again for sharing your video.
I’ve performed these steps and have questions: 1. If carbon or scotchbrite deposits fall between the piston and cylinder wall how do I remove? 2. I was told that it’s best to drop pistons out and clean as carbon falling into ring seats will cause micro-abrasions that will cause issues. Necessary or no? 3. Will the scotchbrite suffice for a good mating surface or should I use a sharpening stone? This seems too easy compared to what I’ve been told. Any other good videos for cleaning any crumbs that drop as opposed to dropping rods and pistons?
You mentioned that you’re going to clean off the block off once it’s on the engine. What’s the process final cleaning the process of that step before assembly?
Before taking the motor apart, while it's still running, just drip water down the intake as it's idling. The water will become super heated steam in the chambers and it cleans things up very well.
+Jack Frost I deleted one of your comments. It was not really appropriate. One may have went to spam. That happens from time to time. I'd recommend you put your energy into building a YT channel that teaches people the right way as you see it.
HumbleMechanic i just tried to be funny, i did not intend to be insulting :( i am more interested in motorbikes tho, learning how to maintain my 1998 honda hornet
I have a Jeep 2.5 that runs awful has severe blow-by so I figured I'd put new rings in it and while I'm at it refurbish the head, new springs, valve seal, and clean all the guides is this something I can do without pulling the engine it's very accessable in the Jeep oil pan is clear and head is very easy to pull with tons of room to work
Good tip here .DO NOT EVER SCRAP WITH A METAL OBJECT ON ANY ENGINE PART. take a plastic one its most safer to use then metal.metal makes deep sratch on the surface you work on
geen neppe onzin only if your an idiot. ever heard of a pneumatic chisel? used to use one to scrape about 20ft of gasket off locomotive engines. Granted they're good quality steel. It's all situational, depends on the metal you're cleaning. Well off to clean my solid aluminum engine..
I always use a plastic coffee spoon to clean gasket material off delicate iron blocks. Ive almost finished cleaning off my pontiac 400 engine which i started doing in 1984.........
I think its safe to say if someone was building a 1000 hp engine they wouldnt be here watching this as an instruction video lol im just worming my way thru you tube only reason im watching
DUUUDE... so much fluff!! get on with the repair already... i am at 4:30 of you just repeating yourself about the damn wd40.. we already know you are using the non-aerosol version.. cool idc...
Wd40 dries completely overnight, I've used it industrially for years. For certain applications, I'll add an ounce of oil or atf the the spray bottle to prevent complete drying
Morning Humble, I have a GM 4 cylinder inline. Im replacing the head gasket as it has blown and no compression in tow cyl. As I read the book on this they say not to remove the carbon ring at the top of the cylinder. Not sure why they say this only as it may be a caustion not to drop anything in the cylinder? After watching your video I plan on doing just what you did and clean ,clean ,clean. Thanks for the WD-40 on the paper towle tip too. Skipper
After watching this video and reading around to do my own head gasket, I'm finding lots of warnings about the dangers of using Scotch Brite for any kind of engine surface prep. Apparently, it's practically impossible to get all of the Scotch Brite particles out of the engine, and the aluminum oxide abrasive will destroy the bearings and basically anything else that moves and has tight tolerances 😬 There are apparently technical service bulletins out there about this, but this explanation makes enough sense to me that I'll be pursuing other means: www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=563163
I assume that if you're doing a machine-shop style job where you're going to aggressively power wash the parts before reassembly, it might be okay, but if (like me) you're doing this in your driveway and not pulling the whole engine, prolly not a great plan... I ended up taking the head I was working on to a shop for resurfacing and just very carefully cleaned the block surface with steel and plastic scrapers. I have ~195psi of compression on all four cylinders of the 2.3L F23A1 Honda engine I was working on.
I use "industrial" paint remover that you can spray. You don't even need to scrub. It removes oil and carbon super easy. You spray it once or twice and rinse off with brake cleaner. I kinda like the burning feeling of it on my bare hands also. ;) I cleaned a junk yard motor last week and it works awesome. WD40 is nice, but you'll need a lot of scrubbing.
Here in the jungle in Costa Rica we do not have much, but we do have WD-40. Your method worked perfectly on my 10 year-old Niva. I can read the piston stamps as clear as new! You are too humble.
Awesome review!
10year-old Niva its new car!!! Hi from Russia:))) my dad have 22year-old niva,not bad car:))
I am not a mechanic although I worked on my own cars in the 70's and 80's. Here is a tip I always remembered from my father. You can build a grease dam around each Piston crown at the sleave when removing carbon. This will help with debree getting down between the crown. Then when done move the Piston a little down and wipe the wall and piston clean.
Fuck me that's one helluva smart trick! I had my engine head off and wanted to clean the block whilst it was still in the bay. After a bit of scrubbing I realized I got a shitload of debris and scotchbrite pad material down in the channels and around the piston rings. But then I noticed the block was junk anyway so I took it off and junked it. But next time I'm doing the block still in the car, I will use your dad's method!
