Donovan’s reaction to not making the 2014 World Cup roster! | CBS Sports Kickin' It | Episode 8
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- In Episode 8 the USMNT legend Landon Donovan joins his former USMNT teammates to discuss his honest thoughts to not being selected for 2014 World Cup and why he backed US rivals Mexico in the 2018 World Cup.
Raw. Authentic. Unfiltered. This is Kickin' It - a new weekly show hosted by Kate Abdo and former United States men's national team players Clint Dempsey, Maurice Edu, and Charlie Davies.
The show will see the quartet engage in original conversations and agenda-setting discussion with each other and a wide variety of guests across the soccer world.
00:00 - Intro
0:43 - Donovan’s reaction to on not being selected for 2014 World Cup
07:34 - What was Mo Edu’s reaction to not making the 2014 World Cup squad
14:54 - Landon Donovan says he "cared a lot more about the national team" than dual nationals
24:44 - Landon Donovan explains why he backed Mexico at 2018 World Cup
34:14 - Clint and Donovan discuss their rivalry
42:42 - Landon plays in the Mixer!
44:56 - Sneak peak at next week’s episode!
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This show is like therapy for ex players . I’ve even noticed Clint Dempsey grow and mature and not be an Oscar the grouch all the time
Oscar the Grouch...ha ha ha...that's funny.
From a loyal Mexico fan as a Mexican-American. We respected Donovan so much. Yeah we hated you on the field but at the same time we respected his game, his professionalism and his passion. “El Pinche Donovan.”
You're who he is talking about with dual loyalties. Why do you support Mexico but don't live there?
@@americanpig-dog7051 This isn’t the sport for you if you think that way.
In a sport that is this globalized supporting more than one national team is pretty commonly accepted. Mexico fans are also huge Brazil fans and tend to root for them or other “American” countries like Colombia when their teams gets knocked out of international competition.
So them cheering for the US should be no surprise, especially bc a lot of them are literally dual nationals, or have family that are full on American citizens.
In fact USMNT fans are some of the biggest two team fans in the world bc a lot of Americans are descendants of European immigrants. US fans love to cheer for Germany, Ireland, England, or Italy bc that’s where their great great grandparents were from 😂.
@@luisrg6544 Americans have always rooted for America before their second team. This is not the case with immigration in the past few decades.
@@americanpig-dog7051 There’s inconsistency in your logic. You just agreed that Americans have second teams, so why aren’t non Americans allowed to root for the USMNT as a second team?
Are Americans the only human beings allowed to root for second national teams? It’s ironic because the USMNT could use all the help it can get in terms of attention and fans.
A lot of Americans don’t even care about the sport, and some actually shame people that follow it. It’s unwise to turn away the people that help give a little extra relevance to the national team. It seems like you are advocating for less support of your own national team and have a preference for lower attendance and reduced relevance on the international stage.
Fans from other countries like Brazil, Mexico, Japan, or Morocco for example in the last World Cup, love getting support from foreign fans who show appreciation and love for their football. They understand and love the sport, and embrace multiculturalism. People like you are proof that a lot of Americans still have no idea what this sport is all about.
@@luisrg6544 It irks me when someone leaves a country they don't even want to live in and show more loyalty to that country than the one they actually want to live in, like the Turks living in Germany who make German home games against Turkey look like away games. Nobody's saying you can't root for any other team, but I grew up watching US-Mexico games with people who were born and raised here and hated the US and were loyal to Mexico. Then again, my people can create societies that people actually want to live in, so maybe that's why I don't get it.
Timmy Chandler watching this episode like 👀
😂 right next to Fabian Johnson
Green, Johannsson, and Diskerud 👀
Kate Abdo is an incredible interviewer. Just world class
Agree... and Charlie Davies is not. He only talks about things where he is in the story. Which was only for like 2yrs so his entire contribution is limited to 2007-2009
@@justin57153 you're both right.
I love her my fav on the show
Kate just asks a question to continue the conversation and let’s the people being interviewed transition to different topics.
Not really, she couldn't follow Donovan's reasoning and tried to paint it as anti-immigrant or xenophobic or something. He was questioning their dedication to the national team, not whether they were American.
