5 Reasons Why Grindelwald Was More Powerful Than Voldemort

[@anasousa7306]

I would add another reason: as Dumbledore says many times, love is the most powerful form of magic. Grindelwald is capable of love. Voldemort isn't. Grindelwald 1 - 0 Voldemort

[@anakinmidwalker4322]

Ok, love doesn’t correlate to magical prowess, mcgonnagall can feel love and she got shit stomped by voldemort

[@anasousa7306]

@@anakinmidwalker4322 I'm just citing Dumbledore. And remember, love was the magical force that protected Harry from dying several times

[@MegaGandalf12]

@@anakinmidwalker4322 Yeah but Lily's love literally killed Voldemort without even using a wand.

[@anakinmidwalker4322]

@@anasousa7306 i mean yeah it has its protections, but love isn’t going to helps grindelwald in a one on one duel

[@anasousa7306]

@@anakinmidwalker4322 you have a point, I agree with you, but if we imagine that they are even in terms of power, in the end, Grindelwald is better because of love. Also, power is not only about winning duels

[@ray101892]

He also knew the lore. He shot a disarming spell at gregorovitch to become the true owner of the elder wand. Voldy was a dumbass and assumed Snape killed Dumbledore that easily when he himself failed and didn't bother taking out memories or at the very least, interview the other death eaters who were present. "The greatest wizard besides me got taken out by my subordinate who I fully trust. That woman I killed when I should have spared for as a favor to him years ago surely won't come back to bite me right? right?"

[@00SNIVY00]

The other deatheaters could perhaps have submitted memories to Voldemort, but wouldn't it be possible for at least Snape to provide a false memory like Slughorn did? I wonder how that could've turned out should Voldemort look into those memories. Snape could resist any legilimency, but would that play into providing false memories?

[@Mukation]

It's made abundantly clear that Snape's powers in mind reading and mind control is what allowed him to fool Voldemort. Voldemort obviously read his memories (false ones) that convinced him he was loyal.
Voldemorts own pride of his owm abilities never assumed he could be outsmarted.

[@nguyenphungdunganh3941]

just correcting: grindelwald stunned gregorovitch

[@ruairikendall302]

Voldemort could never understand love that was his greatest weakness he could not imagine how snape would betray him for a woman he loved as a teenager

[@stevenbass732]

Don't forget the legend of the elder wand. Every owner of the wand died at the hand of the next owner. Knowing that legend, Voldemort would naturally think that that was necessary to actually possess the wand. Voldemort probably thought that Grindelwald's defeat was a fluke.

[@sebastianmartinezdiaz8595]

Dumbledore said to Harry that he and Grindelwald were exactly the same in magical strength, something that dumbledore never acknowledged to voldemort. Since Dumbledore and Grindelwald were almost equally strong and powerful one can deduce who is the most powerful between the 2 dark wizards. Besides, Voldemort was a racist whose cause was only favor the pure bloods, unlike Grindelwald that believed the greatness of all magical kind no matter the blood status. Another thing is Grindelwald had more influence around the globe. Voldemort failed to conquer England alone.

[@KUNTAR]

Voldemort definitely could be categorized as a racist, however I am not sure how honest he was about that. With the way he discarded Pure Bloods in his service and the way he treated them, it seems his "racism" is more of a reflection of his personal feelings of superiority. The Pure Blood love seemed more like an excuse, a justification. In the end, it was always about numero uno. Voldemort didn't really seem to put a whole lot of value on Pure Blood when it came to it. The way he treats the Malfoys and others seems to show that the MUCH more important thing to Voldemort was his own power. Power over wizards and power over muggles. Whatever it was, Voldy sits on the throne. The rest is just details on how to make that happen.

[@TV-sq1sg]

Dumbledore has explicitly stated that Tom Riddle may have been the most gifted student in Hogwarts history, including himself.
Let's also take into account that Dumbledore has fought two wars against Voldemort. They likely fought several times and neither could defeat the other. While Dumbledore had the Elder Wand, the single biggest amp in all of Harry Potter. And the Dumbledore against Voldemort would certainly be far more knowledgeable about magic than the one who faced Grindelwald while Grindelwald had the Elder Wand.
Voldemort did better against Dumbledore in fights than Grindelwald even when Grindelwald had far more advantages than Voldemort. For example, it was explicitly stated in the order of Phoenix that Fawkes took a killing curse that Dumbledore was unprepared for and couldn't otherwise have avoided in the duel with Dumbledore. Without Fawkes intervening he would have been killed then and there.
Also Dumbledore has explicitly stated Voldemort is the most powerful dark wizard of all time. I believe he said this when they are looking at the memory of Tom riddle at the orphanage in half blood prince.

[@whitechocolatexox]

@@TV-sq1sg please show me where “dumbledore and voldemort duelled several times” because i’m pretty sure on record they only duelled once and voldemort was on the offensive while dumbledore wasn’t simply trying to buy time to prove to fudge that voldemort has returned, so yes dumbledore wouldn’t never be able to kill voldemort but he would more often then not be able to slam him, even at his old age voldemort posed no threat to him and i think you forget that voldemorts strongest weapon isn’t his magical ability, it’s the fear and terror he causes, dumbledore is one of the few wizards in the wizarding world who refuses to acknowledge him by “the one who must not be named” instead referring him to “tom”, so idk how you came up with that conclusion but please do more research next time

[@TV-sq1sg]

@@whitechocolatexox Firstly, I said they likely fought multiple times considering during the first war they were the leaders of both factions. I didn't say we know they fought multiple times. I just assumed that the first purity war was many year long war and Voldemort/Dumbledore likely fought each other in the previous war. But you are right in the sense that we don't explicitly know that they fought before.
And second, Dumbledore never goes for the kill on anyone; it's simply not in his style or nature. So he doesn't get bonus points for holding for not going for the kill, that is his style. The only time where it is never implied to use lethal force is the childhood 3 way duel against Grindelwald where Ariana died, where he doesn't know who killed her, implying that Dumbledore too was casting with intent to kill. And that experience went so poorly for him at a personal level that I think he completely reinvented himself into the Dumbledore we see in later years who avoids using killing intent, probably from all the emotional trauma of possibly being the one who killed his sister.
If he suddenly switched up his style just to fight Voldemort, it would likely put Dumbledore at disadvantage simply bc he doesn't have the experience of fighting that way and would have to suddenly and completely adjust his mentality and reflexes to get over almost a century of habit, which would likely make him hesitate any more, which is likely more costly than any offensive benefit. And he doesn't get extra points for always being on the defensive for that duel, especially bc he needed outside assistance from Fawkes taking a killing curse that Dumbledore couldn't avoid to survive that duel, which let me remind you would have been at the beginning of the duel.
And yes Dumbledore was old but I suspect the Elder Wand and decades spent accumulating magical knowledge, likely provides more benefit than the costs of age since it isn't ever stated that aging decreases your magical power, so it's hard to even justify age as a factor at all.
And also Dumbledore knew Grindelwald as a child. Beat Grindelwald to end a war. And he considers Grindelwald
to be a dark wizard. And Dumbledore himself has explicitly stated throughout the novels that Dumbledore considers Voldemort to be the most powerful dark wizard of all time. Dumbledore himself believes that Voldemort is a more powerful dark wizard; and he is literally the only one in the universe who would know. Or do you think Dumbledore is such a poor wizard that he is incapable of assessing the strength of his opponent?