That's a great tip, I'm doing it now on my old Lada Riva, thanks.
Now that's a hell of a trick! Simply genius!
What a great idea.
If your worried about debris, Just use a Shop Vac to vacuum it all out. Never had issues. I always do this when replacing intake gaskets.
A trick that I read about online, that I have used with good results, is to smear a little grease on the cylinder wall, then rotate the crank so that the piston pushes the grease to the top of the cylinder, then let the piston go back down. Any dust, dirt or debris that has fallen into the piston/cylinder gap will get stuck in the grease! Now you can simply wipe the ring of grease out of the cylinder taking any crud with it :)
That is a great tip!!!
A classic Charles Humble Mechanic video, this is exactly what I watch to teach myself to be a better mechanic being not formally trained.
Wow, that came out looking amazing, especially for a first pass! I think there's a lot of value in showing things not brought to absolute perfection. For the DIY folks, as well as for techs new to the industry, it can be difficult to get a feel for what's "okay," and what isn't. Experience is the best teacher, but example comes in a close second! :)
just as a matter of interested, the complete meaning of WD-40 is water displacement formula #40, as that formula was obviously the 40th attempt at an H2O displacement product. I totally dig your videos. Well presented with no unnecessary rambling about whatever, to the point with great info. I'd never seen nor heard of the WD-40 and Scotch Brite on the piston tops. Superb idea. Thanks and keep up the great vid's.
I have met other "so called" mechanics that could do an engine "overhaul" in three hours.
It took me three hours just to get the engine out and stripped down. Then started the cleaning!!!
I pretty much watch all your vids just to try and understand how your so calm, cool, and collected. I just got the heads of my 5.3 in my work truck and every single chevy forum said to never scrape or use the scotch bright. But I trust you more than I trust them.
I'd use a lacquer thinner to dissolve the carbon first. It will clean off faster with no scraping. Using WD40 AFTER that does seem like a good idea. I have decarboned many 2-stroke airplane engines and have never used any kind of scraper. Just shop towels. NO scrape marks anywhere!
As a furniture carpenter i learned to slightly sand the corners of a scraper to save the scraped surface from scratches.
Great idea
I think you should mention that depending on the material the block is made from, different tools and techniques should be used to prevent damage to the mating surfaces of aluminium blocks.
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Ive always dreaded this part of the job. WELL NO MORE. I had no idea WD40 would break the carbon up so easily. Thanks for the tip brother.
As a qualified motor engineer with 50 years on my clock, might I ask about the piston rings ?
This is a 140,000+mile, engine. I agree that the cylinder bore 'cross hatching' marks being visible indicate limited wear & assuming there are no vertical plane scoring marks present then everything down the bores is all OK.
However ! (There's always a however) on my vast and comprehensive experience with bashing engines with hammers, I would like to point out the fact that 9 out of 10 engines that I have stripped have the piston rings stuck in the piston lands. The piston rings in most cases need to be removed, sometimes even broken to remove them from the piston.
I ask, if the 'crosshatch' marks are visible and there's a 'within tolerence' 'Bore step' on this high mileage engine, would it not be prudent to assume that the piston rings have stuck, thereby causing excessive oil consumption etc. and as you've gone the trouble of half stripping the engine, to remove the piston & conrod assemblies ?
I know its a can of worms but at high mileage, the crank bearings might be well worn.
I understand that this video deals with block levelling but attention is being given to the bore condition & I thought my input might be of some help.
Respectfully. Not a
criticism, just observations based on a career lifetime of engine rebuild fails !
Nice informative video by the way.
My respects,
Johns MG Rover parts.
You young fellers and your "piston rings"...why in my day...
John Sadler It’s a stinking VW. You overthinking this greatly. It’s not worth rings much less cylinders being bored and oversized pistons.
Your correct with that many millage them crosshatch should not be visible. Bizarre,then again it's been some time I viewed iron walls, working on today's motorcycle engine using chrome nickasilk
@@prevost8686 modern VW engines have many issues with oil scraper pistons rings: they are thin and the oil holes are very tiny and if the case the car is use most in city and not frequent oil drain with high quality oil, this holes are many times clogged= high oil consumption, and looks like the engine whe see here as such issue because the thick oily residues on the pistons and cylinder walls...
I would of done a compression test before hand
Lots of great information in this vid.
Over the years I’ve found hot soapy water works great for carbon deposits.
I’m not recommending in this particular case, but if you’ve got parts off that have carbon deposits on them that needs to come off, try soaking them in hot soapy water. You’ll be amazed at how fast and easy the carbon comes off. It does have to soak for a bit, but man, sparkling clean.
The one time that I'd be thankful to have a 4-cylinder engine. Less work...
Less to go wrong👌🏻
Just did had gasket on my 2002 Civic with 285,000 mi on it.
I took a fine tooth wire wheel to the tops of the pistons... It got some carbon off but not all.
I feel skeptical that it would have gone quite so easy peasy if I'd tried this method! How many times have I seen something on TH-cam and then when I put it to practice in real life, doesn't work out quite as promised.
