Well he is getting a divorce and it seems the wives are all the social media front. So publicly the wives are going to get blame. All these people put their toes into waters that they weren't ready to swim in.
Can i like ask u when do the men escape all accountability? its a proven fact that menhoes will have it worse than womenhoes... Oh better yet u dont have to do nothin litaraly n were blamed for it...
My Christian mom wouldn’t let me go to any sleep overs, bible studies or Christian camps cuz she knew what be goin on. She really said praise the lord but trust no bitch 😂
Right? For me it also throws me off that this is the example people have to go off of for what Mormons are like. I left the church as well but misrepresentation still bothers me for some reason. Despite my reasons for leaving, i still feel compassion for my loved ones that are part of the church. I dont want them to be seen like this because of these tiktokers example. Also, I love your MollyMauke prof pic.
@@ferntella honey, do you think your loved ones are seen as anything other than bigots anyway? At least the Mormon mom's made them relatable to those not in the church. They were doing you a favour.
@@ferntella To be honest, this kind of misrepresentation is better than the truth. When people find out all the dirty secrets of the religion, this kind of exposure is nothing.
I read one of them having OF 😂 and I just like wtf. I think they're just want the image and milking it, but don't give af about the faith at all. Calling adultery as 'soft swinging'. Hypocrites. They reap what they sow.
There’s so much hidden drama going on in church communities. As someone who was raised in one, it’s weird because everything is coated in this “perfect happiness” and no one ever brings shit up. But behind the scenes, there’s some real tea going on. You know like the one girl who stopped showing up on sundays but comes back pregnant or with a baby. One time in my church, this “nice” couple silently split up and the woman just started showing up with a much older dude; the ex was also found to have been a serial cheat throughout their relationship. Or this one time the super religious pastor was caught or confessed to going to strip clubs. It’s wild. And in person, everyone just acts like nothing’s wrong. But in private, they’re all talking.
the church acts like a place of honesty and forgiveness but the community surrounding it is always judgmental and gossipy, this leads to this weird two faced culture in almost every religious circle, kind of defeating the whole point of it tbh.
@@cocothedino_2901 Exactly! That’s the worst part. I heard stories like these from my parents and other women. I’m just there being silent or trying to direct the conversation elsewhere. The amount of times I’ve silently thought “wow aren’t you supposed to be a Christian?” about someone who was clearly being mean was far too often. We had women disliking other women all like “I’ll just leave them in god’s hands.” Bro what do you meannn 😭😭
@@REChronic54 "I'll just leave them in gods hands" is precisely the kind of snarky back handed compliment I've come to expect from most church aunties lolol 🥴 girl???
I'm a married mom of 3 littles and can't ever relate to these perfect mommy influencers. I'm perfectly fine being dysfunctional bc shit happens. these are like the popular mean girls in highschool and in your college dorm. you can't stand them bc they make you feel inferior by their fake perfection.
Helen, I’m a married mom of 3 girls too and I can’t relate to them either and I am actually a member of the Mormon faith. It’s incredibly disheartening to see them use the religion for clout.
Out of interest, is drinking alcohol also "forbidden"? What could happen to them all now that this has gone public? Can they be kicked from the "church" (apologies if its not a church 🖤) because of the bombshells being dropped? Also in "dummy/laymens terms" what if anything, could they be punished for, Or would be frowned upon simply based on what has been revealed so publicly that goes against the rules of being Mormons? 🖤🖤
Lol right..just like in highschool all the mean girls talking crap about each other and hooking up with their "bffs" boyfriends behind their back and acting like they love each other meanwhile constantly trying to outdo and bring each other down lmao
I’m not married nor a mom. But I watched my parents raise 3 kids and it was never anywhere near what these women would portray. Their lives are only perfect for the duration of those videos lol. I always felt “famous” couples who are famous for being a couple often have the most problems and skeletons in their closet
Come to “probably not gonna be voted mom of the year-tok” where we have no limits on screen time and occasionally have candy for breakfast and curse in front of our kids and refuse to play baby shark in the car but will however will play “f** the 👮♀️” by NWA and we put ice in our wine and spend more time in mismatched pajamas (that are not cute) instead of real clothes. If your “no makeup & cute messy bun” looks more like Miss Trunchbull than a Kardashian you might be eligible to be our next president which just means that we will be having bbq’s at your house this week but I’ll bring our XL tarp and baby soap and we can call it a slip n slide. They’ll never know. See y’all on Saturday bitches 😘😘😘
I'm an ex mormon. This stuff would not be tolerated: swinging, homosexuality, drinking, and clothing choices. In order to participate in temple services you can't be doing any of these things. I suppose they could go to church still, but I find it weird that they consider themselves mormon seeing as mormons don't do any of those things (openly, i suppose they could try and hide it. They view it as a sin though). This is so strange.
I think they know there is a market with the moms that subscribed to this content and hold people who look and act like the mormon moms on a pedestal. These people latched onto this as a money grab, even though they don't necessarily subscribe to these ideals and morals.
I wonder how long they've been in the church or if they _did_ jump on some sort of money train that required church attendance. nothing about these families could be defined as Mormon, the seem to be pretty oblivious to the teachings
The clothing really struck me as not mormon. Ik a lot of mormons dont wear garmets but ... idk what is actually mormon about these people at all. They probably just want to believe they get their own planets when they die and they can invite each other to their planets to make out
Okay so I live in Utah but I’m not Mormon. That said, the weird soft swinging thing in the LDS community isn’t uncommon. The same situation happened a couple years back with a few couples that lived on our street. It was all hush hush until a few caught feelings and one wound up banging on another couple’s door drunk crying and confessing caught feelings. Cops had to be called. Needless to say there were a few divorces and eventually they all moved.
That sounds super out of the norm from Mormons. Lol. Affairs are normally pretty basic and boring. Coming from someone who was mormon for 2 decades and has pioneer ancestry lol
I had a mormon neighbor that bragged about stealing from Walmart. Her and her husband later divorced because she would have random guys come over and have sex. Mormons are the most immoral corrupt people on the planet.
@@plamondonworks6948 another ex Mormon here😅 but I'm from Germany maybe German Mormons are not acting that crazy but your recollection sound way more familiar to me than the other recount.. Also I'm confused... If they are all married practicing Mormons why do they dress so revealing or drink at least the way I grew up that was a no no as Mormon 😅
@@plamondonworks6948 I’ve had affairs when I was in highschool. Affairs are never worth it, and just hormonal impulses. They usually always ruin your life. You end up alone every time.
Seeing these fully grown women treating each other like they're in a clique in highschool is really making me hear "Highschool Never Ends" by Bowling for Soup right now.
I love this song so much. It was speaking the eternal life-long truth. Some things change, but so much stays the same. No matter where or how it shows up, high school really doesn't end. It just becomes "grown up".
Me, an exmormon watching this knowing I could’ve been having a feral girl summer instead of gaslighting and berating myself for drinking earl grey tea: 😒
@@jettsetgirl haha hi! Not so much feral girl but definitely not berating myself 😂 I drink coffee every morning and I love my Earl grey 😌 I have had a few alcoholic drinks but honestly it's just for the occasion. Not really a fan of how it makes me feel. It's okay but i don't think I'm a drink every night type of girl. I will try new things tho when they come my way so I've definitely figured out what I like and don't like. Overall, I'm much happier and I don't feel any shame at all for drinking tea lol so that's a plus 😊
usually anyone in the church community who are publicly trying to be churchgoing and "good" usually wind up being the ones who do the worst things. I remember many instances being young.. we all knew the wildest girls were from the church schools, we knew women from bible schools who would pick up the high school football players to party at their house, and lots of other things. I remember one hot woman who would often pick up teenagers to help her in her community garden, would take them to those crazy church revivals where everyone would dance and do silly stuff, and then would turn around because she liked having sex with teenagers which is why she did all that stuff. As teen boys, we were perfectly fine with a crazy hot woman picking us up lol. Not legal of course, but we are guys, we don't worry about a hot woman taking advantage of us, that is awesome!
Oh god, this hits too close to home. I was raised in this madness and Mormons can get really wack, real fast. Don’t get me wrong, there are good people here and there, but the whole organization and the leadership is abysmal. The history of this church is pretty insane, violent, and full of gaslighting.
So true!! I highly recommend watching under the banner of heaven if you haven't already, it's a bit triggering but also very validating, particularly episode 6. Andrew Garfield does an amazing job
Why do they actively promote a religion that condemns the morals governing their lives and behavior? Seems like you’d quietly stay away from the church, knowing it would never support or endorse who you really are…guess these types don’t really feel shame?
Damn, I'm polyamorous and I've never seen anything this wild in my life lmao. They should have just all stated they had feelings for each other and started a commune
@@skittles5113 just remind yourself feelings of anxiety, and jealousy, and other feelings are completely natural and you can give space to those thoughts and feelings without letting them keep you from enjoying yourself! Also my best advice is be open and honest in communicating with people.
I think you are a 100% right about the husband's encouraging their wives to explore any Borderline bisexuality. The whole power stuff between males and females and mormonism is some of the deepest stuff
This comes down to something very profound I recently heard: "If people hate you because of Jesus, that's ok. If people hate Jesus because of you, that's a problem." I am just...simply Christian myself, don't really ascribe to any particular denomination but have had experiences in life I can't chalk up to Anyone else but God. That aside, what these people do...it makes me shake my head, what a way to set a terrible example.