[@ArnoSchmidt22]

Grindewald was also a racist (collectivist). He believed magical people had more intrinsic value than non-magical people. That's literally supremacist thought.

[@acciomegapint2373]

I really like Grindelwald because he's very "realistic" as a villain. A manipulative dictator like we have witnessed in our history.

[@anakinmidwalker4322]

voldemort is a manipulative dictator too

[@elizabethmariediana6308]

Like Hitler?

[@crow_g1639]

Not your history if you aint a jew tho

[@crow_g1639]

Also voldy is like hitler

[@bellaknightR597]

@@elizabethmariediana6308 I'm pretty sure Voldemort was based on Hitler, unless that was just a theory... A FILM THEORY!!!!!

[@kainx99]

As depicted in the movies, to me:
- Grindelwald played the long game, which mades him much more dangerous than Voldemort.
- Voldemort used brute force, which can only take you so far.

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

It's quite opposite. Using manipulative lies and propaganda as Grindelwald did can only take you so far. Credence betrayed Grindelwald in that moment he discovered the truth.
Voldemort can lead by brutality simply because he demonstrates to be the strongest and most skilled dark wizard. That kind of act can attract many different kinds of followers.

[@ArnoSchmidt22]

@@headstrongbachelor3152 Nah. Selfishness beats evil every time. Most people aren't evil in the sense they'd simply follow a psychopath because he's strong. But most people are selfish and self-interested, so they could easily follow a manipulative narcissist telling them he's gonna make the world better (that literally happens every now and then in history and happened a lot in the 1900's).

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

@@ArnoSchmidt22 Voldemort told his followers that to create a world with peace and power the old regime need to be torn down. This is why the first wizarding war was so brutal. Voldemort's followers was as Dumbledore stated a motley collection; a mixture of the weak seeking protection, the ambitious seeking some shared glory, and the thuggish gravitating toward a leader who could show them more refined forms of cruelty."

[@josephrousell2818]

I believe in terms of magical magnitude, Riddle had more natural potential. Grindlewald, however, put in more hard work rather than coast on raw talent, he understood the fundamentals of all magic and the more advanced lore and the limitations, whereas Riddle didn’t care beyond a certain point if he believed it had no use to him. Love, for example.
Tom had no true understanding of love or it’s magic, but Gellert did, and used it as a shield against the only person who could stop him: Albus Dumbledore. That counts for a lot, as you can be destroyed for a lack of knowledge.
Tom had more raw power, Gellert likely had greater understanding, experience, and therefore, more skill.
Experience outranks everything, hard work trumps talent, power without true understanding leads to failure.

[@wildefice1]

Another difference between the two is their resolve. Grindelwald resigned himself to the outcome of his decisions. He accepted and embraced his mortality. He resolved himself to face Dumbledore without hesitation. Whereas Voldemort chose to hide or stall.
2nd reason: Fear
Voldemort feared death, he feared Dumbledore and he feared the mundane.
Grindelwald (as far as I could tell, possessed no fear, or overcame those short comings I'm his formative years)
Last one is just nitpicking really, but ... Grindelwald had class!

[@Swearengen1980]

You just reworded 2 of the very things in he said in this video.

[@wildefice1]

@@Swearengen1980 And you replied 😀

[@rhodrimorice7746]

@@Swearengen1980 "Now now Draco play nicely" 😆

[@penguintaco9038]

I didn't care for Mad's portrayal of Grindelwald because I feel the writers made him far less sympathetic as a villain in the 3rd movie. Because in the 2nd movie and Johnny Depp's version shows the Wizarding crowd the future and the next muggle World War along with the creation of the nuclear bomb with it's immense destructive power. Even Kowalski was shocked and praying it wasn't true and the if muggles continued this path they would put the Wizarding along with the entire world at risk so Grindelwald had no choice but to take over. Mad's version just looked like a generic bad guy trying to take over.

[@mmhmmmyearight7183]

I prefer Johnny but Mads was great too

[@connorj530]

I agree! I always said that. Depps portrayal was very refreshing in my opinion. He seduced people to his cause and his supporters genuinely wanted to serve him. Where as mads was more like Voldemort (Join me or else sort of mentality) you know?

[@ernestomoreno4409]

Personally I prefer Mads. Depp is just hard to take seriously in any role, he’s the bigger name so he gets a lot of grace.

[@f.dud4]

@Harry Potter Folklore Question: Can you do "Are House-elf able to recognize and identify Horcruxes?"
I went to rewatch Harry Potter movies and notice how uncomfortable their expressions were once they saw the Horcrux. In the second film, Dobby recognized the diary as an evil object just as Kreacher recognized Slytherin's locket in the seventh film.

[@ic8840]

Gridenwald also had the Elder Wand unless I’m mistaken. Voldemort never had full control of it.

[@prideoflondon3172]

And yet he lost while having full control, Voldi 1

[@StareachValcin]

True, but mastery of the elder wand doesn't necessarily play a role in who is more powerful. Albus Dumbledore did defeat Gellert Grindalwald in their final battle when the latter was the master of the elder wand. While the elder wand is the most powerful wand, this proves that the master of the elder wand can be defeated by a more powerful and/or better wizard with a less powerful wand.

[@schris3]

@@prideoflondon3172 The Elder wand can make you very powerful but not invincible, in fact Book Dumbledore stated that he was a shade more skillful than Grindelwald, and that's how he won.

[@LouisTravieon]

@@schris3 I was going to bring that up lol. Dumbledore was a shade more skillful, not necessarily powerful. I always thought, reading the books, that they were equal in power and knowledge, just Dumbledore had a slightly more skillful approach.

[@theriddler5601]

@@prideoflondon3172 Grindelwald was up against Dumbledore who is debatably the most powerful and most skilled wizard of all time who also only BARELY beat him. Voldemort was defeated by a 17 year old boy while only having a seventh of his soul left. I would say that it is a draw.