Everyone else is wearing designer shoes and Dempsey is there with socks and Crocs. Legend.
I'm' Mexican American born here and I'm proud to have been born here I lived in Mexico and went to school there. I know what Donovan means to have a love for the US to play for the US. My connection is much greater the US because my life is here , I love my heritage but there is something to be said about being born and raised in the land you were born in.
He may not articulate himself in the best way but that doesn’t mean his point in principle isn’t accurate. There was definitely a “mercenary” feel during the Jurgen era where you just knew some of the players coming were purely taking advantage of a career opportunity and wouldn’t have cared whose colors they were doing it in. Especially over more deserving players. Nobody is saying dual nationals or mixed cultures are bad. It’s just being obtuse to try to make it one or the other. You absolutely understand what he’s saying if you watched the team for any amount of time in that era.
and the fact is Landon basically hinted that those players made it known during camp how they felt about the opportunity. If they had performed then it wouldn't have mattered, but they evidently didn't which leads to Donovan feeling he was "right" to question their effort which is what he was doing.
Which players do you think fit the description?
Maurice Edu was class. He absolutely should have gone to the 2014 WC.
With 1 goal? Sure...
Not over Jones at the time. It was a toss up with him and Beckerman. Beckerman had some solid games leading up the WC
@@csrac23100% Jermaine Jones was absolutely crucial to that 2014 squad
@@nostradamususone goal? Not all players should be judged on goals.
Jones and Beckerman deserved to go and start as they did. Klinsmann started them together in every group game. I think having Edu in that midfield rotation would have definitely helped. @@csrac23
I don’t know how many people watching this aren’t either American or live in America, but Donovan not going in 2014 would be like Ronaldo not going with Portugal to Qatar. Like yeah he’s not where he used to be but he’s a leader, the most experienced, has played in multiple world cups and can help the team. But instead they brought wondolowski and green
Also, when Kate asked how you can tell if people care and if he understands about split heritage, he literally said there are guys going to the World Cup who don’t care about us soccer. Julian green ended up awful, Johansson never played after 2015 for the us and wondolowski just wasn’t better than Landon at the time. They didn’t want to name names but Geezus it’s so obvious
@@ryanmeek6284 Landon would've buried that chance that Wondo had
@@ryanmeek6284 timmy chandler was the guy who was notorious for not caring one bit. they actually let slip and name dropped him lol
Who the heck is Wondolowski and Green? Are you some chinese AI? I maybe a stupid and dumb american but I am not falling for your trap there.
World class blunder
Him leading in international assists is actually crazy tbf
Crazy he has both records especially since he wasn't a true 9. Wasn't even a true 10 or winger lol
yeah dude I physically couldn't control my jaw drop lol. He is one of the biggest what if players ever imo
Landon makes a great point about some of the US team players. Look at Julian green, Aaron Johansson, mix. Where are those guys now and why haven’t they been on the US roster since 2014?
Julian Green actually made a camp with USMNT under Gregg he just didn’t play and he still wants to play for the national team but just isn’t good enough anymore.
Because they weren't good enough. Same goes for Mix Diskerud.
I think to landons point. How many of those players spoke out when the US didn't make the world cup? I remember Jermaine Jones criticizing the group and showing he cares. You should want players who will care after they retire and will support the team in future world cups.
Out of those dual nationals from that crop, only Jermaine did. Fabian Johnson, Chandler, Johansson, Julian Green we never really heard from again quickly afterwards
@@isaiahpavia-cruz678yea. Crazy how those became vanished
@isaiahpavia-cruz678 Fabian was asking Berhalter to play for the USMNT as late in 2019, a year before he retired. He definitely cared.
@@isaiahpavia-cruz678 what about Geoff Cameron?
@@edgaryzen4925 Geoff was bad!!! He got us an own goal playing against Ghana in 2014!!!! I think that he was great for 2010 but 2014…
One of the best interviews. Never thought Donovan would do an Interview like this.
Quickly becoming my favorite sports show ever.
Please have Jermaine Jones if you can, it would be a very interesting interview.