It’s so funny that Camille and her husband didn’t get invited to swing bc they’re “too much drama” 🤣🤣 like damn what did they do to not be worthy of the fun times you know? I guess it’s kind of good bc they’re like cleared of the wildness
Soft swinging isn't real. It doesn't matter if your partner is present or not for any encounters, consent is what matters. You're either swinging (consent) or cheating (non-consenting), and she cheated.
@@salmaabdullahgb I definitely get what you're saying, but I would consider that to be boundaries within their swinging agreement. Just as monogamous couples may have boundaries on what types of acts/play are acceptable with each other. Whether you can do this or that with another person's partner is still swinging.
as of April 10th 2023 she was arrested for a domestic violence dispute. she apparently got into an argument with her ex and threw a chair at him but it ended up hitting her 5 year old daughter. didn’t really see that coming after this video came out awhile ago lmfao
Mormon here. Drinking alcohol is against the rules, no matter where you are, lol. We're definitely not supposed to screw or kiss people besides our own spouses, even if there's consent all around. And there's also the clothing/modesty standards that clearly went out the window. This whole situation is super weird to me. Like... none of us are perfect, but are these people even trying to be Mormons? Which part of the religion do they believe in?? Do they get drunk and hook up with each other before or after their nightly scripture study?? I will say that the concept of Mormon moms pretending everything in their life is 100% pristine and perfect is pretty standard, especially for Utah/Idaho. Everyone wants to show off how righteous they are, how clean their house is, how much their husband loves them, how smart and sweet their kids are... it's exhausting.
I’m glad to see another lds person address this. I think there’s a huge problem with people claiming to be faithful, kind and charitable people while doing horrible things on the side that do not fall in line with our beliefs. Thank you for your thoughts!
I agree. I totally understand that everyone has their own challenges, and I have close friends in lots of different situations...but there's a point where you're really not living any of the "mormon" lifestyle or standards that make us who we are; the way that we live and believe that classifies us as Christians and members of the church of Jesus Christ. This seems very far off.. I'm sad to see that this is a public and private representation of my religion..
It's like this for all religions. People pick and choose what to follow and what's "not to be taken literally". Why do you all pretend your cult is a good thing. As the generations go forward religion becomes less important. They are fairytales.
So their husbands chose for them to do this…? Is this true or are y’all trynna find others to blame because y’all don’t think women can want to be with other women by choice if they’re married
@@iMsOiNsO Nah people think that because these men didn't do things with eachother but did things with the wifes AND agreed for the wifes to do each other. So it looks like they are the masterminds. But ps I think these women were just....weird and I don't have any opinion on men cos I haven't heard anything about them
@@iMsOiNsO the men literally only agreed to it because they fetishized lesbians and wanted the women to be together. Lol. ALL of them are at fault here. I just feel bad for the kids
These moms radiate my “Christian” fake friends in my school- I have attacked by all but one who is my only friend because some my beliefs are “unChristian” even though I have plenty of verses and personal convictions for those beliefs. I truly feel terrible for the woman she had to take all the blame when it wasn’t only her…
If they are Christians than they’re probably not living as one. Or they go to church but they’re not Christian. I’ve met actual Christians and they’re the most loyal people I’ve ever met. And I’ve met both “Christians”.
@@peanut4664 I myself am Christian this is more about the ways people use religion to protect their shitty behaviors even though as I said later on can easily be disproven.
As someone who grew up mormon in the mormon capitol of the world, people really do be having drama like this every single day. This just so happens to be online and for the world to see. Even in my own neighborhood growing up, I watched multiple couples get torn apart by this kind of stuff. But instead of the main platform being online, it was all just gossip and then somebody going up onto the podium on Sundays and saying "hey, remember cheating is bad." and it getting swept under the rug to repeat again. Loved the video! I'm glad I'm not the only one who wants to know the ins and outs of this kind of stuff when it happens haha!
I’m technically a Mormon, I don’t really keep to the rules anymore other than abstinence so I don’t care if other members don’t follow the rules to a tee. But I do hate when those same members try to make themselves look like the most perfect people on social media and they use the fact that they’re part of a religion to help sell that image.
I'm not a Mormon but I have an uncle like that who thinks he's "holier than thou". On Social media he's God loving man but behind the scenes terrible terrible person.
@@bonniea.1941 I’m technically a Mormon because I follow some of their rules and I grew up in it. Doesn’t mean I still practice it and go to church😂 I’m aware of the similarities
@@egg6144 I’m still an on the books Mormon too. I never officially quit because I didn’t want to upset my parents. But I was in denial about how bad it was, and how much it effected me for a long time. Sorry to butt into your business. 😕 I’m a recovering codependent so worrying about strangers on the internet happens from time to time. 😂🤷🏻♀️
Man I have to be honest.. What completely baffles me in a situation like this is.. Everyone is with everyone doing the nasty, and they don't expect any drama to come from that? Just how dumb are these people?
Men drama is interesting, I watched an entire male friend group explode purely because one of them made a play the others didn’t like in magic the gathering. Split up the house for months and two people got kicked fully out of the group.
How this comment went so under the radar for two years is beyond me, but wow that just made me smile for some reason. I hope they made up. I’d love a “Where are they now”
Does she not realize that there can be cheating within swinging/polyamory? Also if the other people are follows the set boundaries how are they also in the wrong .-.
@@freemara3429 it sounds like they had a set of rules they all agreed too. She however broke a rule? Idk it's all really weird and confusing, either commit to a open relationship or don't why do they need to make so many hurdles.
@Water Bottle I don't think she was victimizing, I think she was pointing out the hypocrisy because she was the only one getting "cancelled" for it. They essentially picked someone to pin it on so everyone else didn't have to own up.
Oh yeah, as an ex-mormon, mental gymnastics is right on the money. That's what it takes to have faith in anything involving that religion. Plenty of practice with manipulation as well
Is that what made u leave the mormon faith? No hate, but something abt the mormon faith has always seemed 'off' to me. I hope things are going well for you now.😊🙏🏻♥
@@TeddyLovesAxl honestly, the Mormon church I thought I knew was just the tip of the iceberg. There's so much they lie about, horrible massacres and twisted betrayals that they try to erase, gaslighting, misogyny, brainwashing, masonic rituals. It gets really wack the further you look into it. Eventually I realized I had to choose between living an authentic life or continuing to push my doubts and write off the truth I discovered in order to preserve my sense of self. It's been a rough journey uprooting all the little seeds they planted in my head but I'm doing so much better now and it was so worth it.
@@TeddyLovesAxl I can’t speak for the commenter. But ex-Mormon here. Yes the toxicity/manipulation of the Mormon community contributed to me leaving, but it’s much more than that. WHAT made me leave is learning about the bite model and realizing how high the Mormon church falls on it (and you’d need to look this up to follow what I’m about to use as an example). For the behavior part of it, the Mormon church does check 1-5, 7-13, sort of 17 because corporal punishment was encouraged by my bishop to my parents when I was questioning things, 18, 23 and 24(there are stories of pregnant teenagers in the Mormon church being sent to camps to give birth, sometimes against their will). For information control they check 1-6, some of the subcategories aren’t checked but very few. And even then it’s depending on the individuals local church. So they check EVERYTHING for information control. Thought control, they check every box. No questions asked. Anybody who says otherwise is so indoctrinated they can’t even realize it. Emotional control, they check everything as well, minus 1 subcategory. Which is “threats of harm to ex-member and family”. But I feel like that’s dependent on a persons family. Of course the bite model is more than just falling into the boxes and saying “yes this happens”, there’s a rating system as well. But despite that, even when I went through the rating system for it, Mormonism was still pretty high. Basically what I’m saying is that, I broke free from the Mormon indoctrination and their cult mentality. When my eyes were open I saw how corrupt the Mormon church is. How evil they truly are. Anybody who says otherwise is an idiot. And when they tell me otherwise I remind them of the general conference (huge thing in the Mormon community. Like the youth are given homework for it and everything) where a church leader testified that he resurrected a gnat…. Yes a gnat. Only a cult would do that. Edit. Also adding in 14, 21, and 25 under behavior control. Because there’s some dark history in the church with gay people, and some assassinations during Brigham young’s era.
This is precisely why I have NEVER been a part of “mom culture.” No groups, no play dates, nada. (Don’t worry, my daughter has always been surrounded by people and hasn’t suffered for it in any way. Most social kiddo I know.) Just because I had a kid, doesn’t mean I’m going to like other women who did too. Mom groups of all kinds are breeding grounds for drama. Also, they ALWAYS end in an MLM pitch. No thanks, boss moms. 🤷🏼♀️😘
@@omowhanre you are objectively incorrect. I probably triggered a response of that nature because you love your MLM. Perhaps it might be a person in your life making you feel the need to defend? I bet you have a hard time watching other moms who have boundaries in place to prevent toxic people like you from poisoning their motherhood experience. No parent needs the immense pressure of high school bullies comparing other moms based upon how many kids they have. Now this is where the ignorance truly begins. The very issue that I’ve expressed my opinion on, was attempted to be rebutted by the exact actions I’m against, that you have taken. You played your role perfectly, showing the perfect example of why I don’t participate in “mom culture.” Moms like you are the reason I feel this way. Stop projecting and really take stock of your feelings. Are you having them because you feel called out? Do you participate in the toxicity that ruins play dates? Maybe it circles back to your feelings about MLMs? Do some heavy introspection and come back in a month to see if my comment is really that awful, really that triggering. Realize that healthy decisions and behavior will feel uncomfortable if you don’t recognize them as such. You also can’t control the way anyone else thinks or feels. You can only control yourself. With that said, I truly hope you can find peace through therapy. It’s ok to not understand how to properly express yourself if you have never had the tools to do so. You will be a much happier person if you don’t depend on other people to feel fulfilled as a mother. Remember to do things for you because that could be the very thing you’re missing now that you have children. We all had a life before kids and reconnecting with your former self will remind you of how you once dealt with other women. maybe you won’t be so judgmental about the opinions and choices of other moms. I’m coming from a place of being the healthiest mom I can be for my child. If that means I don’t seek out mom groups, that’s okay. Every human has different needs and boundaries. If you learn to respect that and not take it as an affront to the way you chose to parent, you will naturally find good people that respect you. Accept the differences and learn to understand that every mom is valid. In fact, YOU are valid. We don’t all have to experience parenthood the same way. I wish you personal growth and happiness. You’ll feel much better once you realize that you don’t need other moms to be a healthy, good mom yourself. I hope you can look beyond your initial reaction and see that what you said only further alienates moms from groups. It creates the very culture that fuels the drama, that cuts down other moms. We are all valid as mothers. Do you, but let everyone else make their choices too. Our differences are what makes life so beautiful. You can’t hate on that! Good luck!