[@Bballfan1992]

I think people confuse evil and power. Voldermort was the more evil of the 2, but I think power goes to Grindelwald.
In the books, the only ones who say Voldemort was the strongest dark wizard, were all the recency bias people. It was only those who never really saw what Grindelwald did. Bellatrix was born multiple years after Grindelwald was defeated. So was Lucius and all the others. McGongall didn’t start school till a couple years after Grindelwald’s defeat. So the characters are forced to know only what they experienced which was Voldemort.
If we go off what we know, Grindelwald had more knowledge in more branches of magic than Voldemort. And knowledge is power. Grindelwald was a seer, which automatically gives him a edge over Voldemort as well. He was well trained, researched, and strong.
Voldemort was darker. He was pure evil. He had no love in his heart. He delved deeper into the dark arts, but that doesn’t mean he was stronger. He was a masterful duelist, and by far a legendary wizard of immense power. But I don’t think he had the power or the knowledge to beat Grindelwald. He was blinded by his own fear of death, and his lack of understanding all branches of magic.
Grindelwald’s downfall came at the end of a 3 hour long duel against the one he loved. Voldemort’s downfall came because he was arrogant and believed himself infallible. He was his own worst enemy.

[@ladyserenegrace18]

mcgonagall was a teacher when grindelwald was around she knows full well

[@Bballfan1992]

@@ladyserenegrace18 that’s not true. She was born in 1935, and didn’t start Hogwarts as a student till 1947, 2 years after the defeat of Grindelwald. Fantastic beasts 2 had a major plot hole showing her teaching at that time. It was completely incorrect. She didn’t start teaching till 1956, a full 11 years after he lost to Albus.

[@manzanogianni4935]

I would agree with you wholeheartedly. Grindelwald’s patience and control of his emotions would also give him an advantage that would save his life in a battle with Voldemort.

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

It won't because Voldemort demonstrates to be stronger and more skilled dark wizard.

[@ArnoSchmidt22]

@@headstrongbachelor3152 Dueling is not really about magical depths of power, but wit and decision making. A narcissistic psychopath (Grindewald) will always beat a sadistic sociopath (Voldemort) in a fight. Sociopaths are careless and can't control their rage, that usually leads to failure.

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

@@ArnoSchmidt22 Voldemort is not a sociopath. He is a psychopath. Tom Riddle was able to hide the beast within for many years until he became powerful enough to release it.

[@username.exenotfound2943]

wouldn't grindlewald be better at legilimens since voldermort couldn't get the information out of him

[@gellertgrindelwald4238]

He couldn't enter my mind because I was a hundred times the _Occlumens_ he was, my friend. It is Occlumency that stops people from getting information out of you. Not even Queenie Goldstein could do it, what chances does No Nose Snake Man have?

[@RZZZ889]

No, we don't know that. It only means that he was very good occlumens, Snape was also capable of fooling Voldemort with his occlumency,

[@username.exenotfound2943]

@@RZZZ889 was dumbledore able to do so?

[@RZZZ889]

​@@username.exenotfound2943 On wiki it says he could, but i don't remember an instance in which he did.

[@nicholasquinnsnyder6095]

Voldemort was definitely undoubtedly far more both evil & Murderous than Grindelwald.

[@ArnoSchmidt22]

Not really. Voldemort was just more hateful and uncontrolled. Grindewald just coldly ordered people to kill babies.

[@owenasuncion4372]

Tbh, the moment I watched that scene of Grindelwald doing the Protego Diabolica in Paris, I immediately thought Voldemort was a joke as a dark lord in terms of skill, power and knowledge. Grindelwald had depth to his character while voldemort is a murderous maniac obsessed to power and immortality who can't defeat a 17 year old boy when he decided to attack a high school which also ultimately ended up with his own death.

[@lilyrose0116]

Voldemort is a psychotic villain. He used power to control his followers. His campaign appeals to the pure bloods which allowed an easy divide on the population who supports or resists him.
Grindelwald was a seductive villain. He knew the history of the magical people and the tensions between magic & nonmagical population. He used that to his advantage. People came to him. And like some other commenters has mentioned, Grindelwald knew love and what it means to people, specifically how love can unite but also divide people. This makes him a more powerful villain.
Now in terms of actually magical abilities, we might not fully know. Voldemort pushed the limits of magical power for selfish reasons, immorality. Grindelwald didn't need to do that. He was extremely powerful but did not fear much to need to find other means of magic.

[@daniels7907]

Voldemort noticeably avoided the kinds of risks that Grindelwald took regularly. He also only fought Dumbledore briefly, and only because Dumbledore showed up at the Ministry while he was there. When it became clear that Dumbledore was not going to be defeated easily, Voldemort fled and never tried to fight him directly again. My personal sense is that most *British* wizards considered Voldemort to be the more powerful because he more directly threatened the British wizarding community during his two reigns of terror. Whereas Grindelwald was more of a global threat.

[@marianmarkovic5881]

Well Voldy didn fight Dumbledore ever again, since, whithin 2 months after that duel, Dumbledore stepped on landmine,.. oh sorry, was overtoken by emotions when he saw stone of revival, puting ring on while knowing it might be cursed. Here is sad thing,.. while Voldemort fear of death and colector personality was his undoing,.. Dumbledore died becouse love for his long dead sister.

[@daniels7907]

@@marianmarkovic5881 - True, but that only emphasizes the point. Even with Dumbledore slowly dying from a curse, Voldemort preferred to have a minion kill him, rather than try it himself. Voldemort was, fundamentally, a coward and a bully. He mostly stayed hidden, except when he was backed up by his Death Eaters or else quite certain that he could overpower those he attacked (e.g. James and Lily).

