MERCEDES G-WAGEN. I WANT ANOTHER ONE | StoryTIME Christmas countdown
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- Having owned two Mercedes G-wagens, I still hanker after another one
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This video IS NOT a hint about my next vehicle build. My research is on-going and I am driving quite a few vehicles to come to the best decision, which will probably only be made mid 2019.
You should seriously consider a Diesel Pinzgauer. Same factory as the G, but even better offroad and higher pay load. There are some vehicles up for sale with very low milage from the British Forces in Germany. Last sold for 20-25.000€ www.vebeg.de/web/en/verkauf/browse.htm?DO_SUCHE=1&SUCH_KAT=TkVVRVNURQ%3D%3D&SUCH_ZEIT=2&SHOW_AUS=1904350
Nifty. I enjoy your videos, and I don't want to impinge on what might be some aspect of your business model. But has it occurred to you that you keep building vehicles of roughly the same size and shape from a very few manufacturers? And that each time the platform limits seem to push you off in quest of a better setup? Your recent videos in North America show a need for better climate protection than seems reasonable in a mid sized boxy wagon, and you recently commented that you need more room to do video work on an extended trip. I think you were on the right track when looking at something maybe larger and less refined. I remain curious as to your final decision.
Andrew Fournier, yes, I think that's true. One thing I've learned from Andrew's channel is that it's not so easy to find the best platform for overlanding. One good choice then becomes a compromise in some area. E.g., weight. And, like you said, in North America we have bitter cold to contend with, and scorching heat.
Yet I hope the G will be in your next project as with your experience you probably going to build on that chassis an extraordinary overlanding machine - fingers cross for G-wagen!
Would be interesting to know your opinion on Y61 and Y62 Nissan's
This is better than 95% of the sensationalized supercar/newcar/latemodel car reviewers on youtube. So good, so informative, so real, so raw. Love it. Thanks, will be watching more.
I had a G wagon, with the skinny steel wheels, wind up windows, auto box, on a farm in the UK. But short wheel base. It was the most capable off road vehicle I have ever been in. It replaced a Land Rover 88, as the LR could not live with it. Being an auto, with little power on a farm, the labourers treated the throttle as a switch. On = flat out off = idle. When I left the farm (for sunny South Africa), it had done 500,000 miles. Never really serviced it; once a year I would feel guilty and drain the black sludge out of the engine, and refill it with tractor engine oil...then forget about it for another year!! Stunning. I have owned Toyotas, LandRovers, Range Rovers, but nothing came close to that G Wagon. I concur; simply the best.
Used 80s G-wagens with 300000km on the clock still easily go for $15K - $20K here in Norway. They've held their value amazingly well because they're really sought after by enthusiasts.
I've been so tempted by a gd300 or an 300 td with the awesome om606 or a 4 door g500 pre 99. But then you have the pajero evo for similar values
A new one would cost over $100k, and won't be street legal because it's doesn't have a DPF or AdBlue😁
We have the Galendwagens here at camp Lejeune. My local garage Kayo's has a government contract to repair them. God forbid the transfer case goes bad. It took them 3 months to get a transfer case. A second one came in from the base...same issue. These are based on the FAV version obviously.
Have got a gamekeeper friend who quite a few years ago had an ex military soft top G Wagen, for the near six years he had it, it NEVER broke down, it was used every day off road in all weathers, he always kept on top of maintenance, when he sold it due to him getting older he replaced it with a SWB G Wagen hardtop.
Come on Mercedes Australia give this man a great deal on a G Wagon and lets watch him build it it into a very capable overland vehicle. Don't forget all of us 50 year olds are looking forward to spending our pension lump sums.
The G300 Pro single cab is still very much a Mercedes product. 'You may push the seat back OR recline the seat. Not both at the same time'. We've got two at work and they make a pov pack 70 series feel like a Sahara 200 series in comparison. Some things, such as ergonomics, really do need to be updated from the 1980's
I have a 300GD 460 1981, it give you great confidence, it feels like you can go any where. I love my G. Great video, as always,been with you since the early days on youtube, thanks.
Do you still have it?
@@wodanowitz Yes i do still have it, but it needs a greate deal of work, i hope that i will get to fix it.
I used to drive the german military version of the G-Klasse, during my service time in the Bundeswehr, and i loved to drive the G, fully share the experience expressed in this episode!
... Karim, I suppose the, what it was called WOLF with manual gear, Diesel engine and lockers front and rear? They are awesome!