Totally get what Landon was saying. Are you available for the friendlies..the gold cup or are you just showing up during the World Cup cycle so you can say you went. It’s a fighting spirit the USA team has that comes from really wanting to play for the badge. Win or lose I want that spirit throughout the team.
More of these please- great work
I love this!! Loved the USMNT when these guys were playing. This is such an insightful show.
Wow, just wow…this show is unparalleled in Sport in terms of rawness
Awesome interview. Loved the casual back and forth.
You can absolutely tell when players care less. It's even obvious to fans.
Like what? I can’t pinpoint anything
regarding the “my other team is mexico” thing, i’ve always believed that you should root for your rivals. when you aren’t playing them. or root for the team who knocks you out in a tournament. cuz you want to be going against the best. so if i’m messi, and barcelona and real madrid are on opposite sides of the champions league bracket, i root for real madrid the whole tournament so that we can meet our rivals in the finals, and beat them. if i’m costa rica in the 2014 world cup, after losing to the Netherlands in the quarterfinals, i root for them in their next games. because if i’m going to be beaten, i want it to be by the ones who win it all.
main goal is winning in professional sports doesn't matter who its against just matters that you win rooting for a rival team discredits you rooting for you're main team as a life long barca fan I always love seeing Madrid lose.
Landon is amazing, I so resonated with what he said about borders etc. beautiful thought
This is on another level.
Best of the best football show.
Clint's a funny dude. Good interview guys.
Great interview. Pls make more 🔥
I was waiting for this!!!! ❤❤❤
I was so disappointed Landon wasn't on the 2014. The legend deserved a roster spot on bench at minimum.
Infuriating to hear everyone besides Clint be obtuse on purpose when Landon explained how someone that cares deeply about representing their national team should perhaps get precedence over someone else who doesn't. It did come true by the way. He can't name names obviously, but you can go back and check the rosters.
Name names
he sounded ignorant
@terrancehall9762 I kinda understand what you mean, in that, how can Landon know that someone like Julian Green or Aaron Johansson were going to flop massively before they got a chance to prove themselves on a big stage? Just keep in mind that he never said he should be the one to make those decisions, he merely pointed out that some other players that have ties or opportunities with other national teams may not care as much as someone that leads his country with over 50 goals, and the most assists in international football history.
I didn't get the impression that he was saying he knew he was right the whole time. To me, it sounded like his hunch ended up coming true later, which led to him feeling vindicated for his initial response. He also specifically pointed out how Jermaine Jones was not an example of what he was trying to say and that there are multiple exceptions. People are just looking to be offended and make a mountain out of a molehill.
This isn't a sports TV analyst that never played a match or represented his country, it's Landon Donovan. I'd most certainly consider him an expert in all things USMNT.
@@HAVOK586 tbh he needs to concentrate on himself.
@@nimbra2wondolowski for one
I find it so funny that Landon is so ahead of the rest of them yet to me it feels like (especially Kate by assuming he „just likes to be different“. I found that a bit childish and bit of a disgrace towards this legend.) they are unwilling to grasp what he‘s trying to state in terms of no borders and that we are all just human beings.
If you take turkish soccer (I‘m turkish) as an example. I will support teams like Israel or Azerbaijan or any other closer country if we‘re not making it bc I consider them close to myself and it sheds a good light on that area in terms of soccer and attention for it’s sports.
You as well can‘t deny that Mexico is also a big part of the US and it‘s culture/economy etc. So there clearly is a link that‘s not only based on rivalery.
And also on club level. I support Besiktas Istanbul but will be super happy whenever a turkish team is successfull in the Champions League. And ironically, I will support Galatasaray at the Champions League but I‘m going to hate them so hard and want them to be crushed in the league.
So it is, like he said, an ambivalence between realism and idealism.
We love our nationalteam, I support other nations that I consider close to myself and my identity. Tho at the same time I believe that we deep down are basically all the same human beings, which isn‘t that hard to understand.
In the end it is all about swinging between those feelings and trying to find a place comfortable in that limbo.
the no borders is kinda dumb though. because its the different cultures that allow us to appreciate our differences.