[@andakin117]

I personally have a theory that Grindelwald's actions have shaken things up for the wizarding world that would have had lasting affects for a century or more globally. much like how we are seeing the ripple effects WW1 over a century later in the actual world. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that many of Grindelwald's followers found other leaders in their own countries looking to change the world. I imagine Voldemort's earliest followers were the children of former Grindelwald supporters, (likely next would have been the surviving followers of Grindelwald himself.) sadly most of Grindelwalds followers I think were just Magic supremacists. Voldemort didn't have the slow ascent to power that Grindelwald had, which is why I believe that he was only really isolated to Great Brittan. I imagine that almost anywhere Grindelwald had a sphere of influence likely found a new local leader of sorts to replace him once he fell.
As to who was the more powerful of the two, I have to go with Voldemort. Grindelwald was without question the more influential of the two men by a landslide. However I don't think Voldemort would have had nearly as much success gaining followers as he did had Grindelwald not shaken things up a decade prior. We saw that many Death Eaters had speculated that Harry Potter may become the next rallying figure for their misguided prejudice and I have no reason to believe that they didn't lay in wait after Gridelwald's defeat for another to take his place. I personally believe that Voldemort likely had experimented with magic that Grindelwald was likely either too wise or just unwilling to research. I see Gridelwald walking the line between Dumbledore and Voldemort. Able to see the two extremes each man represented for what they were. Which is why I believe Grindelwald never conducted the magical experimentation Voldemort did. Because he knew what it would cost him. Just like Dumbledore knew what it cost the young Tom Riddle.
Many people look at their duels with Dumbledore as proof as to which of the two was more powerful and I have to say that's a poor comparison. Grindelwald was in possession of the Elder Wand during his duel with Dumbledore, and whether or not Grindelwald was the true owner of the wand or not does remain in question. (we could see a the final confrontation between Harry and Voldemort reflected in this in Dumbledore vs Grindelwald even. Which would give a great deal of reason why after being given the news of his death Dumbledore's firsth thought was how best to render the wands power useless.) What isn't for debate however, is that even though Dumbledore was 50 years older during his duel with Voldemort then he was during his duel with Grindelwald. Dumbledore was without question the true owner of the Elder Wand during his duel with Voldemort. We also know that even at the age of 115 and dealing with the curse would eventually claim his life, Dumbledore was just fine physically and able to keep his pace with the 16 year old Harry Potter during their trip to Voldemort's cave. Described as able to swim across the lake with a "Perfect breast stroke." Dumbledore may have been an old man but he was far from frail and while he may not have the same reflexes psychical capability of his youth his magical power was much greater then it was during his youth.
To be clear, I don't see this as a landslide victory for Voldemort. Everything Grindelwald is bringing to the table is a clear on obvious threat to Voldemort. In fact I believe that Grindelwald likely knew or would have easily discovered the existence of Voldemort's Horcruxes. When Voldemort finally arrived to meet Grindelwald face to face Grindelwald showed no fear because there was really nothing Voldemort could do to threaten him. Voldemort could kill him yes but death was something Grindelwald did not fear and even accepted. He knew his soul was not so damaged as Voldemort's was. Grindelwald laughed at Voldemort for everything he was. in all his fear, anger, hatred and narcissism, Voldemort had nothing to threaten Grindelwald with. Grindelwald knew that eventually Voldemort would face his own defeat, and when that eventually happened he would be trapped in limbo. In fact their one meeting that we know of was really Grindelwald telling Voldemort how foolish he was to do the things he had done, and that Dumbledore would have the last laugh in the end. With that Grindelwald was able to die in a sense of peace. Knowing that his own soul was not so irreparably as Voldemort's. Grindelwald could feel love, shame, guilt. All those emotions that make one human. Grindelwald had repaired his own soul during his captivity whereas Voldemort would never do so.

[@madisonatteberry9720]

I like the first part of 'the children were the followers of Grindelwald' and perhaps, that's why Voldemort chose certain people.
I'm not all to into Harry Potter lore myself (I just watch these video's when there is no new Star Wars videos available) but am interested in the long aftermath of Voldemort's time, as well Harry's.
I imagine a future of technology that the people in the magical world fear would surpass their powers, I mean, we're already developing technology that uses light to 3-D print things, what if there was a technology that allowed someone to manipulate gravity......which now that I think of it, sounds a bit too 'Jedi' but whatever, and that springs a new Magic supremacy uprising, with the ideals driven from both Grindelwald and Voldemort.

[@andakin117]

​@@madisonatteberry9720 I really like that idea. I could see the the Magic supremacists in the wizarding world viewing advancements in technology as a threat to their way of life. possibly feeling that they are being forced into giving up their magic or that the muggles are preparing to remove magic users from the equation altogether. after all. there is no story without conflict.

[@SteveStacy135]

Title should be more powerful

[@RillaGorilla420]

Oh you think you’re smart than him?

[@SteveStacy135]

@@RillaGorilla420 smarter *

[@RillaGorilla420]

@@SteveStacy135 over your head I guess. 🤷‍♂️😂

[@HarryPotterFolklore]

Very true lol I fixed it

[@isaackim7675]

I think you’re missing a sixth reason: Grindelwald has a nose

[@daniellavarona]

LMAO

[@StareachValcin]

These are definitely fair and legitimate advantages that Grindalwald had over Voldemort. I honestly still think that Voldemort was the more powerful dark wizard.

[@anakinmidwalker4322]

it’s a fact that voldemort was stronger. stated multiple times throughout the books and voldemort’s feats are greater than grindelwalds

[@schris3]

@@anakinmidwalker4322 In magical feats absolutely, but as a magical tyrant Voldemort only took over the British Isles, Grindelwald took over all of magical Continental Europe, and he just didn't took over Britain due to Dumbledore.

[@anakinmidwalker4322]

@@schris3 it’s a duel, sure grindelwald had a massive and extensive rule, but voldemort would win in a duel

[@jerrychen4348]

it is a little unfair, since Grindalwald movie came out after HP one. The latter one is mainly base on British Isles, and thank to HP, it already arise the global attention. who would watch it if the following story is not more powerful?

[@villianbehindglasses8969]

I just have a quick question, how does a witch of wizard become a "strong" witch/wizard? To become physically strong you need to exercise. What's the equivalent of strength training in magic? Cast the same spell over and over again?

[@ArnoSchmidt22]

I think it's a matter of both raw intelligence and willpower. So someone who's both passionate and intelligent would be a good guess for a strong wizard/witch.

[@eranshachar9954]

If only power levels were a thing in the HP universe, it would have been much easier. Yes I am 100 % agree Grindelwald was stronger. I already know what people who think the opposite will say- Voldemort killed Gellert. Yes he did but only because Gellert allowed him to. Although I would say that some of Voldemort's followers, followed him out of free will and belief in him. And I am sure he had supporters from all over Europe not just the UK. But he couldn't even take over one country in his tyranny campaign. The only thing I disagree- You are saying Voldemort was not a good duelist and he was.

[@tom-nb7dk]

And how many countries did Grindelwald take over?
Also none.
By the way JK Rowling made pretty clear that Voldemort is the most powerful dark Wizard of all time. That is undeniable.
Although Grindelwald showed the flashier Magic in the movies Voldemort is still stronger in the official canon.