@@wodanowitz Yes, Bundeswehr code name WOLF, the original design short version with removable soft top. Great vehicle!
@@karim111although it‘s supposed to say there are big differences between the old Wolf and the more modern G-wagon, often referred to a „Greenliner“ like the one in this video.
Both are amazing, but i personally would always go for the modern professional one because it has so much more power and space.
@@heinzketchup4558 The Wolf is a legend. NOTHIN MORE TO SAY !
I love to follow your analysis of off-roading and of off-road vehicles. I marvel that after years of journalism, you are still just as passionate about your subject.
From my family to yours have a Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year, thank you for this year’s awesome content and I am looking forward to next year’s surprises.
From Elliot Lake Ontario Canada.
I have seen a couple of these standard models here in the US. Very rare and the owners are very proud of them because they know just how good the vehicle is. The ones here also use the 300 cdi engine to power them. Your stories are just so enjoyable.
I always have liked their looks. Good to hear they are good off road too. Thanks for the video, George.
Fantastic video! It is so great to hear your perspective on G-wagen.
Hi Andrew, greetings from Graz, Austria! With a lot of G wagons still leaving the factory......
AWESOME, clear and detailed explaneison about G-Wagen. Thanks for share your knowledge and experience with us
..thanks for this video. ..and I just moved from disco2 to kzj95L with 1kzte. Both perfect condition and no rust. Land cruiser makes me smile gor some bizzare reason
I love this video. I owned a '85 mil spec G230 from 97 till 01. And I know EXACTLY what you're talking about
Now I do want one, I thought it was a maybe. Love your work, wonderful stories.
Amazing..i always look forward to hearing your stories
First time I drove one of these (note I do own a Pinzgauer 710K diesel) was 1982 I had been driving British Army LWB FFR Landrovers......I was astounded, it was a G230 previously being owned by the Argentine Army.....The ride was super, off road the difflocks made a big difference to where I could go. Some great tracks around Port Stanley, so long as you weren't bothered too much about Land Mines..... Of course I was a young 23 yr old soldier (immortal as we all are at that age) and I noticed how much Petrol this G Wagen consumed, but in truth it was only because I could push it more than a Landrover, that is was less economical.......My ideal G would be a diesel.....but An early diesel.Fast Forward to 2019..and of course in Europe they have all been restored and cost the earth..here in Poland for the same price I could buy a G Wagen to the same spec as my wife's 2017 Rubicon unlimited.......I would have to settle for a 100,00kms 3-4 yr old G wagen.
btw in Germany we call this car "G-Modell" mostly [maybe except the internet kids ;-) who don´t know the older cars], not "Wagen" or "Class"/ aka Klasse. These are more MKT names.
460/461 and 463 are mainly the same car EXCEPT for the center diff > permanent 4WD and the new MKT approach from MB: Besides the M-Class also the G-Class had sales potential IF you put enough comfort in it > I have way more G 63 [500HP, 130k€ car] in Düsseldorf than in Marokko in the same period of time.
That is the G Modell image in Germany
Wishing you and your family merry Christmas and a safe new year to you and your family thanks for the tips and tricks to safely offroad
I just bought another G-wagen! I'm gonna keep this one on its stock steel rims and skinny tyres :)
Andrew two years on, Australia would love to see what is possible with a purpose built overland G project completed with the usual dedication and attention to detail!
Do it, Andrew. Buy one as a second Rig!!
Sure. And a Ferrari 458 for weekday use.
@Brad Młodystach ??? A 290GD like the one in the video goes used for like 15-20k.
@@4xoverland hhahaha
@@heiligerjesus1960 I'll take two then
I love this 😊 I love Land Rovers but I also love the back to basics G Wagons.
Hi Andrew, nice story, well said. I agree with you 100%. The G is an amazing truck and for all those who can get their hands on one, you will NOT be disappointed. It is expensive but the value is just there and you can feel it from behind the wheel.
André Its considered to be a wagon.
Thanks for the video Andrew. Your comments about the chassis is interesting, you should check out the 2009-2012 Dmax, they have a very solid chassis for a dual cab ute.
The g wagon story for myself started when I was 5, my mom told me. And it's A love end hate one. (W463 2000 300td automatic) brilliant car off-road on 35". But the cost of make it a overlanding ready car in a garage shop holy moly. Did modify a lot. The story of the bad shocks is real, happened to myself. Got the biggest shocks from koni. 3 times the size of the standard one's. The ride is extremely better now. Looking forward to see you have a g. Happy Christmas
could you please tell me a bit more, what is required to run 35" on the G
Awesome content as always
Wheels made of margarine... LoL! Absolutely love the G Wagon!
