Moog Subharmonicon | Two Years Later
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2022
- When the 'Sub' was launched in 2020, I did not feel it was my thing. But I was also missing two years of experience. In my last video I rediscovered the Mother-32 when I added a Warps and joined it with the 0-Coast.
I usually hear Subharmonicon making 'organ' sounds and simple (but intricate) polyrhythms. It's a great design, but it just did not suit my experimental cinematic/westcoast style. Then I realized that in modular, it's not the module that makes the sound, it's the sum of all modules involved. Just looking at the patchpanel triggered my curiousity so I decided to get a 'Sub' instead of a Mavis. Just fooling around with it for a day, but the results are amazing. To be continued! - เพลง
This is the best Subharmonicon video on TH-cam.
Yes, it is!
It's probably the best modular channel on TH-cam.
And the guy's really helpful too if you have questions. He seems like a really good fella.
@@christopher_ecclestone I am not so bad :).
A sumptuous feast for eyes and ears. We have eaten well.
Got to stop watching videos like this. Now all i want to do is go home and play with my sub..instead its a night out... lol... this machine is magical. It is the first one i start with when i want to create an atmospheric backdrop to a tune. Its also a love hate relationship. Sometimes i just stare at it and think...why...
I can completely relate to this :) Sorry for the late reply. I try to read as much as I can, but a cool comment is easy overlooked....
Watching your videos is as good as meditating.
Wow, thank you Stu! Indeed it is. I lost quite a few hours patching things up. What looks like a few minutes on video, sometimes took hours in real life. But it's such a great hobby.
@@CinematicLaboratory making something look effortless takes a TON of effort. I’m with Stu
Fantastic video! The content is super informative and inspiring and I really dig the way you present it with text instead of voice over. Bravo and thank you!
Wow, thanks so much!
You are most welcome!
Love the atmospheric and almost ethereal vibes you’ve crafted with that Sub. Nice space ambient soundscape.
Nice video with a unique production vibe. Intimate and informative, while keeping the focus on the sounds. Good job
Brilliant, inspiring, instructive! Thank you.
Inspiring as always. Thanks!
Love the sound - very Krell, thanks for inspiring!
Awesome as usual. Sitting in my dark room and put it up on the tv and thx sound. Just sooo nice 😊
Thanks for sharing this! It's amazing to know my videos have added value like this.
Sounds great! Kudos!
Wow! This is ace… I have a SubH, various other semi-modular synths and have just ordered my first case and modules. Two of the ones I’ve ordered are Maths & Pam’s New Workout… I expect sleep is going to be a rare commodity for a while! Excellent video man, cheers! 👍
Bro has two shared systems I love it, it was nice to hear it plays so well with all these make noise modules that I own
Inspirational video. Thanks for sharing.
Great ideas! Thanks a lot. This is quite a lot to process 😀
Outstanding!
That’s was inspiring! So good!
Thanks!
Love this!
I really enjoyed this
Super cool!!
The art of not giving a s@#t, the most noble of pursuits. Just look at the results. Beautiful.
Excellent
excellent!
Very nice.
To clarify, virtually everything apart from a pure sine wave contains upper harmonics. Just don't want someone watching this to be misinformed about what makes an organ sound like an organ.
Well, thank you for clearing up the misinformation but I was referring to the registers you can slide in. Regardless, I don' like the sound of it.
Fatastic work, super creative with the Sub. Your freewheeling attitude breads creativity within us. Thx!
You're so welcome!
10:16 i made some patches by using 4 of them and sent them to a sequential switch so i had the main output for chords and the single notes to the switch which i've sent to the DFAM, an effect or whatever. nice video with some great results! fits very well to your channel name :)
Thanks for sharing! Do you have it on video somewhere? Such setups definitely deserve a channel!
@@CinematicLaboratory this is the only one i've uploaded th-cam.com/video/XwqOvCV5b6c/w-d-xo.html
i can record something more specific if you want to
I've been wanting to do that 6 out experiment with my SH - bought the mixer, but don't have the individual filters and VCAs (yet). Didn't think about polyphony so much, but individual processing of the oscillators to get 6 distinct sounds. So thanks for doing that science and making me think about polyphony.... Very, very cool.
Hi Paul, it was a fun experiment to do, but it's unlikely I'll do it again because of the subharmonic relationships. It's very hard to make proper music. But it can make a LOT of noise.
Good for you my dude. I've used my Subharmonicon for all of the above, and even with some Doepfer trautonium modules. I feel like it needs a couple extra patch points, like a NEXT gate
I've been checking out those trautonium sounds and it's a shame the Sub doesn't come close. I am going to do more research, I've seen Hainbach also doing some great magic with the Sub.
@@CinematicLaboratory You gotta use the Doepfer trautonium formant filter module and put the Subharmonicon through it, and keep the Moog ladder filter mostly open or bypassed completely
So inspiring! just got my subharmonicon and dfam a week ago. Love their company with makenoise easel @_@
I really need to make a M32, DFAM, SUB video soon. But it will take a lot of exploring before I dare to post something useful.
Your crazy.
Good shit
Love this! The Subharmonicon is the definitely the least touted sibling of the three in my next of the woods. Great to see its potential exploited a bit. :)
Thanks for checking it out! Coming up next (soon) is exploiting the sequencer to drive other gear. So cool...