Humble mechanic You seem like a good guy and in real life I'd definitely give you a shot! Just saying I've been burnt by TH-cam before.
Anybody try this method and not have it work out quite so easy?
Granted 285 is more than 140... That's a lot more miles/ time for the carbon to harden.
I always used brake cleaner on piston tops and the block deck. Never thought about WD-40 for that purpose. Awesome video!
+Steven p right on!!
Thank you for making this video. It's full of important information that a first-time engine-fixer like me really needs to hear.
Nice production values - great lighting and camera work. Looks a lot easier than the engine project I did without WD. I used a metal stripper and the fumes were nasty.
Great tech tip. I've been an engine builder for decades. It's always nice to learn something new. As for the scraper, I no longer see my Snap On guy. I did find out that the Bluepoint scraper is mand by Bahco. I bought one on Amazon. Thanks again for the info.
great tips! when i restored my old vintage Lamborghini tractor engine i had to took off a lot of built carbon from the cylinder head. unfortunately i didn't know this method with DW40. thanks man!
*WD40
The best thing I have found for this task is Chore Boy Stainless Steel scrubbing pads. These pads are like steel wool pads, but instead it is a thin, narrow, tighly coiled SS ribbon formed into a pad.These are made for cleaning cooked on crud on frying pans and such. They cut through the carbon like it was butter, and are non-abrasive, unlike Scotchbrite pads. I cleaned the carbon build up in the cylinders and on the pistons on my Kia 4-banger that I am working on, and it took no time at all.
Watching you scrape the block with that scraper, putting gouges in it, and then using a Scotch Bright, makes my heart sink. To each their own.
Go watch a video of machine shop scrapping. It’s how machinist get a “flat” surface from a mill actually flat
I clicked on this video just to say I use WD40 to clean carbon from pistons and heads but I see that's what you use too. lol! Best product ever. Will even free stuck rings in high mileage engines.
What provision do you have for removal of the deposits that make their way through the gap(aided by liquid)and in behind the rings. ?..,especially the top ring ? I am concerned that since cylinders all wear more up top, the crud will make a tight situation, especially at the bottom,since it has flowed in under the rings.Myself,(and I usually work on slow ,non performance antique engines)I was taught to neck down your shop vac hose and GENTLY scrape it loose still DRY , and vacuum it out as soon as it comes loose .You can tape the hose to scraper 1/2 "inch from the end and the suction will offset gravity. (carbon is abrasive).
Dude that gasket scraper is a hell of a tool man thanks for the tip!!!!!
5:55 "Dont press down too hard, we dont want to take scrape off any metal" *makes a fat scratch in the metal*
Furries are disgusting Good call out. That's a time to be mindful.
It will buff out, usually/maybe. Had the same thing happen with bigger engines.
GO NAVY!
Wow! I was just going to put same comment @5:56 but you beat me to it. A fine example of why you DONT use a blade on a gasket surface, especially Head Gasket, especially aluminum. Im shocked he used it to begin with. "Cost me 20$ for the scrapper" and 150$+ to deck the block along with 25$ for a head spacer. He did mention using a roloc, better choice.
I dont want to make it sound like I'm cutting down the Humble Mechanic, just pointing out even those with much experience can still make a mistake with a scrapper. Having said that, it wasn't the end of the world, it wasn't in an area where the gasket would be up against a critical sealing surface and contrary to another comment above, buffing it out only makes it worse, do that and now you have a larger low area. So never buff it out. I'm am painstakingly scraping over a cylinder head now with a plastic blade that I'm constantly sharpening and brushing acetone on it in between. I really want to use a nice razor blade and I'd be a liar if I said I've never done that before, but I dont anymore. Think I'll get a roloc. I'm going to be at this for a few weeks with these results.
@@ColdWarVet607 it's fine to use a carbide scraper on aluminum, but you need to do it correctly. I'm more worried about all the chunks of carbon that are now in the gap between the piston and bore, getting into the rings.
All I have to say is thank you so much. I have never been able to clean the top of pictures as well as you did in this video. I know this is an older video and you might not ever see my comment but I still wanted to thank you for sharing. I also love that WD-40 spray bottle. I could not even guess how many times I have sprayed myself in the face with the aerosol can. Again thank you for your time all sharing this with all of us and it will definitely come in handy for me. I have 2 Motor jobs sitting outside my garage and I'm definitely using your technique.
Thanks so much!!
A good way to ruin a motor. Scotch-brite is aluminum oxide which is incredibility hard and if you get that inside the motor it will be toast in no time.
I was rolling my eyes, until I looked it up. Al2O3 hardness: 9. Iron hardness: 4. Scotch-brite materials: spun polypropylene fiber, with nine grit variations, most of which incorporate Al2O3 or similar high-hardness abrasives. (Source: wikipedia) Also, BobIsTheOilGuy confirms. Thanks!
Nice catch!
But is the extremely superficial "scratches" left by the scotch pads enough to make a head gasket useless? I'm gonna say no. But to each his own.