This is legit some high school crap, reminds me of watching the "popular rich girl" crowd in my school just lie and back stab each other while pretending to all be best friends. It was like having a soap opera playing for you at lunch pretty much every day in that cafeteria.
The channel Jordan and McKay have a really cool breakdown from the ex-mormon perspective on this situation that was super informative and in depth. They went super into the situation including the way this group was glamourising and misrepresenting Mormonism on tiktok. They do great and very interesting breakdowns of mormon culture from the ex-Mormon perspective in general. Very interesting!
They drank "alot of the time" aren't some of the moms breastfeeding still?? Are they capable of taking care of their babies properly when being drunk alot of the time?
I need a part 2 of this, I swear this made me laugh so hard. The fact that she was chased out of her group and just said to herself "Fuck it, I will bring it all burning to the ground". I mean that's seriously comedy gold
The one who was dancing when their baby was in in the ICU.. I could not. My baby was in the NICU after she was born and the last thing looking around that place was, was joy. Until she could go home. But I saw many babies in awful condition who were in incubators and the parents were crying by their side. I’ll never forget that hell.
I had never heard of any of them or this situation but I’m reading every detail and development now like its the morning paper. So glad you covered this situation bc I can’t imagine not knowing this
Im an uber driver and i had a drunk Mormon tell me about this thing they do called "soaking". Basically, they might as well just be 'hard' swinging bc those Mormons are freaky deaky.
I was looking for a TH-cam channel like yours to play some secret recordings of my ex abusing my kids. I have 3 recordings and they had been getting abused for over 11 years. The man molested my daughter when she was 8 but the DA said it wouldn't stand up in court because it was his word again hers. He got good lawyers and has been lying to the courts for years. The recordings are shocking. My lawyer said in all her years she has never heard anything that bad. Most people can't make it through the whole thing. This is my first time ever having a lawyer. It's been very expensive. The courts have been on his side and believing him for years. He has only left marks a couple times. The sheriff always says he has to leave a mark. But when he leaves marks in the past they say he has a right to discipline his child how ever he sees fit. A couple weeks ago my I pick my sons up from their fathers and they were both crying and begging to not have to go back. I asked what happened. My son said his father got mad and chased him with a shovel trying to hit him. When he couldn't catch up he threw the shovel at him missing him by inches. I did get a restraining order from a judge that hates me. He must have heard the recordings because he took off the supervised visits. The father also hit my son so hard across the face he had ringing in his ear for 5 minutes. I have had to pay over $8000 in lawyers fees. I did start a go fund me because I only make 27,000 a year a everything is skyrocketing right now. Please message me if you might be interested in doing a video on this
Request a different judge. I don't know how long ago it was that they said he "has the right to discipline his child how ever he sees fit" but that doesn't stand anymore. Neither does "his word against hers" with children, especially if you do have proof. You can still take it to civil court if the police or DA won't help you. Unfortunately, it would probably get anyone else into legal trouble and Boze just wouldn't play videos of straight up child abuse. There are other ways of getting the word out there on your own for your gofundme on other forms of social media. Twitter or Reddit would probably be the best places to go for this, since it's easier to reach people on these platforms. Find and reach out to organizations for domestic abuse, abused children, and child trauma.
The saddest thing is they never been really part of the LDS community. They just use the title because everything that people do or say and add the word "Mormon" it will gain more audience. Their TikTok and lifestyle NEVER represented the real "religious live".
I would say trying to outwardly make your life seem way more perfect, successful, happier, etc then it actually is in reality is like, the majority of LDS life. In fact down here in the richer Mormon areas like Highland or Alpine the younger Mormon adults are not that far off from this group in how they presented themselves (clothing, behavior, etc). I think Taylor is literally from Highland lol. You wouldn't catch them dead on BYU campus tho
@@plutigvid If you think that pretending that your life is perfect is singular to these idiots...or even only religious people....then you need to open your eyes and look at the world. It happens everywhere. I'm so tired of people judging Latter Day Saints by the bad apples in Utah. There are good LDS people who follow the standards of their church- but they aren't on TikTok and aren't peddling cheating and swinging. Every time you turn around, any given group of people - religious or otherwise, are judged by the questionable or abominable actions of a few. When you get out of Utah, into the rest of the world, that is NOT the majority of Mormon life. I'm a convert of 50 years, have traveled to and lived in many states and out of the country. NEVER have the LDS communities been anything like this! It must be a Utah thing. And, since Utah is an incubator for MLM businesses ( partially rooted in the concept of being responsible for the welfare of your family), I can see how some can be sucked into it... I just fail to see the lack of sense exhibited when they jump off the figurative cliff. For the record, this doesn't just happen in LDS areas. I live in a majority Baptist area... same type of thing but not necessarily with MLM being part of it. In my opinion, it boils down to commitment. Commitment to God, your spouse, your religion, marriage, family, honesty, ethics....beliefs. Whatever you believe in and hold dear....if you can be swayed to engage in behavior that is contrary to that belief, then you aren't committed to it. This isn't a religious thing- it's a people thing. And if you think these people are the only ones pretending that there life is perfect then I know a desert property in the bayou that you might be interested in.
@@plutigvid LDS encourages this. It's considered the only job that's acceptable for a woman (because it's just filming silly tiktoks so of course it's not work) because it brings others to the religion. Nara Smith and Ruby Franke are the first two that come to mind.
I found your channel during the Johnny Depp trial, but now I’m literally binging all of your content. I know I’m late, but I’m so happy I found your videos. We’re all obsessed with true crime and you are hilarious and stunning, so thank you for all the videos! ♥️✌🏻✨
It always fascinates me as a British person watching US religious households and their ridiculous dramas. I don't know whether much of it is down to religious indoctrination wrecking their ability to think, or whether they're just immature, but it truly amazes me how poor their reasoning skills are.
weird stuff goes on in non religious households here in America as well but it’s usually just typical family drama that you’d see in any country. I was raised religious (I’m not anymore) but the shit that happens in the religious groups (I can only speak on this as an American) are insane. It’s usually because of a lot of shaming happens and the strict rules. They’re more concerned with how the community views them so they end up doing a lot of weird shit behind closed doors, that is until it all hits the fan and everyone finds out 😭
These hypocrites need to step back and figure out why they pretend to promote things they don't really believe in. Of course it's for money and attention, but it's hard to see how it could possibly be worth it. It's not just confusing to the viewers (who really cares) How is all this going to affect the kids in the coming years?
I just want to say this is the BEST VIDEO I'VE WATCHED non-stop drama and excitement omg Boze, you're the best this was amazing, more of this please. I also sent a link to my Mormon friend and hope she enjoys it as much as I did.
I was raised Mormon, and I haven't been in a long time. The assumption that religious people can't be creepy or cringey or immoral is absurd. I can totally believe that they were all "soft" swinging...I'm sure that playing with fire means regular swinging.
My father's mom was a Mormon and my father's dad was Jehovah's Witness. My mother's parents were both stringent Southern Baptists. They were cordial to one another in terms of in-laws but I know what they were thinking.
I wasn't raised Mormon but my mom is a narcissist. I'm 26yo and to this day she STILL gets wrapped up in high school level drama with the other moms at my sister's school. She will just call me up out of the blue to vent about it. It's never HER fault of course... I just can't fathom how people just willingly keep putting themselves through this. It seems so exhausting. 😓
If you're in a group practicing "soft swinging," or whatever the fk they're calling it, this is a fully expected outcome. Drama can't NOT follow.... 😑🤨🙄
They should just make up say they're all in a poly relationship, and then make boundaries that they're all comfortable with and then just go on with their lives.
Lol where were these Moms when I was LDS? Growing up Mormon the moms were casserole toting, conservative dressed soccer-moms with the karen-chop hairdos. The nastiest thing they did was make you feel bad for talking too loud during sacrament.
Drinking is not accepted anywhere in the religion. If its happening, its socially supported, not institutionally supported. Just wanna throw that out there. Some Mormons may drink, but if they told their bishop about it, they would lose their "temple recommend" which would prohibit them from participating in temple work.
As someone who is ex-mormon this is all insane!! Every single bit of this is "against the rules" the drinking, the swinging, the only fans. 😂😂😂 Messy Mormon Tok
I know right! As a current member I was questioning wether or not Boze got the right religion for these people. I am confused cause I’ve never met anyone of these groups or individuals in my area of utah (I guess I just chose the right people to interact with) and I saw so many comments confirming this is true??? Hello where have I been??Honestly they’re just wak lol. Maybe they were baptized into the church but they don’t live by our standards.