Love it, beautiful and interesting sounds. Your videos are always interesting to watch. And you need to watch (not only listen), because your comments are always a great mix of interesting details, education and humor. Thank you and keep exploring 👌🏻🎶
Super thanks for your comments! I always have to think twice or more before I add a 'caption', making sure I don't speak bullshit, if it's spelled correctly (I am Dutch), if it's technically right and if my personal opinion is indeed personal. You can't imagine how many times I had to add 'I think' and 'I feel' to the comment because social media sometimes feels like a minefield. Fortunately the modular community is forgiving and supportive. I love to make videos for the modular world.
Electronic witchcraft… yes. Awesome textures!
Nice video. Experimenting now by midi pairing the subh to Octatrack, audio out from subh to Octatrack and then some patching between the subh and grandmother.
the subharmonicon have a lot sound for exploring, I think lot of people subestimates these gear. the combination with MF's its gorgeous
I definitely underestimated and underappreciated it before I got one. It took a while to realize there's more than what's on the panel.
That things sings it's won wonderful tune..
I love that Submarine clip - I love your Lableaks ..... and your spacey progressive musical ideers ,-
Thank you Mikkel!
Not a bad way to spend $15,000 and untold hours of proper effing around.
It's much cheaper compared to marrying a partner who smokes weed and loves to own a horse. And a farm.
I've got a similar money pit good sir.
Perhaps that's why we enjoy our machines and gadgets. They don't bitch.
Peace and love. God bless you and yours brother
modular synths are like sculpture 💯
Yes, that's how I feel it. You start with a rock, clay or a blank canvas and then you need to figure out what beauty is hiding in there. It's not always beautiful, but always worth it.
Great video with inspiring sounds. I too am struggling with the sounds of the subharmonicon sounding too “nice” or almost cheesy like a kind of chip-tune 80s video game soundtrack.
This gave me ideas to darken it. I have a Strega, 0ctrl, and Pam’s. Any other ideas for good module pairings? Was there a lot of mimeophone processing in this video? I kind of wish you got a little more detailed with the patching so I could better wrap my head around the process. Any other tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
You talking about the filter right at the beginning just got me thinking about just *how much bass* it loses with resonance, it's quite exasperating sometimes😅
I wait another two years and explore the B.udget version.
Fab, fab, fab! I only got the SubH a couple of months back and - doing it's thing - it's a fun instrument. Hearing you use it like this, though, is inspiring.
Thanks for watching and I hope I'll find new ways to use it. It's fun 'in the box', but there is always more space 'outside the box' :).
Wonderful!! 👏👏👏
Great synth demo! The English phrase you referred to as "trial on error" is actually "trial and error." I'm going to let you off with just a warning this time. Now you know, for future use! Cheers.
What effects are you using? Are you using a DAW for effects?
Main effects are coming from Desmodus Versio from Noise Engineering. At the end I think I used Mimeophon. I use Replika XT from Native Instruments occasionally, but I don't think I've used it here because Desmodus and Mimeophon are powerful enough on their own.
Love my SH. So glad they got the bugs worked out FINALLY. She is the heart and soul of my system and I’ll never tire of her.
I suggest programming 1-maj4-maj6 scales in Just Intonation and running the two seq. outs into a precision adder, no quantization needed. Also works with 1-min3-min5. Just intonation let’s one create “additive” scales without the need to quantize the result. Leads to many new ideas like easily pitch bending your whole patch.
Hope you enjoy years of fun with your SH. Now that the sequence clk out jacks work and the rest of the bugs seem to be at bay(for now)she is a real beauty.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely try this in my next Sub video, where I'd like to exploit the sequencer. I wasn't aware it had bugs, one of the benefits to dive into this machine two years later :).
I wanted it for the same thing & mine arrived yesterday, but I had to return it this morning, as it produced no output signal & it ha a stuck down trigger. I'm hoping to get a replacement.
BLIND SPOT you heard it here first, don't get it twisted.
> 'Trial on Error'
Trial and Error
> the tail is sweeped
the tail is swept
> not sure this is done before
not sure this has been done before
I wish I could correct these mistakes, but it's a bit like a blind spot. TH-cam doesn't allow a reupload without losing stats and comments. After a while you don't see them anymore. And I am dutch so I can't see what I don't know. I'll just doublecheck more in my next videos, but I don't mind if my stuff isn't perfect. And I think I'll put 'Trial on Error' on a T-shirt because it's almost like a movie where people get punished when making a mistake.
It's structural problem :). th-cam.com/video/dZKqC0v6nZ8/w-d-xo.html
Love it when people discover the Subharmonicon “beyond the organ” (which it does very well). If you want some further west coasty patches, I’ve got a bunch of high res patch templates for the SubH on my insta. 🙌
Yeah, it does sound a bit cheesy. Processing the crap out of it works, but what it really needs is stereo, for those voice blending vibes. Which can be done, if you can dedicate a mixer to the thing. Lots more filters would also be nice. And some VCAs.
Subharmonicon is my first synth and it can do so much things! I like it with some distortion before reverbs.
This is the Way :)
Don’t like organs??
Indeed. I've been thinking why. First reason is mandatory organ lessons playing music I did not like and second is the sound itself (exceot hammond with leslie speaker on a floyd album). I grew up in the 60's, 70's and 80's and I was super happy with the birth of the synth. Oh, and church organs are awesome too.
Check Louis Payne here
Do you sleep?
You are a mad scientist too. We sleep when we're dead.
Quatsch
How rude.
sorry@@CinematicLaboratory