Timmy Chandler is the only one that clearly didn't really care about playing for the US. Mix tried playing in MLS but just wasn't that good. Johannsson was always injured. Green just found his level in 2 Bundesliga.
Hmmm could Fabian Johnson be one of the players he's talking about?
Fabian Johnson was a wonderful player for us though, he repped the crest wonderfully. If he is talking about Fabian I really think its a bit unwarranted. If you want to say Chandler or Johannsson then fine but it seemed like Fabian cared when he did play. @@jdubb45
@@jdubb45chandler definitely.
@@jdubb45definitely not
Best episode of Kickin' It so far! Keep it going, please! Clint "Hey Bro...I wanna go to Mcdonalds...wuzz up?" I'm dying 🤣
I love this show!!! A+
I remember when donovan and the us were dominating messi and argentina in a game but nobody ever talked about it... Donovan was dribbling through argentina like if it was haiti
For context @14:00, Landon is calling out certain players that Jurgen selected who were essentially European and had hardly any connection to the United States. This was a big criticism during the time as actual Americans were being unfavored. A risk that certainly didn't pay off. (John Brooks, Aron Jóhannsson, Mix Diskerud, Jermaine Jones, Julian Green, Fabian Johnson)
and he was spot on...
Jermaine Jones started under Bob Bradley in 2011. He was a key addition to the team.
Johnson and Brooks were also good enough to be part of the team. Johannson and Diskerud however...
Brooks still wants to play for us
At 18:06 Donovan states that Jones was not one of the guys he was referring to 🤔
He quickly said Jermaine wasnt like that- also, he played in the MLS- which obviously goes a long way with Landon
I agree with Landon. I really hope that some of our dual-nats now are embracing this American opportunity.
If only Landon had pushed himself in the face of discomfort and really staked his claim as best in the US and as a world elite.
I think he made his claim for best US player but you make a good case about being world elite.
I think Donovan was a world class player. As a Galaxy fan it was amazing to have him but it would have also been amazing to see him show his extreme talent more on the world stage.
@@socalmotorxLandon Donovan being world class is a joke. He played like a total of 30 games at the top level. He's at best a good professional player. Clint Dempsey has more experience. He has a stronger claim than Donovan of being the better player. Only his reputation takes him out of the conversation to American's
@@user-vc1nt1kp2n more experience and playing more in Europe doesn’t equal more talented.
I’m not hating on Clint. He was a great driven player. Go watch the FA cup game between Everton and Fulham with them on either side. Tell me which player was more influential on their team.
@@socalmotorx th-cam.com/video/y1sZGrAYQMA/w-d-xo.html
Donovan really brought it in that game. For a striker to be able to play a left-footed ball like that is crazy.
As supporters, we saw the same thing. There were players that Jurgen brought in that didn't have the same heart as players who were raised in the US.
Everyone so adverse to Landon taking issue with mercenary dual nationals who didn't care for the team - then can't believe he would show love to another country in a world cup.
Donovan is still captain America. I love the fact Pulisic is following on his foot steps. Getting a taste of Mexican vs USA rivalry
Clint is such a Texas boy! You love to see it.
14:18 Julian Green!😂
Julian Green has actually spoken about being disappointed on not being called up anymore and hopes for a return to the NT. They were all talking about Timmy Chandler specifically
Biopic actor for Landon is Alden Ehrenreich
34:42: "Ayyyyee WTF!!! Que haces" 😂
Would have been interesting to hear thoughts on the 06 World Cup, he was at his worst then and it showed on the field
2002 and 2010 is where he really shined. As of today, Landon Donovan holds 2 world cup records. 1) The only CONCACAF player to win 'the best young player' award AND the most goals scored at the world cup by a CONCACAF player. Impressive resume.
15:06 LD was born in Ontario the town, not the province.
Landon Donovan is by far my fav athlete ever. Loved this interview
Clint Dempsey asking if Landon banks with Wells Fargo 😂😂😂😭 33:38
Different cycle but I still remember David Regis.
Donovan is the greatest U.S. player of all time. Only respect!
Clint is rocking some nice looking dress Crocs
Hearing them talk about their Pride playing for the USA compared to the Women's team like Rapinoe and Morgan and their disrespect.....that's why they faced that appropriate backlash....Thank you men's team legends for explaining what it's ALL about!