You just got me thinking.... May need to built another camper on a G. We are currently driving a 2001 Sprinter 311 4X4 Doka with a light weight composite camper body. The reason we choose this platform was the simplicity and robustness. Our truck is sharing many parts (rear axle, diff locks...) with the G. It come from the factory with steel rims and skinny tires. As you said, it's amazing how far you get with those!
Another and probably biggest reason to buy a Mercedes is the availability of spare part around the world. All you need is your chassis number and a dealer ship. In any case, thank you very much for your inside thoughts about the G.
Love the auto levelling lights at 13:16 passenger side only feature
That pick up version in Australia is amazing
My favourite vehicle too! I think you just gave us a hint of your next rig 😉
Had one of the early ones here in Australia. 5 cylinder non turbo, great vehicle for any 4x4 work but flat out at 105k/h on the highway. We have to travel long distances in Oz and that top speed was anoying. Would love a new one though.
Land Rover man becomes G man. Thanks for these daily treats Andrew.
To add, they *wildly* overloaded those 463s on the Canning Stock Route.
Wasn't that the thing where the support vehicles (which had the military versions shocks) had no shock failures?
The military versions are a totally different vehicle.
I recall the STOCK G had the failures, whereas the PROFESSIONAL Versions didnt have Problems.
My stock 1998 W463 G320 with a bit of attention on the maintenance is just fantastic on the sand here in UAE. No mods needed for a fine offroading experience.
I recently bought a Mercedes GD300 with an old but trusty OM617 5 cylinder diesel. It requires some body rebuild but I'm going to build an overland vehicle on it's base. I'll be very glad to see You building your next vehicle on a G Wagen.
Nice story! Wonder at how many souped up Gs I see here in urban Tokyo, those beasts need to roam in the wilderness! By the way, the point about getting the most basic versions vs the upmarket ones is very interesting. Will remember it when I get mine someday.
I remember watching a youtube video of how these beauties are built and my conclusion was: yep! that explains the price tag. Very nice video! (I watched the old ones already BTW)
So good mate. As always
Something in my heart dies whenever I hear Andrew talk trash about the W463. Tears come to my eyes.
Oh, come on. The W463 has become a mall-cruiser, a rapper's car, bling and revolting. I have a love hate relationship with the 463. They took a spectacularly good machine and ruined it. But I have to say, not as badly as they ruined the Range Rover.
I can understand, me my self i was looking one for longtime. And i found one Burundi, in a good looking couler. For 3000 us dollars. Which is a good price. But the engine is not good. So i have to buy another engine.
Greetings from Graz / Austria! The big Magna Steyr (manufacturer of the G) parking lot for the new Gs is less than 1km away from my home and I had an old Station Wagon (5Zyl Diesel without Turbo) as my daily duty car, when I was stationed 12 months as a peacekeeper in Kosovo 2015-16. The 20 year old Gs of the AUT army get beaten up by bad roads, get rusty, are patched up again etc, but they are more reliable and overall better (except the lack of HP of the naturally aspirated Diesel) than the Mitsubishi L200s who followed them. Constant problems with 5 year old cars... I also would love to own a G Professional, but the used prices are hardcore and one expensive vehicle (VW T6 California Beach) is enough for our household. Great vid! 👍
Would love to see Grand Tour do an off-road trip with one of these g wagons. That be a memorable episode. Doesn’t matter who’d be behind the wheel. I’m sure Clarkson would even paint something ridiculous on it, like “German Land Rover” and glue Toyota badges on the door as victory kills.
Clarkson would probably have it painted in red-white and black just to be offensive😂
They're amazing looking as an overland machine, I've thought about doing one with a Mulgo pop top, if Daniel would do it (retaining the original roof, latches on inside etc.) & Hesch style interior but the initial cost, even for a well used one, & availability of parts really put me off. If I had the budget however, I'd probably go for it as they're certainly a workhorse & a spacious platform for a normal size overland vehicle 👍
Nice story, thanks for sharing! :)
I think your videos are just great. They are so emo-rational. I drive a SWB, 80´s 300GD Austria Made, and i love it with its pros and flaws. I really think you could gather with Gunther Holtorf and make a dream team video!
Awesome story!