[@eranshachar9954]

@@tom-nb7dk But she also said that Dumbledore was the only one Voldemort feared of. Dumbledore and Grindelwald were equal in skills and power. And Voldemort was clearly not on their level. So one statement doesn't make it conclusive. I am not disrespecting what she said, just saying it's not enough. Also what I say is not enough I know. The truth is it's not really an easy answer.

[@tom-nb7dk]

@@eranshachar9954 That Voldemort fears Dumbledore doesn't mean that he is inferior, Dumbledore is just the only person who could potentially end Voldemorts whole career and life, so they are just on the same level, and that's frightening for him, cause nobody else is near to that power level during that time period.
Also Grindelwald is active on the whole Globe besides the UK, just because he wants to avoid Dumbledore, he even admits that Credence was the only who could kill Dumbledore, not even himself, which obviously wasn't the case in the end.
You say one statement isn't conclusive to prove that Voldemort is the most powerful dark wizard, but you also just picked one statement, which isn't even saying anything about his power.
Besides that it's not only one statement that I brought up, it's frequently repeated throughout the books that Voldemort is the most powerful dark wizard of all time. Like a hundred times a book.

[@schris3]

Voldemort was a good duelist, but wasn't great, in fact his dueling skills pales in comparison to Dumbledore and Grindelwald.

[@eranshachar9954]

@@schris3 Sure. But compare him to others who are not on a titan level like Dumbledore and Grindelwald and he is good. Then again he is a titan level, just a bit less than Dumbledore and Grindelwald. And had Severus Snape lived longer, he could have been a titan himself. He had the potential to be there. If only Voldemort knew what really happened with the elder wand. I sure am glad he didn't find out, that Snape fooled him.

[@tilakmistry3438]

Grindelwald is definately better, he knows more spells than Avada Kedavra🤣

[@kylelarson4154]

You should do a video of all the shops in Diagon Alley!

[@Fandom_ACFN]

3:04 “showing his loyalty to Dumbledore after so many years” … 🥲 Grindelwald still loved him. The last act of love.

[@Moxleid]

Book Grindelwald when voldemort enters nurmengard:
"Oh i smell bitch in here"

[@bgt2848]

I honestly believe American wizards were reading the daily profit with their wines and their guns just wishing Voldemort would pull his crap in America. Like honestly debating “would I spell him or would I just pull out my revolver and see if he can talk faster than I pull the trigger “

[@gioeleqr97]

But, if I'm not mistaken, it's a canon fact that Voldemort was the most powerful dark wizard of all time, and Grindelwald was second only to him. However, I think that if we want to put in a good word for Grindelwald, one could at the most say that he was as powerful as Voldemort. I think that we all agree that nobody could or would say that Grindelwald was more powerful than the Dark Lord. Grindelwald was a better man (far braver, and even more intelligent, from my point of view), but not a more powerful wizard. Voldemort was a fucking beast of the dark arts.

[@samuelhaverghast2442]

Power isn't everything.. Grindelwald still would beat Voldemort in a heartbeat, you can have all the power in the world, but if you cannot wield its full potential, with precision and control, you will lose to someone with less power, because unlike you, they have full precision and control and can bring out THEIR full potential

[@gioeleqr97]

Voldemort can wield his power to its full potential... He is totally in controll of his dark magic powers. He is the absolute master of dark magic. Rowling herself confermed that Voldemort was more powerful than Grindelwald. He pushed the boundries of magic (dark magic especially), far beyond they've ever been pushed. There are no reliable sources that say that Grindelwald was more powerful than Voldemort and that he could beat him in a duell based on (dark) magic skills. Of course there are Grindelwald's fan boys who says that, but I do not consider them as a reliable source (but just fanboys, they simply love a certain character and always speaks only in favor of him/her).

[@ladyserenegrace18]

grindelwald had far more experience with other forms of magic... hexes and curses can only do so much against a damn fireball flying at your face, I can see voldemort getting in a lucky shot with a killing curse but still grindelwald knew how to work a shield charm better. Grindelwald had more defensive skills and strategic capabilities.

[@gioeleqr97]

Btw, you should also make types of video like this: "What would Salazar Slytherin think of Voldemort ans his actions? Would he be proud or disappointed? Or a mix of the two", it would be cool 🙂

[@KD-qc6st]

Great video!

[@mrsteve4569]

I never understood this debate. It took getting Dumbledore to defeat Grindelwald, while it took some rando 18 year old kid to defeat Voldemort. Grindelwald took down multiple Aurors in one shot, while Voldemort couldn’t defeat a high school.

[@dontemoore9020]

They should have a 3 hour movie of Dumbledore vs Grindelwald. That would be better than any fantastic beasts movie

[@Swearengen1980]

That's why I was so disappointed with the last movie. The Secrets of Dumbledore had little Dumbledore....I was expecting to see him fight.

[@ShadowScoutSwede]

Thank you great video and it was also a interesting topic well done.

[@raugust7936]

I hope I get to see grindlewald fight voldemorte as grindlewald beat hIm as both b at their prime, like if somehow a movie can b made where they meet someone

[@jonwashburn7999]

I agree. Grindlewald could have been more dangerous due to his abilities to manipulate.

[@schris3]

Exactly, although Voldemort was as able to manipulate as Grindelwald, it wasn't his go to method, Voldemort by nature always preferred to control people by power and fear. He will only manipulate somebody if is the quickest way to obtain what he wants.

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

You are not strong if you need manipulation to gain power.

[@darkseeker9548]

@5:29 A dual that lasted for over three hours? Did they stop to take a lunch break or something?

[@Sthangimations]

Underrated videos dude

[@HarryPotterFolklore]

Thank you x

[@Sthangimations]

@@HarryPotterFolklore no problem

[@fleetstreet11]

Many of us would have joined Grindelwald had we not had the outside perspective of the film or book audience if we were suddenly within that universe. We come into history in medias res.

[@Samrules888]

The Virgin voldemort:
Only has 1/64 of a soul
Turned the dumbest possible objects into Horcruxes
Surrounded by traitors
Has a diary a tiara and an obsession with a teenage boy
Has weird sneak p3n0r
The CHAD grindelwald
Refuses the cost of the horcrux because it's lamesauce and could have realistically mastered the hallows
Smoking hot queenie wants his 13 inch wand but he's saving it for dumbledore
Has magic flames that burns up poseurs
Fucked the one man voldemort ever feared.
Called voldemort a batch to his face
Actually has a soul

[@paulgraf5746]

In my opinion Voldemort is the better 1v1 duelist. First of all he never possessed the elder wand while Dumbledore did in their duel. Grindelwald was beaten by a no elder wand wielding Dumbledore while he himself had it. I also don’t agree with the idea that a younger wizard is a better duelist just because he is more energetic. In the magical world surely knowledge and experience play a much bigger role than age and physical condition, which can be boosted by magic anyways. So because of that I believe Dumbledore is much stronger in his duel against Voldemort than against Grindelwald. I do agree with the other 4 points tho. Grindelwald is more dangerous because he is more manipulative and convincing, but as an individual Voldemort is more powerful and has much more knowledge on the dark side at least. His only problem was that he couldn’t understand the light side properly

[@johnnystorm7390]

Grindlewald’s ability to tell the future was goated

[@MitchMitchellStories]

Good job; I can't debate a single thing you shared.

