Stackcables Tip: Use a single very slow LFO set to +/- 5V; stack that signal to every modulation input that has its own attenuverter in the whole patch. Play around with the attenuverters while listening to the patch. It is OK to have the attenuverter at zero (null signal)!
Totally into this, my own system I'm working on is based on using stackables, we've mentioned before about organismic system, I think as a way of further processing such a thing it's a great way of avoiding that becoming a flat 2D sound upon further processing.
It’s funny, I use stackables on my TipTop Buchla modules, but hadn’t considered for Mutable. This is a stellar patch mate! Well done. Meanwhile, I’m going back to the drawing board, as they say.
When I finished and posted this video I wondered if maybe this 'blindspot' was overrated, but it's not. I now realize I overused them in this video and you don't always need them for every patch, especially when you have mults. However, I see many small cases with no mults and no stacks.There's no good or bad in modular, but there's plenty of unused potential and a lot to (re)discover.
This was great! Because I have a tiptop rack I got into stackables…..after seeing this….realizing I have a Mutable rack es well…hmmmmm going to be so much fun, thank you
Personally I preferr Elements into Clouds due to Elements exiter part and its envelope. Modulate Elements and put it into a modulated Clouds, and set Clouds to halfway mix and you have an orchestra. Those two were made for each other.
How good those MI modules sound. Still love them so much. Great observation, in VCV I go wild with stacking, in my physical set up not so much, only for feedback looping.
I have always had a handful of TipTop Stackcables (a pair of long ones and a pair of shorter ones). They have always been the first to get used in a patch and, until now, I never put it together that maybe I need more!
I find that using bananas also changes how I think about patching. The signal flow is much more direct literally but also conceptually. Or maybe that’s just doing stuff with Serge lol. Another great thing about bananas is the ability to patch just by touching it to the jack. It is effortless to wander around trying different connections. It can also be a great way of playing as well, super easy to connect and disconnect repeatedly in the moment. If I ever did eurorack I would have to be all in on stackable cables, can’t imagine not having that tool.
This is one area where virtual really lets you run wild, as all the cables are essentially stackable (well, they are in MiRack and VCV). I occasionally get a bit frustrated with my hardware synths when I run out of mults.
Tip: Find the cable length that can reach diagonally across your case and only buy that length. I have “evolved” from multicolored Hosa & Stackcables to just 40cm Stackcables for my 6U-60HP instrument.
This probably works well for smaller cases, but with bigger setups it only makes everything more obscure to read. It is even worse with classic approach to modular, where you rely on very simple modules and very complex patches.
@@desnou When a 150cm Stackcable costs the same as a 20cm Stackcable; just buy once. It is also a workflow issue, my thought process works better when I stop thinking about the cables.
Whether, stackables, or mults (I'm now using Intelligel's Unity Mixers (2) .. in strategic spots on my skiffs - 2HP widths) .. I too, am of the opinion, that this is one powerful feature. Besides the "Y" out of Marbles, for some additional "magic", .. merging either 2, or all 3 "T" outputs, via the unity mixer, into V/Oct of Beads, let's say, .. or, taking a channel of Stages, in the ramping/green mode, being triggered from Pam's, and having that assist someplace, downstream. There's no way to reproduce the effect later on, like you say .. I have taken photos, and have stored them with the recordings, IF the session is particularly fruitful. Thanks man
That's the problem with Stackables. I think it's Y out to Bias IN and a stackable from Bias IN to Blend IN. The general rule of thumb is there must be an IN and an OUT somewhere in the chain so the voltage can go somewhere. So it's possible to have an IN + OUT + OUT to. When you'd patch OUT to OUT, nothing should happen. Same for IN to IN, but I noticed on my Serge this isn't always true. It's a magical world.
Every time I've ordered a stackable cable it's been WAYYYYY too long. I'm not good with metric so maybe that's why, but they also seem like a hot commodity and the normal length ones are rarely in stock. Maybe this video will increase demand...
@@CinematicLaboratory I did manage to get some of the green ones and they are great! when bought the longest orange ones, I was really hoping for a medium sized one, lol. I think I misread the ' for feet as " for inches lol
@@CinematicLaboratory At a minimum it's definitely worth learning to solder. I'll have saved more than €1200 after an Oneiroi becomes my 16th DIY module, compared to what they'd have cost fully-assembled. Plus building them is so relaxing it's half the reason I buy DIY kits.
Did any patch cables spontaneously burn threw during the filming? Because clearly Vger wants to join with the creator 😜 I advise against allowing that unless you want your entire setup to evaporate before your eyes 😂😈🫡
Stackcables Tip: Use a single very slow LFO set to +/- 5V; stack that signal to every modulation input that has its own attenuverter in the whole patch. Play around with the attenuverters while listening to the patch. It is OK to have the attenuverter at zero (null signal)!
Awesome! Best Rings into Clouds I've heard. I usually get the rash, but this was fantastic. Great stackable patching. :)
Stacks, passive mults, buffered mults, these are the tools of both organization and of good chaos.🙂
fine example. Thank you sir.
Totally into this, my own system I'm working on is based on using stackables, we've mentioned before about organismic system, I think as a way of further processing such a thing it's a great way of avoiding that becoming a flat 2D sound upon further processing.
Stackables are great!
It’s funny, I use stackables on my TipTop Buchla modules, but hadn’t considered for Mutable. This is a stellar patch mate! Well done. Meanwhile, I’m going back to the drawing board, as they say.
When I finished and posted this video I wondered if maybe this 'blindspot' was overrated, but it's not. I now realize I overused them in this video and you don't always need them for every patch, especially when you have mults. However, I see many small cases with no mults and no stacks.There's no good or bad in modular, but there's plenty of unused potential and a lot to (re)discover.