We're not talking about scratches on the head, we're talking about very hard particulates sluffing off of the Scotch-brite pad and getting down into the engine, where they make their way to bearing surfaces and destroy them.
Still doesn't seem as dangerous to internals as the normal small flakes of steel that gets into the oil with normal wear and tear.
I did this on my XJ's I6 engine a few months ago with nearly 200k miles on it. It definitely is as easy as your video shows. Felt good to clean all that build up off.
did you it with the engine out? i’m cutting getting my cylinder head machined and was wondering if it can be done with the bloc still in the engine bay.
I love how 95% of people who have posted NO informational posting on auto repairs chirp up about someone else's shortcoming after sitting back int their Directors chair pointing every little thing "wrong" with this post. Sweep off your own front porch and thanks for posting Charles.
Scotchbrite is abrasive, scratches like sandpaper and also leaves a residue. WD-40 is just light fish oil. I use bbq foam grill cleaner and a plastic brush. Press a bead of heavy grease around the top of the piston to block abrasives from getting trapped between the piston and wall. To do a thorough clean, spray or brush a light coat of paint thinner and blow the carbon and abrasives out of the space between the piston and wall, with compressed air. Place a shop towel over the cylinder to contain the aerosol solution.
Thanks for the tips man! Just got a 68 corvair engine to put in a dune buggy...the engine is dirty! There was no water inside too!
Well, Corvair is air-cooled, so...
David Plass yeah lol, it was sitting outside under a old tarp for 15 years...that's what I ment about water
Oh, so no water inside in the GOOD way!
David Plass oh dam I have a old corsair front end destroyed but only has 678 miles on it I but it's still inside the car and Its really rusted the engine is alluminum so that's not rusted but the bolts and stuff holdinf it is
Razor blades and Liquid Wrench are whats in my toolbox. The 3M pads will polish it up nicely. Great video. Strange VW 6 cylinder. Lopsided combustion chamber.
As a machinist, DO NOT use an air or electric powered grinder / sander with a roll lock disc! You can not keep the disc straight when sanding. You always end up with low spots in the deck surface or rounded corners of water jackets and bores!
Yep, made that mistake with my Oldsmobile alero 10 years ago. Just bought a new 2017 Honda HR-V in 2017 and will only clean the engine as this guy has stated in the video when the time comes. 148,000 miles in, and it runs like a champ.
This method actually worked really well for me. The wd and pads makes the gasket lift right off. The one thing was the debris getting better the piston and cylinder walls, I ended up getting a bit out but I’m not sure if I need to be worried or not
Howd it go
@@Jet_Hammer spun a bearing, I’m thinking the degree clogged the passages within the crank and starved a bearing but who knows
How much of that SB pad are you leaving between the cylinder wall & piston top & in the ring groove ?
You know there's been many TSBs saying to not use SB disks but SB is SB.
"Scotch-Brite is a line of abrasive cleaning pads produced by 3M. The original product line consisted of
spun polypropylene fiber with about nine grit variations. Scotch-Brite also contains "Alox", which is a trade name for aluminum oxide."
&
"Aluminium oxide is used for its hardness and strength. It is widely used as an abrasive, including as a much less expensive substitute for industrial diamond"
I had the same concern. I once worked with a diesel mechanic doing a head gasket job on a mack truck, he did basically what is shown in this video. I now work at a reputable engine machine shop running the cleaning area and I use wire brush wheels to clean cast iron gasket surfaces, does not remove metal unless I dwell too long or run up an edge. I would recommend a wire wheel for a mechanic as well, it's going to make less abrasive debris.
B Anno dealers problem not everybody's
CHARLIE ARROYO
First off a SB pad will not give the specific surface recommended by any gasket manufacturer.
You can google
"gasket surface recommendation"
if you care for the facts.
SB does however give a great surface if you use silicone excessively instead of a "gasket" like so many uneducated so called mechanics do.
But then again you have an abrasive particle issue.
&
Any abrasive left in any engine is not a good thing and it will eventually if not immediately do damage.
+B Anno You are getting a little too technical now. Do you think gas stations gave a fuck in the 1930s what the microns of a head were when they changed a model A head gasket. Get with the program.
B Anno Correct!
NEVER USE SCOTCHBRITE TO CLEAN UP GASKET SURFACES OF AN ENGINE.
NEVER, EVER, EVER USE SCOTCHBRITE ON AN ENGINE. At least not one you want to run again for a long time.
Scotchbrite seems so benign but it is death to engines. Scotchbrite pads are nylon fibers with 40 micron particles of aluminum oxide in them. Scotchbrite dust leaves behind all those 40 micron particles hidden everywhere. Aluminum oxide is an extremely aggressive abrasive. It imbeds in the bearings and eats the crank....and other things.