@@tenderleesay7072 I think this is so sad for the community that we share. The LDS community overall can be very toxic but we already have a bad enough reputation for miss information on our views of things such as polygamy. It’s crazy we DO NOT swing these are NOT our practices!!!
@@RageUnchained your experiences your experience and I’ll respect you for that but “Cult “is a very strong term with a much harsher background than I personally have ever experienced in the LDS church you shouldn’t go throwing that term around. As an almost recruit of an ACTUAL cult.
Because the men clearly manipulated them. I’ve had many men try to force me into polygamy when I just don’t want to. They will truly try to manipulate you into doing it just because they want to have sex with many people.
@@大城泉-c7d yes but the problem we have with Mormons is that they act like they're better than everyone else when they're just as fucked as the rest of us.
As an ex-mo, I can say Mormon moms are terrifying. Especially influencer Mormon Moms. There’s a constant air of Too-Perfect-ness about them, it’s scary fr fr (EDITED TO ADD ON) Seeing them dressed with V necks, showing stomach, etc, is strange because I remember that being frowned upon in the community. When I comes to Polygamy, that has been refuted by mainstream Mormonism, and FLDS, or Fundamentalist Mormons, are the ones who still ever so somewhat accept polygamy. This is a weird situation all around, especially looking at it from the Ex-Mormon side of this
I’ve always said the minute you bring another person into a committed relationship you’re asking for trouble and most end in divorce or breakups. It’s just not worth it.
I remember hanging out with a group of christian girls because I wasn't a partier and already didn't like a lot of people in my school anyway (like honky tonk Missouri) They were fine, I went to youth group and like church camp with them but always felt kinda left out since I moved there and they've been friends since they were little and the christian label was on me just because my family was tho I never identified as it Eventually I just slowly left because I didn't realize how judgey they were and I was just bored being around them. I told someone who use to be in that group who also backed away that I only kept hanging out with them because they were there and I related more with her anyway a little bit and she said she stopped being around them because they were judge, but it was like subtle and I don think I was catching on The only crazy thing I know is when one of the girls had a boyfriend, they broke up, and the dude went to one of the other girls and they got engaged after 11 months Maybe the rest didn't care, but I thought it was weird
What does getting engaged after a year to another person have anything to do with your Christian statement? Sounds like a responsible amount of time to pass after dating someone.
@@c.l.1820 Getting engaged after 11 months is weird Most of the time it’s Christians who would get engaged super early in the relationship But it’s their life
I feel she’s being honest for the most part, maybe a lil scorned… you know what they say… I think the group deserves all that’s coming to them, the harder you pretend the harder you’re exposal will be. No judgement on the swinging, don’t care for pretend religious better than attitudes.
I’m an ex Mormon, I’m HERE for this Don’t get me wrong though, all these girls who are Mormon aren’t true Mormons lmfao, they sit there and act perfect when really they pick and choose and just do what makes them look good
Did you say these mom's are Mormon? They do not look like, talk like , dress like, act like ANY Mormons I have EVER known! (and I have known hundreds!)
Oh Mormon drama. ::listens intensely:: I grew up w/2 Mormon besties. They attended BYU schools (Idaho and Utah). I got to hear all the "sinfully" shameless stories! One WTF story was about a group of girls who snuck alcohol into the dorms, got drunk and caught. They later had to confess in front of the congregation and had their ranks demoted. (What rank? I have no clue)
This gives me a flashback to my childhood. Both my parent really drilled "There are no such things as friends. They are either family or people you happen to know." They also would say things like "Be careful about what you say and who you say it too. Bc those you called 'friends' can easily turn on you." As a kid I thought my parents were just very negative, but as an adult now, i kinda see their point.
wait wait wait... i feel so bad for these kids... imagine being them and growing up and say this shit all comes out later on like... yeah my mum was in a tiktok cult being passed around like theyre at a college party... what the fuck!?
"In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes.” Andy warhol little did he know tiktok will be created where famous moms be having couple swap drama
Please note: the woman gets the blame for "breaking the agreement", whereas the man escapes all accountability.
Well he is getting a divorce and it seems the wives are all the social media front. So publicly the wives are going to get blame. All these people put their toes into waters that they weren't ready to swim in.
"Babe my peen was up and I couldn't let it go to waste. It only happens once a week for 5 secs and she was right there!!!"
Can i like ask u when do the men escape all accountability? its a proven fact that menhoes will have it worse than womenhoes... Oh better yet u dont have to do nothin litaraly n were blamed for it...
In the bible the man is supposed to remember that the leader is the servant.
and therefore falling completely in line with most conservative religions
I love how I’m a 21 year old woman and I’m watching women 10+ years older than me having social media drama like they’re in high school 💀
The crowd of people in their thirties pretty much started social media lmao
*high school never ends blasting on a speak in the distance*
an entertaining society at that
These women are in their 20s also, lol
😂😂😂 we just get grown things but we never grow up
My Christian mom wouldn’t let me go to any sleep overs, bible studies or Christian camps cuz she knew what be goin on. She really said praise the lord but trust no bitch 😂
Yeah but that's just all teens lol
AHHH this the best comment 😂
A Christian queen❤
Amen
PRAISE THE LORD BUT TRUST NO BITCH, I LOVE IT
As an Ex-Mormon RAISED in the church, these ladies are breaking SOOOOOO MANY rules its so funny watching this
Right? For me it also throws me off that this is the example people have to go off of for what Mormons are like. I left the church as well but misrepresentation still bothers me for some reason. Despite my reasons for leaving, i still feel compassion for my loved ones that are part of the church. I dont want them to be seen like this because of these tiktokers example.
Also, I love your MollyMauke prof pic.
@@ferntella honey, do you think your loved ones are seen as anything other than bigots anyway? At least the Mormon mom's made them relatable to those not in the church. They were doing you a favour.
@@ferntella To be honest, this kind of misrepresentation is better than the truth. When people find out all the dirty secrets of the religion, this kind of exposure is nothing.
I read one of them having OF 😂 and I just like wtf. I think they're just want the image and milking it, but don't give af about the faith at all. Calling adultery as 'soft swinging'.
Hypocrites. They reap what they sow.
try christianity, you’ll like it. im sorry the people failed you. but are you doing it for them or for Jesus?❤
Shoutout to the people who were asking how her kids are. Ignoring the drama and wondering how the kids are during all this.
This is literally how I explain office drama to my best friend, he has no clue who or what I'm talking about it but I'm so invested he just loves it
I LOVE people spilling random tea I have no bag in. Like, yes, Rebecca IS a bitch and she totally deserved what Tanya did to her!
You have a good best friend lol
I need a friend like you. Lmao
I loooove hearing all the drama.
You have a great friend and you're most likely a great story teller. 🤣
Yes! To all of this.
There’s so much hidden drama going on in church communities. As someone who was raised in one, it’s weird because everything is coated in this “perfect happiness” and no one ever brings shit up. But behind the scenes, there’s some real tea going on. You know like the one girl who stopped showing up on sundays but comes back pregnant or with a baby. One time in my church, this “nice” couple silently split up and the woman just started showing up with a much older dude; the ex was also found to have been a serial cheat throughout their relationship. Or this one time the super religious pastor was caught or confessed to going to strip clubs. It’s wild. And in person, everyone just acts like nothing’s wrong. But in private, they’re all talking.
the church acts like a place of honesty and forgiveness but the community surrounding it is always judgmental and gossipy, this leads to this weird two faced culture in almost every religious circle, kind of defeating the whole point of it tbh.
@@cocothedino_2901 Exactly! That’s the worst part. I heard stories like these from my parents and other women. I’m just there being silent or trying to direct the conversation elsewhere. The amount of times I’ve silently thought “wow aren’t you supposed to be a Christian?” about someone who was clearly being mean was far too often. We had women disliking other women all like “I’ll just leave them in god’s hands.” Bro what do you meannn 😭😭
Right- Ive been in various Christian churches with some weird drama but I was too young to understand so I just heard stuff 🤣
Wasn't there a saying that was like...Church is for broken people? Or something like that
@@REChronic54 "I'll just leave them in gods hands" is precisely the kind of snarky back handed compliment I've come to expect from most church aunties lolol 🥴 girl???
I'm a married mom of 3 littles and can't ever relate to these perfect mommy influencers. I'm perfectly fine being dysfunctional bc shit happens. these are like the popular mean girls in highschool and in your college dorm. you can't stand them bc they make you feel inferior by their fake perfection.
Helen, I’m a married mom of 3 girls too and I can’t relate to them either and I am actually a member of the Mormon faith. It’s incredibly disheartening to see them use the religion for clout.
Out of interest, is drinking alcohol also "forbidden"? What could happen to them all now that this has gone public? Can they be kicked from the "church" (apologies if its not a church 🖤) because of the bombshells being dropped?
Also in "dummy/laymens terms" what if anything, could they be punished for, Or would be frowned upon simply based on what has been revealed so publicly that goes against the rules of being Mormons?