This was great! Because I have a tiptop rack I got into stackables…..after seeing this….realizing I have a Mutable rack es well…hmmmmm going to be so much fun, thank you
Personally I preferr Elements into Clouds due to Elements exiter part and its envelope. Modulate Elements and put it into a modulated Clouds, and set Clouds to halfway mix and you have an orchestra. Those two were made for each other.
I can’t live without my stackables, this video inspired me to grab a few more 😅
beautifull and inspiring idea, thanks for that!
The Blue Ribbon Alchemist again conjures the ghosts from the Machine.
thats quite a breadth of character there.
I use cheap 3.5mm headphone splitters as multis - 1 input to 4 outputs
How good those MI modules sound. Still love them so much. Great observation, in VCV I go wild with stacking, in my physical set up not so much, only for feedback looping.
Very nice bro 🔥
I bought a set of Y FF-M cable instead of stackable because stackable were so expensive! It’s messier when you patch, but it works!
I have always had a handful of TipTop Stackcables (a pair of long ones and a pair of shorter ones). They have always been the first to get used in a patch and, until now, I never put it together that maybe I need more!
Thank you this was fun and horrifying and everything in between : )
I overdid it a little. I should have kept all non-stacked connections standard.
@@CinematicLaboratory Na, I'm not sure about that as It looked really good to, and you got the point communicated very clearly. .
I find that using bananas also changes how I think about patching. The signal flow is much more direct literally but also conceptually. Or maybe that’s just doing stuff with Serge lol. Another great thing about bananas is the ability to patch just by touching it to the jack. It is effortless to wander around trying different connections. It can also be a great way of playing as well, super easy to connect and disconnect repeatedly in the moment. If I ever did eurorack I would have to be all in on stackable cables, can’t imagine not having that tool.
This is one area where virtual really lets you run wild, as all the cables are essentially stackable (well, they are in MiRack and VCV). I occasionally get a bit frustrated with my hardware synths when I run out of mults.
Tip: Find the cable length that can reach diagonally across your case and only buy that length. I have “evolved” from multicolored Hosa & Stackcables to just 40cm Stackcables for my 6U-60HP instrument.
Thats mighty good advice..👍
This probably works well for smaller cases, but with bigger setups it only makes everything more obscure to read. It is even worse with classic approach to modular, where you rely on very simple modules and very complex patches.
@@desnou When a 150cm Stackcable costs the same as a 20cm Stackcable; just buy once. It is also a workflow issue, my thought process works better when I stop thinking about the cables.
I use the shortest the most. I think I have about 5 cables that can do the diagonal.
This is inspiring mate. I've got some stackables but rarely use them. I think I'll dig them out.. 😊
Whether, stackables, or mults (I'm now using Intelligel's Unity Mixers (2) .. in strategic spots on my skiffs - 2HP widths) .. I too, am of the opinion, that this is one powerful feature. Besides the "Y" out of Marbles, for some additional "magic", .. merging either 2, or all 3 "T" outputs, via the unity mixer, into V/Oct of Beads, let's say, .. or, taking a channel of Stages, in the ramping/green mode, being triggered from Pam's, and having that assist someplace, downstream. There's no way to reproduce the effect later on, like you say .. I have taken photos, and have stored them with the recordings, IF the session is particularly fruitful.
Thanks man
They keep getting bent because of their height. I have heavy fingers.
Haven't invested in stackables yet... mostly because I enjoy collective passive mults a little too much
Mults are also fine for many recipes. You'd need stackables when you frequently run out of mults or built a case that doesn't have any.
An other very good video! But, you patched the Marbles Bias IN into the Coulds Blend IN (blue cable) ? I need some explication hehe!
That's the problem with Stackables. I think it's Y out to Bias IN and a stackable from Bias IN to Blend IN. The general rule of thumb is there must be an IN and an OUT somewhere in the chain so the voltage can go somewhere. So it's possible to have an IN + OUT + OUT to. When you'd patch OUT to OUT, nothing should happen. Same for IN to IN, but I noticed on my Serge this isn't always true. It's a magical world.
Every time I've ordered a stackable cable it's been WAYYYYY too long. I'm not good with metric so maybe that's why, but they also seem like a hot commodity and the normal length ones are rarely in stock. Maybe this video will increase demand...
I started from the shortest (10 pieces) and worked my way up to 70 cm (5 pieces). The green ones are shortest, but used the most in my patches.
@@CinematicLaboratory I did manage to get some of the green ones and they are great! when bought the longest orange ones, I was really hoping for a medium sized one, lol. I think I misread the ' for feet as " for inches lol
Think I'll save my money, and just DIY a bunch of inline passive 3 and 4 way mults from thonkicons and stripboard.
I wish I was DIY savvy!
@@CinematicLaboratory At a minimum it's definitely worth learning to solder. I'll have saved more than €1200 after an Oneiroi becomes my 16th DIY module, compared to what they'd have cost fully-assembled. Plus building them is so relaxing it's half the reason I buy DIY kits.
I might guess you didn't watch videos from Blush Response? he's almost using only stackables
I watch all Joey's videos but he has a way of making you focus on the music.
clouds is digital voodoo
Personally, I hate ‘em. I have a few that rocked up with some synth or other, but I never use them. Buffered or starfish mults are the way to go imho.
Please don't be a flatlander. Perhaps go to a fractal dimension and use a few stackables now and then?
Did any patch cables spontaneously burn threw during the filming? Because clearly Vger wants to join with the creator 😜 I advise against allowing that unless you want your entire setup to evaporate before your eyes 😂😈🫡