[@bellaknightR597]

I just wanna say that I love that you used Johnny Depp's Grindelwald in the thumbnail

[@di3486]

I love you used Johnny’s Grindelwald 😉😉

[@yitziyyb]

Totally agree!
Not even a question

[@yitziyyb]

Also, he's way more calculated and would never make the same mistakes as Voldemort

[@jamesmiller7941]

You should make a video on how the vanishing cabinet works and how Draco mended it.

[@AtomicDudMan]

Something that gives me chills us when Harry drops from Hagrids arms. Harry didn’t only survive the killing curse once, but twice. (From background footage displayed)

[@tigerz8174]

I 💯 agree

[@samuraib0b]

I like the fact you used Jhonny in the thumbnail

[@Hello77444]

Also grindelwald had “control” of a obscurus (however you spell it) and he wasn’t no joke either whereas all of Voldemort’s followers were just death eaters. Where the line was between psychopathic like Bellatrix or fearful like pettigrew.

[@alexdiaz4550]

I think it’s a huge letdown that No brings up how Voldemort main argument as the greatest wizard comes from mainly his reach to new magic like horcruxes. His main theme is “I pushed the boundaries of magic” this is huge in any vs argument as the Voldemort’s only enemy would ever be himself and a prophecy.
Grindlevald’s enemies were always other ppl, and yea dumbledore is amazing, but his power wasn’t gonna be the thing to kill Voldemort, which is why everyone was banking on the mystery and hunches to figure out a way to kill him. Vs grindlevald who could have been taken down by sheer power like he did

[@paulcowlishaw]

R.I.P Lord Voldermort and Grindelwald. You'll both be missed.

[@boydragon2376]

For me it’s like this
Power in two ways:power as in magic and power as in control over regions
Power for control:Grindelwald,he literally had nearly all of Europe by the time he was defeated
Power for magic:Voldy, he did a lot of extremely difficult spells and for me I think he was more powerful in magic for the two
I could be wrong for power of magic tho
And I think we all know that voldy is more evil and dark hearted of the two

[@starsaber9631]

Seeing as the time line for the secrets of Dumbledore is set during world war 2 if I was making the fantastic beast series I would make it that grinderwald used the imperious curse on Hitler to have the humans kill and weaken themselves before he attacked with his follow-up were but as we know he was stopped by Dumbledore in 1945

[@topdawg3359]

Good channel

[@Hailey_Robinson33]

4 is now ADVERTISEMENT!
lol I got an ad a few seconds HPF said number 4

[@patrydicha6226]

Loved it and totally agree!

[@NAD-gi6fg]

Voldemort was more powerful, but Grindelwald was more skilled and knowledgeable.

[@ryanraymer4411]

If Voldemort was more powerful than Grindelwald, which I don’t think that he was, then he was a dumbass with that power. Constantly outsmarted and beaten by children 🤣

[@Youtubeman00]

Mr G is the best!! Just look how Mr G and Albus is dueling vs how Voldermort are dueling Albus.

[@sobekapep8320]

Voldemort is more powerful both according to the WOG, many MANY statements from various characters(Including Dumbledore, who defeated Grindelwald in his youth) and performance against Dumbledore.
For reference, Grindelwald was on par with Dumbledore WITHOUT the Elder Wand, Voldemort was on par with Dumbledore WITH the Elder Wand. Even if we were to assume Dumbledore became weaker with age, Elder Wand should be enough to make old Dumbledore at least equal to young Dumbledore without the Wand.
In other words, Grindelwald needed the Elder Wand to equal a likely weaker Dumbledore while Voldemort didn't need anything to equal a stronger Dumbledore.

[@anakinmidwalker4322]

it’s a misconception that dumbledore becomes weaker with age, if anything he becomes stronger, while he gets older he expands his knowledge hugely and he’s still in pratice with magic which means he’s still getting stronger. it’s not like he’s never doing magic and then he went to fight voldemort, he was defintley in lratice

[@ssniper-mb7js]

@@anakinmidwalker4322 with age comes wisdom which is why every minute he lives makes him stronger.

[@sobekapep8320]

@@anakinmidwalker4322 Most likely. Which actually makes things even WORSE for Grindelwald. He fought on par with and eventually lost to a Dumbledore WITHOUT the Elder Wand, Voldemort fought on par with and nearly killed multiple times a Dumbledore WITH the Elder Wand, who gained much more experience and wisdom over the decades from when he fought Grindelwald. It isn't even a competition at this rate.

[@anmolbhat6386]

@@sobekapep8320 Dumbeldore's only goal was to protect harry that time and nothing else he neither duelled to his fullest level nor had any intent to kill and was constantly checking harry without putting much thought to the actual duel. Whereas Voldemort was fighting to kill Dumbledore. But while fighting Grindelwald, dumbledore gave everything he had and was duelling with the intent to kill.

[@sobekapep8320]

@@anmolbhat6386 Even without that, we have both WOG and in universe statements that Voldemort was stronger than Grindelwald. Some of it coming from Dumbledore's mouth, you know, the guy that fought and beat Grindelwald.
Also, even if we assume Dumbledore wasn't "giving it his all" Voldemort actually had the upper hand in the fight, one time Fawkes had to save Dumbledore from an AK. So, they should roughly be comparable no matter how you spin it.

[@konradglowacki3829]

Przeciez Voldemor oprocz jego najlepszej walki z Dumberdolem w ministerwstwie odbyl rowniez szereg innych np. z Potterrem co najmniej kilka pojedynkow wszystkie zremisowal badz przegral. - no ta bene z Potterem przegral dwa razy raz jak Potter byl niemowlakiem. A jego ostatnia walka z Potterem ktora ostatecznie przegral byl na tym samym poziomie co Potter. Z dyspozycja jaka mial podczas swojej ostatniej walki kiedy horkluks w postaci Pottera juz nie zyl nie wygralby nawet ze Snapem nie mowiac juz o Grindewaldzie.