Dang....that car accident Charlie.....I knew Ashley Roberta the girl that passed away in the car =( sad day for sure, but good to see you thriving!
Landon for President!
After this, we gotta see Jermaine Jones on here.
What Landon and the group were debating about, the same type of conversation is happening with the Philippine Women’s team. I feel the Fil-Ams do feel proud of their Filipino heritage to represent, but there are sectors back home that question if they’re really Filipino enough
sooo many americans do this because making the uswnt is super competitive (ali riley plays for NZ, kyra carusa plays for ireland, etc.) they're only eligible through their parents and have spent like 0 time in those countries
Phillippines is on a different level of having foreign players in their squad than the US mens team. It is not even close. Canada mens national team is a better argument.
I gdt Landons point and think they kind of twisted it a bit on him. He isn't saying oh they weren't born here so they don't care. He is just saying that those specific guys didn't have an attachment to that team or maybe didn't identify directly with that team or the US. He isn't generalizing humans as a whole who migrate to the US or their first nation isn't the US. Just referring to those specific guys not being as attached or caring about that team in the same way.
Dempsey hit the post against T&T. That 58th goal would have been huge.
Never took Clint as a crocs guy 😂
Timmy chandler, Julian green, Aaron johhanson, Terrence Boyd.
TBF I think Aaron Jo was affected more with injuries than anything else. Never got to truly see him develop
@@clintdempseyisgoat8829 That’s true. If only he balled about in bundesliga.
@@clintdempseyisgoat8829 I still think Johannsson was even injured during that world cup. He didn't play for like the last month at AZ going into the World Cup. Then had surgery right after. Didn't seem fit.
Next guest, Michael Bradley please....
Kate is extraordinary
I believe Fabian Johnson and Julian Green cared.
Comparing club teams and National teams is ridiculous. I agree with Landon. I always root for all the concacaf teams when it's against other regions. I love to see the success. It benefits the region. The whole Messi holding a Real kit is such a weak comparison and have nothing to do with eachother.
When USA failed to qualify for the world cup for 40 years straight no concacaf country cheered for USA failing and wanting them to succeed for the betterment.
landon is the pele of usmnt
I wonder who the players were that Landon told Jurgen about lol
Julian green?
I would disagree regarding choosing club though. There are some people, they don't "choose" their club. They grew up supporters of a club and that's it.
I was just thinking during the legit fifa windows in the upcoming 2 yrs would it be smart for usmnt to travel and play the first team players with a few reserve players to replace players that are playing for their countries during the qualifying window, to play like man city,Barcelona,Real Madrid,chelsea,Newcastle , top teams in brazil, Argentina,England ,Spain during those windows to play actual good competition rather than playing lower level countries that can’t help the progess of our team.Tbis can also test our tactics and how we can adjust aganist these teams that play similar to the national teams of their respective countries ?
I’m disappointed that st kitts and nevis caught a stray
Landon’s opinion on attitudes and agendas of certain specific dual nats may get criticism, but he is consistent. He doesn’t want a player to come in and only be about themself. Like when David Beckham joined the Galaxy, he went off on loan to AC Milan just months after arriving. LD called him out publicly for only being about himself and not being loyal to the Galaxy. That said, the USMNT really really needed LD in 2014.
I know exactly what Landon was trying to say but unfortunately with the media and cancel culture going around he was probably cautious about saying it. We all know it’s true.
14:14 who were those guys??
I can’t stand that _"We are so exceptional, no one else can feel to be an American like we do!"_ -attitude … 14:48
Jermaine Jones played all games for the *German National Team* at youth level. He later changed to the USMNT. Following Donovan’s mantra he isn’t "American enough" to play for the USofA, oh wait, because he "delivered" it was acceptable. Donovan is confusing Jermaine's aggressiveness with effort. Jermaine was known all over the World for that attitude at club level, so fully matching the American poster child of a warrior. So no big deal that Jermaine wasn’t constantly waving the US flag. Got it.