Awesome review. Loved it. Almost impossible to get a 70 series land cruiser in Canada, and the G wagons are so expensive
, So old land rover it is.
yay finally you listened longer videos I want them!!!!! See you in the usa Andrew!!!!!!
Wunderbar! Danke und herzliche Glückwünsche.
Two-door ute Gwagon
Quick pitch cab 1.8mm aluminium like Ronny
Twin side slide out / plus a bigger rear cab?
Drifta hardshell tent 👌🏽
Old man emu shocks 💪🏽
General X2 or Toyo AT2 or RT 🤷♂️
External maxtrax holder/table
Rock lights and a full tank of diesel ❤️
I watch this one over and over
Love it! I already want one!
Have you ever drive an Unimog?
Well earned Insights and wisdom from down under. Good on you, Andrew.
RE: 461 vs. 463. I wince a bit when I hear "totally different cars". Please forgive my literalness. For folks contemplating the start of a G-love journey, It's often easier/cheaper to discard all the luxury trappings you don't need when outfitting, than to add the few that you DO need when the car doesn't have them. A/C comes to mind, or heated seats. My SoCal method is this: Buy cheap beater 463 G500 that has never been beyond the curb. They're way more common and lower miles than 461s.These have 3 electric lockers, big brakes, aluminum V8s, etc. Strip and sell all the unwanted tart parts - mostly interior, for comical money. Then buy 16" beadlocks, proper tires, good dampers, cage, fuel cell, protection for oil cooler, rattle-can camo the body to hide all the . . everything, then drive it like you stole it to the nearest mud hole or rock pile. I have two, a 2000 and a 2002. They look like hell and I'd love a Blutec , but maaan, the V8s get it when hooning. Ugly can be so beautiful . . and cheap. They're brilliant!!
Still longing to find a cheap and unloved Mog though . .
Cheers from Anza-Borrego Ca.
the pictures from Sani Pass bring back good memories
When i see this professional G-wagen, i see what i love in my Suzuki Samurai : simple efficiency.
The vw syncro was also available at the time with front and rear diff lock.
You're the king of overland to me, no doubt about it.
Agreed..
The G-Wagon is just awesome, I would LOVE to own one of these one day. But it will make no sense at all, we dont have places to go offroad and our car is used for normal driving on roads 99.5% of the time.
When we do have snow or I deside to drive on a we lawn, then my subaru impreza does just fine.
I used to drive these G-wagons in the army, and we trashed these cars pretty hard in any situation in the terrain, we NEVER had a brakedown or any other failures at all.. what this vehicle can do offroad is just amazing..
G-wagon.. all the way if I had to pick one for an around the world tour !
Couldnt agree more! Wish i had one too...!
I agree with the comment on the 1HZ vs the modern V8 cruiser. The Africa NGO spec. cruiser I think is more sensible unless you're towing 3 tons all day everyday.
As you said in the old G-wagen video: Wonderful and absurd G...
It is a dream machine, but the price... unfortunately (as far as I know) they are still mainly hand build and that is one of the reason for the high prices. Although the image factor and "I can charge you more" play significant role as well.
😀thanks for this one Andrew
Best as always. I think Id go for HZJ 76. Troopy is great too but being real, I will never do a proper "around the globe" trip. So 76 for me. Currently owning Hilux, Prado and Wrangler.
You should get a 4x4 Squared for those portal axles!
good insight!
Loved it !!
This is a good précis on your G films.
Well done Mr Andrew 😎
Mercedes-Benz : Engineerd like no other car in the World!
a Gelande Wagen is my DREAM CAR!
Jan Bloem had they fix there leak problem?
@@gennews8590 : First of all - It's Their and not There.
Secondly a Mercedes-Benz NEVER leaks - if however at the off chance that it does leak, you've overfilled it. Allow it to settle down and take it to your nearest Mercedes-Benz dealer and tell them : listen guys, I can't even spell (there vs their), so PLEASE help me with my car. And you'll see : problem solved!
Jan Bloem ah you know a Mbenz owner when you see the garage floor. No worries I use to have a couple and got tired of cleaning the floor and the smell of burning oil. Oh yah thanks for a being a spell checker police. Lol!
yeah you mean overenginered but scary at the same time thats why people really fear about reliability issues they are great cars but there is alwys a but!!!!!
@@landrover1155 same company that makes the rifle?????
Can’t wait to meet you one day , I’ve been following u since day one on TH-cam
Here in Colorado I have never seen one being offroaded but I seen several being valeted.