Scotchbrite is the bane of the aftermarket re-man engine industry.
www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=563163
when i changed my sparks plugs (audi a5), i first poured chemtool B12 fuel system cleaner into the combustion chambers, let it soak till it evaporated. it definitely loosened the carbon. though, for best results is to let B12 soak for several days, scrubbing not needed.
somewhere on youtube, there was a test (soak for 10 days !) of various fuel system cleaners on carbon, B12 was the most aggressive. just be careful not to get on rubber or plastic.
yo guys. wd40 is a great and reliable product. it's great to prevent rust on items you're leaving sit for a long time, clean tools, get rust off, clean grease. it is not however a lubricant, any beginner hobby mechanic knows this. the best part is it flashes off exhaust and such with less smelly smoke than most other cleaners or nut looseners. that said, why are people bitching about him using wd40 for this job? it's a great product for said task lol.
Great feedback. I was really surprised how well WD40 worked here. I have found that people have several issues.
1) Any time a video is sponsored, there is kick back. It could be the best product ever and there would be heartburn
2) People have intense brand loyalty. If I shoot a video about Mobile1, the Mobile one haters will hate, even though they make a great product.
3)Most people don't consider it a professional brand. I don't really get that, because I have seen WD40 in tons of shops over the years.
It is really interesting to do videos like this and see the comments. We(me included) become married to our beliefs and often struggle to be open to different ways of doing things.
I totally see what you're saying on all 3 points bro. I think the bigger issue is people don't even know how t use what they have. Use Brakleen as MAF cleaner, MAF breaks, they complain, use torque wrench as a breaker bar, it stops working they complain, use WD40 as a purpose made lubricant, or cleaner, they complain... I guess the consistency is, people just love to complain haha.
I always pull my plugs and spray the hell out of the cylinders for long periods. I just pulled a 355 apart that I stored since 1990, the cylinders had zero rust, and I live 2 miles from salt water.
I always save the WD-40 red straw and leave it in the glove box. Once I drowned an AMC eagle up to the dash and got water in the carb. When we got it out of the puddle, I used the red straw to suck the float bowls clean with my mouth to get it running. It worked good.
I liked your video and think I learned something from it, no matter what the naysayers say.
Use ear plugs for the oil passage holes. Works great.
Charles aren't you concerned that bolting a the head on with the valves making a nice tight seal that you will induce blow by past the old tings & bore? Or did you do a leak-down test to confirm the rings were good. Thanks for these very informative videos, keep them coming.
+Chuck Ashton at this point I am not worried about it. The engine ran well before hand.
The WORST case is, I have to replace the rings down the road. While I a confident that everything will be fine, I don't mind doing rings down the road.
I have always used an air angle die grinder with a cookie (scotchbrite) wheel to clean up blocks and heads.I have never had the patience to try to clean up M.L.S. gasket from an Engine.I give you credit for that.Even though I'm not a VW guy,I love seeing any type of major Engine work done.Great Videos!
Ive worked in a machine shop for 11+ years and the worst thing you can do is take a roloc or buzz wheel to clean a deck surface.. this is common practice in "mechanics shops" and that makes me sick and such a horrible technique is in constant use... ps lacquer thinner and a rag will take that carbon off faster and safer than Getting SB debris inside the chamber
Rolocs are badass. I think using one lightly and evenly on a iron block would be ok.
Logically speaking. Any kind of roloc debris left in the chamber will be blown out. Any kind of debris in the cooling jackets will be burned up or just circulated.same with an oil galley. The hell you talkin bout
@BGFR : You stated your opinion, but left out the reasoning why it's "the worst thing you can do".
I am OK with the Roll lock desk.But everything has to be sealed on that engine first so no debris get into anything. I would never use it on pistons. I’ve seen many mechanics destroy engines because of it. The person needs to use their head about it. I’m at 25+ year technician.
Not when it's a wd40 sponsored video
My go to fluids for any mechanical repairs:
Deep Creep for loosening nuts and bolts
WD 40 for Cleaning Carbon or preventing rust
Paint Thinner for washing parts
Acetone or Brake Cleaner and compressed air for final clean up right before assembly
If your working on an older engine sometimes the head gaskets contained asbestos so it might be a good idea to wear a respirator when cleaning the surfaces.
+Sam The Multimedia Man yikes!!! That's not good at all
yeah i found this out a few days ago when i wrestled the heads off my 1980 AMC Jeep 360; There was a thick grey silver coating on the block and head surfaces at first i thought someone put the heads on with a coating of JB weld all over the head gaskets; So i checked the factory manual and it turns out the head gaskets were aluminum and asbestos fiber laminated steel... with asbestos only being phased out of the auto industry with in the last decade or so it could be contained in head gaskets in many makes years and models.
Lots of exhaust manifold gaskets also contain asbestos and still used today.
only us jeep guys would jb weld a headgasket
Asbestos is not necessarily harmful when wet.😐
I'm a mechanic and, at work, I use the 3M nylon bristle discs on an air die grinder on any precision machined engine mating surfaces. Best engine work "cookies" ever. They remove all foreign material while NOT removing any of the precision substrate material. And if any shavings get down in the engine, it's no big deal, because it's just soft plastic. No air compressor? No problem... throw the Roloc mandril in an electric drill. :) Personally, I like white (fine) and yellow (medium) for heads and decks. Anything else, green or whatever color you want is fine.