[@-AxisA-]

Video idea, which I found only one video done on: Why did Voldemort need the Philosophers Stone?

[@the_swordman1]

I remember being something about making the elixir of life and/or creating a new body for him.

[@michellepinnick5622]

Grindelwald also knew love witch Voldermort didn't have.

[@erikagholston6610]

I agree with you.

[@carlrood4457]

It comes to different definitions of power. If talking pure magical ability unaided by outside sources (i.e. the Elder Wand), then it's probably Voldemort. When talking about organization, leadership, and strategy then it Grindelwald.

[@TheFlash-vb9bj]

I agree that Grindelwald is more powerful than Voldemort. Voldemort was more rush in attack where as Grindelwald was think before acting.

[@59rlmccormack]

Well, in all honesty, they were both intimidating and scary and we all know what they’re capable of. With Voldemort, he proved how scarier he was than Grindlewald since, before the start of the series and near the end of the series, the Dark Lord was close to victory before his two defeats at the hands of Harry. Yeah, don’t mess with either of them.

[@JewTubeSux]

Voldemort was weak because of his fear and closed-mindedness...

[@trillionaire8886]

It’s cuz grindelewald was 🌈 his diversity made him stronger As well as stunning & brave.

[@spencerthefrankenstein8291]

Why didn't the other ministries of magic help Britain out with Voldemort?

[@ryandavis8658]

Why wasn’t Dumbeldore able to defeat Voldemort at the end of Order of the Phoenix? I guess over time he would have? Or was it something to do with the Horcruxes?

[@diegobeusekamp3887]

Grindelwald BY FARRRRR!!!!!! No contest. He had the whole world in his pocket why voldi cant even hold a school of children under controle. Yes he was scary because he will end you without thinking twice. Grindelwald on the other hand was controled, calculated, and NOTHING he did was without reason or plan behind it. The manipulation of aurelius is a great example. The bloodpact is another he KNEW dumbledore was the only one who can and WILL stop him.

[@sifilore9462]

Good evaluation. Voldemort was full of himself of terms of power 🪄, whereas Grindelwald was of character.

[@jkrause365]

Very interesting. But this raises a somewhat tangential, albeit relevant question. What gives a witch or wizard power? It seems to me that after watching this video, it's all book learning; rote memorization of textbook spells, charms, hexes, and curses. All a witch or wizard need do is study closely "The Standard Book of Spells" by Miranda Goshawk, and "Magical Theory" by Adalbert Waffling while at school, commit as much as one can to memory, and presto! Here's another powerful wizard. Easily done. Apparently that's how Hermione Granger did it. Good video, by the way.

[@deeneydeeney7219]

1:20 Johnny Depp would have played such an amazing grindelwald

[@arnavkaple3140]

Why not make a video about if Grindelwald beat Dumbledore in 1945 and what happens in the Harry Potter timeline in the 1990s.

[@ActiveAdvocate1]

No spoilers, my thoughts in five words or less.
5. Exactly.
4. No reason to.
3. Wizard Hitler, so yeah.
2. Yep. Full stop.
1. More than five words on this on, but the guy could think with his brain, not just with his fear. Voldemort never thought his way beyond fear, unfortunately.

[@princejulio]

I think Voldermort is more powerful when it comes to abilities and raw power he is the stronger one. But Grindelwald is also there but he also has the ability to think and strategy. Voldemort’s raw power is powerful but his strategy is more join me or die or collaborate with me and die. And he just kills everyone. But Grindelwald think and he is also capable of love and love is the most powerful magic

[@tyranidswarmlord9722]

Peak Grindie vs Peak Tom would win the 1v1.
But sadly after that Tom can outlast him, Horcruxes alone are no joke. The Horcrux defenses much much more insane, even if Grindie can find them with his Seer hax.
Snape did land the killing blow, but Dumbledore was dead anyway due to the atrociously overpowered curse on Marvolo's ring.
Tom can just come back for another round when Grindie is dying due to old age.
Even if Grindie gets a big buff by nicking the Philoshopher's stone for the Elixir of Life, he'll still age just much much slower, eventually to a point in time where Tom can win the round 2.

[@FatRonaldo1]

1:10 interesting how Voldemort feared Dumbledore because he knew secrets from his past, while Dumbledore feared Grindlewald for the same reason

[@headstrongbachelor3152]

Grindelwald also feared Dumbledore. He never touched Great Britain because of that.

[@ruiarruda9188]

I must say that is all completely true. there really is no arguement that could debate this. Even if voldemort was a little more powerful grindelwald was way smarter and cunning. voldemort would always lose.

[@georgiosrinakakis934]

Before watching the video: Grindelwald had a nose :P
After watching the video: Totally agree

[@calob3927]

Weren’t grindelwald and dumbledore the only two wizards able to cast the flaming dragon spell. Only grindelwalds both protected him and attacked at the same time.

[@Jean.P.Cartier]

Throwing everything but a kitchen sink, kudos for that 😂😂😂

[@ernestomoreno4409]

The number 1 reason is also the main one for me. It’s a natural fear but he was taken by it.

[@theentity5201]

I wonder if grindelwald wouldve humilated Voldemort maybe turning him into a coin, that's feels like such a painful upset. I hope Voldemort comes out on top, he's funny in some aspects

[@mikeseibert4889]

I never read the book but when I found out in the book he didn't tell Voldemort where the elder wand was it pissed me off that in the movie he told Voldemort where the elder wand was that is so stupid and no reason for it really pissed me off

[@hughgpauwels]