To the contrary Julian Green (at that time was barely 19yrs of age and playing for Bayern München), a guy with potential, who had to prove himself and Jürgen Klinsmann that a mix of "native" (and therefore being blessed to be more patriotic) Americans and Dual-Nationals would help the team until the MLS will provide several layers of homegrown talent (hasn’t Julian shot a goal in the 107th minute for the USMNT in his first game at the World Cup?). And yes, you’ll find a bunch of 100% patriotic American players who will fail to have multiple calls in the future, simply for the reason that someone else will be better, bc of injuries, etc pp…
I've seen the two parts of this interview & you can kind of tell why LD was left out of the team in 2014. He never was the guy to reach to other players in camp. I'm actually stunt that he never made a relationship with Clint Dempsey. They were arguably the two best players for that era!
I enjoyed LD in the 2002 WC, but with time Clint represented the real US essence of the team. With LD it always felt like he left so much to desire with his career & I feel like he does feel the same way.
Nonetheless, he did deserve a spot in 2014 regardless if he was fit or not.
Donovan had consistent nearly perfect service on set pieces. That's why he has the record for assists. Nobody talks about that for some reason.
also its not talked about but he had arguably world class vision and soccer IQ. his long passing was off the charts. he wasn't the best dribbler, but that's ok. but his vision and soccer iq....check out his assist highlight reel. not just his set piece delivery, but passes IN a game. early on he had a no-look one touch assist with the outside of his foot in the assist video. Against china I believe. It was mind blowing.
I like Edu , but you can't bring up hypothetical.. the fact is many pick which country with the help of their agent, which is ok but they don't have the same love for the US.
Charlie would of been amazing
Jermaine jones scored a banger against someone that World Cup
Portugal
I keep hearing a lot of former players opinions about Bruce Arena and many of them have negative experiences with him. I wasn’t watching the team around that time I was young. Can people who watched during that era explain a fans perspective of Bruce Arena and how he was as a coach.
Bruce was a dictator 😅
@@juan1189 It definitely seems that way. But I guess his accomplishments speak for themselves too at the same time.
@@arkansasceltic they do but still feel like Landon was holding back. Dempsey for me and Claudio Reyna before were the usmnt key players. Good thing this generation seems willing to surpass all previous teams. Only time will tell of course
it's a crime that donovan was not selected in 2014.
As a Mexican, I hated Donovan the player but I respected him for sure
What a great sports show. So much better than a bunch of pundits yelling at each other.
Kate we have the same 🧢 can you sign mine for me please???❤❤❤
Also I have a shirt for Charlie!
No one called out Clint for rocking the black crocs, notably crocs with socks 🧦
the fact that he was cheering for Mexico shows that he deserves to not make the team
Landon is a PL icon. Deadly 4 everton and always a clinical dangerous finisher
He done well at Everton but he played 17 games scoring twice. Hardly a Premier league icon. Might be loved by Everton fans that doesn't make you a PL icon
@@TORRES999ify If only Donovan would have stayed in Europe instead of coming to MLS. He could have accomplished a lot more.
@nerychristian maybe so. I remember watching him at Everton and he done well just wasn't for long enough. Seemed like he was a home boy ,just wanted to be at home and not in Europe fighting for a place .
Landon definitely the smartest in the room
If he was so 'smart' he wouldn't be rocking that hairdo.
@@sikakuomaybe he just doesn’t value superficial appearances as much as you
I also route for CONCACAF if I have no other dogs in the fight.
Landon Donovan. Mr. International. Half-American, half-Camadian 😅. Maybe Mr. North America
Kate is beautiful
Isnt dempsey half Mexican?
Kate nailed it right on that archaic American discourse of 'not feeling/being American enough'.
Americans always are: 'half Italian 3/4's German, 1/64 African, etc...' but when someone else, outside of the country, truly is a double or triple national, then they are not 'American enough'.
I have a total respect and admiration for Landon Donovan, and recognize the huge impact he's had on football's development in the US, but he won't sit at the same table as Clint, Maurice, Bocanegra, Tim Ream.
Yes, Klinsman favoured 'German-Americans', but Landon's comments are simply out of touch.