🖤🖤
Lol right..just like in highschool all the mean girls talking crap about each other and hooking up with their "bffs" boyfriends behind their back and acting like they love each other meanwhile constantly trying to outdo and bring each other down lmao
I’m not married nor a mom. But I watched my parents raise 3 kids and it was never anywhere near what these women would portray. Their lives are only perfect for the duration of those videos lol. I always felt “famous” couples who are famous for being a couple often have the most problems and skeletons in their closet
Come to “probably not gonna be voted mom of the year-tok” where we have no limits on screen time and occasionally have candy for breakfast and curse in front of our kids and refuse to play baby shark in the car but will however will play “f** the 👮♀️” by NWA and we put ice in our wine and spend more time in mismatched pajamas (that are not cute) instead of real clothes. If your “no makeup & cute messy bun” looks more like Miss Trunchbull than a Kardashian you might be eligible to be our next president which just means that we will be having bbq’s at your house this week but I’ll bring our XL tarp and baby soap and we can call it a slip n slide. They’ll never know. See y’all on Saturday bitches 😘😘😘
I'm an ex mormon. This stuff would not be tolerated: swinging, homosexuality, drinking, and clothing choices. In order to participate in temple services you can't be doing any of these things. I suppose they could go to church still, but I find it weird that they consider themselves mormon seeing as mormons don't do any of those things (openly, i suppose they could try and hide it. They view it as a sin though). This is so strange.
I think they know there is a market with the moms that subscribed to this content and hold people who look and act like the mormon moms on a pedestal. These people latched onto this as a money grab, even though they don't necessarily subscribe to these ideals and morals.
I wonder how long they've been in the church or if they _did_ jump on some sort of money train that required church attendance.
nothing about these families could be defined as Mormon, the seem to be pretty oblivious to the teachings
Oh you sweet person. There’s so much going on behind closed doors, it would knock your socks right off!!
The clothing really struck me as not mormon. Ik a lot of mormons dont wear garmets but ... idk what is actually mormon about these people at all. They probably just want to believe they get their own planets when they die and they can invite each other to their planets to make out
@@dreamlaughwishful most LDS are in it for money and networking so yeah
I feel SO BAD for the kids! Just imagine when they’re older and all this shit comes back! That’s gonna SUCK
Not me, a single, 27-year-old woman with no children, watching drama involving mommy Mormon swingers. 😂
I relate to your comment so hard lol 😆
Same! 😆😅
Me too gurl. Im 26 though. ;_;
Same
Hi, me too😇😂
Hold up, Boze serving us some Mormon Drama on a Fundy Friday? What is this, a crossover episode? Either way, HERE FOR IT!! 🙏
A crossover would be cool even if it was just over Zoom and edited together!
Lol yaaaas
Me and you @Sydposting are always first on Boze vids 😂
Love ur pfp it's very eye catching
Nice Bojack reference 😎
Okay so I live in Utah but I’m not Mormon. That said, the weird soft swinging thing in the LDS community isn’t uncommon. The same situation happened a couple years back with a few couples that lived on our street. It was all hush hush until a few caught feelings and one wound up banging on another couple’s door drunk crying and confessing caught feelings. Cops had to be called. Needless to say there were a few divorces and eventually they all moved.
That sounds super out of the norm from Mormons. Lol. Affairs are normally pretty basic and boring. Coming from someone who was mormon for 2 decades and has pioneer ancestry lol
This must be the new form of Polygamy, just making it fair to the women now. 😉
I had a mormon neighbor that bragged about stealing from Walmart. Her and her husband later divorced because she would have random guys come over and have sex. Mormons are the most immoral corrupt people on the planet.
@@plamondonworks6948 another ex Mormon here😅 but I'm from Germany maybe German Mormons are not acting that crazy but your recollection sound way more familiar to me than the other recount.. Also I'm confused... If they are all married practicing Mormons why do they dress so revealing or drink at least the way I grew up that was a no no as Mormon 😅
@@plamondonworks6948 I’ve had affairs when I was in highschool. Affairs are never worth it, and just hormonal impulses. They usually always ruin your life. You end up alone every time.
Seeing these fully grown women treating each other like they're in a clique in highschool is really making me hear "Highschool Never Ends" by Bowling for Soup right now.
I love this song so much. It was speaking the eternal life-long truth. Some things change, but so much stays the same. No matter where or how it shows up, high school really doesn't end. It just becomes "grown up".
Me, an exmormon watching this knowing I could’ve been having a feral girl summer instead of gaslighting and berating myself for drinking earl grey tea: 😒
😂 It’s been a year since you left this comment.. please 🙏🏻 tell me things have changed 😂
@@jettsetgirl haha hi! Not so much feral girl but definitely not berating myself 😂 I drink coffee every morning and I love my Earl grey 😌 I have had a few alcoholic drinks but honestly it's just for the occasion. Not really a fan of how it makes me feel. It's okay but i don't think I'm a drink every night type of girl. I will try new things tho when they come my way so I've definitely figured out what I like and don't like. Overall, I'm much happier and I don't feel any shame at all for drinking tea lol so that's a plus 😊
@@TheCornDavis🎉🎉🎉freedom❤
As an ex Mormon I can confirm that a lot of people in the church drink and swing… they just don’t post about it on social media lol
usually anyone in the church community who are publicly trying to be churchgoing and "good" usually wind up being the ones who do the worst things. I remember many instances being young.. we all knew the wildest girls were from the church schools, we knew women from bible schools who would pick up the high school football players to party at their house, and lots of other things. I remember one hot woman who would often pick up teenagers to help her in her community garden, would take them to those crazy church revivals where everyone would dance and do silly stuff, and then would turn around because she liked having sex with teenagers which is why she did all that stuff. As teen boys, we were perfectly fine with a crazy hot woman picking us up lol. Not legal of course, but we are guys, we don't worry about a hot woman taking advantage of us, that is awesome!
Oh god, this hits too close to home. I was raised in this madness and Mormons can get really wack, real fast. Don’t get me wrong, there are good people here and there, but the whole organization and the leadership is abysmal. The history of this church is pretty insane, violent, and full of gaslighting.
So true!! I highly recommend watching under the banner of heaven if you haven't already, it's a bit triggering but also very validating, particularly episode 6. Andrew Garfield does an amazing job
Fax
Let’s not forget white supremacy
Why do they actively promote a religion that condemns the morals governing their lives and behavior? Seems like you’d quietly stay away from the church, knowing it would never support or endorse who you really are…guess these types don’t really feel shame?
P R E A C H!!
Damn, I'm polyamorous and I've never seen anything this wild in my life lmao. They should have just all stated they had feelings for each other and started a commune
The old Mormon way
@@hiddenboi6552 better way than whatever the hell I just watched happen.
Girl how do you get over the nervous feeling on that first poly date? Im terrified.
@@skittles5113 just remind yourself feelings of anxiety, and jealousy, and other feelings are completely natural and you can give space to those thoughts and feelings without letting them keep you from enjoying yourself! Also my best advice is be open and honest in communicating with people.
They could have created The Greater Utah Polycule
I think you are a 100% right about the husband's encouraging their wives to explore any Borderline bisexuality. The whole power stuff between males and females and mormonism is some of the deepest stuff
This comes down to something very profound I recently heard: "If people hate you because of Jesus, that's ok. If people hate Jesus because of you, that's a problem." I am just...simply Christian myself, don't really ascribe to any particular denomination but have had experiences in life I can't chalk up to Anyone else but God. That aside, what these people do...it makes me shake my head, what a way to set a terrible example.
It’s so funny that Camille and her husband didn’t get invited to swing bc they’re “too much drama” 🤣🤣 like damn what did they do to not be worthy of the fun times you know? I guess it’s kind of good bc they’re like cleared of the wildness
Swinging isn’t fun though. It’s more of a purely sexual exchange. There’s nothing fun about it.
@@bluesakura2092 Plenty of people find sex fun. Who was asking you, anyway? lmfao
@@bluesakura2092 they sure as heck aren't using it for procreation LMAOOO
@@bluesakura2092 nothing fun about sex? Which one are you sheltered or asexual?
@@KatzeKriegerin People like you who insult others for no reason is why people kill themselves and are tired of being in this world.
As someone who’s ex Mormon I feel like I’m losing my mind 💀 I ain’t ever heard of soft swinging lmfao this is crazy
It's like soaking lmao 😂 I knew some people (couples and singles) at byui who did both
@@Adrian-gk5vs NAWW NOT SOAKING 😭😭 I completely forgot about that lmfao
@@Adrian-gk5vs Bro the more I learn about mormons the more I feel like as a whole they're totally sex crazed 😭
@@Teaghoul Hey bro my girl is coming by in a sec you wanna get your shoes on real quick and get under the bed? 😏
They start out with NCMO, depending how old you are you may have heard mention of it. NonCommittal Making Out
Soft swinging isn't real. It doesn't matter if your partner is present or not for any encounters, consent is what matters. You're either swinging (consent) or cheating (non-consenting), and she cheated.
I think the soft part is that it might not be full se
Yeah i was thinking that the whole time im like this just sounds like major cope on her part
can we just acknowledge how these men definitely manipulated all these women to become swingers and have sex with them. Come on!
Exactly!!!!
@@salmaabdullahgb I definitely get what you're saying, but I would consider that to be boundaries within their swinging agreement. Just as monogamous couples may have boundaries on what types of acts/play are acceptable with each other. Whether you can do this or that with another person's partner is still swinging.
She went full Joker on em "Its not about money. It's about sending a message. Everything burns." 🔥
as of April 10th 2023 she was arrested for a domestic violence dispute. she apparently got into an argument with her ex and threw a chair at him but it ended up hitting her 5 year old daughter. didn’t really see that coming after this video came out awhile ago lmfao
Mormon here. Drinking alcohol is against the rules, no matter where you are, lol. We're definitely not supposed to screw or kiss people besides our own spouses, even if there's consent all around. And there's also the clothing/modesty standards that clearly went out the window. This whole situation is super weird to me. Like... none of us are perfect, but are these people even trying to be Mormons? Which part of the religion do they believe in?? Do they get drunk and hook up with each other before or after their nightly scripture study??