Grindelwald is more relatable as a person, making him more dangerous than Voldemort- he attracted some good natured witches and wizards like Queenie. His movement was global whereas the events of the Harry Potter universe largely take place in the UK, and aren't really focused too much outside of that. I think Voldemort is the stereotypical villain we know- he's more evil on principle and therefore easier to predict. Grindelwald is not- he's less evil on principle and more pragmatic- making him the devil we don't know. Sure Voldemort had foreigners on his side but the lack of foreign ministries getting involved in the wizarding wars of the later 20th century really speaks volumes as to who the more dangerous wizard was. In terms of talent and skill maybe Voldemort was more powerful but Grindelwald was far better at getting other people to work for him, and that's why he had such a massive coalition on his side that went across borders.
So, verdict- Grindelwald is better because he's a better leader. He's better at getting people to work together and with him to achieve his aims. No man is an island, and Voldemort sometimes gives off that vibe. When I watch Fantastic Beasts Grindelwald comes off as extremely relatable. Voldemort doesn't.
A lot of people rank Voldemort ahead of Grindelwald for his pushing of the dark arts to their threshold at the time, and for the correct perception that the dark arts are the most powerful form of magic. The fact is that Grindelwald was more well-rounded as a wizard- he may have not been as pushy into the realm of the dark arts but he was more well-rounded overall, and that shows in the fact that he produced a Patronus, despite being non-corporeal, whilst Voldemort had none, showing that Gellert had a greater command of a wider variety of magic, kind of similar to Dumbledore, who we know had knowledge of the dark arts as well, as we see with the many books in his study on dark magic.
It comes down to this: could Harry have beaten Grindelwald? He was able to defeat Voldemort, but with all the magic Grindelwald had at his disposal and his mastery of the elder wand, I don't think Harry could have had a prayer in beating him in his prime, let alone a tangible chance. Voldemort's arrogance was his big downfall. Grindelwald was far less arrogant and was largely in touch with reality. I think this argument alone is why I think Grindelwald wouldn't have played with his food like Voldemort tried to do with Harry. Food can poison you if you let it fester out for too long, and that's exactly what happened to Voldemort. He poisoned himself with arrogance and overconfidence and not taking his enemy seriously enough.
Plus Grindelwald clearly didn't fear Dumbledore. Voldemort did. Tells you everything you need to know there.

[@masteroftheassassins]

One reason I believe Grindlewald was stronger than Voldemort was because he wasn’t afraid of dying.

[@thosechocolatebrowneyes]

Man if Grindy was Voldy the series would end after the first book 🤣

[@user-br3nn5ys9m]

Grindelwald is a realistic villain while voldemort is fiction from start to the end

[@RobertJones-ux6nc]

When Voldermort faced Grinderwald, he was in custody and could not defend himself. If he could it might have turned out differently between them. But like always Voldermort had to have some kind of advantage and take on an easy opponent. If they were evenly matched I think the outcome would have been the same but Voldermort would have been severely injured by several curses and had to disappeared so he could heal himself from the battle.

[@davidcopeland5450]

I wouldn’t necessarily say Grindelwald is the more powerful dark wizard, but rather that he was the more dangerous of the two simply because of his more persuasive and manipulative nature in being able to bring greater amounts of supporters to his side and his reach and terrorization among wizarding and muggle communities across the world, among the other reasons you listed. And, as we saw in Secrets of Dumbledore, he was able to infiltrate and take over the German Ministry of Magic and nearly stole the election for Supreme Mugwump, and I wouldn’t be surprised if by the time of his legendary 1945 duel with Dumbledore he had control of numerous other ministries of magic around the globe. Even if Voldemort even managed to defeat Harry Potter and his allies in the Second Wizarding War, I think he would’ve had a tougher time attempting to expand and successfully conquer magical communities outside the UK for two reasons. First, he never was personally all that invested in politics, and probably would’ve put puppets in positions of power instead of directly ruling himself, which would’ve made his position as a ruler weaker and more susceptible to strong and defiant opposition. Secondly, considering the Sacred 28 and its supporters of Voldemort by the time he came to power were exclusively located in the the UK, particularly after what happened following the Global Wizarding War with Grindelwald, I’m not so sure that Voldemort would’ve enjoyed the same level of support from whatever exclusively pureblood families that would’ve been left in other countries across the world (probably less in number in just about every other country to begin with), particularly those who may have been in positions of power that would’ve made it all the more easier for Voldemort and his Death Eaters to launch coup after coup in taking over ministries of magic across the world one by one.

[@MasterOfTheElements]

I think Dumbledore's firestorm in half blood prince is the second most powerful magic we've seen in the movies.

[@trent_king]

I think I'm the title you meant Grindlewald was *MORE* powerful than..

[@XJ0461C]

Gellert always was more powerful. The false notion that the inverse was true came from a line of the absolutely unreliable Rita Skeeter, and a line completely misunderstood by many, many readers at that. She claimed that Gellert would sit at the top of a hypothetical list of "Most Dangerous Dark Wizards of All Time" before Tom took the spot.
First of all, as previously stated, this is the opinion of Rita Skeeter of all people, not a factual account by a reputable source. Second, there are key words used here to pay attention to. Most "dangerous" is not at all the same as most "powerful", obviously Tom was far more impulsive and unhinged. He gave up his good looks and charm in favor of ruling by fear and threat of violence, most of his servants in truth hating him.
Gellert on the other hand was far more organised, charismatic, and capable of genuinely winning over almost anyone to his side, not just the inbred racists although they were a useful, malleable tool for him. So great was his allure that he could openly say he did not hate or intend to wipe out Muggles even knowing this was exactly what many of his supporters wanted and they still followed him. In contrast, Tom was so insecure that he had to hide the fact that he was half-blood and not "pureblood" so that even Bellatrix wouldn't stop obsessing over him.
Tom almost certainly knew more about Dark Magic than anyone else, having pushed that area of study and practice to its limits and beyond. No one denies that. And yet did this distinction help him see Severus's betrayal? Did it help him see the outcome of Lily's sacrifice? Did it help him learn the Elder Wand's location from Gellert himself, even reduced to an old, weary, tired, beaten, imprisoned, wandless state completely at his mercy? No. No. No. Being the best at Dark Magic does not make you the best at Occulemency, a Seer, or the strongest Wizard in general anymore than being the smartest mathematician makes you the fittest swimmer.
Gellert was Albus's equal. He had a vastly greater knowledge and understanding of Magic than Tom ever bothered trying to learn, nevermind skill. He knew Love, the most powerful Magic there is, whereas Tom did not comprehend this even in the most basic sense. He limited himself, focusing only on what he wanted. Gellert shared some of his narcissistic traits to a degree, but he never wanted to rule alone. He always wanted someone at his side and sincerely felt remorse for all the pain he had caused when he was beaten. He could have remained bitter and defiant in his cell until Death but instead mended his split soul.
That is why he laughed in Tom's face. That is why he never even entertained the thought of betraying Albus even in Death. That is why Gellert is better and more powerful than the ridiculously overrated Tom. And that is also why the writing in The Secrets of Dumbledore particularly frustrates me. Because more and more does Gellert seem to be turning into Tom 2.0 instead of a fresh character...

[@JeremyWS]

Dumbledore constantly called Voldemort "Tom" just to anger him. And not cuz it was his name.

[@brennanrodriguez1566]

Grindelwald did have the Elder Wand against Dumbledore, where as Voldemort did not and at the time of their duel Dumbledore did have the wand. Not saying it’s a super disadvantage for Voldemort but it was one sided a bit with that in mind.

[@mitchaaron888]

You sound mighty familiar to a football youtuber 🤔