Is there such a thing with no grit in it? 3M Nylon bristle discs incorporate "proprietary" ceramic abrasives (my guess, aluminum oxide, same as what is on Scotchbrite pads) . Not just soft plastic. White is 120 GRIT yellow is 80 GRIT ..... where GRIT means abrasive!
would pouring drops of water into the intake while the engine is idling have the same effect? it seems that manually doing it like that is more effective but I am not really inclined to disassemble my engine right now
That is basically the Seafoam treatment. U can pull a vaccum line with direct to intake vaccum and use it to suck in water or seafoam. the shock of the cold liquid will release some of the deposits and shoot them out of the tailpipe. Using this method u would let the engine draw in fluid untill the engine runs really ruff but does not turn off. There are vids on how to do this. It should be safe to perform but be aware damage could result.
Remove the catalytic converter if your going to try this or you will damage it . Bg and other companies say that their products are cat safe but I don't believe that to be true , the cat wasn't designed to handle large deposits .
Yes light spray but it won't get near all of it.. only way is to remove the head and dip it in gasoline. Pro tip delete ur pcv engine sooo clean
Jimmy Schmidt
Engine produces water as it runs. Lots.
If you think thermal shock cleans off carbon try dumping ice into a hot carbon-caked skillet. Ice will skip around and melt, that’s all.
You ignore the Liedenfrost effect when you claim thermal shock works using water.
also having done turbines , using a nice flat stone to surface your block is also nice little trick , i learned from doing millwright work in the past ,,,thanks for sharing ,,,cleanliness is godliness LOL
How I love the sweet smell of WD-40 in the morning...
😂😂😂
Would you use the same scraper if the block was aluminum and not steel? What would you do differently for an aluminum block? Is the white plastic roloc disc ok for that?
aluminum surface prep compound is what you want
I didn't realize that WD-40 had so many uses , that head came up like new .
Diesel would have done a better job.
JayVan Geli
that's true
The 2 tools you'll ever use, duct tape and wd-40!
commodore665 that was the block and pistons
yeah i just used it to clean the carbon off my exhaust tip and it looks great now.
Good stuff. Thank for not wasting time showing us how to build a "high performance" build
Easy Off oven cleaner works amazingly for that application
I have heard that before. I need to try it.
Yep, that stuff was made to eat carbon.
'Easy Off' and its equal is lye, sodium hydroxide and breaks down organic compounds such as grease, oil and oxidized fats. It's also highly alkaline and attacks aluminum quickly. It's ineffective on regular, hard carbon deposits but okay on the softer variety normally associated with baked-on fats. 'Hard' carbon requires far more aggressive chemistry or just mechanical abrasives and hard work.
Oven cleaner can also damage and pit aluminum. While safe to use on iron blocks and pistons, it is not safe to use on aluminum.
Yes it does. But if engine was running all you had to do is run water through intake with engine running suck up water from cup with vacuum line and it will look like new
cleaned up nicely, only add that when I do mine I use some oiled string around the piston tops, it stops some of the debris falling into the rings.
+Victorylane L that's a pretty good idea!
If your air compressor can't run a roloc, put it on an electric drill!
or dremel tool
Great, nice and easy thanks. Can you use this same method for cylinder heads and valves?
I work on Navy ships, and some things need to be stoned smooth and flat. NOTHING works as good as WD-40.
David Collis I work on navy computers. CTN here, lol.
I have to wonder, though. Wouldn't putting WD-40 on stuff like scotch pads and wet sandpaper reduce the abrasive/cleaning effect? I know WD isn't technically a lubricant, but it also forms a thin layer. Just wondering.
I have a 2001 jetta 12 valve vr6 with 290,000 miles and it still runs like a champ only thing I have done is the alternator.
Rotary brass wire brush and electric drill
THIS
I've always used a razor blade free hand and brake clean
Wire in rings is a No. they break off . Not on my motor .
those pistons look great and everything looks new again. everything I've come to expect of wd-40 products, sweet collaboration
+Steven Kitchin thank you. :). I am excited about how they came out
You should call Discovery's Fast N Loud's and be a fill in for
Aaron Kaufman
If you don't like all that sharp carbon going into your engine and ruining the oil and water pumps, smear some grease around the edges of the pistons to catch it. It will stick in the grease when you move the piston down. Also, stuff the foam that was cut from the back of those scouring pads down the oil and waterways. It won't fall apart like paper and mostly holds itself in. It is easy to extract with long nose pliers if is pushed in a bit too far. WD40 does work. A small flat round ended spanner makes a good scraper for the piston crowns. A large roll of paper is essential.
good luck☺
I thought for a second " oh cool Aaron has a channel".
I just tried this and the WD 40 isn't helping much. It's an 81 Rabbit gas engine with 41 years worth of carbon buildup. Is there something stronger I can use to soften the carbon?
why engineers hate mechanics
dude im a mechanic and i hate us. you wouldn't believe what kinds of "common practices" some guys use.
ive seen a guy use degreaser to clean the surface of a timing surface for a reseal, with it all dripping into the sump and didnt end change the oil.