Wish we could get those Gwagons in the Us. We only get the fancy priced higher then the moon ones.
Hi, 2015 we had our G 320CDI rebuilt on original Mercedes portal axles, the difference to before could not be bigger. Best fits the M 273 engine for this purpose, a winch you need then no more. In this way, we drive the toughest tacks in southern Africa or should I say fly?
who wouldn't love a g wagon, awesome
Been watching your videos and was wondering why this video had not shown on the subscriber video feed. Turns out I was not subbed, well subbed now!!
Hey. I really like yours stories and specially the Gwagen ones! I stay and wait another ones to come. Thanks Greetings from Finland where im rebuild few w460 series 300GD🇫🇮
rebuilding 460s? amazing work, would you be willing to document it online by video or pictures?
The mono brow at 7:20 😂
Please get one Andrew! TH-cam needs more content on Gs!
I found one W460, in Burundi. For 3000 dollars. And it's still looking very good.
Andrew, you compared the quality of the chassis build to that of a Patrol, it's a shame Nissan no longer build a large diesel for that vehicle.
Hey Andrew. If you can get your hand on a Lada Niva. I guarantee you will be amazed of how capable and cheap these things are. It's utilitarian and super cheap to maintain and upgrade. Comes with a proper 5 speed manual a low range a center diff lock and an optional aftermarket front and rear lockers. You can change the final drive ratio from 3.9 stock up to 5.12! You can even change the TC low range ratio from 2.1 stock to 2.55 or a 3.15! Comes with spring suspension solid axle rear and IFS front. And lift kits available up to 2.5 inches. The newer ones come with ABS and EBD. Heated front seats. Electric windows. Heated side mirrors. I have some videos on my channel if you wanna have a look
I have driven a Lada Niva. Let me put it in perspective. The Niva is very good off-road, nimble, even athletic, but APPALLINGLY uncomfortable, cramped, terrible ride, badly equipped, woefully unreliable, poor range, can't get spares anywhere but Russia, no space to carry anything for a trip, thirsty with an ACAP safety rating that is so low, its off all existing charts. You can probably deduce that its not for me :-)
@@4xoverland haha dully noted. You're right. Not for your long trips
You're the man.
W460 300gd OM 617 right here!
You're a smart man, Andrew. Hope Mercedes come to the party....
One of my favourites of yours…
I just buying G Professional. Happy to join to the convoy if you will get one or share for some drive and do some good TH-cam material for your channel 😉
Would love to know your thoughts on the VW T3 Syncro which was also designed by Puch in Graz.
Love my old W460 with a 96 290t engine
Really nice history.
The G-Wagen is a proper made off-road machine. Unfortunately, in Europe, there are only available the luxury ones. The only ones I see nowadays are all AMG...
I'd love to hear your opinion on the new independent front suspension G wagen
These newer cars inspired by the originals most likely won’t appeal to him and hardcore off-roaders.
Great car. Drove one in the military. They could (and did) take a lot of abuse. I would love to see an Overland-Conversion by you, Andrew. I suggested to them to look into this. I hope they do.
Echoing this. We treated these things rough in the Army and asked a lot of them and they'd run really reliably. They could also do very well off-road.
It's far better as the new desaster called Ineos Grenadier 😇
My 1999 vintage 461 Steyr Puch 290GD LWB Van, with Recaro seats and automatic gearbox will "do rightly", for another 20 years.
Oh P.S. I bought it directly from the UK Importers who had run it for 3 years as a factory support vehicle
@4xoverland I am a small collector of 90s cars, currently I have got an E38 7 series, W210 mercedes E class, and an Audi Allroad (1st gen), all of which I use as daily commute to the office, cocktail reception in the evenings (before Covid stikes), etc. They are all practical classics. The allroad is my go-to car during the rainy seasons especially.
I am recently thinking to replace the Allroad to either a Landcruiser 80 Std (with the steel rims and barndoors), or a late 80s 280GE, or if I can get one, an early 2000s 290GD (quite rare in my country as they are primarily only imported as presidential escort cars). Which is a better choice? the 80 Landcruiser Std or a Diesel 290GD? Either way it must be with the narrow steel rims for both cars as I love the utilitarian look of them. I want something that is classic and eternal, as I rarely change/buy new cars. The BMW 7 and the E-class is a permanent fixture in my collection (i intend to use them until perhaps decades later when petrol cars might be banned)