I will say that the concept of Mormon moms pretending everything in their life is 100% pristine and perfect is pretty standard, especially for Utah/Idaho. Everyone wants to show off how righteous they are, how clean their house is, how much their husband loves them, how smart and sweet their kids are... it's exhausting.
I’m glad to see another lds person address this. I think there’s a huge problem with people claiming to be faithful, kind and charitable people while doing horrible things on the side that do not fall in line with our beliefs. Thank you for your thoughts!
I agree 💯
I agree. I totally understand that everyone has their own challenges, and I have close friends in lots of different situations...but there's a point where you're really not living any of the "mormon" lifestyle or standards that make us who we are; the way that we live and believe that classifies us as Christians and members of the church of Jesus Christ. This seems very far off.. I'm sad to see that this is a public and private representation of my religion..
Well perhaps if they didn't get married so young just to be able to have sez, it wouldn't become so prevelent in the community.
It's like this for all religions. People pick and choose what to follow and what's "not to be taken literally". Why do you all pretend your cult is a good thing. As the generations go forward religion becomes less important. They are fairytales.
and on pride month?? they got played by their husband’s lesbian fantasies smh
Right that's bothering me so bad lmfao
Damn not during pride month
So their husbands chose for them to do this…? Is this true or are y’all trynna find others to blame because y’all don’t think women can want to be with other women by choice if they’re married
@@iMsOiNsO Nah people think that because these men didn't do things with eachother but did things with the wifes AND agreed for the wifes to do each other. So it looks like they are the masterminds. But ps I think these women were just....weird and I don't have any opinion on men cos I haven't heard anything about them
@@iMsOiNsO the men literally only agreed to it because they fetishized lesbians and wanted the women to be together. Lol. ALL of them are at fault here. I just feel bad for the kids
These moms radiate my “Christian” fake friends in my school-
I have attacked by all but one who is my only friend because some my beliefs are “unChristian” even though I have plenty of verses and personal convictions for those beliefs. I truly feel terrible for the woman she had to take all the blame when it wasn’t only her…
If they are Christians than they’re probably not living as one. Or they go to church but they’re not Christian. I’ve met actual Christians and they’re the most loyal people I’ve ever met. And I’ve met both “Christians”.
@@peanut4664 I myself am Christian this is more about the ways people use religion to protect their shitty behaviors even though as I said later on can easily be disproven.
I find that those loud Christians are usually fake.
As someone who grew up mormon in the mormon capitol of the world, people really do be having drama like this every single day. This just so happens to be online and for the world to see. Even in my own neighborhood growing up, I watched multiple couples get torn apart by this kind of stuff. But instead of the main platform being online, it was all just gossip and then somebody going up onto the podium on Sundays and saying "hey, remember cheating is bad." and it getting swept under the rug to repeat again.
Loved the video! I'm glad I'm not the only one who wants to know the ins and outs of this kind of stuff when it happens haha!
Boze, please do an update on this. She was arrested in Feb this year for domestic assault
I’m technically a Mormon, I don’t really keep to the rules anymore other than abstinence so I don’t care if other members don’t follow the rules to a tee. But I do hate when those same members try to make themselves look like the most perfect people on social media and they use the fact that they’re part of a religion to help sell that image.
I'm not a Mormon but I have an uncle like that who thinks he's "holier than thou". On Social media he's God loving man but behind the scenes terrible terrible person.
The older I get, religion seems like nothing more than claiming to be morally superior over others.
It feels so gross
Egg. Look up the BITE model for cults and compare it to Mormonism. Good luck! ❤️
@@bonniea.1941 I’m technically a Mormon because I follow some of their rules and I grew up in it. Doesn’t mean I still practice it and go to church😂 I’m aware of the similarities
@@egg6144 I’m still an on the books Mormon too. I never officially quit because I didn’t want to upset my parents. But I was in denial about how bad it was, and how much it effected me for a long time. Sorry to butt into your business. 😕 I’m a recovering codependent so worrying about strangers on the internet happens from time to time. 😂🤷🏻♀️
I'm not religious but kept thinking, "damn this is sinful" xD
Saaaaame but it's "yall need Jesus"
Lmao same
Yes.. yes they are that's a guaranteed and I don't know how there going to explain this. Cause there screwed
🤣🤣🤣 people are whack! Especially the religious ones
HAHA IN THE GIRLS LIVE WHEN SHE SAID THEY WOULD GET WITH EACH OTHERS PEOPLES SOMEONE SAID "i cant even share food 😩"
😂😂😂
Man I have to be honest.. What completely baffles me in a situation like this is.. Everyone is with everyone doing the nasty, and they don't expect any drama to come from that? Just how dumb are these people?
yeah, honestly… it’s almost as if sex is meant to emotionally bond you to a person 🤔
@@scarsoundI don’t think they’re actually having sec cus she said they didn’t “go all the way”
Men drama is interesting, I watched an entire male friend group explode purely because one of them made a play the others didn’t like in magic the gathering. Split up the house for months and two people got kicked fully out of the group.
How this comment went so under the radar for two years is beyond me, but wow that just made me smile for some reason. I hope they made up. I’d love a “Where are they now”
Does she not realize that there can be cheating within swinging/polyamory? Also if the other people are follows the set boundaries how are they also in the wrong .-.
She did admit that at the start though, that she messed up
what. she said everyone was hooking up with each other so i’m confused on how she’s the only one in the wrong
@@freemara3429 it sounds like they had a set of rules they all agreed too. She however broke a rule? Idk it's all really weird and confusing, either commit to a open relationship or don't why do they need to make so many hurdles.
@Water Bottle I don't think she was victimizing, I think she was pointing out the hypocrisy because she was the only one getting "cancelled" for it. They essentially picked someone to pin it on so everyone else didn't have to own up.
@@laceysmith7717 ^^^^^^^
Oh yeah, as an ex-mormon, mental gymnastics is right on the money. That's what it takes to have faith in anything involving that religion. Plenty of practice with manipulation as well
Is that what made u leave the mormon faith? No hate, but something abt the mormon faith has always seemed 'off' to me. I hope things are going well for you now.😊🙏🏻♥
@@TeddyLovesAxl honestly, the Mormon church I thought I knew was just the tip of the iceberg. There's so much they lie about, horrible massacres and twisted betrayals that they try to erase, gaslighting, misogyny, brainwashing, masonic rituals. It gets really wack the further you look into it. Eventually I realized I had to choose between living an authentic life or continuing to push my doubts and write off the truth I discovered in order to preserve my sense of self. It's been a rough journey uprooting all the little seeds they planted in my head but I'm doing so much better now and it was so worth it.
@@TeddyLovesAxl I can’t speak for the commenter. But ex-Mormon here. Yes the toxicity/manipulation of the Mormon community contributed to me leaving, but it’s much more than that. WHAT made me leave is learning about the bite model and realizing how high the Mormon church falls on it (and you’d need to look this up to follow what I’m about to use as an example). For the behavior part of it, the Mormon church does check 1-5, 7-13, sort of 17 because corporal punishment was encouraged by my bishop to my parents when I was questioning things, 18, 23 and 24(there are stories of pregnant teenagers in the Mormon church being sent to camps to give birth, sometimes against their will).
For information control they check 1-6, some of the subcategories aren’t checked but very few. And even then it’s depending on the individuals local church. So they check EVERYTHING for information control.
Thought control, they check every box. No questions asked. Anybody who says otherwise is so indoctrinated they can’t even realize it.
Emotional control, they check everything as well, minus 1 subcategory. Which is “threats of harm to ex-member and family”. But I feel like that’s dependent on a persons family.
Of course the bite model is more than just falling into the boxes and saying “yes this happens”, there’s a rating system as well. But despite that, even when I went through the rating system for it, Mormonism was still pretty high.
Basically what I’m saying is that, I broke free from the Mormon indoctrination and their cult mentality. When my eyes were open I saw how corrupt the Mormon church is. How evil they truly are. Anybody who says otherwise is an idiot. And when they tell me otherwise I remind them of the general conference (huge thing in the Mormon community. Like the youth are given homework for it and everything) where a church leader testified that he resurrected a gnat…. Yes a gnat. Only a cult would do that.
Edit. Also adding in 14, 21, and 25 under behavior control. Because there’s some dark history in the church with gay people, and some assassinations during Brigham young’s era.
@@marynrose198 Glad ur life is on the right track and u are unscathed by that experience🙏🏻🥲
@EricB It's not religion. It's the people & society who twist the words to fit their own agenda. Culture/Society/Individuals =/= Religion.
This is precisely why I have NEVER been a part of “mom culture.” No groups, no play dates, nada. (Don’t worry, my daughter has always been surrounded by people and hasn’t suffered for it in any way. Most social kiddo I know.) Just because I had a kid, doesn’t mean I’m going to like other women who did too. Mom groups of all kinds are breeding grounds for drama. Also, they ALWAYS end in an MLM pitch. No thanks, boss moms. 🤷🏼♀️😘
So let me guess “you’re not like other moms.” Lol 🙄. Are we not pass this??? It probably works ok for you because it sounds like you have one child.
@@omowhanre Why would having One kid matter? Plus she has a healthy mentality about it. What's your problem here?