@@TheComaDay i'd be lookin to slap some sense into that mech.
With that stated, I agree. I hate mechanics so much, especially shade tree's like myself, I won't let anyone touch my vehicle, not even to help, unless it's for an alignment or tires.
I'm pretty sure that if you ask mechanics, they will tell you we deal with shit engineering FAR more than engineers deal with shit mechanics. Talk to me about S85 rod bearings, late Audi timing chains, Ford 3.5/3.7 waterpumps, etc, etc.
@@VTLIFE-so4dc engineers should work on their own stuff, teach them to design right. I bet they'd change their ways. 😂😂😂
I’m doing my moms engine on her 05 caravan. And the carbon is so caked up on the pistons that it’s taking forever to take off with a plastic paint scraper. I never thought to try WD40. Thank you.
Soaking in paraffin / kerosene overnight will dissolve that carbon and make it easier to wipe away with minimal effort using your method.
how to soak? do we have to take out the piston, plz tell me? thanks
What you can do is turn the engine over so that the piston crowns are nearly even. Then you can pour diesel or kerosene into the cylinders. The liquid should stay inside the cylinder... none should escape down into the block. Once soaked overnight/or however long you can usually wipe off most of the carbon residue with ease. Some may be more stubborn. Obviously you have to soak up the liquid you used before hand. The liquid should stay in the cylinders because the piston rings should be ‘air/liquid tight’ so if the is significant loss of liquid is can mean cylinder damage, piston damage, worn piston rings or that the piston rings have not been installed correctly (the ends of the rings should be installed 180 degrees opposed. If Aligned it will allow liquid to pass and drain into the block.
Malcolm Young - Great explanation, one thing to add is the liquid could escape on an engine with stuck piston rings also, the soaking will help with that too.
I am sure that there could be micro fibre that destroy oil pump etc but I really appreciated the clear presentation and common sense comments
Hes got a funny acsent :)
Regards
Keith Tait Perth Australia
I usually just spray water in the throttle body at roughly half throttle. Cleans pistons safely and effectively.
madjimms my grandfather used to do this on his tractor.
madjimms a dash of methanol mixed into the water first is a good idea
+Sam Iamm you mean Moonshine there dontcha? ;)
We used to do that at an old shop I worked at, put a piece of white paper near the exhaust and watch all the pieces of carbon fly out.
+Eric Michel 180 Proof yeah!
Charles, I learn something new from each of your videos. Much appreciated!
I also particularly like how you explain the possible alternate methods that could be utilized if the tools are available.
I wouldn't have thought to use WD40 to loosen up the carbon; I was going to use carb cleaner. - Steve
Cars Simplified zztezgfz
Same here.
Carb cleaner evaporates very easily, good for removing liquid or easily liquified sludge. Brake cleaner lasts a little big longer. To soak up old dried coked up sludge, you need a high-detergent infused petroleum-based cleaner like WD40.
I've tried literally everything and I always go back to WD-40 good video!
i trashed my car engine for the whole life of it, around 350,000 KMs, when time to rebuild it came, head removed and no carbon what so ever was found inside!
yeah this engine was not properly maintained. :(
Well collant can leak into the cylinder vapor cleaning it that ca cause a engine to blow
damn prius drivers
I like that spray bottle that you had with the WD-40. Years ago I came across a shop size aerosol can that sprays so much out with just the little push on the top it covers everything quickly. I have probably had that can for 10 years and I'm still have more than half of it. I usually use it to stop flash rust. It comes in handy when rebuilding a motor. Which in a few weeks I plan on starting. It's going to be my winter project.
Thank you for all the information you provided in your video. The stuff underneath the head on the engine block is almost like concrete. Your way looks so much better and I'd like that scraper you are using. Thanks again for sharing your video.
I like it when you go into turbo mode.
I’ve performed these steps and have questions:
1. If carbon or scotchbrite deposits fall between the piston and cylinder wall how do I remove?
2. I was told that it’s best to drop pistons out and clean as carbon falling into ring seats will cause micro-abrasions that will cause issues. Necessary or no?
3. Will the scotchbrite suffice for a good mating surface or should I use a sharpening stone?
This seems too easy compared to what I’ve been told. Any other good videos for cleaning any crumbs that drop as opposed to dropping rods and pistons?
Nice & one of the better video's!
+Eric Jacibi thank you!
HumbleMechanic are you really in humble Tx?
No, he's based out of North Carolina.
You mentioned that you’re going to clean off the block off once it’s on the engine. What’s the process final cleaning the process of that step before assembly?
this reminds me of a jafromobile video
I watched the shit out those, but last time i checked like a year ago maybe he didn't have any new stuff
jafro es muy pro
This video sure fits that happy jafromobile niche. :)
Before taking the motor apart, while it's still running, just drip water down the intake as it's idling. The water will become super heated steam in the chambers and it cleans things up very well.