But he also seems to be right about how much certain players actually cared in the end. His logic to get to his conclusion may be rooted in bigotry but his conclusion was still correct.
@@Rezzzzz1234 absolutely! at the end of the day, he was proved right.
except it wasn't about being "American" enough. I think this is one thing that Alexi explained better. "When you put on that jersey, when you put on that crest, it MEANS something to you. When you hold your hand over your heart when that national anthem plays, it MEANS something to you. I agree that we are a country of many origins and immigrants, that actually is fine, because many of them would absolutely represent this nation with all of their heart.
I think LD just didn’t express it well on the spot, but he really meant that having passion for the crest (club or national), is going to take the team further than someone there for a paycheck. Nothing to do with “American-ness”
It’s crazy to act like what Landon said about some of those folks was at all controversial. It’s not about being a dual national or an immigrant or anything. It’s about some folks being committed to the national team and caring and others just doing it wholly for themselves. It’s not that complicated. When folks say “how can you tell???” they’re being disingenuous. It was obvious for some
Calls out players for not being loyal to the team in 2014 then roots for Mexico in 2018? 🤔
Well he also admitted that it was partly money that made him do that. His “worldly” views are a little odd.
Did you watch the interview?
1. USA didn't qualify in 2018
2. In the absence of the USA, he supports all CONCACAF teams which includes Mexico.
3. He grew up with Mexicans
4. He was paid well to support Mexico.
5. He admits that holding up the scarf was probably a mistake.
@@RexBanner_ Sell out for sure. I did lose respect for Donovan supporting Mexico for the 2018 world cup.
Landon‘s logical reasoning skills leave a lot to be desired - good on the crew for calling him out on it
You can tell he’s smart but his opinions can be a bit hypocritical. He hasn’t fully thought through them
@@Rezzzzz1234 Idk I disagree, he comes across as thoughtful because of the way he talks but if he was smart he'd be able to actually make counterpoints besides "this is just a feeling"
Not really he was pretty clear on why he feels that way its the crew who didn’t like the answer they received, especially the host pushing back as if shes trying to get some controversial viral reaction
If Donovan had any balls he would've named names.
Not naming names is a better smart tactic because it protects him from unwanted negative attention. You give what you receive. Plus I know he wishes them good retirements with their careers and their personal and private lives. Some things are better not to be said publicly.
Idk does it matter if they just wanted to play they wanted to win is all that matters
Kate the goat
This sounds like a hater but what does Charlie bring to this? He was mid at best for the USMNT and the least dynamic commentator I’ve ever heard (I’m a Revs fan).
Can we get Jermaine Jones and Eddie Johnson on? Those two would have tons of hot takes 😅
Charlie, before his accident was more than mid. Was he "great" ? No, but he was absolutely dynamic up forward. Just like Lletget or Onyewu. Sometimes you have one major injury or in Charlie's case, an accident, and you're just never the same player afterwards.
Here's an idea, get Mexican players on here with US players and reminisce about old times. We're brothers, we fight, competitive but at the end we're human.
It is not as simple as you think it is. Mexicans still booed when the US national anthem is being played on US soil.
I totally agree with Landon on him caring more about the national team than others. BUT his take on the players who weren't born in or grow up in the states bores me. At the end of the day, like Kate says, everyone is there for themselves. Sure there are players who bleed red, white and blue but both can be true at the same time. I think LD thought that statement was edgy and individualistic but now it feels like he's just being stubborn about admitting he was wrong. No harm in admitting to a mistake! Overall a great two-part interview. Cheers to Kate and the boys!
He is my fav player ever but I think he has some terrible takes and he is kinda bad at explaining himself.
I don’t think dual nationals are bad. As he mentions Jones bleeds red white and blue while also staying true to his country of birth. I see the same from Sergino Dest and Musah and others.
The difference is Gregg has built that culture where Klinsmann didn’t. Klinsmann brought in mercenaries who didn’t fit the culture. It’s no mistake that Jones who took to the culture the most was actually brought in by Bob Bradley.
Berhalter now has put team culture first above individual players. It’s why we can have so many dual nats but keep a tight cohesive connection to the team.
@@socalmotorx really well said!