@@omowhanre don’t think so mom culture can be incredibly toxic and awful - pretty much a second high school
@@omowhanre you are objectively incorrect. I probably triggered a response of that nature because you love your MLM. Perhaps it might be a person in your life making you feel the need to defend? I bet you have a hard time watching other moms who have boundaries in place to prevent toxic people like you from poisoning their motherhood experience. No parent needs the immense pressure of high school bullies comparing other moms based upon how many kids they have. Now this is where the ignorance truly begins. The very issue that I’ve expressed my opinion on, was attempted to be rebutted by the exact actions I’m against, that you have taken. You played your role perfectly, showing the perfect example of why I don’t participate in “mom culture.” Moms like you are the reason I feel this way. Stop projecting and really take stock of your feelings. Are you having them because you feel called out? Do you participate in the toxicity that ruins play dates? Maybe it circles back to your feelings about MLMs? Do some heavy introspection and come back in a month to see if my comment is really that awful, really that triggering. Realize that healthy decisions and behavior will feel uncomfortable if you don’t recognize them as such. You also can’t control the way anyone else thinks or feels. You can only control yourself.
With that said, I truly hope you can find peace through therapy. It’s ok to not understand how to properly express yourself if you have never had the tools to do so. You will be a much happier person if you don’t depend on other people to feel fulfilled as a mother. Remember to do things for you because that could be the very thing you’re missing now that you have children. We all had a life before kids and reconnecting with your former self will remind you of how you once dealt with other women. maybe you won’t be so judgmental about the opinions and choices of other moms. I’m coming from a place of being the healthiest mom I can be for my child. If that means I don’t seek out mom groups, that’s okay. Every human has different needs and boundaries. If you learn to respect that and not take it as an affront to the way you chose to parent, you will naturally find good people that respect you. Accept the differences and learn to understand that every mom is valid. In fact, YOU are valid. We don’t all have to experience parenthood the same way. I wish you personal growth and happiness. You’ll feel much better once you realize that you don’t need other moms to be a healthy, good mom yourself. I hope you can look beyond your initial reaction and see that what you said only further alienates moms from groups. It creates the very culture that fuels the drama, that cuts down other moms. We are all valid as mothers. Do you, but let everyone else make their choices too. Our differences are what makes life so beautiful. You can’t hate on that! Good luck!
This is legit some high school crap, reminds me of watching the "popular rich girl" crowd in my school just lie and back stab each other while pretending to all be best friends. It was like having a soap opera playing for you at lunch pretty much every day in that cafeteria.
The channel Jordan and McKay have a really cool breakdown from the ex-mormon perspective on this situation that was super informative and in depth. They went super into the situation including the way this group was glamourising and misrepresenting Mormonism on tiktok. They do great and very interesting breakdowns of mormon culture from the ex-Mormon perspective in general. Very interesting!
If you can find a good group of people who soft swing or date each other without having any shady rules or people, that's the real miracle
Being good people doesnt mean you wont develop feelings for one reason or another 🤷🏼♀️ its a risk of the style
They drank "alot of the time" aren't some of the moms breastfeeding still?? Are they capable of taking care of their babies properly when being drunk alot of the time?
I need a part 2 of this, I swear this made me laugh so hard. The fact that she was chased out of her group and just said to herself "Fuck it, I will bring it all burning to the ground". I mean that's seriously comedy gold
I second this
The one who was dancing when their baby was in in the ICU.. I could not. My baby was in the NICU after she was born and the last thing looking around that place was, was joy. Until she could go home. But I saw many babies in awful condition who were in incubators and the parents were crying by their side. I’ll never forget that hell.
I love the dramatic edits and how much boze loves some good tea, cuz dont we all. The f*ing news report had me on the floor
In all my years of being on the Internet, Mormon Tik Tok drama was the last thing I expected.
I mean, isn’t Shay Carl a Mormon? I mean, the OG scandal.
@@Punkeosa I honestly thought they were Christian 😂😂😂
I had never heard of any of them or this situation but I’m reading every detail and development now like its the morning paper. So glad you covered this situation bc I can’t imagine not knowing this
Sameeee
Didnt know how I felt til I read this comment, putting my feelings into words lmao
Im an uber driver and i had a drunk Mormon tell me about this thing they do called "soaking". Basically, they might as well just be 'hard' swinging bc those Mormons are freaky deaky.
What is “soaking” 😳?
Lmfaooooo I just googled it wtf
Wtf we need an uber confessional video now plzzzz
@@annalisajohnson5759 a gripping saga told in two sentences 🥴😭
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the way you can watch boze live & when the video comes out the editing makes it worth watching again
Honestly, Mormonism aside, this woman is making a power move and I give her mad respect for that. She's owning her mistakes and that's awesome.
I was looking for a TH-cam channel like yours to play some secret recordings of my ex abusing my kids. I have 3 recordings and they had been getting abused for over 11 years. The man molested my daughter when she was 8 but the DA said it wouldn't stand up in court because it was his word again hers. He got good lawyers and has been lying to the courts for years. The recordings are shocking. My lawyer said in all her years she has never heard anything that bad. Most people can't make it through the whole thing. This is my first time ever having a lawyer. It's been very expensive. The courts have been on his side and believing him for years. He has only left marks a couple times. The sheriff always says he has to leave a mark. But when he leaves marks in the past they say he has a right to discipline his child how ever he sees fit. A couple weeks ago my I pick my sons up from their fathers and they were both crying and begging to not have to go back. I asked what happened. My son said his father got mad and chased him with a shovel trying to hit him. When he couldn't catch up he threw the shovel at him missing him by inches. I did get a restraining order from a judge that hates me. He must have heard the recordings because he took off the supervised visits. The father also hit my son so hard across the face he had ringing in his ear for 5 minutes. I have had to pay over $8000 in lawyers fees. I did start a go fund me because I only make 27,000 a year a everything is skyrocketing right now. Please message me if you might be interested in doing a video on this
Uppin ur comment, sadly i cant help you financially, but i hope by some miracle u can prove his abuse. Best wishes!!
Request a different judge. I don't know how long ago it was that they said he "has the right to discipline his child how ever he sees fit" but that doesn't stand anymore. Neither does "his word against hers" with children, especially if you do have proof. You can still take it to civil court if the police or DA won't help you. Unfortunately, it would probably get anyone else into legal trouble and Boze just wouldn't play videos of straight up child abuse. There are other ways of getting the word out there on your own for your gofundme on other forms of social media. Twitter or Reddit would probably be the best places to go for this, since it's easier to reach people on these platforms. Find and reach out to organizations for domestic abuse, abused children, and child trauma.
@@KatzeKriegerin solid advice, thank you for being kind, stranger ♡
Pretty sure boze can’t play recordings of child abuse on stream or on TH-cam. It goes against community guidelines
How many people have you played the recording to?
The saddest thing is they never been really part of the LDS community. They just use the title because everything that people do or say and add the word "Mormon" it will gain more audience. Their TikTok and lifestyle NEVER represented the real "religious live".
Makes sense, valid point
That's what I thought too
I would say trying to outwardly make your life seem way more perfect, successful, happier, etc then it actually is in reality is like, the majority of LDS life. In fact down here in the richer Mormon areas like Highland or Alpine the younger Mormon adults are not that far off from this group in how they presented themselves (clothing, behavior, etc). I think Taylor is literally from Highland lol. You wouldn't catch them dead on BYU campus tho
@@plutigvid If you think that pretending that your life is perfect is singular to these idiots...or even only religious people....then you need to open your eyes and look at the world. It happens everywhere.
I'm so tired of people judging Latter Day Saints by the bad apples in Utah. There are good LDS people who follow the standards of their church- but they aren't on TikTok and aren't peddling cheating and swinging. Every time you turn around, any given group of people - religious or otherwise, are judged by the questionable or abominable actions of a few. When you get out of Utah, into the rest of the world, that is NOT the majority of Mormon life. I'm a convert of 50 years, have traveled to and lived in many states and out of the country. NEVER have the LDS communities been anything like this! It must be a Utah thing. And, since Utah is an incubator for MLM businesses ( partially rooted in the concept of being responsible for the welfare of your family), I can see how some can be sucked into it... I just fail to see the lack of sense exhibited when they jump off the figurative cliff.
For the record, this doesn't just happen in LDS areas. I live in a majority Baptist area... same type of thing but not necessarily with MLM being part of it.
In my opinion, it boils down to commitment. Commitment to God, your spouse, your religion, marriage, family, honesty, ethics....beliefs.
Whatever you believe in and hold dear....if you can be swayed to engage in behavior that is contrary to that belief, then you aren't committed to it.
This isn't a religious thing- it's a people thing. And if you think these people are the only ones pretending that there life is perfect then I know a desert property in the bayou that you might be interested in.
@@plutigvid LDS encourages this. It's considered the only job that's acceptable for a woman (because it's just filming silly tiktoks so of course it's not work) because it brings others to the religion. Nara Smith and Ruby Franke are the first two that come to mind.
Whenever I feel sad about being single, stories like this make me so damn thankful I don’t have to deal with any of this mess in my life
Born and raised Mormon, and there is NO Mormon community where it is okay to drink. Lol
That's the part y'all take issue with??? 😂 So the fucking eachother, that's fine, but not if you're under the influence! Good LORD!
I found your channel during the Johnny Depp trial, but now I’m literally binging all of your content. I know I’m late, but I’m so happy I found your videos. We’re all obsessed with true crime and you are hilarious and stunning, so thank you for all the videos! ♥️✌🏻✨
It always fascinates me as a British person watching US religious households and their ridiculous dramas. I don't know whether much of it is down to religious indoctrination wrecking their ability to think, or whether they're just immature, but it truly amazes me how poor their reasoning skills are.
weird stuff goes on in non religious households here in America as well but it’s usually just typical family drama that you’d see in any country. I was raised religious (I’m not anymore) but the shit that happens in the religious groups (I can only speak on this as an American) are insane. It’s usually because of a lot of shaming happens and the strict rules. They’re more concerned with how the community views them so they end up doing a lot of weird shit behind closed doors, that is until it all hits the fan and everyone finds out 😭
These hypocrites need to step back and figure out why they pretend to promote things they don't really believe in. Of course it's for money and attention, but it's hard to see how it could possibly be worth it. It's not just confusing to the viewers (who really cares) How is all this going to affect the kids in the coming years?