ALL HAIL THE GREEEEEEN SCRUBBY!
So I followed all these steps ,my question is how and what do you use to rinse the bore and pistons
for god's sake man, blink, you're freaking me out! BLINK, DAMN YOU, BLINK!
George Tsiros but when you blink, the camera steals your soul. Ahha
+Jack Frost I deleted one of your comments. It was not really appropriate. One may have went to spam. That happens from time to time.
I'd recommend you put your energy into building a YT channel that teaches people the right way as you see it.
HumbleMechanic i just tried to be funny, i did not intend to be insulting :( i am more interested in motorbikes tho, learning how to maintain my 1998 honda hornet
+George Tsiros hahahha no worries man. I was just playing around. Hah
***** of course. You can break something more than once.
This man does not blink. Great vid though man
I can almost smell the wd40
i got the straw stuck up my nose pulling the trigger 😂
I have a Jeep 2.5 that runs awful has severe blow-by so I figured I'd put new rings in it and while I'm at it refurbish the head, new springs, valve seal, and clean all the guides is this something I can do without pulling the engine it's very accessable in the Jeep oil pan is clear and head is very easy to pull with tons of room to work
Good tip here .DO NOT EVER SCRAP WITH A METAL OBJECT ON ANY ENGINE PART. take a plastic one its most safer to use then metal.metal makes deep sratch on the surface you work on
geen neppe onzin only if your an idiot. ever heard of a pneumatic chisel? used to use one to scrape about 20ft of gasket off locomotive engines. Granted they're good quality steel. It's all situational, depends on the metal you're cleaning.
Well off to clean my solid aluminum engine..
Scallie __ >calls op an idiot
>uses "your" instead of "you're"
KEK
>tries to use greentext on youtube
> completely lacks any reading comprehension
>lol I didnt call op an idiot you pleb.
Scallie __ >Tries to save face
>Fails
I always use a plastic coffee spoon to clean gasket material off delicate iron blocks. Ive almost finished cleaning off my pontiac 400 engine which i started doing in 1984.........
Great video! I love how you break every step of your work down and keep it simple while informative. Keep it up HumbleMechanic!
I think its safe to say if someone was building a 1000 hp engine they wouldnt be here watching this as an instruction video lol
im just worming my way thru you tube only reason im watching
Nice man, i'm learning a lot here. I'm not a mechanic but like you explain it -everybody can do this.
Thanks so much :)
I mean, anyone is capable of most anything if you really apply yourself, you just have to want to do it and have an open mind and patience
DUUUDE... so much fluff!! get on with the repair already... i am at 4:30 of you just repeating yourself about the damn wd40.. we already know you are using the non-aerosol version.. cool idc...
Forget like, love your videos man !!! highly professional and so well layed out!
VR6!
Wd40 dries completely overnight, I've used it industrially for years. For certain applications, I'll add an ounce of oil or atf the the spray bottle to prevent complete drying
Are you sure that was enough WD-40
you re the best my guy, i did not want to hone my cylinder wall
4:48 look at those scotchbrite fibers fly!!! into the engine you go! burn up those main bearings, wheeee!
That's why you can't use the disk type they fling the stuff everywhere. Notice how he has the engine partly covered
Morning Humble,
I have a GM 4 cylinder inline. Im replacing the head gasket as it has blown and no compression in tow cyl.
As I read the book on this they say not to remove the carbon ring at the top of the cylinder. Not sure why they say this only as it may be a caustion not to drop anything in the cylinder?
After watching your video I plan on doing just what you did and clean ,clean ,clean.
Thanks for the WD-40 on the paper towle tip too.
Skipper
After watching this video and reading around to do my own head gasket, I'm finding lots of warnings about the dangers of using Scotch Brite for any kind of engine surface prep. Apparently, it's practically impossible to get all of the Scotch Brite particles out of the engine, and the aluminum oxide abrasive will destroy the bearings and basically anything else that moves and has tight tolerances 😬
There are apparently technical service bulletins out there about this, but this explanation makes enough sense to me that I'll be pursuing other means: www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=563163
Thank you
I assume that if you're doing a machine-shop style job where you're going to aggressively power wash the parts before reassembly, it might be okay, but if (like me) you're doing this in your driveway and not pulling the whole engine, prolly not a great plan...
I ended up taking the head I was working on to a shop for resurfacing and just very carefully cleaned the block surface with steel and plastic scrapers.
I have ~195psi of compression on all four cylinders of the 2.3L F23A1 Honda engine I was working on.
Any method you choose will have nay sayers and “ warnings”.
I use "industrial" paint remover that you can spray. You don't even need to scrub. It removes oil and carbon super easy. You spray it once or twice and rinse off with brake cleaner. I kinda like the burning feeling of it on my bare hands also. ;)
I cleaned a junk yard motor last week and it works awesome. WD40 is nice, but you'll need a lot of scrubbing.
you can buy those pads at the dollar store for a dollar
No shit sherlock!
No those are snap on brand pads that are only $299 lol
Super scraper man. The best scraper there is.