15:05 but...this woman really wrote "those she's drug into this mess" it should be DRAGGED into, not drug into.
i'm sobbing.
AYE YOO, UPDATE: She got arrested for domestic abuse against her bf/husband Dakota. Look it up. Theres cam footage too! Its WILDDD
Aye yo!!😮
Thought this was the same chic! Wow.
I just want to say this is the BEST VIDEO I'VE WATCHED non-stop drama and excitement omg Boze, you're the best this was amazing, more of this please. I also sent a link to my Mormon friend and hope she enjoys it as much as I did.
I was raised Mormon, and I haven't been in a long time. The assumption that religious people can't be creepy or cringey or immoral is absurd. I can totally believe that they were all "soft" swinging...I'm sure that playing with fire means regular swinging.
I feel like I'm watching a soap opera drama where it has murder mystery, divorce, affair, drama, suspense and rich shit.
It’s so strange watching this. I’m a practicing Mormon, so a lot of this is so crazy!
I’m LDS too lolol this whole thing is crazy
I feel like just looking at they way they are dressed, they can't be active members...
omfg, UP for boze to watch the body cam of her arrest!!!
the ending of that video just freaking sent me lol
My father's mom was a Mormon and my father's dad was Jehovah's Witness.
My mother's parents were both stringent Southern Baptists.
They were cordial to one another in terms of in-laws but I know what they were thinking.
I GET SO EXITED WHEN YOU COVER ANYTHING
didn’t see this video coming but honestly sounds like fun 😀
I'm loving this active investigation. We need more of this!
i love watching you put it all together. You make my depressed self happy for a moment
Here 2 years later after starting their crazy messy ass hulu series 😂😂 It's so wild!
Jesus I’ve never heard of so many families breaking at ONCE
I wasn't raised Mormon but my mom is a narcissist. I'm 26yo and to this day she STILL gets wrapped up in high school level drama with the other moms at my sister's school. She will just call me up out of the blue to vent about it. It's never HER fault of course... I just can't fathom how people just willingly keep putting themselves through this. It seems so exhausting. 😓
Hey I want to thank you you don't even know you helping for my depression I lost my 6mos old baby but watching your videos help me thank you
hope ur able to get better soon
so sorry for your loss ❤️❤️ i hope you continue to thrive and wish nothing for the best for you
So so sorry 🤍
I just found your page an hour ago and I love it! Your laugh kills me! Thanks for the hot tea today. Stay golden!
If you're in a group practicing "soft swinging," or whatever the fk they're calling it, this is a fully expected outcome. Drama can't NOT follow.... 😑🤨🙄
They should just make up say they're all in a poly relationship, and then make boundaries that they're all comfortable with and then just go on with their lives.
Exactly
as a polyamorous person im just laughing at the fact that their communication SUCKED AHAHAAH
Omg, PLEASE keep us updated because I am fascinated by all this drama and pettiness ❤
Lol where were these Moms when I was LDS? Growing up Mormon the moms were casserole toting, conservative dressed soccer-moms with the karen-chop hairdos. The nastiest thing they did was make you feel bad for talking too loud during sacrament.
Drinking is not accepted anywhere in the religion. If its happening, its socially supported, not institutionally supported. Just wanna throw that out there. Some Mormons may drink, but if they told their bishop about it, they would lose their "temple recommend" which would prohibit them from participating in temple work.
As someone who is ex-mormon this is all insane!! Every single bit of this is "against the rules" the drinking, the swinging, the only fans. 😂😂😂 Messy Mormon Tok
As a Mormon this is absolutely insane.
Aren't you guys supposed to be religious or something?
I know right! As a current member I was questioning wether or not Boze got the right religion for these people. I am confused cause I’ve never met anyone of these groups or individuals in my area of utah (I guess I just chose the right people to interact with) and I saw so many comments confirming this is true??? Hello where have I been??Honestly they’re just wak lol. Maybe they were baptized into the church but they don’t live by our standards.
@@tenderleesay7072 I think this is so sad for the community that we share. The LDS community overall can be very toxic but we already have a bad enough reputation for miss information on our views of things such as polygamy. It’s crazy we DO NOT swing these are NOT our practices!!!
@@trulymegan3679 y’all are in a cult fam, of course it’s toxic. It’s better on the outside. -Sincerely escapee of the cult.
@@RageUnchained your experiences your experience and I’ll respect you for that but “Cult “is a very strong term with a much harsher background than I personally have ever experienced in the LDS church you shouldn’t go throwing that term around. As an almost recruit of an ACTUAL cult.
Why the hell did they even get married if they want to swing?! I'm sure she's going to be excommunicated at this point from the mormon church.
Because the men clearly manipulated them. I’ve had many men try to force me into polygamy when I just don’t want to. They will truly try to manipulate you into doing it just because they want to have sex with many people.
Nah I feel like weird sex shit within the Mormon community is common it’s just swept under the carpet
Nah the one speaking up will probably get excommunicated for speaking up.
People get married for different, private reasons. And that doesn’t necessarily mean that you’ll be monogamous.
@@大城泉-c7d yes but the problem we have with Mormons is that they act like they're better than everyone else when they're just as fucked as the rest of us.
WHERES THE CHILDREN?? like seriously... who's watching the kids during all of this..
As an ex-mo, I can say Mormon moms are terrifying. Especially influencer Mormon Moms. There’s a constant air of Too-Perfect-ness about them, it’s scary fr fr
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Seeing them dressed with V necks, showing stomach, etc, is strange because I remember that being frowned upon in the community.
When I comes to Polygamy, that has been refuted by mainstream Mormonism, and FLDS, or Fundamentalist Mormons, are the ones who still ever so somewhat accept polygamy.
This is a weird situation all around, especially looking at it from the Ex-Mormon side of this
I’ve always said the minute you bring another person into a committed relationship you’re asking for trouble and most end in divorce or breakups.
It’s just not worth it.
I remember hanging out with a group of christian girls because I wasn't a partier and already didn't like a lot of people in my school anyway (like honky tonk Missouri)
They were fine, I went to youth group and like church camp with them but always felt kinda left out since I moved there and they've been friends since they were little and the christian label was on me just because my family was tho I never identified as it
Eventually I just slowly left because I didn't realize how judgey they were and I was just bored being around them. I told someone who use to be in that group who also backed away that I only kept hanging out with them because they were there and I related more with her anyway a little bit and she said she stopped being around them because they were judge, but it was like subtle and I don think I was catching on
The only crazy thing I know is when one of the girls had a boyfriend, they broke up, and the dude went to one of the other girls and they got engaged after 11 months
Maybe the rest didn't care, but I thought it was weird
What does getting engaged after a year to another person have anything to do with your Christian statement? Sounds like a responsible amount of time to pass after dating someone.
@@c.l.1820 Getting engaged after 11 months is weird
Most of the time it’s Christians who would get engaged super early in the relationship
But it’s their life
I think you are my favorite person on this platform. Entertaining and insightful.
I feel she’s being honest for the most part, maybe a lil scorned… you know what they say… I think the group deserves all that’s coming to them, the harder you pretend the harder you’re exposal will be. No judgement on the swinging, don’t care for pretend religious better than attitudes.
I’m an ex Mormon, I’m HERE for this
Don’t get me wrong though, all these girls who are Mormon aren’t true Mormons lmfao, they sit there and act perfect when really they pick and choose and just do what makes them look good
Did you say these mom's are Mormon? They do not look like, talk like , dress like, act like ANY Mormons I have EVER known! (and I have known hundreds!)
Search up soaking and I’m sure your outlook on Mormons will change lmao mfs are freaky
ohhhh yes they do they look like 80 percent of lehi utah in their 20s
Oof what the heck is happening up there in Lehi??? LoL
Open reliationships not working out? People get jealous? Wooow who would have thought? Amazing insight
Oh Mormon drama. ::listens intensely::
I grew up w/2 Mormon besties. They attended BYU schools (Idaho and Utah). I got to hear all the "sinfully" shameless stories! One WTF story was about a group of girls who snuck alcohol into the dorms, got drunk and caught. They later had to confess in front of the congregation and had their ranks demoted. (What rank? I have no clue)
Omg Boze, I needed this round of 'Tea' blessings sis.
This gives me a flashback to my childhood. Both my parent really drilled "There are no such things as friends. They are either family or people you happen to know."
They also would say things like "Be careful about what you say and who you say it too. Bc those you called 'friends' can easily turn on you." As a kid I thought my parents were just very negative, but as an adult now, i kinda see their point.
wait wait wait... i feel so bad for these kids... imagine being them and growing up and say this shit all comes out later on like... yeah my mum was in a tiktok cult being passed around like theyre at a college party... what the fuck!?
ugh, I'm so glad I'm not LDS anymore. If this weren't public on Tiktok these people would be immediately excommunicated.
This group is a dumpsterfire.
There's so much to unpack here holy shit.
COULD WE GET AN UPDATE VIDEO ON THIS- Please like this is wild.
"In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes.” Andy warhol
little did he know tiktok will be created where famous moms be having couple swap drama